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xander: we're hawthornes, of course we're ridiculously attractive!
nash: we're hawthornes, daddy issues? please. more like grandaddy issues.
jameson: we're hawthornes, of course we don't mind dangerously risking our lives to have a little fun!
grayson: we're hawthornes, of course we're constantly weighed down by our worst mistakes and are forced live with the condemning knowledge that whatever we do will never be enough
nash, jameson, and xander: ...
jameson: dude, are you okay???
grayson, tears streaming down his face: *chokes back sob* NO
#the hawthorne brothers#the inheritance games#the hawthorne legacy#the final gambit#the brothers hawthorne#the grandest game#glorious rivals#jennifer lynn barnes#nash hawthorne#grayson hawthorne#jamesonļ»æ hawthorne#xander hawthorne#avery kylie grambs#this just randomly came to me š#has it been done?#anyways hope you guys like it lol#they should hire grayson a therapist#he is very clearly not okay#games untold
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blink and you'll miss it moments around skyhold....
#solavellan#solas#gotta put out some tender stuff to balance the chaos target team leader solas has caused.#look i just need to go feral in the tags for a moment#okay the fucking. what's he call himself? the great adversary of her people's mythology....falls in love w a woman being forced into a role#not unlike his own#i t makes me c r a z y#like at one point he's all ooooh we're elves need to make sure the humans trust us to ensure safety. gives them a castle......#then he's all ''ooh you cant change the way your legend is getting out of hand. might as well accept it''#but he disapproves if you lean into it/call yourself the herald.#he approves of you fighting against the status quo. encourages sera to sow chaos and has a VERY interesting convo w her about power#''what lop of the top?'' ''yes.'' ''well what's that do except make room for a new top to come and fuck it all up?''#at which point he fuckin STUTTERS and is like. oh fuck. you're right. my bad. and then he shuts up in quiet contemplation#he's clearly wrestling w himself. and Ohmygod the felassanstuff.#like the Guilt. the Regret.#haunting that fucking rotunda.#and yet he's so in love w lavellan if they go that route.#like clearly some stuff was missing/fumbled in game. but like#how he fuckin screams for the inquisitor at the well?????!?! OK BOI?!#im just. the dread wolf. great adversary of the dalish pantheon.#turns out to be some somber grim guy with a fatalistic sense of humor who hates tea and greatly values free will#pina art
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Hi it's just to let you know that the official romanization of Revaan's name is Raverne ! Also they have romanized Baul's name to Baur !
Twst coming back at us again with the least expected romanization! thank you everybody (oh god my inbox) (no it's great, I literally asked for this and the reactions have been INCREDIBLE, thank you all!)
I do like Raverne though, I think it's got a nice fancy sound to it! (I had kinda suspected it was going to be an R instead of an L, so the fact that it's SO close to Laverne except for that is hilarious to me personally.) and Dragoneye Duke is honestly probably the best translation for his title, I wasn't envying the localizers that one. :') Baur instead of Baul I was NOT expecting, but in retrospect I think his name's supposed to be a reference to the Bauru crocodile, so that actually makes way more sense!
