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Okay this is my first non reblog on this account but I wanna share my TFP oc Cricket, I couldn’t decide on if I wanted him as a seeker or a grounder so I made both :P
#tfp#transformers prime#transformers#oc#oc art#gosh I’m actually so bad at tagging when it comes to my art#my art#he is very much a decepticon#why would I make an autobot??? boriiiiiiiing#but for realzies I have redrawn him like eight times already just trying to get the perfect TFP look#probably gonna have to edit more later my art is never truly finished#btw first picture his alt mode is a 1950s Chevy Sedan Deluxe :)
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the way that ravage clearly loves and idolizes megatron genuinely makes me ill you have no idea. like this is someone who clearly still adores megatron despite being betrayed by him. and on the other side, the way megatron interacts with ravage in this entire scene is so,,, he's tired. he isn't at all what ravage idolizes and he knows that. he doesn't know what he is anymore but he's not the valiant savior ravage needs and wants him to be, and he Knows it.
ravage is clinging to a version of megatron that no longer exists (or maybe never did in the first place, and only existed in ravage's mind) and megatron no longer has anything to cling to so he rejects his past completely. these two make me ill.
#transformers#maccadam#maccadams#blight rambles#transformers idw#idw transformers#transformers meta#mtmte#more than meets the eye#lost light#tf idw1#idw1#idw tf#tf idw#megatron#idw megatron#tf megatron#mtmte megatron#ravage#tf ravage#idw ravage#mtmte ravage#im still not a fan of how megatron's character was handled in mtmte but i whenever i think of him and ravage they make me want to throw up#i would of very much preferred if this was framed just a BIT to the left. just a slight bit. and ravage brought up soundwave's efforts to#change the decepticons for the better and asked megatron to come back as an offer to “try again the right way”#which is what soundwave wants to do bc i would of LOVED to of seen how megatron would of reacted to that#idk. many thoughts#because ravage isnt stupid. he says outright that megatron was a tyrant. this isnt some blind belief that megatorn was a hero during the wa#it was a begging for megatron to return to what they were supposed to be at the start of the war.#idk im tired and words are weird. i just think about them a lot
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cliffjumper wip. still need to draw his bestie bee bcs i refuse to pit two queens against each other
rip my wife. killed bcs her smokey cat eyed slay was TOO loud 🤫 !!
#bulkier sharper bumblebee my Beloved#cliffjumper except emphasis on the cliff#i think he should have spiky climbing boots that can unsheath bigger spikes like that hot guy in spongebob#movie#LOL#so hes taller than bumblebee#but his thing is that he can clear cliffs with a single jump#and can also rocket jump too#a poor aerial decepticon flies by minding its business and all a sudden cliffjumper leaps str8 up into the air#and slices it in half with one kick#nobody says anything bcs they think bumblebee did that LMFAO#so bumblebee is just sipping hot coco when rubble after making some for him & rubble & rubble runs into the kitchen#bee: how was your day today my sweetiesparkling!!!😊😊!!#rubble: MOMMA URE A CRIMINALLLL🎶🎶 (criminulll)#bee: 😀🙂.... i beg your pardon -😃?#anyways i do not blame deathsaurus for craving that cookie so fking bad#and mirage for being in love with cliff after cliff was out for fking blood for his spark#in my eyes cliff is very much the soldier without the charisma bee has . theyre very foils but also best friends#he does not get sarcasm he does not have time for toning things down he loves shedding energon doesnt matter whose somebot will Die#& bee is like haaha cliff OF FUN of course haha🥰🥰😥🥰 <- is also covered in the energon of his enemies#basically cliff is like if bee didnt mask his autism all the time LMFAOO but they both envy each other secretly but still love eachother#if bee hears someone call cliff red bb he will lecture u until generstions end & if he hears u say it TO cliff u WILL die#if cliff hears u making fun off bee it doesnt matter if u were 8000ft away just casually mentioning ure not a fan of him.. cliff will Find u#deathsaurus: ive been dreaming abt k*lling u over & over & over again haha i know im so crazxyyy 🤪 lol😝!#cliff: thats fucking cringe + ure a loser + ure ugly + im Killing you + die#cliffjumper#tf#maccadam#transformers#transformers bumblebee
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The thing about Prowl is I don't really think canon was ever trying to frame him as a "necessary evil" or anything along the lines of "he's a shitty person but his work was necessary" like mmm.... That feels very much like something Prowl wants to believe about himself, not something that's actually factually true in reality.
