#hephaestus and aglaia

[sarafangirlart]

Hephaestus really is the king of “me and the baddie I pulled by being autistic”

Yup.

Then Ares would be “Me and the baddie I pulled by having a different kind of autism”

[bride-of-the-monster]

I let it fall, my heart, and as it fell, you rose to claim it -Hephaestus x Aglaia Faceclaims: Domhnall Gleeson- Hephaestus Freya Mavor- Aglaia (Not my gifs, just the edit)

[hephaglaeasworld]

Hi, i wanted to ask something if you don't mind. What are your thoughts on a brotherly bond between Hephaestus and Ares? I love Hephaestus but sometimes i hate how so many media portrays Ares in such a bad light despite being one of the few male gods that never sa'd someone or being said to have a big love for his family and siblings. Idk its just, the idea of a reconciliation between Hephaestus and Ares and the formation of a strong brotherly bond its something i definitevely wanna see someday, i'm just so sad both of them are usually bad portrayed or sidelined...

Ares to me is the protective older brother kind of guy, he does care for hephaestus in his own way, hephaestus forgave ares for his actions for sleeping with his wife aphrodite but I can see him and ares caring for one another as ares is aphrodite lover and hephaestus has aglaea with him. I do think hephaestus doesnt mind his brother being with aphrodite since he didnt want the marriage. Ares even killed a guy for SA his daughter, but the catching your wife having an affair with your brother is iconic so maybe that's another reason why they made him the bad guy

[rightwheretheyleftme]

Is there anything in the classical texts that states Hephaestus and Aphrodite got divorced after her affair with Ares was discovered, or is that a presumption people have made to reconcile how Hephaestus is married to Aglaia in The Iliad but later married to Aphrodite in The Odyssey?

Hi! There is no myth or ancient greek text stating that Aphrodite and Hephaestus got a divorce, but many believe that the Iliad is implying it. At the start of the book we are told the story about Aphrodite and Hephaestus’ marriage and her infidelity, but towards the end Hephaestus is married to Aglaia and Aphrodite freely consorts with Ares.

In the Iliad, Hephaestus wants Zeus to give him back the betrothal gifts that he gave him. Here’s a quote explaining betrothal gifts in Mycenaen Greece: “The son-in-law and father-in-law became allies (ἔται, etai, "clansmen") through the exchange of gifts in preparation for the transfer of the bride. Gifts (δῶρα dora) signified the alliance between the two households. The exchange also showed that the girl's family was not simply selling her or rejecting her; the gifts formalized the legitimacy of a marriage.”

So by asking Zeus to give him the betrothal gifts back, Hephaestus is delegitimizing the marriage.

Plus, polygamy wasn’t common in ancient greece, so if Hephaestus and Aglaia are married then that implies that he must have terminated his previous union.

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[just-1-scorpio]

I couldn't sleep. So now. I post these. A few memes about bad retellings, and reacuring bad takes.

Also here is a few veriants of the Clown makeup meme.

[dream--interrupted]

Finished Persephone's details

I planned on posting once per month at the very least but failed...

[rynquestionmark]

Animal crossing style Heph and Aglaia

[littletrixxxter]

Little news

Yes, I love to think they have healthy relationship (and old married couple energy)

[moonstruckdraws]

The three couples I got

Taller wives & shorter husbands my beloved

[godsofhumanity]

Dionysus: Hey, Aglaea, are you free on Friday? Like around eight? Aglaea: Yeah! Dionysus: And you, Hephaestus? Hephaestus: Umm... yes? Dionysus: Great! Because I'm not. You two go out without me. Enjoy your date! Hephaestus: Did you just-

[faer1etale]

(A little background information, after Hephaestus divorced Aphrodite he got with Aglaia/Charis, her handmaiden and one of the charites. Hermes got with Peitho, goddess of seduction and persuasion, also sometimes mentioned as one of the charities in the dionysiaca!)

[capricorn-0mnikorn]

As I understand it (and this, too, may simply have been inferred by writers, later), it wasn't Aphrodite who helped Hephaestus at his forge, but his second wife (whom he married after divorcing Aphrodite, because of the affair): Aglaia (link at theoi.com) -- One of the Graces, and the goddess of beauty.

Makes sense to me that the god of advanced tech and the goddess of beautiful design work together.

Debunking some misinformation about Hephaestus and Aphrodite’s Marriage

I’m so sick and tired so I’m making a thread, enjoy. I’ll break it down into several points.

