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I love the idea of all the robins kinda being clones of each other with just a few differences and a concussed Bruce not being able to tell who he’s squinting at so he just says generic statements and avoids saying any names
Bruce (sitting at the breakfast table): so… how’s the weather… dick?
Jason (grinning): you do know I’m gonna hold this against you for like, the next 2 months right
Bruce: (groans into his hands)
Bruce (walking into the living room): hey have you read through the files I gave you yesterday?
Dick: (confused cause he took a day off to surprise Bruce) ?
Bruce: so?
Dick: er… no?
Bruce: Dick?? What are you doing here?
Bruce (walks into the kitchen with a fresh concussion): Jason? I thought you were on a mission with the outlaws?
Tim: (frozen through mid fridge raid, having assumed they were past Bruce calling him Jason since yk. He’s a shit brickhouse now and Tim is, well, obviously not): uh?
Bruce: *turns around and leaves*
Bruce: Oh hey Cass, when did you arrive from Babs’?
Damian: (slowly turns around in the black hoodie he’s wearing) we’re not even the same gender
Bruce: (under his breath) yeah but the same height
#batman#dc comics#dcu#batfam#dc robin#jason todd#batfamily#bruce wayne#dick grayson#nightwing#cassandra cain#batgirl#orphan#red hood#Tim Drake#red Robin#damian wayne#Robin#Bruce Wayne is a good father#but a perpetually confused one#read that tag on a fic once and haven’t forgotten it since#honestly bruce is the embodiment of your mom calling all of your siblings’ names before yours while trying to call for you#the batkids never let him live it down#they actually start calling each other by different names just to confuse him further#he draws the line when he hears dick referring to Jason as Cassandra
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And people say Jason doesn’t think of Tim as his brother smh
#He says it right there!#What preceded it is irrelevant#they’re brothers your honor#dc comics#batfam#jason todd#tim drake#Comic is Task Force Z issue 8#this goes out to all the JayTim shippers that don't think it counts as incest#Epitome of sibling behavior too#My sister once launched me off the top bunk and nearly broke my ankle because I was too scared to jump#I was five but it ended up being a bad sprain so it’s all good
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Dick and Tim sibling shenanigans, breathe my way and ill draw Jason.
Richard Grayson, my dearest oldest sibling, they could never make me hate you
#I will die before thinking Bruce Wayne is not a good father#I know Dick tried to teach circus routines to Tim you will never convince me otherwise#they are siblings your honor#they are so silly#dick grayson#nightwing#robin#tim drake#batman#batfamily#batsiblings#red robin#my art
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The Stand-in Job
Danny loved his job. It was an easy on call job he got rather on accident. But it paid well and gave him enough time to deal with ghost matters outside of scheduled work hours.
Though now he got stuck in a situation his Boss had not provided him with a script and or explanation how to behave for.
Danny was a simple Stand-in. Sort of like a Stuntman kind of job. His boss was paying him to simple take his place during public appearances, or meetings with no big decision he has to sit through just to listen. Or on the easiest of days, to just sit in his boss office so it appears that someone is there while his boss was doing who knows what. Danny doesn't question, that's why his boss liked him.
But again, no where in his contract was described how he was supposed to handle this situation. So now he was stuck having beat up a couple of wannabe kidnappers and some vigilantes talking to him all casually going on and on how 'Tim', his boss, wasn't supposed to do that to not risk his public image. Should he record this as evidence for his Boss? It sounded like these vigilantes were spilling some of his boss' secrets that shouldn't be known to the public.
Tim just needed someone to sit in his place to make it appear like he was there when he had cases to work through. Danny was the perfect hire for it and Tim liked very much that Danny doesn't ask questions, like he understood. Yet when Danny sent him a text questioning how he should behave as Stand-in in front of Gotham's vigilantes.... Tim wasn't sure if he should feel offended or highly amused about his siblings not realizing that the one kidnapped in public hadn't been Tim but his Stand-in Danny.
