#hazbin leaks

[ameliathetadclover]

Quite frankly I’m disgusted. I just want to apologise to SpindleHorse, Vivziepop, the VAs, etc.

If you didn’t know, there were some leaks regarding Rosie, Alastor and Sera. I won’t go into the details and I’m like 80% sure they’re actual leaks and not fan animation.

It came up on my TikTok fyp and at first I thought they were fan animations but when I realised they were actual leaks I felt horrible.

Please look out everyone for these season two leaks as to not spoil the season, I now know a key plot point that I wish I didn’t know.

[chaifootsteps]

Absolutely buttfucking insane (in a bad way) that Viv straight up made human Alastor look like Cab Calloway, then made him a pathetic loser and a slave to a white woman who happily refers to him as her pet and makes him dance. I feel like I'm drunk.

[woofs-silly-ships]

Oh. Oh holy hell

HEAVY WARNING FOR THE HAZBIN LEAKS. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT BE MAD AT ME IF YOU WILLINGLY CLICK ON THIS AND GET SPOILED.

Tw: Mentions of Poison/Angel Dust’s abuse, Aphobia (from Viv and Hazbin, not me. Frick Aphobes or any kind of queerphobe /srs)

This is almost certainly real and that makes me

I think I feel worse than when the Poison leaks happened

And that was bad

Yet I think this might be worse… because at least some survivors do relate to and find comfort in Poison and Angel as a whole. At least people knew he was suffering from and dealing with this abuse. This… people couldn’t have seen this coming.

Alastor and Rosie’s relationship was one of the few actually well written ones in this freaking show. And they just screwed it the hell up

Alastor being owned by/selling his soul to Lilith made so much sense. Of course Lilith would care about his child’s dream, of course she would hide him away in heaven after a (likely) bad fight with Vox, of course if he was in heaven nobody could find him, of course he’d be so fearful of the literal Queen of hell.

If Alastor is owned by Rosie, why the hell would he actually be genuinely comfortable around her as shown in season one? Rosie wouldn’t give a shit about the hotel as well, I’m sorry but like huh??? She has 0 relation to the founders or guests besides Al??? Also there’s no freaking way that Rosie would be able to hide Alastor IN HELL FOR 7 FREAKING YEARS AND AVOID ALL DETECTION. If Vox’s cameras didn’t catch him in a HEAVILY POPULATED TOWN, there’s literally no way some random diner didn’t catch a glimpse of him or something??? And Al is probably on the level below Rosie power wise, there’s no way he wouldn’t have rebelled at some point, even if he lost???

But yeah, I’m beating around the bush here. Elephant in the room time.

The whole song and animation and everything leans WAYYYY too into the aspect of Alastor being Rosie’s pet, and that creeps me out so much. Because it again feels fetishized. Way too reminiscent of pet play and such, which I already don’t like on its own but I’m not getting into that. I wouldn’t even have an issue with it if

1. Rosie was portrayed as an actual big bad and not “secretly silly”, same issue as Val

2. ALASTOR WASNT FREAKING ASEXUAL. AND ROSIE WAS LITERALLY THE ONE TO CONFIRM THAT IN CANON (the “ace in the hole” scene was one of my favorites and now it’s ruined for me. Of course.)

I know k!nky asexuals exist and are completely valid and yall are awesome, and I’d be fine seeing that represented if, you know, ALASTOR WASNT SHOWN TO BE FREAKING SEX REPULSED?? HAVE WE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FREAKING

^^^ THIS???

AND GOING BACK TO WHAT I SAID BEFORE: AT LEAST SURVIVORS WHO RELATE TO ANGEL KNEW THAT HE WAS A VICTIM LONG BEFORE THE RELEASE OF POISON AND S1. MANY FELT BETRAYED BY IT AND THATS VERY VERY VALID, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN FAR WORSE (as in, Addict could’ve never existed, Angel fans including survivors could’ve had no idea of what he was going through before being thrown into the mess that is Poison). THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO FORESHADOWING OF THIS WITH ALASTOR. IVE SEEN SO MANY ASEXUALS LOVE AND RELATE TO AL AND TAKE WHAT LITTLE REPRESENTATION THEY GET IN STRIDE, AND IM SO SCARED TO SEE THEM DEAL WITH THE FETISHIZATION OF THEIR SEXUALITY. THAT WILL HURT ME MORE THAN WHATEVER THE PLOT DOES. IF YOU ARE ASEXUAL AND RELATE TO AL THEN I AM SO FREAKING SORRY FOR YOU, ESPECIALLY IF THIS ENDS UP HURTING YOU AS MUCH AS IT DOES ME /GEN

