#greenland dogs

[wolfslayer]

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[thehmn]

Depending on who you ask Santa lives in the North Pole, Finland, Greenland and probably some other places and I personally really like the idea of there being more than one Santa who all handle Christmas a bit differently but I’ve never met anyone else who does.

I’m just very invested in the idea that Greenland Santa use magical sledge dogs instead of reindeer okay

[dogfancier]

"Amundsen's Pet Dog Oolik." - Likely Ole, son of Silla, one of the Greenland dogs Roald Amundsen brought on the first successful expedition to sail the Northwest Passage in 1903-06. Photographed in Nome, Alaska. Published 1913.

[multyashka-sweet]

Freya

[fjordfolk]

"Obersten" was a lead of the teams of Greenland dogs that took Roald Amundsen and his companions to the South Pole in 1911. He's easily recognizable in photos due to having damaged his ear in a fight with another dog during their stay in Antarctica.

Amundsen's expedition was a right massacre in terms of dogs. Out of the over 100 that were present on Fram, and out of the 52 that left Framheim for the Pole, only 3 dogs returned to Norway and Obersten was the only to have made it all the way. Most of the others were killed for food, some died of sickness on the return trip, and some were sold on to other expeditions.

Obersten's survival and return was, in addition to his hardiness and strength of character, due to his bond with fellow polar explorer Oscar Wisting. He's said to have stood out as particularly willfull and stubborn from the very start of the expedition, and upon retirement, he spent the rest of his life as Wisting's family dog. As the story goes, the family's youngest son and some friends decided one winter day to have Obersten pull a sled in a makeshift dog race - but once their plans became known, Oscar ran out 'in only his shirt' to put an end to their shenanigans (to everyone's great disappointment - including the dog, probably) saying something to the effect of "this dog has pulled far too much for much too far in his life, and should never have to pull another gramme."

[despazito]

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[darkwood-sleddog]

Hi,

do you know if Canadian Eskimo Dogs and Greenland Dogs have same sex aggression towards members of their pack in a similar way as Alaskan Malamutes?

Same-Sex Aggression is not a Malamute specific trait and is present in many breeds such as GSD, many bully breeds, terriers, etc., although is quite common amongst primitive dog breeds.

The standards of all three dogs (Malamute, Canadian Inuit Dogs, and Greenland Dogs) mention their friendliness with people, but don't elaborate very far on their attitudes towards other dogs. The Canadian Inuit (Eskimo) Dog standard mentions that they are pack oriented which is very true, but also mentions their desire to fight and battle torn ears are allowable in their standard. Historical dog sledding accounts describe these dogs desire and enjoyment of fighting. Additionally, both the Greenland and the Canadian Inuit Dog are known to be more intense, and more energetic than malamutes. When you get one of these three breeds you must be prepared to potentially deal with same-sex aggression. It is genetic, so there's no training away from it, but in my opinion it can be managed quite easily.

It's common, not only because it is a common primitive dog trait, but because a vast majority of adult dogs are not 100% dog friendly. Many are dog tolerant at best while most adult dogs would be considered "Dog Selective" meaning they enjoy a few individual dogs, but could do without the others. Like this scale of general dog aggression, same-sex aggression is a sliding scale from mild to quite intense, with most dogs being in the middle. A squabble between my two males in the same pack is intense to witness, but the dogs barely touch each other, they've never drawn blood, while if my female were to get into it with a strange female she is likely to go for the jugular.

One thing I will mention is that with the primitive dog in a modern environment they are often interacting with other strange dogs that are not raised in a pack environment who thus have a poor understanding of intra-dog communication and language. Dogs who are raised with a related family pack of dogs act so much differently than those raised without. Intra-dog communication is often more subtle and I personally find my dogs raised in family pack environments value politeness. Bold, overly rude behavior as is present in many solo-raised modern dogs is not desirable to them, is considered very rude, and is therefore something to be corrected which can sometimes exhibit as aggression. To them, it is puppy behavior gone unchecked in a mature dog, like an asshole who gets in your face for no reason as if they've never been taught manners. I mean, I would react quite poorly if some random stranger came running up to me and got in MY face, so I don't fault my dogs for this behavior.

[yorkiegregg]

“Sled Dog puppies” feasting on a deceased Whale calf, photographed in Kulusuk Southeastern Greenland - taken from Clemens Stockner on Wikimedia Commons.

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edward gow

[kangals]

What's your thoughts on American Indian dogs? (This is a picture of 2 of them that came into the pet supply store I used to work at).

im gonna be honest, i know they exist but not much beyond that - they're not a breed i find particularly interesting, so i haven't looked into them. are these the same things as native american indian dogs, or are those different? there's sooo many of these generic-husky-shepherdy-wolfy projects that i can never remember what is what. but at least with NAIDs i'm pretty sure i remember some bullshit going around recently with a breeder(s?) claiming their dogs had no wolf content when they actually had a significant amount, which is, uh, wildly unethical.

i'm also innately distrustful of any sort of 'historic breed recreation' like this because they tend to be a very... almost fetishistic sort of project. especially considering this is supposed to be a recreation of the dogs that lived with native americans and first nations. are native people actually involved in this project and helping with guidance and direction? or is this just yet another case of Dog People deciding that a historic, landrace breed should Actually Look Like This and ignoring their place of origin? are we actually studying the historic dogs and using the modern american village dogs and rez dogs that still exist today as our founders? or are we just mashing wolfy-looking breeds together because wolves = majestic = totally native american?

idk man i'd love to be proven wrong here, so if someone can refute this and show me that this is a project sanctioned by actual native peoples and with a concise goal in mind, cool. but my surface impression has been more or less that it's Dog People playing dress-up with wolfy-looking dogs under the guise of claiming it's a breed recreation.

[davidstanleytravel]

Ilulissat, Greenland, is said to have almost as many sled dogs as people.

[tentacion3099]

Danish soldier from the Sirius Dog Sled Patrol on Greenland with a Greenlandic sled dog

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[dogfancier]

Helge Ingstad with Greenland dogs Suggen and Storm, carrying packs. Photographed on Greenland, 1932 or 1933.

[multyashka-sweet]

Freya Commission for foxjump

[fjordfolk]

sled doggos