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Something I also noticed when making my video is that Dream doesn’t crouch in front of Quackity that whole visit with Techno. And I don’t know I just find that interesting…

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Ohhhh you are so right that’s a good point. I never thought about it like that, cuz obviously it makes sense as a game mechanic so you can make potions in the Nether. But you are right in order for that to make sense it must have some magical property that makes that possible. A magical property that is perhaps cooler than the cell and a good place to chill in :) [post]… course that doesn’t account for the water in the toilet corner but then again it doesn’t make much sense in general since Dream goes from hiding in there 1 sec to talking about the poo the next [post], maybe that corner is just exempt from logic lol…

Now that y’all got me thinking about the brutality of the obsidian cell from it’s hardness [<>] to its heat [<>] [@simplepotatofarmer - <>] and sharpness [@hiding-in-the-vault - <> <> <>], it’s no wonder Dream hops up onto the lectern and cauldron and sits in the water in the corner and sink. I just thought it was cute and funny like part of his bouncing around, but honestly it makes sense.

Being on anything other than the torturous obsidian would be desirable, the wood would be way cooler as it doesn’t absorb or retain heat as much and it isn’t sharp like the volcanic glass or hard so it relieves the pressure of his weight. The cauldron would also be a smoother surface and being in the water also helps carry his weight lightening the burden on his joints. Debatable if it’d be cooler, but since it isn’t evaporated like it would be realistically, we could say it isn’t boiling then and therefore cooler than sweltering obsidian. Course the iron would be worse, maybe we could say it’s cooler from the water… in any case I guess it isn’t just about bouncing around or having the high ground this time, poor boy just needed a break from the savage obsidian….

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I mean just look how cute he is

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Alrighty here it it, the prison arc set to music :] hope you enjoy the madness and fun, it’s been kinda interesting to see it all next to another like this.

don’t forgot to like and subscribe <3

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I need you to know that i read too many of your posts that i have now started copying your dot-dot-dots....

Omg really? Thats so funny XD And see I only started doing it because my dad did it in text messages all the time and then for some reason I started to do it… I don’t know, but I think it does a good job showing my adhd brain sliding before picking back up into a coherent thought again lol…<3 <3

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Now that y’all got me thinking about the brutality of the obsidian cell from it’s hardness [<>] to its heat [<>] [@simplepotatofarmer - <>] and sharpness [@hiding-in-the-vault - <> <> <>], it’s no wonder Dream hops up onto the lectern and cauldron and sits in the water in the corner and sink. I just thought it was cute and funny like part of his bouncing around, but honestly it makes sense.

Being on anything other than the torturous obsidian would be desirable, the wood would be way cooler as it doesn’t absorb or retain heat as much and it isn’t sharp like the volcanic glass or hard so it relieves the pressure of his weight. The cauldron would also be a smoother surface and being in the water also helps carry his weight lightening the burden on his joints. Debatable if it’d be cooler, but since it isn’t evaporated like it would be realistically, we could say it isn’t boiling then and therefore cooler than sweltering obsidian. Course the iron would be worse, maybe we could say it’s cooler from the water… in any case I guess it isn’t just about bouncing around or having the high ground this time, poor boy just needed a break from the savage obsidian….

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I wonder, if there's comments saying cdream wears black clothes, then i wonder if he wear something different at the start. Like it'd makes sense with all the stuff of looking edgy and intimidating and villanous he was going for in some moment but now i wonder, cdream should have a different outfit at the start right? Like i don't think the cdream from the start of the server Would dress like cdream of idk pogtopia or post prison etc. This is like an "choose what You want" type of interpretation but i wonder how much different it'd be, i personally think that maybe cdream at the start dressed with the colours of his skin, bright green, until later on. Tho the idea of everyone running worried and about to kill a "Titan" in vault of attachments, and the dude they're scared of is dressed with green clothes so bright that they'll leave You blind xd

I mean we are given by Tommy that Dream wears black as far back as at least right after the Pogtopia vs Manberg war:

But he also lists green as a description and there is the fact that they still refer to him as a green bitch with Wilbur even calling him a lizard snake so who knows I guess the fair assumption is he did wear green before or wore nothing? Or perhaps he has green skin. Then again, Tommy also reveals that Dream is wearing a mask

So how can they tell he’s green ya know? Leaving, to me, the most reasonable choice is that he does dress in green and I do like to think it was neon and then perhaps got darker over time because symbolism and all that :). Perhaps his clothes were black but he has a green cloak or something. Or you could run with the green skin idea and say he’s like maybe a zombie hybrid?