someone else also said Meleanor has become Maleanor, which is the REALLY weird one to me, because I was so surprised it was written as Mel instead of Mal in the first place?! oh god no I can't decide which one I like better. š (I wonder if they might change it to Mal...they have made romanization changes before) (like I remember House of Distraction being corrected to House of Destruction in Playful Land) (I did check and she's still Mel for now, but I dunno, they might Mal her up and some point and save me from having to make a decision about which one to use) (HECK I CAN'T DECIDE)
uhhhh thank you for letting me ramble about anime names, let's just say MONOGRAMMED SWEATERS FOR EVERYONE
#twisted wonderland#twisted wonderland spoilers#twisted wonderland episode 7 spoilers#twisted wonderland book 7 spoilers#twisted wonderland episode 7 part 4 spoilers#twisted wonderland book 7 part 4 spoilers#mel is so cute but mal fits with the rest of the draconias better#eng version no you were supposed to save me not make things MORE confusing#anyway raverne huh#that uh. that sure feels like it's supposed to evoke raven doesn't it.#what does it mean WHAT DOES IT MEAN#hold on i'm going to flail around embarrassingly about anime character theories now#(okay first a disclaimer: i do think we need to sit down as a fandom at some point)#(and have a discussion about exactly what is actual canon versus meta speculation versus jokes)#(because i think there has been. some confusion. over that re:crowley and raverne specifically)#(but i do feel justified in being like THEY ARE PROBABLY CONNECTED SOMEHOW RIGHT?! right now)#like i really don't think it's as simple as crowley being raverne but with memory loss or something#(and if they pull that on us i'm going to need an EXTREMELY good explanation to go with it to justify that)#they've gone out of their way several times now to make a point about them acting and sounding different and it feels very intentional to m#(and once again: i super 100% absolutely do not believe that lilia wouldn't recognize him with the top half of his face covered)#i just think the contradictions are a lot stronger than the connections right now but there ARE some connections and i'm šing at them#to be fair the connections are mostly meta like crowley being diablo/raverne being evocative of raven#also the general 'raverne mysteriously disappeared and apparently had distinctive eyes' thing#versus 'crowley's past is unknown and he never shows his eyes'#(i will argue that crowley DOES seem to have some kind of canon connection to briar valley)#(since he is clearly some sort of fae and the masks are a briar valley thing)#and that is kinda it right now isn't it#okay hold on i had to delete some tags because i used too many (thanks tumblr for letting me know and not just vanishing them OH WAIT)#so tl;dr: i'm in the 'crowley is connected to raverne somehow but it's more complicated than just him being in disguise' camp personally#but that will probably change as we get more info and also don't take this as an anti-speculation thing because i love theories HOORAY
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#mrs flood who are you: time lord edition
#dwedit#doctor who#mrs flood#fifteenth doctor#the master#jacobi!master#tenth doctor#jack harkness#martha jones#twelfth doctor#ninth doctor#*#okay here is my argument: mrs flood IS a time lord but her presence here has nothing to do with the doctor#instead she's here because of ruby. she's seemingly part of/related to the pantheon of discord & we know that ruby is connected to them too#so i think that she was deliberately placed as ruby's neighbor by the pantheon/oldest one/ruby's mom/? in order to watch over her#it also explains why she was there to check on ruby in 1.04. once she realizes she's on the phone w carla she says 'nothing to do with me'#and she leaves. which implies that it COULD have had something to do with her. if it had been something else going on#ANYWAY. to get to the time lordness of it all. rn i personally believe that she's a time lord that's been hiding on earth for 50+ years#bc i don't think she recognized the police box as a tardis initially. that first quote should be taken at face value.#instead picture this: she's watching over ruby as per usual. a police box is there - weird but nbd. then it dematerializes in front of her.#she drops her groceries. she's shocked. she kinda looks scared. if she already knew it was a tardis why would she react like that?#so imo she knows OF tardises. she DIDN'T know the police box was one. and she's worried the time lords have found her hence the fear.#but when nothing happens and nobody comes at her she realizes she's still safe#later when she sees the doctor she realizes the tardis is his/he must be a time lord. he doesn't identify her but that's happened before#so then when she asks him who he is i think what she's actually asking for is his title. WHICH time lord are you.#bc lbr if she knows abt tardises then she knows about time lords and if she knows abt time lords she knows what it means for ruby#to be joining him - and that's why she wishes ruby good luck. meanwhile this is clearly the outcome she WANTS (them to be together)#bc she gets visibly upset when the doctor seems to decide to leave without ruby.#and for once i'm not master clowning bc the list of names the doctor gives out is VERY interesting. some of them we've never heard before:#the bishop; the conquistador; later he adds the pedant and sagi-shi and reiterates the bishop AGAIN. so i wonder if she's the bishop.....