#danny fenton#dp x dc#danny phantom#dpxdc#crossover#dcxdp#tim drake#Danny is Tim's Stand-in#they look a lot alike thats why it works#for danny its an easy job#for tim itvgives him the time he needs extra to work on cases#his siblings appear to not realize that at forst#and end up lecturing Danny 'Tim' about not waiting for them to rescue him#danny just saw wannabe kidnappers and with his history beat them up good#random late night thoughts#random early morning thoughts#random idea#sleep avoids me these days...
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So in Spirit World there's two separate panels that show Cass' family/loved ones. The first I think is more circulated:
The second is this one:
These line-ups are probably different due to space/convenience, but to overanalyse these panels for a bit, it's interesting who's present in which. Bruce, Steph, and Babs are present in both - makes sense, they're the most important figures in Cass' life. Steph is front and center in both, suggesting she really is Cass' favourite person ever.
Bruce is relatively big in the top panel, but much smaller in the bottom. The top panel explicitly is about "family," while the bottom is about people who "know and love you". Bruce becoming smaller suggests that Cass thinks of him as her dad, but the 'knowing' and 'loving' part isn't as secure for her. (This is probably not intentional but reflects their dynamic very well, particularly post-Cass being sent to HK and her unresolved feelings about that).
Babs is pretty big in both, and I love that she's Oracle here (the wheelchair in the bottom panel!!). This makes total sense - the time when Babs loved and cared for her most was when she was Oracle. Cass probably still sees and remembers her that way.
Onto the interesting stuff, which is Duke being missing for 'family' but present for 'know and love you'. I think he should be in the top panel, but maybe he's too new for Cass to consider him family? Everyone in the top panel is from the bg 2000 era, so Cass might think of that time as her true 'family'. Anyway, the fact he makes it into the bottom still shows they're close, and that Cass considers him someone who understands/'knows' her.
Dick and Tim being present for 'family' and missing for 'know and love you' is so fun. Tim maybe should be present in the bottom, but recent canon hasn't made them as close as they used to be (in BG 2000 and Red Robin). So they love each other, but not to the extent of anyone in the bottom panel; he's still definitively family though.
Dick is the same, but there's a lot more sibling rivalry and complicated feelings there. It makes total sense for Cass to see him as a brother, but to not think he 'knows' or 'loves' her all that much; they do get along, but I think they remember their mistakes with each other and think the other person still holds a grudge (they don't). Peak Dick-Cass dynamic to me!
So if I had to rank Cass' favourite people in the Batfam according to these panels, it'd be: 1. Steph 2. Babs 3. Bruce 4. Tim and/or Duke 5. Dick
#cassandra cain#spirit world#stephanie brown#barbara gordon#bruce wayne#tim drake#duke thomas#dick grayson#rip damian and jason but it was correct for you guys not to be there#people thinking dick and cass hate each other... like yes but in the sibling way not in the real way they would die for each other!!#too much dick and cass discourse on here recently spirit world set them straight#steph front and center in both oh stephcass you will always be famous#alyssa wong clearly loves bg 2000 maybe that's the recipe for good stories#read spirit world!! the art is amazing and you get to see the world's coolest magician Xanthe Zhou <333
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There's something about Tim that has always slightly unnerved Bruce.
That's not to say he doesn't truly love him, the little Robin who dragged him kicking and screaming from the edge, who reminds him everyday he has to be better.
Yet something in his eyes always makes him hesitate.
Watching him solve cases connect dots that even Bruce at his most able couldn't hope to understand.
Watching him fight it's calculated every move planned but executed with a grace that would make ballerinas jealous.
He couldn't identify it the greatest detective stumped by his own son until one day when he walked down to the cave.
His eldest sparing with Tim it was beautiful moves that he could never replicate they worked as if they were one. Escrima quickly blocked by a bow staff, every single move perfectly executed.
It felt like for once he could see clearly the thing that had made him so uncomfortable brought forth a fear that was so instinctual.
It was Dick.
The same moves, the quiet grace the deadly motions, even the anger.
A perfect copy a clone couldn't even hope to achieve.
He stays so still almost frozen afraid to catch the predators attention.