I can't really make a good argument about it because I only remember like a handful of standout Prowl Moments in IDW1 but like... Prowl dropping a bomb on a neutral city and blaming it on the Decepticons is not "a necessary evil," that's a war crime. Prowl trying to destroy the space bridge to Caminus to keep Starscream from getting power over it, dooming the entire planet and its inhabitants to extinction by starvation, is not "a necessary evil," it's a fucking war crime. I feel like trying to frame such drastic measures as him "doing the dirty work of the Autobots" feels way too much like an excuse for actions that actually aren't justifiable. Especially since Prowl himself is far from being the 100% rational guy he thinks he is, considering how often he bases his decisions on things like his anti-Decepticon bias and his general refusal to follow any orders that contradict what he thinks is The Right Thing To Do (TM).
But also I think this is kind of the fault of the narrative of IDW1, since very few Autobots besides Prowl are given the chance to actually be morally gray even when the worldbuilding implicates them in some very morally gray things. Like, for example, JRO adding in the existence of MTOs which implies that the normally squeaky-clean leader Optimus was willing to approve the creation of new soldiers just to throw them into combat (and even the attempts to humanize the MTOs by giving them "an education" were eventually cut down to nothing but combat optimizations). And there's also the fact that Optimus knows about the Wreckers and has been known to call them on missions at least once (Stormbringer), meaning he's very much aware of the Wreckers and their tactics and is willing to call them in for fights when it's necessary.
I don't think you need to use Prowl as a crutch to make the Autobots morally gray. I think the Autobot leadership (or at least, Optimus, since few people besides him or Prowl seem to have major tactical command over the army as a whole) is plenty morally gray enough on its own, because the nature of war is inherently morally gray no matter how righteous your cause is. Reducing the lives of your own people into numbers on maps, harvesting resources, bringing MTOs to life just to die in a war they practically have no stake in, those things are enough.
And tbh it kind of bothers me when people try to saddle Prowl with the "dirty work of the Autobots", not just because it frames Prowl's blatantly evil actions as some sort of savior act taking the blame from the rest of the Autobots (which isn't even accurate, because the blame for war crimes falls on the entire army as an institution rather than one person), but because it downplays the moral grayness of the Autobots and pretends that no Autobot BESIDES Prowl ever participated in morally gray actions, which simply isn't true.
TLDR: Prowl isn't as much of a hero as he thinks he is because committing atrocities in the name of your cause doesn't change the fact that they're atrocities (and may not have even been justified). However, painting Prowl as the "token evil teammate" of sorts also places too much blame for the atrocities of war on him in particular, when in reality that's a burden shared by Optimus Prime and any other members of the Autobot military command structure.
#squiggposting#meta#prowl feels like one of those characters where people trust what he says at face value when like. he's very much not a reliable narrator#prowl SAYS that he does the dirty work no one else is willing to do but. is it really dirty work?#or is it just him authorizing dirty work and hiding it on his own and justifying it in the name of 'it's for the autobots'?#to draw on an old fandom of mine: 'what is the difference between you and the decepticons now?'#'isn't it obvious prime? i serve the autobots'#but also this is kind of the fault of JRO because like he's the main idw writer that explores what things were like during the war#while still being unwilling to part from the ideal of OP as the best prime and the all good and loving leader#barber gets into morally gray OP but it almost entirely concerns post war stuff so i wouldnt really count it
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how could you not do anything with the inherently parasitic nature of BOTH the blood of unicron and the blessing of primus.... literally its right there... 😩
#s.txt#can we talk about parasites can we talk about holy vessels im dying to talk about parasititc holy vessels#insane to think that after optimus got the matrix his very Being got store into the matrix to the point where#it got removed and he got Wiped. like hello why did we not even try to make that. more slay.#imagine dying and being reborn and everyone insists youre this other guy actually but you dont remember being that guy#that guy had centuries of war and pain you dont remember. that guy -- you at the end of the day --#have so much grief and sorrow and you just. dont remember. because your gods kindness extends to so many things but not his herald...#like yes we get bits n pieces during orion pax p1-3 but then they never bring up optimus's wild little jaunt as a decepticon again...