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i can't squeeze out words for a proper episode coda but in a world where i could i'd write a fix-it where tommy gets his romcom happy ending. where it's days after the breakup and he's at home on a rainy night, miserable because he misses buck even though he's convinced he did the right thing. he's watching whatever it is that's currently playing on the hallmark channel, curled up under his softest blanket, when there's a knock on the door. thinking it's maybe eddie come to ask him what the hell's going on, he opens it to find a soaking wet buck on the other side. buck, whose hand is still in the air from where he was poised to knock again, a resolute look in his eye, and it's unfair that even sopping wet he's still the most beautiful thing tommy's ever seen. he's about to ask why he's here, but buck beats him to the punch.
"i reject your breakup," he says through chattering teeth. "now let me in so i can dry off and i can read you my extensive list of reasons why you're wrong. there are multiple categories."
they argue about it right there on the front step until they're both totally soaked through, and finally buck asks him to just stay and to trust that buck will too. and tommy does.
#and then they fuck about it obviously#everybody loves a rain soaked love confession okay it's classic#kelly watches 911#bucktommy#someone run with this I can't do words#and also clearly my desire for buck is that he fights for a relationship#this is just about Tommy getting the happy ending I think he very much longs for and thought about that with buck
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Saw this post and couldn't resist because,
1.) @tesscourtes' human!Bill is a lil cutie-patootie menace that I very badly wanted to draw, and,
2.) I have a - M I G H T Y - N E E D - for any version of human!Bill to find any way he possibly can to annoy Ford a whole lot :D
Also, 3.) I like to headcanon that Bill's knowledge in The Sciences is mostly limited to 'Ways I Can Make A Really Cool Doomsday Portal', and everything else he knows is just a slapdash mix of the stuff he remembers from whatever schooling he went through on Euclydia, a whole awful lot of lucky guesses (which he WILL gaslight you about if you tell him he's wrong), and - naturally - conning all the rest of the answers he needs out of any more educated saps who are unfortunate enough to be around him at the time (answers which he will then proceed to take credit for), so as far as I'm concerned, this "outfit" is perfect for him.
Ignore the shitty backgrounds, I am sick to death of doing backgrounds, I just want to draw goofy shenanigans, okay???
#fanart#billford#bill cipher#stanford pines#gravity falls#mabel pines#human bill cipher#my headcanon is not to say i don't think bill is smart. bill is clearly Very Smart. he just applies all his smarts to con artistry and evil#which - honestly? MOOD#tagging the ship because this particular AU is Decidedly Billford XD#i'd say 'their divorce is going so well' but i think they're too busy with doing ~other stuff~ to actually get divorced#if ya know what i mean - wink wink#i hope i drew him okay ahaha i tried my best but i am still crawling and scraping my way out of massive art burnout :ā)#and i gotta add - it is ROUGH transitioning from drawing furries to drawing regular humans again O-O;#prolly gonna draw this lil menace again with a few other human!bill designs i like all in one image :3c#for rn tho i have an equally mighty need to address a post joking about how bill is not allowed to swear and hates it#got a few perfect quotes from 'the good place' i can utilize with just that one little conceptā lemme tell ya OuO
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EDYN TIDESTRIDER, CHALLENGER OF THE UNDERSEA, RIVAL OF THE DEEP. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOUR BROTHER WAS CHOSEN TO BE A WEAPON OF THE GODS? HOW WILL YOU UNDO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO HIM?