But yea them being afraid of him dressed in neon is funny and I actual note it in one of my chapters of Misery Loves and Idiot (here is the alternate version I posted also):

“Do you actually fucking think everyone would fear me less in—in pink instead?”

Nope. It wouldn’t have fucking mattered! It wouldn’t have mattered at all. Not in the slightest. No, he just wanted peace and freedom and that made him a tyrant. Pink, purple, yellow it wouldn’t have made a difference. Not once they saw him as the villain. Not once the propaganda had spread. It was over the moment he refused to give in. The moment he questioned the motive and purpose. The moment he fought back against unjust laws and exclusion. After all, he disagreed and that made him wrong.

It didn’t take him dressing in threatening black to be claimed the bad guy. He wore bright fucking green. The black came later. The cruelty came later. The scary came later. The villainy came later. But that was after his role had been inscribed into the stone of everyone’s minds.

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I’m losing my mind… sooo a little bit ago I was combing through the Revival Book video for my fic and I noticed something interesting — The map

What about the map? Look closely…

You’ll notice that marked by turquoise is none on than the - vine covered Doomsday’s grid over the water filled L’manhole! Confirming that this conversation and therefore the experiments on Vik and Lazar took place after prison.

Which means quite a few earth shattering things. Firstly, the revival book likely was not the main factor that drove him mad to the point of putting himself in the prison like we might have suspected. This also means that just in general, Dream is not as prepared, planned, well thought out and as mastermind as we thought, and a lot of things were actually more genuine after all.

Because if he didn’t know that the revival book worked (which is implied by the dialogue in this video over the map) then he really must have trusted the server and Tommy to not kill him permanently and the revival book mention was more likely a really desperate afterthought last card that he hadn’t even used yet (honestly he hardly had the time to be fair - but thankfully he memorized it I guess), which oh just really makes the server almost letting him die permanently sting so much more. Plus, this also suggests that maybe Punz did not have the revive book before prison (the dialogue in this scene certainly suggests as much), and it means Dream really was adamantly afraid of dying in prison, making his stubbornness to not give up the book and endure the torture make a lot more sense. Further highlighting that he also was likely not as prepared or thick skinned going into the prison as we might have thought. It also implies that he is likely being truthful about Tommy being his first revival. Oh and there’s also the fact that in this conversation he suggests killing Philza after Philza helped rescue him, which just… rude (but that doesn’t really make sense anyways since I doubt he would want to piss off Techno but still)… and since we now know the experiments with Vik and Lazar happened after prison I’d say that if staged duo did experiments on eachother it would also be after prison because why would you test on yourself before knowing that it can bring you back from any death, that’s pretty risky, (which also aligns with Dream having his original 3 lives in the staged finale).

Oh and if that wasn’t crazy enough, I also noticed there are end rods in the laboratory!

Heeeeehhhhh?!!!….. Which means they went to The End (and I already kinda suspected that since they talked about it in the finale, but I certainly didn’t think they went before/(during?) the basic experiments on Vikk and Lazar.) And not only did they go to the End they went to an End City, which does that mean they have like elytras?…

Have I blow your mind yet? Because I’m losing my shit…

{This is all of course unless we are to take these as accidental inconsistencies and flaws in the video from a lack of due diligence (since I’m pretty sure the ccs hired someone to make it) and ignore it or retcon it, (which wouldn’t be the most unreasonable thing since the dialogue in that scene suggests that they don’t know it works at all - “but what if it does work?” which doesn’t make sense for them to say after he already brought back Wilbur and Tommy). Or alternatively, we could also go the route of disregarding things due to my other theory about the video [post] and say that since it’s from DreamXD’s pov it’s messed up because he misremembered the lore as he’s a god and wasn’t paying that much attention to detail…}

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Now that y’all got me thinking about the brutality of the obsidian cell from it’s hardness [<>] to its heat [<>] [@simplepotatofarmer - <>] and sharpness [@hiding-in-the-vault - <> <> <>], it’s no wonder Dream hops up onto the lectern and cauldron and sits in the water in the corner and sink. I just thought it was cute and funny like part of his bouncing around, but honestly it makes sense.