As Tim ends it heading to the showers his eyes drift meeting Dick's.
A smile that before he would call kind he can't help but see almost a sadistic undertone like a animal playing with it's food.
He breaks first, hair standing on end as he heads back up into the manor.
He should do something, but he can't whatever monsters that are his sons he decides to turn a blind eye.
To let the tigers play he knows he is beaten that if he were to try anything his blood would stain his eldest's chin.
But a darker deeper part of Bruce recognizes the same look he ignores in the mirror.
The look that both Jason and Damian try so hard to replicate.
He has never consciously favored his children but as he erases contingencies and allows full access to a network he had never shared with anyone before he can't help but feel a tide changing.
Sitting the next morning at the table secrets smiles shared between him and his sons. Jealously crossing theirs brothers eyes he wants to cackle, scream but it's time he returns the loyalty that they have bled.
After all what's some secrets between Kings and crowned princes.
#tim drake#bruce wayne#dick grayson#batfamily#to put it simply both Bruce Dick and Tim are not good people they're angry vindictive they are tigers laying in wait for their prey#Jason and Damian are not a part of the secret circle they never will be. There's a difference between good little boys and princes#Jason and Damian wish they were nearly as horrible as their siblings#Good dad Bruce in this case at least#Who doesn't love some good brotherly bonding between Dick Grayson and Timothy Drake let the boys take over the world and let their dad help#dark batfamily#jason todd#damian wayne#batfam#don't worry Damien and Jason are safe at least for now#bamf tim drake#bamf dick grayson
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Damian: Do not call me baby brother.
Tim: If I'm not the baby brother anymore is because of you so shut up.
Jason, to Dick: You never called me baby brother...
Dick: I didn't even want you to be alive, Jay.
#dick wanted siblings#until he didn't#BABY BROTHER DAMIAN WAYNE#good brother tim drake#tim drake#jason todd#damian wayne#dick grayson#batfamily#robin#dc#red robin#batman#batfam#dcu#headcanon#incorrect batfamily quotes#incorrect quotes#incorrect batfam quotes#batbrothers#batsiblings#red hood#nightwing
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The "You don't have to forgive people even if they're family" sentiment leaving people's bodies the moment it's about siblings:
#bnha#batman#dc#atla#avatar the last airbender#azula#zuko#jason todd#dick grayson#tim drake#damian wayne#dabi#todoroki touya#todoroki shouto#saiki k#saiki kusuo#saiki kusuke#understanding your sibling is also struggling and from the same toxic environment as you IS good#it does not mean you have to forgive the shit they've put you through#if your sibling's shitty you're allowed to cut them off and not forgive them and hate them#i love sibling relations in media but it's hell when you have actual serious issues with yours bc all ppl can say is#'oh that's just how siblings are they fight then they get over it the bond is so strong you should just forgive them'#like shut uppp
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It’s my headcanon that when Bernard is upset with Tim, he goes to the Wayne family to compose a petty little PowerPoint like “Proof that Tim Drake Wayne Hates the Lower Class” with Duke, Steph, and Jason as sources.
#he’ll even get Damian involved if he’s pissed enough and does a side by side comparison#this is the only time Damian is nice to his siblings on camera#it’s all in good fun though#I miss tim and Bernard a bit#tim drake#red robin#bernard dowd#timbern#duke thomas#the signal#stephanie brown#batgirl#spoiler#jason todd#red hood#damian wayne#robin
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Tim and Jason bonding
*Tim and Jason both sitting on the couch not talking*
Jason: Alright, this has been a total blast but I gotta head out *stands up before immediately being pulled back into his seat*
Jason: Tim?
Tim: Yes, Jason?
Jason: you’re holding my hand
Tim: No, I’m not
Jason: yes you are *raises his hand to show that Tim had interlocked their fingers*
Tim: oh
Jason: well you’re going to have to let go
Tim: okay
Jason: Tim?
Tim: yes, Jason?