#jrwi fanart#jrwi show#jrwi riptide#edyn tidestrider#cw blood#EDYYYNNNN TTIDESTRIDERRR OHH HOW I LOVE HERRRR#THIS IS A PAGE FULLA REEAALLY OLD DOODLES AND REALLY REALLY OLD DOODELS AND NEW DOODLES. ENJOY.#ONLY CLEANED IT UP A BUNCH TTODAY AND IM ACTUALLY SO SO HAPPY W IT WEEEEE#WHAT WAS IT LIKE? DOWN IN THE UNDERSEA. TO VISIT YOUR BROTHER WHENEVER THE ADULTS WOULD LET YOU#A KID WHO DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON OR WHY HER BROTHER WAS BEING TAKEN AWAY OR WHY HE KEEPS GETTING HURT#OR WHY THE ADULTS JUST KEEP LETTING IT HAPPEN. ITS FOR THE BEST? FATE OF THE WORLD AND ALL THAT? HEY WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE HERE#HOW DO WE STOP IT. HOW DO I STOP IT. THERES PEOPLE OUT THERE WORKING ON SOMETHING. ARITIFICIAL LEVIATHAN YOU SAY?#WE COULD BUILD A THING TO RIVAL THE GODS. WELL. SIGN ME UP. IM GOING TO UNDO WHAT THEY DID TO YOU#WHAT A FASCINATING THING SHE ACTUALLY SAID. 'IM GOING TO UNDO WHAT THEY DID TO YOU' HELLO?? EDYN? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN#WHAT EXACTLY DID THEY DO TO HIM. OTHER THAN THE PROPHECY TRAINING. YOU CAN UNDO THAT? YOU CAN UNDO ALL THAT? HOW?? HELLO???#LIKE SURE I JUST SPOUTED MY THEORIES I THINK SHE WANTS TO KILL GOD BUT THATS JUSTA THEORY... A GA#WHAT IS EDYNS GOAL AND WHY CANT SHE TELL ANYONE OOUUUHHH EDYNNNN CMERE EDYNN CMERRE STOP WALKING AWAY CMERE. COME HERE.#fuuuuuck shes so mysteriousss what is she HIDING!!shes also so so so so angry i fucken know she is. shes so gentle and so sweet and timid#but she is ANGRY and shes SMART and clearly shes AMBITIOUS bc shes TALKING TO THE FUCKING BIG HEAD HONCHO O THE FUCKEN NNAAAVYYYYY#ALSO WHO IS NICHOLAS. IF THATS EVEN HIS REAL NAME. WHO DID YYYOU MEET EDYN. DO YOU HAVE A WISH TO BE GRANTED EDYN???#CHEWING ON THE BARS O MY CELL I NNNNEEEEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT EDYN IM SO CURIOUS IMG ONNA KILL PEOPLE#i said once in another post 'the oath an eldest sister takes on is on par w that of a paladins-#-and sometimes upheld w the very same ferocity'. I REALLY LIKED THAT LINE.#pleeese... if u can hear me.. pls join me and draw edyn w unbridled plasmatic rage abt the way her brother was treated by the Elders#also pls draw her SCARY. I NEED HER TO BE SSCARY. PLEEASEE I NEED HER TO BE JUST AS VIOLENT AS GILLION BUT INA ICE COLD WAY#JUST AS VIOLENT JUST AS STRONG JUST AS MUCH OF AN AQUATIC MONSTER. im sure u see the vision.#ok i gotta go t bed now i got work in tha morning n i should nnot be stayin up this late. if u hav thoughts abt edyn pls scream abt em#okay byyyyeee goodniiigihhttttt
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Ok, so can we talk about Punz for a second? Because like when I rewatched that stream the other day, not only did I notice that it was Punz who avenged Dream by killing Tommy and returning all of his stuff, after Sapnap and Tommy had ambushed Dream and refused to return it [details] (making him truly the mvp, who really doesnāt get enough credit). But I also noticed some other fun things.
Specially this.
And this.
Tommy punches Dream -> immediately killed by Punz [clip].
Like okay maybe we could make the point that Dream pays him to kill Tommy and reclaim all of his stuff [clip], but pretty sure Dream isnāt paying him to be so protective.
#Punzā¦ care to explain yourself? :)#c!dream#dsmp#dreblr#dream smp#protective punz from the very beginning#he has friends. Iām right here. <3#dsmp analysis#c!staged duo#dsmp lore#staged duo#okay this does kinda make punz partially the starter of the disc wars by gearing up Dreamā¦#c!punz#c!stagedduo#heās so cute Iām losing it#c!drunz#dsmpblr#dishing up lore#staged duo my belovedā¦ and like clearly canonical wholesomeness#but this was early in the loreā¦ like you canāt tell me that isnāt some good friend behavior right there#c!tommy#c!discduo
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Sorry, but can I just stress something about Louis that drives me insane?Ā
In his route where you've saved him, he kills Dorian. Louis directly kills another person. He shot her with a crossbow through the mouth.