ALSO, APPARENTLY VIV IS DOUBLJNG DOWN FROM POISON BECAUSE THERE’S SOME CHEERY UPBEAT AH MUSIC BEING SUNG ABOUT ALASTOR BASICALLY BEING CHAINED AND ABUSED FOR THE MAJORITY OF HIS AFTERLIFE AND ALSO BASICALLY BEING SHOVED INTO A PET-PLAY KINK LIKE THING AS AN UNWILLING AND UNCOMFORTABLE (AND ASEXUAL) PARTICIPANT

Urghhh, I’m sorry I just really needed to get that out. Posting this on my selfship blog since it’s more contained and I have 2 Hazbin f/os anyway

Since I’m here anyway, yeah my Hellaverse AU won’t have any of this crap. Alastor will be owned by either Lilith or Roo, whichever one makes more sense when S2 comes out and we see more of Lilith and see if Roo was scrapped or not. Right now he’s owned by Lilith in the AU and his relationship with Rosie is exactly like in S1: genuine and comfortable. I’m sorry but I’m not letting Vic’s awful plot direction here ruin one of the few good relationships in the show.

And I’m sorry if any of this is exaggerated by accident, I’m just, er, very passionate about minorities being disrespected this badly and this is kinda just me dumping my thoughts and rage into writing /gen

On a small but light note, the other clip is actually really cool!! Makes sense for Heaven to have Goitia as well as Hell, and as long as this bird doesn’t turn out Stolas then I’m pretty happy with this :D

[bump-inthe-night]

Sir Pentious' sin is refusing to report Jake the Ripper to the police, and it's such a stupid reason for him to be in Hell. In the Hazbin Hotel pilot, he was causing destruction and killing sinners to gain power and territory.

Sir Pentious could've been an envious and greedy man who was sabotaging his rivals so he could stay as the top inventor. Factories were built to mass produce his inventions, resulting in environmental pollution and people becoming sick and dying. However, Sir Pentious didn't care because all that mattered was being #1 and making sure no one else could take his place.

Vivziepop could've made Sir Pentious' sin far more interesting and fitting for his character but chose to take the lamest route possible.

[hazshit-hotel-hater]

How are we feeling about the new S2 leak.

tbh i prefer this a lot more because it shows that vivzie isnt just taking every single fan theory. also im biased because lilith is boring to me and having her focus be on being alastors contractor would deprive her from her already existing plotline. the way theyve portrayed this is odd though. i know this will stay an unpopular opinion of mine but its literally just a lot better to me because i never really expected it to be lilith and if it was her i was going to be pissed because its so expected and i could tell vivzie was either being a dumbass again or she was actually trying to do something unexpected so i hope it was the second and i was right and thankfully i was right. idk what theyre going to do now with the rosie plotline and like yeah it might mess with my rewrite but atp if they do it shit vivzie is writing her own grave and its not my problem. also rosie is my favourite character writing wise because she isnt HORRID everytime shes on screen so i at least have moderate hopes for it. and again, i dont like popular fan theories becoming true just because theyre popular and lilith can focus more on her family plotline instead of some shit with alastor and it leaves more space for them to do their own shit. as for why theyre shown to be friendly im not sure but maybe there'll be a good explination or at least a passable one. with the rosie antisemetism controversy stuff im sure thisll make rounds of some kind

[devdirt]

Hazbin Hotel Spoilers!! My thoughts on the VAs, and where I go from here.

I'm only going to say a couple of things about the first episode. The voices are bad.

I think Charlie is the only consistently good one and Alastor does sound better with the voice filter on. I think Niffty is okay, I will always prefer the pilot VA. But...listen.

I don't want to be mean about Blake. I'm sure he's talented. But his delivery as Angel is really, really bad. I don't mean in a "bitch about the show haha" bad, I mean it is just painful to listen to. His delivery is not natural, the accent sounds so forced and the tone is grating. He sounds like he belongs in a cringe fandub, not an official production.

Vaggie sounds incredibly dead. I think Stephanie could really work in this role but it sounds like the voice direction is keeping her from emoting half the time. Her register is too low and too plain to give any kind of meaningful performance. She has done low register characters before and knocked it out of the park so that's why I believe this was a mistake on direction's part. She's talented, let her showcase it.

Husk, it doesn't fit. Keith David is talented as FUCK and his delivery is good! But this was a miscast. The original VA was great because he had that jaded old man sound to him, a disgruntled quality that accompanied his character.