Jason: you’re still holding my hand
Tim: I have no idea what you are talking about
Jason: I guess I’m just gonna have to chop my hand off
Tim: or you can just stay here
Jason: fine…d’you wanna watch a movie
Tim: can we watch the hobbit?
Jason, mockingly: ‘can we watch the hobbit’ of fucking course we can.
*turns on the hobbit as Tim cuddles closer to him*
#writing#tim and jason#jason todd#tim drake is a menace#tim drake#dialogue prompt#batfam#platonic#good sibling jason todd#batman#fic rec
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So lately I’ve seen several people say it’s “wrong” or “weird” to ship TimSteph now(multiple people using the excuse that they “act like siblings” which…ew) and I was just ignoring it until I saw some truly beautiful fanart of the ship only to see half a dozen comments attacking the artist for their preference of OTP. An OTP that was cannon for like over a decade mind you.
anyway I am now no longer a casual shipper and it is now my personal mission to insinuate that Tim and Stephanie are a couple as much as humanly possible
I’m not an artist but here’s some quick silly fanart I did of them based off a free pose reference I found
#Like if you wanna headcannon them as siblings you can but don’t act like it’s suddenly weird to ship them#Stephanie is a part of the BATfamily not the WAYNEfamily#Which is a good thing because that would make Tim a sister kisser#Just because they’re no longer cannon doesn’t mean we can’t ship them?? Like are you new here??#tim drake#timsteph#dc comics#batfam#stephanie brown#You can pry this ship from my cold dead hands
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I think the funniest thing about how the Fandom perceives Tim (especially obnoxious Tim fans) is that he is was deeply hurt by the actions Jason, Damian, and Dick have done to him, but lowkey that’s just the fandom projecting
Tim lowkey did not give a fuck. Maybe a little at first, but he definitely does not hold a grudge against any of them.
#Tim Drake#unhinged tim drake#like will Tim eternally hate you if you take a sip from his Soda? yes#but attempted murder… he can get over that#Damian and Jason were just having a really bad time#(looks at that one panel where Tim forgives Jason for being an asshole supreme)#and he can admit that Dick was under a lot of stress during the time Bruce was lost in the time stream#angst is fun though#so I don’t BLAME Tim fans for it#just sometimes it’s annoying because Dick is a really good older brother and doesn’t deserve the hate for handing off a mantle he created#and Damian was a child who only grew up knowing that violence was the only way you can earn your place#and it’s shown in multiple panels that Tim understands that#Tim was literally snarking while Jason beat him up at Titans Tower#(honestly that was most accurate sibling portrayal in media… so…)#I say that as a younger sibling who has had so many injuries from my sister beating the crap outa me#and my younger brother emotionally decimates me on a daily basis#really#certain Tim fans just make him a wimp
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(Theoretical possible endgame)
“And how, exactly, did you all make it back here?” Bruce asks his children (children, not even all of them according to the Robins—Robins, that’s another thing that Bruce is going to blame his oncoming headache on. What were any of his future selves thinking?)
“A blood ritual,” Dick answers confidently.
“Alien cube,” Jason says at the same time, shrugging.
“Techno-magical chemical reaction,” Timothy says, raising his voice to be heard over the others.
“Iseki bullshit,” Stephanie & Damian say in perfect unison (as though that’s supposed to explain anything,) before turning to stare at eachother—also in perfect unison—with identical looks of shock.
(Damian’s face splits into a wide smile as he holds out one hand. Stephanie glances at it, her lips pressed into a thin line, before passing Damian a quick low-five. They both flip their hands back up in fists to rap their knuckles against eachother.
“Hell yeah,” Damian whispers, his smile somehow even brighter than before. Stephanie’s mouth twitches and she gives Damian another tap.)
“…Of course,” Bruce says in the flat tone that only Dick should know means Bruce is utterly lost & out of his depth, but which has five mischievous sets of eyes sparkling at him.