Itās unavoidable.Ā
Sure, itās considered an accident, and even so, it was also self-defenseāDorian sure wasnāt there for a friendly chat, after all.Ā
But here's the thing... of the Ericson crew, we know that Clementine, AJ, and Marlon have killed someone. And Minerva if you want to count her, too, since she once was part of the group . But the others? Maybe they have killed before and we just donāt know about it, whether it be out of mercy or self-defense.
Violet in her route had the chance to kill Minerva, but understandably, she didnāt. She opted to shoot her in the shoulder insteadā¦ but we never see her kill anyone herself.Ā
Maybe you could count indirect kills because of the bag of bricks/log that kills Yonatan, and maybe you could consider Mitchās death as indirectly Tennās faultā¦ Speaking of Mitch, he tried to kill Lilly, but we all saw how that turned out, didn't we?Ā
ā¦but Louis? He killed Dorian. That was his first kill. His first.Ā
And he feels awful about it! He apologizes to the body as it lays warm at his feet! Heās shaking and can barely speak!! It feels like bile! He doesn't even have time to process it because uh oh, the boat's going to explode!
But heās also been so hardened over the season by everything thatās happened to him that he comes out of it glad that he has it in him to kill because if thatās what it takes to protect Clementine, AJ, and his family and home, then heāll do it even if he doesnāt want to.
How does that not drive anyone else utterly mad?
Fandom considers him the funny guy! He's cute and silly! He makes Clementine laugh!
He's also done murder! He's taken a life! Just like Clementine and AJ have! Just like Marlon did!
And honestly, I think this also leads to him forgiving AJ for killing Tenn because at this point, he understands. He hates it, and he wishes it didnāt have to be this way, but he gets that AJ saw something that he didnāt. Louis knows that AJās hurting just as much as he is, he even says as much if Clementine says anything other than āAJ saved your lifeā on the bridge.Ā
He relived Marlonās death when Tenn died, but itās not like his hands are clean, eitherā¦ and neither were Marlonās. Clementineās hands definitely arenāt clean.Ā
It drives me crazy that best friends Louis and Marlon have each killed someone in TFS but Marlon killed Brody in a moment of panic because heās a coward who wanted hide what he did while Louis killed Dorian in a moment of panic because he was trying to save Clementine from Minerva and she came up behind him likeā¦ hhhhnnnnggggggggg, yāknow?
Oh, and don't even get me started on the clouis aspect of this because I'll lose it. He talks to her about it because he knows she'll understand, just like how she's always understood him. How he goes out of his way to tell her that having a home means protecting it and he's going to protect it [that home being her, AJ, and Ericson] no matter what because he wants to build this new life with her aaaaaaaaaaaaaand I've lost itā
#twdg louis#twdg clementine#twdg clouis#twdg aj#twdg marlon#twdg tenn#twdg#some louis thoughts tonight because i'm starved#and because i feel like this is glossed over in a lot of ways like we're aware that it happened but we don't stop to think oh shit#sure we could say everyone at ericson is responsible for killing the delta because they blew up the boat sure sure#but aasim ruby omar violet willy and tenn never directly killed anyone with a weapon BUT LOUIS DID#after everything that happened with marlon killing brody and then aj killing him and louis being so devastated by it#only for him to have blood on his hands over everyone else is so..... hnnnggggg i'm chewing on it always#and sure he clearly didn't intend to kill dorian BUT he had that cross bow pointed at minerva and i wholeheartedly believe#he would've pulled that trigger if dorian didn't show up like yes he hesitated and went 'minerva i'm warning you' but he WOULD'VE#the whole thing is just very interesting to me okay let me ramble about it
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Shigure's relationship with Kyo drives me crazy. he doesn't hate Kyo in the slightest - in fact, he pities Kyo, and not in the condescending "oh you poor little boy, cursed to be a horrible, disgusting monster" sort of way that everyone else does. Shigure pities Kyo for the reason he should be pitied: he's just a kid caught up in a system so inhumane it can't possibly be survived without some seriously unhealthy coping mechanisms.