Being on anything other than the torturous obsidian would be desirable, the wood would be way cooler as it doesn’t absorb or retain heat as much and it isn’t sharp like the volcanic glass or hard so it relieves the pressure of his weight. The cauldron would also be a smoother surface and being in the water also helps carry his weight lightening the burden on his joints. Debatable if it’d be cooler, but since it isn’t evaporated like it would be realistically, we could say it isn’t boiling then and therefore cooler than sweltering obsidian. Course the iron would be worse, maybe we could say it’s cooler from the water… in any case I guess it isn’t just about bouncing around or having the high ground this time, poor boy just needed a break from the savage obsidian….

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Ah while on the topic of obsidian, while I was looking for secrets on the dsmp map I found this chest hidden by the prison filled with obsidian…

and I almost wonder if it’s from creative or something, even though Sam does say how he’s always done things in survival. And originally I thought I had found evidence for Dream using creative for obsidian because while some characters like Techno tend to reference Dream using creative mode as a joke [clip], during the exile discussion era other people accused him of cheating for all that obsidian he uses for the wall. To George he simply says he didn’t get it from creative but will not disclose the source [clip] and isn’t exactly the most truthful sounding. In the exile meeting room, despite Tubbo’s assessment that Dream plays so hard core he doesn’t sleep, Dream responds with he got it from a friend [clip].

And yeah I always kinda wondered if that was a wink to XD or something and Dream was lying. After all the finale does kinda make his op canon [post], but nope in this case at least it was Puffy lol, who gave it to him after he spent time on her stream as her duckling and Uber driver :)

Anyways, just a fun fact for you. As far as the chest near the prison? No idea, but it is definitely sus to be fair.

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Do you have the stream vod of the first L'manberg vs dream smp war from c!Punz's perspective? No matter where I look I can't find it, it's not even in special playlists, I think it's lost media at this point. It's sad because it have some interesting moments, showing c!Dream's character and motivation, for example the fact that he originally planned to give L'manberg technical independence regardless of the outcome of the war :(

Okay, it seems Punz has made the videos private, through the wayback machine though I was able to view and record the first video (this is where Dream talks about planning to give them their independence even if they win). My phone and mediocre WiFi at work probably aren’t strong enough to post the recording right now though, but I’ll do it when I get home. I’m still trying to view the part 2 but it won’t let me :/ maybe I’ll have better success with the computer later.

here is the link to the wayback

For part one at least.

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As you should… besides I’m starting to want to headcanon that crying obsidian is cold, cuz shiny purple liquid should have magical properties after all…

okay but i still headcanon that obsidian in minecraft is unnaturally cold, it's just my headcanon ;__;

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I mean just look how cute he is

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Now that y’all got me thinking about the brutality of the obsidian cell from it’s hardness [<>] to its heat [<>] [@simplepotatofarmer - <>] and sharpness [@hiding-in-the-vault - <> <> <>], it’s no wonder Dream hops up onto the lectern and cauldron and sits in the water in the corner and sink. I just thought it was cute and funny like part of his bouncing around, but honestly it makes sense.

Being on anything other than the torturous obsidian would be desirable, the wood would be way cooler as it doesn’t absorb or retain heat as much and it isn’t sharp like the volcanic glass or hard so it relieves the pressure of his weight. The cauldron would also be a smoother surface and being in the water also helps carry his weight lightening the burden on his joints. Debatable if it’d be cooler, but since it isn’t evaporated like it would be realistically, we could say it isn’t boiling then and therefore cooler than sweltering obsidian. Course the iron would be worse, maybe we could say it’s cooler from the water… in any case I guess it isn’t just about bouncing around or having the high ground this time, poor boy just needed a break from the savage obsidian….

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I could be wrong, but I feel like you’re not the only one who headcanons this. I have read plenty of fics and seen art and animatics where Techno drapes his cape onto Dream’s shoulders as if he’s cold, despite being in a boilin’ cell. And to be fair, Dream does call the lava wall a fireplace where you can warm, so maybe he is cold.