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an old, retired warrior
#transformers#art#optimus prime#au#optimus but what if he was old. angry at everyone and everything and lurked in the shadows#and if he also wore a cool (but dirty) cloth to hide his identity#what if ppl thought he died. so they mourn his passing in a ceremony. which he walked into to see whats up and then looks at his face in a#BIG HOLOGRAM and he's just standing there like “huh rip that guy i guess. never liked him” and left#not wanting to hear what megatron would say about him#(megs would be cybertron's leader !!!)#but megs would walk up and say to the public. genuinely teary eyed. how much his passing impacted him and how much he misses his old foe#and everyone would whisper old stories about optimus. remembering how nice he was and how skilled he was in the battlefield#why did he leave. you wonder. i dont know i made this up on the spot#maybe someone told him very mean (horrible) things about how his leadership style was going to doom cybertron or how he was surely going to#end up manipulating megatron and/or going to kill him and all the decepticons#maybe that someone was megatron and he said that stuff out of anger and didnt FULLY mean that#so he was like “ok then”. packed hastily and left without ppl knowing. so whoever entered his room after many days of “sulking” found it#all trashed and assumed the worst#and what does he do... save mechs from crimes like batman. but only when he's around and that's when he's low on energon and needs to get#more (not very frecuently). he's like a cryptid#other than that? build stuff idk. i like to imagine he's an engineer#he lives far. far away from society like the emo old man he is. perhaps near the sea of rust where he knows ppl wont get close#this wont make any sense i gave it like 5 minutes of thought. i just wanted to make an angry optimus design
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The funny thing about a TFP Humanformers AU is that if you’re changing the bots to humans, that leave the question of if the humans are bots or the humans are not, because if the Autobot Decepticon faction division still exists and the war is ongoing you’d kinda just… be left with random robot children that got involved somehow.
I mean, cybertronian Fowler makes sense given he’s a military man and primary human liaison for the Autobots already, flipping him around potentially means that he’s a military ranked bot hiding on Earth under the protection of the Autobots. The cybertronian version of MECH too makes sense as the ‘Decepticons’ of this switched universe, probably being Shockwave wannabes and dissecting human cadavers or vivisecting live subjects in the pursuit of alien interests; stereotypical alien behaviour according to Earth media. Heck, robo Fowler and mecha Silas can have PERSONAL beef or at least a history of knowing each other to the point that the Autobots are warned of a more insidious alien curiousity.
But the kids being on Earth is like… harder? Aside from explaining why they’re on a completely different planet (if it even IS based on Earth) you also gotta consider the gimmick that these kids get themselves into danger mostly thanks to the headstrong enthusiast and overeager Miko dragging the others along, and idk about you but if I saw a giant robot kid come across a fresh battlefield and say anything remotely positive about it, I’d probably just give up and turn the other direction.
#transformers#tfp#humanformers#maccadam#idk i’m trying to word what i’m thinking but i don’t think it’s working#maybe reworking how to consider the humanformersification might help#if the auto… ya know it’s a very bot centric name innit#if the autobots had at least a small military might behind them like what fowler brings#which depends on how much military influence or access he had as a human fowler#maybe then there’s enough defence for a bot fowler to hide behind even on a planet near completely decimated by war#and i guess the decepticons have the vehicons and mech has their soldiers so that’s an easy translation#again- hard to put the kids in without shoving in ‘convientiently destined refugees’ or ‘dropship crashes’ stuff idk#this is probably the thought process going for my humanformers#i know nuke’s been working on a species swap down to the fact miko raf and jack have cybertronian names#idk lmao
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unpopular opinion: I want tfe ratchet to be based off tfa ratchet not tfp
I like tfas design and personality better ok
Considering what I've seen, and how Ratchet was (I think?) in the little g1 comic blurb in the first or second episode, that his design is gonna be primarily based on his g1 one, perhaps somewhat off of his IDW design (me saying I'm pretty sure he's getting the gray chevron), and his personality is probably gonna be closer to his IDW one in my opinion considering the heavy influences in the show and how he's quite an important character in IDW05
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I feel like if he appears, it's gonna be a ~thing~ considering if he was easily accessible at the moment they would've brought him in the several times that someone has gotten hurt or to check them over as a checkup. He's probably not dead, and I feel like earthspark won't pass the opportunity up, so my main theory is that he's defected thanks to some of the pressures we see in the series with GHOST, Megatron working with the autobots, and the frankly awful treatment of a lot of the decepticons post war.