and it drives me crazy because - listen, Shigure is the only zodiac member who's emotionally aware enough to see the other zodiac members as exactly what they are. he knows Yuki is a severely traumatized kid who projects all of his self-hatred on a single convenient target. he knows Akito is really a scared little girl with a raging god complex (literally) and no concept of a healthy relationship. and he knows Kyo is a regular-ass human being who doesn't deserve to be locked up for the rest of his life just because some arbitrary system says so. he KNOWS it's stupid. he KNOWS it's ridiculous and unfair. and he has to share a house with Kyo knowing that Kyo is living with a sword over his head, hating himself and hating others in perfect tandem because he has no other way of coping with the insane amounts of negativity he's had to deal with his entire life.
but the thing about Shigure is that he KNOWS all of this, and the same time he doesn't really CARE. he feels sorry for Kyo, but an apathetic sort of pity, a disinterested "this is how it is. such a shame." sort of pity. in some ways he's worse than the other zodiacs because he DOES see Kyo as a person, someone he likes being around even, but he still considers Kyo below his attention because all his focus is on Akito and breaking the curse. and sure, once the curse is broken Kyo will theoretically be set free with the rest of them, but that's more of a coincidental side effect than anything. despite being in a much more dangerous and precarious mental space AND comfortably in Shigure's reach, Kyo is about as much a priority for Shigure as Ritsu or Momiji.
and it drives me CRAZY because i think Shigure does start actively caring about Kyo as the series goes on, but it's hard to tell when that happens and to what extent. when Kazuma told Shigure he planned to reveal Kyo's true form and Shigure said he was going too far - whose sake was it for? was Shigure trying to protect Kyo, who would be hideously traumatized/emotionally scarred by such a cruel betrayal? was he trying to protect Kyo and Tohru's relationship, which was still formulating and might, under such severe testing, ultimately end up damaged beyond repair? was he only trying to protect Tohru, who wasn't ready to be burdened by such a horrible aspect of the curse so soon, or perhaps simply didn't deserve it? or was it all for the sake of himself, trying to protect his still-forming plans of using Tohru's positive effect on the Sohmas to break the curse?
Shigure cares about Kyo, but they're not close and Kyo clearly isn't a priority. he treats Kyo like a person - offering him genuine advice, teasing him like he teases anyone else, even speaking up on his behalf once or twice - and yet he's too entrenched in the long game to spare much active interest in Kyo. for a very long time, he doesn't care about Kyo the way he cares about Yuki or Tohru, and it's never made clear when exactly that changed. and the thing that gets me about this whole situation is that right from the start, Shigure is in a position where he can meet Kyo at his level - as equals, just one human being to another - but he doesn't, because Shigure is a chessmaster, Shigure is someone who observes and calculates, Shigure never steps in unless one of his chess pieces makes a wrong move and he absolutely has to.
it drives me crazy. Shigure drives me crazy. this series drives me so so crazy.
#i think my point here was āshigure sees kyo as an actual human being but still treats him badlyā#which is kind of the point of shigure - it's why he's such a gray character#he plays with people's lives like they're toys#but this post actually originated from the realization that shigure doesn't hate kyo in the slightest#(honestly i don't think the majority of the zodiac actually *dislikes* kyo. i think they're just too used to dehumanizing him)#and i was like āokay. so how *does* shigure view kyo?ā#and then i thought about it more and went progressively more insane#tbf i think shigure knew he was being immoral in the way he treated kyo#he's incredibly self-aware and knows exactly what he's doing#he just chooses to do it anyway. that's why he calls himself ādespicableā#i think the fact that kyo clearly suspects shigure has something more going on under the surface probably didn't help either#it's a very interesting sort of complex#anyway. them#fruits basket#shigure sohma#kyo sohma#analysis#edited for your convenience#(<-capitalized all the names bc it was driving me up the wall)
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100% Sousuke was expecting a kiss in this scene, you can't convince me otherwise.