Also in real life at room temperature obsidian can feel cool to the touch so that may be where this idea stems. Additionally, due to its thermal properties it cools and heats up fast so when the lava is down for a while perhaps we could say there is a little reprieve vs something like iron which holds onto the heat. In fact, in theory it could even feel potentially slightly cooler than the air in the cell, especially the floor where there isn’t lava underneath. I mean it wouldn’t be cold, but I can see the logic behind it.

But perhaps we could say that there is a property/material/magic in the crying obsidian that cools the cell to make it habitable and balance things out like you said and maybe even make it cold… on the opposite side I’ve rarely seen people detail the burns he would realistically have.

i think my most out there headcanon that i use in all my fics but probably makes a bunch of people go ??? is that i believe obsidian in minecraft is naturally cold. i have no basis for this headcanon other than i feel like it's true in my heart and i was like 'oh if it's cold then that would even out the heat of the lava from the prison cell' but really the whole thing is vibes based.

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— Dreamweaver — Ch 2: Woven From The Fabric Our Dreams Make

He cries as the sun rises to meet him and he screams in reply to it. The blood curdling, high-pitched sound made of everything he has. He yells and sobs for a long time, until his voice gives out and he has run out of tears. Until it hurts. Until his head pounds rapidly against his skull. Until his body aches across every inch. Until he wakes up shaking.

Couldn’t decide on which cover art to go with so I figured I’d just post this one too :)

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I’m losing my mind… sooo a little bit ago I was combing through the Revival Book video for my fic and I noticed something interesting — The map

What about the map? Look closely…

You’ll notice that marked by turquoise is none on than the - vine covered Doomsday’s grid over the water filled L’manhole! Confirming that this conversation and therefore the experiments on Vik and Lazar took place after prison.

Which means quite a few earth shattering things. Firstly, the revival book likely was not the main factor that drove him mad to the point of putting himself in the prison like we might have suspected. This also means that just in general, Dream is not as prepared, planned, well thought out and as mastermind as we thought, and a lot of things were actually more genuine after all.

Because if he didn’t know that the revival book worked (which is implied by the dialogue in this video over the map) then he really must have trusted the server and Tommy to not kill him permanently and the revival book mention was more likely a really desperate afterthought last card that he hadn’t even used yet (honestly he hardly had the time to be fair - but thankfully he memorized it I guess), which oh just really makes the server almost letting him die permanently sting so much more. Plus, this also suggests that maybe Punz did not have the revive book before prison (the dialogue in this scene certainly suggests as much), and it means Dream really was adamantly afraid of dying in prison, making his stubbornness to not give up the book and endure the torture make a lot more sense. Further highlighting that he also was likely not as prepared or thick skinned going into the prison as we might have thought. It also implies that he is likely being truthful about Tommy being his first revival. Oh and there’s also the fact that in this conversation he suggests killing Philza after Philza helped rescue him, which just… rude (but that doesn’t really make sense anyways since I doubt he would want to piss off Techno but still)… and since we now know the experiments with Vik and Lazar happened after prison I’d say that if staged duo did experiments on eachother it would also be after prison because why would you test on yourself before knowing that it can bring you back from any death, that’s pretty risky, (which also aligns with Dream having his original 3 lives in the staged finale).

Oh and if that wasn’t crazy enough, I also noticed there are end rods in the laboratory!

Heeeeehhhhh?!!!….. Which means they went to The End (and I already kinda suspected that since they talked about it in the finale, but I certainly didn’t think they went before/(during?) the basic experiments on Vikk and Lazar.) And not only did they go to the End they went to an End City, which does that mean they have like elytras?…

Have I blow your mind yet? Because I’m losing my shit…

{This is all of course unless we are to take these as accidental inconsistencies and flaws in the video from a lack of due diligence (since I’m pretty sure the ccs hired someone to make it) and ignore it or retcon it, (which wouldn’t be the most unreasonable thing since the dialogue in that scene suggests that they don’t know it works at all - “but what if it does work?” which doesn’t make sense for them to say after he already brought back Wilbur and Tommy). Or alternatively, we could also go the route of disregarding things due to my other theory about the video [post] and say that since it’s from DreamXD’s pov it’s messed up because he misremembered the lore as he’s a god and wasn’t paying that much attention to detail…}