Adam...god shut up. I don't know if it's the fact that his song is paced all weird and the dialogue doesn't flow, or that his dialogue is just GOD AWFUL but I can't listen to this man speak. He sounds like he's overacting on stage in every single line, there is no time to breathe between his sentences.

And my wife Katie Killjoy? It's just fucking Blitz. There is no humor in having her sound like this, and the performance has none of the flair as the original pilot VA. It sounds like when a cartoon gets an obvious celebrity who doesn't fit the show because they just wanted to get that person on for an episode.

So yeah. The songs were mid, the jokes weren't funny, and Angel saying "this body was meant to be exploited" was just...yeah.

I'm sorry to the entire pilot cast, I'm sorry you were all replaced when you ARE these characters. A character is their voice, and you all poured your hearts and souls into your performances to make Viv's creations come to life. I don't think she deserved any of you. This is a disappointment for animation at worst and a bad vanity project at best.

I will not be watching any more full episodes.

[so-this-is-hell]

Ok I watched the leaked episodes

Let’s start with the positives! I love positives!

- Alex Brightman put his whole Alexussy into this shit oh my god, Pentious and Adam actually sound really good. Adam singing is also really really good. Alex can sing in character and carry things well and I’m glad now he’s part of the project. Because at least it’ll be bearable if I see the other episodes.

-Vox is actually weirdly really compelling? Like I actually ended up enjoying the vibe he’s got and his own voice grew on me, I know it’s not what people wanted but it works well.

-Nifty’s voice is pretty ok, so is Charlie’s. They’re some of the better voices of the cast, Alastor’s performance was uh. It wasn’t bad so there’s that!

-the opening exposition was needed but also a bit hamfisted- wait shit the positives- uh, I love the direction it went? Art wise?

-the songs are pretty good, they get you from point A to point B, and at least wasn’t Poison levels of cringe in writing.

-Charlie actually helping Pentious in episode 2 try to repent and be a better person actually feels nice, like a crumb of what the show should of be-

…

Ok let’s get to the point.

-the episodes clearly are trying to shove as much of the plot as humanly possible, to the point that you get whiplash.

-Angel Dust, Vaggie, Valentino, Husk all have voices that either do not fit, crack from the pressure to perform, or are trying so hard to mimic the previous voice that it’s actually worrying. The Angel dust one in particular I’ll get to when I get to the point.

-The plot starts with the main antagonist, literally telling Charlie that her plan is pointless and she should give up. There’s no actual “I want” song to counter this, unless you count the song where Adam mocks her for trying and tells her the exterminations will happen twice a year now.

-Pentious at least wasn’t a creep like i was fearing in the script, but he comes off too pathetic? Like I know he was pathetic and that’s the point but why the fuck does he want to be equal to the Vees now? Didn’t he want to rule over hell himself? I know the instagram had him crop himself into pictures with the Vees but remember those aren’t canon!

-I realized I was able to hop in because I had Wikipedia level knowledge of these characters to the point they click in my head (and enough to where Alastor, Charlie, Vaggie and Husk all felt a little off but that’s neither here nor there). But god I cannot imagine being a new person trying to jump into this show, this is bad. None of the characters get actually introduced outside of Charlie, the show references the pilot which isn’t part of the show so new audiences have no idea what they’re talking about, and the staff gets actually introduced in episode 2. EPISODE 2, TO PENTIOUS!? GIRLIE POP HAVE HIM COME EPISODE 1 THEN?

-Animation that’s either too floaty, too janky, too stiff or straight up traced. Which I don’t blame the animators for, Mammon was busy buying 10,000 dollars worth of peacocks to bother paying them more than a dollar per frame. There’s no charm here.

-Where did the fucking cat key come from? No I’m serious. Where did it come from? It just kinda exists now.

-Alastor’s commercial is just straight up MEAN and he’s often more mean than chaotic, which I know is ironic since he wasn’t a good person and I wasn’t expecting him to be but it’s to a point where it’s not even fun mean. He literally called Charlie’s endeavor “Daddy issues”. It felt like he was just there to slap Charlie in the face.

-Angel Dust rant is gonna be so long that I saved it for last.

I have to put it under the read more because of talk of SA! Fun!

Ok.

I’m saying this as someone who loved him from the pilot and was willing to excuse his behavior as “flaws he can work on” since Addict and everything else proved that there was more under the surface and he was a character that could change and grow and-

…

…

Angel dust, the rape victim… the guy running away from his abuser…

The Angel dust who has traumatic episodes so fucking graphic that he flashes back to them when he’s performing.