#okay i'm actually like 85% serious with this but#the partially-off-screen hug(?)#the fact that he was about to ask for some sort of reward for saving the day but we don't get to hear what it was#and then clearly was shocked by kou's giant void but didn't respond specifically to him grabbing his face#it's all very hmmm#jshk#tbhk#mitsukou
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Dr. Stanford F. Pines, here.
Iāve just regained consciousness on the shore of Lake Gravity FallsāMy lips have the faintest fish taste on them, and every bone and joint in my body feels like theyāve been ripped apart and put back in-place.
There is an aching in my chest, a tangle of knots in my stomachāSomething is caught in my throat. I can barely speak.
Mabel.
Mabel?
Where is Mabel. I need to find Mabel.
#heās crying and he doesnāt even realize it#imagine him getting up and. stumbling all pathetically. like a pathetic man.#he is quite literally a soggy wet cat.#fold-up cane comes in clutch!#he just wants to find mabel. sheās all he can clearly remember.#he walks a bit and has to stop so he doesnāt collapse#he wants to make sure calypso is okay too but. heās very very conflicted on that at the moment.#ford pines#calypso the siren#mabel pines#oh my dear mabel.#gravity falls roleplay#the mind boggles#ā ļøš§š»#BILLYPSO ARC OVER
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The Syd Poll
the topic of this poll is one that is frequently avoided in the pink floyd fandom, but inevitably one we all consider āĀ our individual views on what we think caused syd's psychological struggles (and by extension, led to his departure from the band). I think that ā at least in this neighborhood of tumblr āĀ this is a conversation we are capable of having in a way that is civil, nuanced, and at least minimally disrespectful to syd.
So, to help facilitate this, here are some ground rules:
let's all assume we have a mutual understanding of the complexities of this. syd could never actually be reduced down to a poll, and all of our viewpoints are limited in various ways
the poll options just serve as just a conversation starter, and responses are not necessarily a statement of absolute beliefs
feel free to discuss as much or as little of your own perspective as you feel comfortable sharing.
in the case that debates break out, please try to assume good intent ā and also demonstrate it (unless, for instance, someone is being blatantly insulting beyond a misunderstanding that needs correcting)
please do NOT vote if you are not actually a pink floyd fan with at least basic knowledge about what we're talking about here.
The options I've included below are not meant to be exhaustive, they are simply the "theories" that I have seen most commonly circulated. I have also decided not to include combinations. I'm fairly sure we'd all agree multiple factors were involved. Rather than make the poll too complicated, I ask you to instead select the one that you think is the "most" important to your viewpoint, and clarify further in your tags/comments as you wish.
so. here we go.
READ BEFORE VOTING ^^^^
(note of correction: "late-onset schizophrenia" should just be "schizophrenia". the typical timeline for onset of symptoms is late adolescence/early adulthood, so syd would've been well within that period at the time)
#pink floyd#syd barrett#//#I will sacrifice myself and go first with way too much detail. hopefully it will help other people feel more comfortable talking#I chose consensual use of psychedelics. mainly bc I am fairly certain that he suffered from severe hppd#it stands for 'hallucinogen persisting perception disorder' āspeaking crudely its 'did too much acid and got stuck like that'#I do NOT expect this kind of oversharing from anyone else but the reason I think that is because -I- definitely have that#its comparatively mild but I notice a lot of the same kind of impacts.#I'm more prone to dissociation and overstimulation. it takes more mental energy to communicate. my perception plays a bit fast and loose.#(again. it's not -that- bad. and NO pity for me this was a completely predictable outcome that I DO think is a little funny) but digressing#I can clearly see how if those symptoms were significantly escalated it would be just like what was described by ppl who knew syd#I think its very unkind to refer to him as a ādrug casualtyā#but I'm fairly confident anyone who's done acid would say by about hour 8 of the trip āokay. yah. too much of this could do that to someone#in other words āalthough I'm pretty sure syd was also neurodivergentā I do think its at least possible that the lsd couldve been enough#I'm happy to talk more about any of this in asks/dms if anyone wants. genuinely very cool with discussing it#but anyway. that's my take ā obviously based entirely on anecdotal evidence tho so take that with as many grains of salt as you wish