#maccadam#transformers#I'm absolutely thinking a lot so much about him being one of the few who still have theur autobot badge#like#i feel like we're gonna see more autobot rogues on the run#tfe ratchet#I'm yET AGAIN BRINGING UP THE NETFLIX TRILOGY BUT. but. in that he more or less said ''fuck that'' and set up a neutral clinic#and i can see earthspark ratchet doing something similar: prioritizing his oath over his faction#but it'd also be fascinating to see him full on join the decepticons post war badge in all because the context would be very different#earthspark ratchet#transformers earthspark#predictions
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an au where megatron and optimus come to an agreement and restore cybertron and get together, but then starscream comes back in the picture and they both fall in love with him, and he gets in their relationship and they spoil him and treat him like a queen is kinda what i need right now. the two brave, strong and courageous leaders of new cybertron and their pretty war criminal husband. they are all in love and happy.
#i mean in this au his life kinda is crazy for a while because he literally ran away from the decepticons and came back to restored#cybertron and his two enemies - one of which he loved very much married - but then they all get together#need starscream to be spoiled and get it every night if you know what i mean - can barely walk some mornings but okay#megastar#megaop#starop
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what’s wrong with tarn!
well aside from being a terrible terrible terrible person. nothing. it's just funny bc tarn Wears A Mask like scourge did in the movie and is the only character I can think of whose thing is Wearing A Mask. but they didn't use him for the movie they used scourge 😔
tf media is very interesting bc there are sooooo many versions and iterations of characters that can often be wildly different from each other, so the question of 'who do you pick' when you need a character to fill a certain role in your new story inevitably has a lot of options to choose from. scourge makes sense bc he was originally one of unicorn's dudes (he was the guy with the beard in the 1986 movie) but he wasn't the main one and they didn't give him his iconic beard. they gave him tarn's mask. making him kinda like a weird galvatron/scourge/tarn mashup. which is not unusual it's just funny
mirage was not the obvious choice to make the main robot guy. there was already a guy named tracks that would have been the obvious choice. same personality, same story (got stolen by a human dude, became gay best friends with him). but I guess they wanted to use the hologram powers that mirage has so they took tracks and gave him mirage's name and now he's mirage.
anyway ty for letting me tell you about robots so much ilu 🥺🥺🥺
#sorry i had a lot to say#tarn is like. decepticon secret police?#his job isnt even killing autobots it's killing decepticons for not being ideologically pure enough#he and his posse are VERY gruesome and horrible people and love to torture and drink heartblood#they kinda grossed me out the first go-round but now they're ok they can be funny#maya#maya has listened to me talk about robots so much lately 🥺🥺🥺
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the more I think about it. like yknow in bayverse Megatron and Optimus being ACTUAL related brothers could mean just as much as a usual romantic relationship but they just. didn't do anything with it. they're not even brothers.
#given that primes were a legit bloodline#making megs a prime could be interesting#my pitch: opti and him wre like the youngest of the prime lineage and not really in charge of much like their older siblings#and of course they were closest to each other than their other brothers and sisters#but with the war of the ejoorians/other aliens#shit went down#at the end the other primes were like sorry megatron you're Way Too Evil to keep your title :/#and hes like wtf. optimus you're not gonna let them do this are you?#its like a jury all primes gotta agree to kick him out#but opti does and its soooo betrayal and all#and so the war starts with megatron wanting his title back and now just to be sole ruler of all cybertronians#to add some spice to this: megatron was actually very popular#hence the sudden surge of warriors at his side to become decepticons#something something he was the only one who would help defend colonies and civilians from invaders#and generally just well-liked by most soldiers#see im not a complete fujoshi yknow?