Saying “yeah no, fucking sexually exploit me! It turns me on!”

Viv, I know you’re not reading this but I mean this genuinely.

Fuck you.

As someone who’s family has experienced sexual abuse, as someone who’s family still has CPTSD because men in power decide to exploit them… how fuckin dare you make a character enjoy their own exploitation.

This isn’t me kink shaming a sexual character! He can be sexual and like sex! It’s never been the problem and hell it could of been liberation to have sex he deserves.

But no.

Let’s make the SA victim into the sexual harassment character, let’s make the SA victim the Stolas of the show where he wears down his love interest so thin that they have to give up.

Let’s make the SA victim still work under his shitty abuser, and make that into a joke as the abuser mentions wanting to rape everyone in the hotel.

Don’t pay to watch this show, I mean it.

Pirate it.

Hell don’t even watch it, find something better to watch. I’ve been binging anime as of late and I still like captain lazerhawk.

[correlance]

'Hazbin Hotel' production leak: Sir Pentious originally had a crush on Rosie

Someone posted an alleged Hazbin Hotel leak from early in production (i.e. storyboarding), which shows that Episode 7 ("Hello Rosie!") originally focused on Charlie, Mimzy, and Niffty helping Sir Pentious to win the affections of Rosie, his "hellish crush". This means that the show was drastically changed during the production phase.

Sir Pentious originally had a crush on Rosie, but this was changed to Cherri Bomb sometime during production, presumably to try and find a way to not cut Cherri Bomb entirely from Season 1 after the pilot.

[davekat-sucks]

People that upset over the latest season 2 Hazbin Hotel leaks? They should know Vivziepop did this on purpose. Trying to pull an Alex Hirsch of making fake leaks and posting it on 4chan. Just like she did for Ghostfuckers. She had the actors record scenes and fake songs to purposely trick us.

"""""""""""""Isn't she just a 555D Chess Player Mastermind?""""""""

[chaifootsteps]

We've got a Sir Pentious backstory! Spoiler alert, it's stupid.

Pentious was basically Twilight Sparkle, a friendless little nerd who immersed himself in his inventions and watched life go by from his window because it gave him the illusion he was close to people.

He watched Jack the Ripper kill a woman from his window and did nothing because the guy was a powerful client.

The guilt is why he's in Hell and why he had to save his """friends""" and Cherri, because he couldn't stand by again and do nothing.

His name was Pendleton.

[bump-inthe-night]

Alastor's human design has black features, but he has none in his demon form. He was initially white, but Vivziepop made him black to try and justify her inappropriate usage of Voodoo. Of course, she could've redesigned his demon form but refused to.

What makes this situation worse is how Alastor, a black man, is a slave to Rosie, a white Jewish woman. She speaks about how she can make him "sit, roll over, and fetch" and that he's in her "zoo." In the 20th century, black people were used as live entertainment in human zoos, making Rosie's lyrics extremely racist.

Vivziepop is handling Alastor's character in a racist way, but I highly doubt she's going to change anything about him.

[devdirt]

In light of the....incredible Hazbin leaks I feel compelled to shill my own content.

In my comic Lucifer and Lilith are t4t and they're deeply in love.

Lucifer has had issues being power hungry in the past, Lilith has had problems confronting negativity in a healthy way, and the two of them have made it work and gotten through some of the roughest patches for each other, their children and themselves. And God damn do I love them.

If the leaks end up being true I won't be disappointed. Like I said, I gave up on wanting Hazbin to be good ages ago. I just think it'll be amusing if Lucifer really is another Stolas. Just two twinkish soft dumb idiots who can never do anything wrong because their wife was being a meanie to them.

[xxduncandonutxx]

Also warning, Chaifootsteps is leaking Hazbin Hotel premiere stuff just as what is happening in the episodes.. my advice is to NOT go on their page if ya don't wanna be spoiled.

Just should've added a spoiler warning or do something like this

That way HH and HB fans can avoided any spoilers or put a 'Hazbin hotel spoiler' tag in the tags section, because not everyone is gonna have these as their censored tag thing or whatever it's called /gen

[cheesecakemermaid1048]

I couldnt resist

[lili-the-cartoon]

I’m actually going insane after watching five (what I thought were fan animations) hazbin hotel videos only to find out five minutes later they were leaks…the whole season was leaked…there goes all my fun! Still watching the show tho