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i think that the concept of haskill + mantling as a gradual process is the coolest everever, because imagine you serve a god for ages but regularly hes replaced by another person... haskill knows sheogorath's personality will overtake the HoK's eventually but theres still a period where sheo's essentially died and been replaced, and this new person barely knows him even if he technically knows everything about them. i imagine theres a lot of onesidedness, cos haskill's unfalteringly loyal to / caring for / knowledgeable about someone who basically doesn't know who he is and maybe its a little tragic for him to watch sheogorath forget himself over and over
i can imagine him bringing (for example) tea to the HoK a few months into their mantling transformation, and the HoK is like "wow i didn't even know i liked this kind of tea before" and haskill just stoically goes "very good, your grace" but inside he knows that, of course they like it, its sheogorath's favorite. ough. agh. ough <- taking overtime poison damage from this thought
#and then eventually sheogorath remembers everything. can you imagine how secretly happy haskill gets#sheogorath (when he remembers) clearly appreciates haskill and thinks very highly of him which is so heartwarming#he calls him 'faithful' and 'a big help' with 'more brains than a brain pie' 'snappy dresser' 'dear haskill' etc etc. hnngnfg#theyre like the 'theyll find each other in every timeline' thing but with the greymarches fr#haskill#sheogorath#tes#im just rambling now but the angst potential.. the pining... but then everyhting turns out okay... OUGH <- the overtime damage starts again
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did some JLI headshots to try and get a feel for them
#justice league international#jli#ted kord#micheal jon carter#guy gardner#tora olafsdotter#beatriz da costa#dmitri pushkin#nate adams#maxwell lord#j'onn j'onzz#scott free#blue beetle#booster gold#ice dc#fire dc#red rocket#captain atom#max lord#martian manhunter#mister miracle#dcu#dc fanart#dc comics#okay i THINK thats all the housekeeping tags#sorry gavril and jaime i did the first one and then i had to make the second one match so there wasnt enough slots.......one day maybe#i cant stop laughing over how most of these are very clearly influenced by my style. and then theres nate#listen he just doesnt look right if hes not in a 'traditional' comics style idk what you want from me!!#im the guy who always draws headshots 3/4 facing left your art teachers warned you about#also you can ask me jli questions but i may not have answers. they are simply dear blorbos-in-law to me
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people love an "i'll take care of you" "it's rotten work" "not to me, not if it's you" character dynamic until the character who needs to be taken care of is disabled. then it's supposedly fucked up and toxic for a person to have to take care of someone else.
#eliot posts#this is continuing off that last post i reblogged#that time i was like ''aw tumblr is out of new posts for this character i like. reddit is empty too. lemme check twitter''#BIG MISTAKE#i had to see the hot take of#''it's fucked up to ship this because character A had to be character B's caretaker. that's basically slavery.''#LIKE BRUH???#have you. ever met a couple where one of them is disabled and needs a caretaker? bc that's a very real thing that happens and it's not toxi#honestly usually the risk in those situations is the power the caretaker nay have over their disabled partner#but that imbalance can be properly navigated#and is not a concern in these two characters' case bc there is a very clear mutual respect there#caregiver fatigue is a real problem too of course but that's ALSO something that can be successfully navigated#and in these particular characters' case doesn't seem like it would be an issue because like#character b also has professional caretakers who will likely continue to be part of his life if needed#(and the money to hire more if not)#like it's okay to not like the ship#maybe the age gap of someone in their 20s w someone in the equivalent of their 30s squicks you out#maybe you monogamously ship one or both of them w someone else#maybe you think their dynamic is way more interesting from a platonic angle than from a romantic one#maybe you just aren't interested in their dynamic#those are all fair points! i'm not even ride or die for that ship myself#but jesus fucking christ you don't gotta be ableist about it#oh or the equally bad take i saw on there of#''character a could never be attracted to character b. he just sees char b as a sick dying old dog that he needs to take care of''#like no! character a clearly respects and values character b! they are friends! the issue is just that YOU see character b as a dying dog.
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