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Ok 7 episodes into Earthspark and I REALLY like it so far. I know I’m several eps away from my half a season marker but I’m fairly confident I’ll stick with this one idk
#idk man I REALLY like twitch#I’m very excited to see the other new bots too#I enjoy this version of bee too tho I wish he was a buggy#I wish OP was voiced by Peter Cullen again but like whatever he’s been voiced by other guys too#Elita 1 mostly surprised she’s not Arcee but eh I don’t have any particular feelings towards her#REALLY not sure how I feel about negation but I think it’s interesting#and Wheeljack I mostly am thrown by his voice but otherwise I am enjoying this take on him and I think his relationship with Twitch is cute#uh I think some decepticons showed up briefly earlier in the show too but frankly I wasn’t paying attention to them much
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someone needs to grab me by my neck and stop me from making a meta post about idw soundwave and the cassettes and about how his insistence that they are equals (or at least some of them are equals) is in direct contradictory with how he actually interacts with them/how their dynamic is written throughout idw. because as much as i do think they are generally a group that cares and relies on each other (minus ratbat, who has 0 reason to gaf about any of them and vice versa), i,,, ough. its messy.
i do not think this is a weird character writing moment, i actually think it's SUPER interesting to think and talk about. but i can't,, i shan't,,, unless ✍️👀
#blight rambles#transformers#maccadam#maccadams#transformers idw#tf idw#tf idw1#transformers idw1#idw1#soundwave#idw soundwave#tf soundwave#cassetticons#tf cassettes#decepticons#do i tag the cassettes individually?? theyre not directly named BUT this is about them.#fuck it#ravage#laserbeak#buzzsaw#frenzy#rumble#as much as i think the soundwave family jokes are funny i do not think a family dynamic works for idw. at least not a typical family dynami#these are seven fully unrelated adults with their own personalities believes and wants and one of them- soundwave- is in a unique#position of power over the rest of the six. remember. ratbat rumble and frenzy were not willingly part of the team. they were forced.#soundwave clearly cares about the team but by his own admittance he doesnt see ratbat as an equal and rumble + frenzy were physically#threatened to be part of the team. even ravage laserbeak and buzzsaw are 9/10 usually seen as being subservient to him.#its INTERESTING. its GOOD. its also very painful#edit: beliefs* i shouldnt type when im tired#wish i had more time and energy to write the stuff i want.... agn.
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I have an incredible love-hate relationship with Barber's writing because I literally do think the themes of his writing and the way he keeps the lore tight-knit is better than JRO, but at the same time the actual experience of reading his comics was so average/boring that I struggle to actually recommend that anyone read them.
Like holy shit so many of the things Barber wrote are conceptually good and are literally vital to a good read on IDW1 as a whole, but are his stories actually interesting or fun to read? Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#squiggposting#the experience was like 10% good and engrossing stuff#and about 90% literally only reading because i'm waiting for something interesting to happen#and also my immersion got broken a lot by certain writing decisions he made#like most of the human/earth plot falling apart because i simply can't accept the STUPIDITY of humans working with the decepticons lmao#and the fact that out of the few times the story did make me emotional almost all of the moments were arcee related#like thank god arcee was there because if she wasn't then the story literally WOULD have no emotions or character attachments to work with#because like. barber's writing feels like it's just a sequence of events that happen one after another and you get very few feelings of lik#being invested in what's going to happen or getting any feeling for how the characters interact with each other#not like you're missing much because it feels like everyone just hates each other#and pretty much every time i read something and went 'wow that's cool i want to read more about that'#nothing ever ended up happening with that
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One thing that I absolutely love about TFOne's writing is that it manages to avoid a lot of the heavier criticism I've seen regarding MegOp's hero/villain dynamic over the years (trust me, the mid-2010s TF discourse was crazy)
*Spoilers Below*
First of all, the narrative benefits so much from the main 4 cast members all being a part of the same exploited mining class. So many takes on MegOp have Orion being of a higher status (an archivist, a cop, etc) while Megatron is much lower down on the social latter (a miner, a gladiator, often in the context of being a slave).
I've seen many people be put off by this, because it feels as if Megs is being villianized for being rightfully angry at the system that deeply harmed and exploited him, while Orion/Optimus is praised for taking a more pacifistic stance despite him not suffering as much from or in some ways even benefiting from the system he claims to oppose. I don't find their dynamic to be as simple as that, and I do find these takes to be a bit reductive, but I do very much see where they are coming from.
I am definitely one of those people who's very frustrated with the way pacifism is hailed as the one true path of morality, and the inherent implication that taking any sort of revenge on the people who abused/exploited you makes you just as bad as them. Also, Marvel's particular brand of demonizing any form of radical political action, despite the system clearly being broken and corrupt, but being completely unwilling to offer any other alternatives to meaningfully change things for the better.