1. Hephaestus demanded Aphrodite’s hand in marriage in exchange for Hera’s freedom and Aphrodite was forced into the marriage

You’d be surprised by how this isn’t even attested in ancient sources, rather it’s just a theory made by modern scholars bc of how spotty and limited our knowledge about this marriage is, let’s look at the actual sources:

Notice how Aphrodite isn’t even mentioned mentioned as the “prize”? Hephaestus does ask for a goddess in exchange for freeing Hera, but it’s not Aphrodite, it’s Athena. The usual course of events is this:

Hephaestus is angry at Hera for her mistreatment and sends a golden throne that traps her

The other gods try to persuade him to free her but he refuses

Dionysus convinces him by getting him drunk

Again the theory that Aphrodite was the prize for whoever gets Hephaestus to Olympus is just that, a theory. Not a really good one either bc wouldn’t Aphrodite be married to Dionysus instead? It’s a really shallow portrayal of all figures involved tbh, why would Ares only be interested in freeing his mother if it meant he gets to marry Aphrodite? Why would anyone on Olympus not be worried about their queen being chained up? Believe it or not but Hera isn’t as disliked as one would think lol

Now even if Aphrodite wasn’t a prize how did she end up marrying Hephaestus? And was she forced into doing it? No actually (Lucian’s Dialogue of the gods):

That’s not to say this wasn’t an arranged marriage (it most likely was) but arranged marriage and forced marriage are not the same thing. If you think this is a forced marriage then what about Cadmus and Harmonia? Heracles and Hebe? Both these marriages were arranged by Zeus but no one would claim they’re forced marriages.

2. Aphrodite hated Hephaestus

Now this is more open to interpretation, after all love is subjective, but to say they outright hated each other would be incorrect, there is this myth that Aphrodite cursed Lemnos to have the men abandon their wives and female family members, usually bc they neglected on worshipping her (tho a late Latin source says it’s revenge for exposing her affair).

Apollonius of Rhodes' Argonautica:

However this bit seems to be rather… genuine? Almost as if she might have truly felt bad for what she did and wanted to reconcile, sounds like someone with a deeply messy and complicated relationship with their partner, but not outright hate.

Also there is this moment in Lucian’s Dialogue of the Gods which is pretty funny:

3. Hephaestus only saw Aphrodite as property

Ok I don’t like using the “it was a different time” card but like… it really does apply here lol

Now we’ve already established that Aphrodite was never a prize for Hephaestus to begin with so what about the betrothal gifts he gave to Zeus? Obviously that means he was buying Aphrodite right?

Well, no actually this is a normal part of Ancient Greek marriage (obviously it varied between cities and time periods but it usually goes something like this), the father of the bride and the groom exchange gifts with each other to establish a bond between the two, the bride herself wasn’t the “gift” Zeus’s gift to Hephaestus was most likely his place on Olympus.

To say that Hephaestus bought Aphrodite would mean that Odysseus bought Penelope, or Hector bought Andromache, both are ludicrous claims.

4. Hephaestus is an incel and Ares is this big feminist icon

No, just… no.

Ares was never considered “the protector of women” in Ancient Greece that’s tumblr fanfiction and plenty of other ppl have made posts debunking this (including me) so I won’t repeat that here. Now about Hephaestus being an “incel” all the male Olympians have at least one story where they harm an innocent/defenseless woman, all of them, yes including Ares who persecuted Leto while she was heavily pregnant by Hera’s orders.

5. Aphrodite cheated to “regain her sexuality”

No Patrick, cheating on your disabled spouse with his brother in the bed and palace he made for you is not a girlboss move it’s being an asshole (all the gods are flawed, how thought provoking). Hell, even Zeus wouldn’t pull shit like this with Hera.

Aphrodite and Ares most likely did this hoping it would be the last place anyone would suspect an affair, since Aphrodite could’ve had sex with Ares in his own place or some meadow somewhere but that might cause ppl to be too suspicious.

6. Ares is a big dumb brute who can’t take a hint and only saw Aphrodite for her beauty

Believe it or not, just bc I criticize Aphrodite and Ares doesn’t mean I hate them lol. Now look, all the gods care deeply about looks but that’s not the only thing that Ares and Aphrodite love about each other. Here is Ares being a total simp and actually listening to her:

Iliad book 5

Thebaid book 3

7. Aphrodite felt neglected by Hephaestus bc he’s too busy at the forge

No lol, she straight up works with him at the forge, why wouldn’t she? If anything this claim makes Aphrodite even more shallow than she actually is.

8. Aphrodite and Ares didn’t care about being humiliated in the golden net and Ares straight up brags about cucking his brother

Yes I’ve heard such claims and no Ares and Aphrodite are actually capable of feeling shame lol, almost as if they were in the wrong. Also why would Ares actively antagonize the guy who makes all his stuff? Maybe that’s why Athena keeps beating his ass, bc Hephaestus purposely gives Ares shitty weapons and armor lol

Anyways umm… I think that’s it? Maybe I missed a few things bc I’m frustrated af rn

Just so y’all know, I’m not a scholar I’m just autistic and read a lot lol. I hope I didn’t miss something or get anything wrong.

Have a good day (or night).

[bride-of-the-monster]

Thalia: So Aglaia, there's a rumor going around that you're into Hephaestus. Aglaia: Rumor?! Thalia: Where are you going? Aglaia: I need to fix this. There shouldn't be any doubt.

[go-rocksquadsfan]

Ares and Aglaia at Aphrodite and Hephaestus' wedding :

[likethexan]

You Belong With Me a staple Hephaestus Aglaia song

[just-1-scorpio]

We need more Hephaestus x Aglaia, and Anubis x Anput content.