When looking at what I described above its pretty easy to see how a lot of versions of MegOp's hero/villain dynamic unfortunately fits into that trope. Bringing it back to TFOne, you can see how Op and Meg coming from the same political/social status subverts this. The existence of Elita and Bee only further illustrates that out of the 4 people of the mining class who were all deceived, exploited, and literally mutilated in the same way it is only D-16 that completely loses himself to his rage, even to the point where he loses compassion for his own companions and disregarding the safety of the other miners (when he decides to "tears everything down" and Elita exclaims he's going to "kill everyone").
What I think I love most about the characterization in TFOne is that Orion is the radical one. Not only that, but he is praised by Elita and by extension the narrative for it. He is constantly challenging authority, and is the first to have the suspicion that their society is structured in an unjust way.
Meanwhile D-16, to be frank, is kind of a bootlicker. He fully believed in the system and that Sentinal Prime, as someone with power, had the right to decided "what was best" for those who are weaker/lesser (I wish I had the specific quote from D-16 to support this, but the movie's still in theaters). It illustrate that D-16 already held certain fascistic ideals, and that he and Orion already have fundamentally opposing moral/political values, it simply hasn't been of any consequence yet. It shows that their eventual falling out was inevitable, even if they had decided to rebuild Cybertron together.
It should also be noted that D-16's feelings of anger and betrayal do not necessarily have anything to do with the unjust system itself, but that said unjust system was predicated on a lie. Hence his fixation on deception in the post-credits scene and him naming his faction the Decepticons. Meanwhile, when Orion learns the truth he's just sort of like "yeah, I always kinda knew something was up" because again, he understood on some level that their system was predicated on injustice.
Even D-16's obsession with Megatronus Prime, while initially an endearing aspect of his character, is also an indicator of the questionably large amount of value he puts on one's strength. It foreshadows the "might makes right" ideology that the decepticons follow, and is a key part of their ideological characterization across continuities.
Instead of the narrative we often see in Transformers media were Optimus is idolized by the narrative for being more moderate and Megatron is villiainized for being radical (or so people often claim), it is instead Optimus who is rewarded and praised by the narrative for being radical, and Megatron who is villainized and punished by the narrative for holding potentially fascistic values.
I do agree with some criticism I've seen that the whole thing with killing Sentinel and D-16's final turn into villainy felt a bit rushed and more than a little cliche, but I also understand it both had a limited runtime and that it is ultimately a family film meant to be accessible to children. More importantly though, I think the movie set the groundwork early on that, no matter how this final act played out, D-16 was always going to turn to darkness, and Orion would not have been able to stop him.
Its perfectly tragic, the way all MegOp should be, while also feeling really well thought out from a thematic standpoint. I love it.
#transformers#tf#tfone#transformers one#orion pax#megatron#d-16#optimus prime#maccadam#megop#megatron x optimus prime#kaysposts
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Sg Breakdown, unlike its original version, is a very aggressive personality, which the decepticons prefer not to meet unnecessarily. However, he was a medic who helped in the rescue of the vehicons, albeit a little. And despite his grumblings, he did provide medical assistance, as much as was possible in their position and amount of resources.
And in this he was completely different from Knockout, who on the contrary didn't know how to fix bots (and in this case permanent operations were needed), but boasted that he was better at it. Breakdown was insulted by this, and quite often chased Knockout out of the medical bay like an annoying dog. After his death, Knockout was happy about it and immediately took the lab for himself... and cons were actually deprived of medical care.
With Airachnid, I think it's not hard to guess that such a delicate violet would reach for a scary boogeyman :D
A small explanation to this sketch. Laserbeak's main task, as in the original, is scouting. But, being a therapy pigeon, he also provided psychological support (mostly to the vehicons). Medical operations also relates to this, which Breakdown wasn't too happy about.
But Laserbeak has a knack for determining which bots he's allowed to approach and which ones he's not (He never comes close to Knockout, Megatron, or autobots in that regard). The bird often flies separately from its owner and is able to perform some tasks on its own. But this also means increased caution. _________________________ You can try to guess what made Breakdown lose his eye, by the way (¬‿¬ ) Given that the events of the sg only took place on Cybertron.
Sg Knockout
Sg Soundwave
Sg Starscream
#sketch#fanart#transformers#transformers prime#shattered glass#airachnid#breakdown#knockout#laserbeak
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