#iwctw (time travel)#Batfam#bat fam#batfamily#bat family#robins#batkids#bat kids#batsiblings#bat siblings#dick grayson#jason todd#stephanie brown#tim drake#damian wayne#bruce wayne is a good dad#Bruce Wayne is so tired#my writing#mine#Stephanie brown & damian wayne#they’re siblings your honor#(No I did NOT add that whole aside because I got very emotional over this being the first time Steph has seemed like /Steph/ to Damian.)#(The idea of looking at a version of one of the people you care about most and seeing absolutely nothing of them doesn’t haunt me at all.)#(The idea of finally finding something that proves that /are/ still themselves doesn’t fill my chest with bittersweet butterflies.)#(I don’t know what you’re talking about.)
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The lack of cursed Tim Drake stories/aus is honestly unbelievable.
He grew up in a house full of Archeological findings, mostly alone without any adult supervision.
Anyway. I have one that isn't as angsty as it could be, in which he doesn't get cursed out of maliciously, but because of kindness.
The curse was held in a wolf statue and gifted him the ability to turn into one. But only if his emotions get out of hand. Be it happiness, fear, or anger.
So he trained himself to control his emotions, as his wolf side was quite handy for his bird-watching hobby.
(He also ends up with quite the resting bitch face because of this. It also helped him a lot as Robin)
But he also needs to shift from time to time or else he'll get... a bit irrational.
Then he becomes Robin and Bruce, the best detective in the world, has no idea about his true nature.
The only people that know are Alfred, Cass, and Jason.
Alfred found out on one of his "check ins" With Tim. He used to visit him daily with an nice lunch packet to make sure he was alright and the first time he did, Tim was so surprised that he spawned tail and puppy ears.
Cass is his cuddle buddy. They are like siblings and love each other. Tim is also aware that someone must know. For case of emergency.
Jason wanted to cripple his replacement and got body checked by an overgrown puppy. Like Tim got so happy that his packmate was still alive that he couldn't control himself. The shook was enough to snap him out of the pit madness
(Jason: does dad know?
Tim: dad?
Jason: I meant Bruce.
Tim: ew. That's my boss.)
The rest of the batfamily doesn't know, but is still influenced by his ferral wild side.
Mostly Damian. Because Tim can't take this tiny Puppy seriously. He is a baby and part of his Pack. Tim also doesn't get that he is trying to murder him. He seriously thinks that Damian is initiating play fights and he, as a good big brother, indulges in it. These playfights are actually pretty good for Damian.
It helps with his murderous tendencies and it became more playing than fighting quickly.
These Play Fights help a lot with stress and anxiety for the both of them.
Dick isn't aware that they are playing. He seriously thinks that they dislike each other as if Tim wouldn't pull Damian into Bruces' bed whenever they had a bad patrol.
Also, his relationship with dick is a lot more open.
He gets that he sounded like a lunatic. He understands that Damian is the new pack puppy that needs to be watched 24/7.
But he also knows that his big brother loves him a lot and that he gives the best hugs. He loves him with all his heart and trusts him with his life.
Tim is protective of Duke. He is still new to the pack and the villigate life. That he patrols all alone gives him a lot of anxiety and he often follows him in wolf form. Duke thinks that he is a lost stray and always has some jerky for him.
The only person that Tim has a bit of a problem is Bruce. Because he is eternally torn between "this is a work relationship and he is my boss" and "Papa who gives me loving head pats". It's a real struggle for him.
#batfamily#Au#shifter au#tim wayne#tim drake#shifter tim drake#red robin#damian wayne#good sibling damian#robin damian#robin#damian al ghul#jason todd#red hood#titans towe au#dick grayson#nightwing#bruce wayne#batman
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I'll be putting the legally adopted + Damian and Alfred only because the list will be too long otherwise.
#dick grayson is tricky because on one hand he's great at playing therapist for everyone else#but when it comes to his own feelings? good lord#the rest of the siblings are bad with both theirs and others'#alfred is a hit or miss really#never forget who he raised to be the most emotionally repressed man who copes by dressing up as a bat to beat up criminals#alfred pennyworth#dick grayson#nightwing#jason todd#red hood#cassandra cain#batgirl#black bat#tim drake#red robin#damian wayne#robin#dc comics#dc#batfamily#batfam
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Brother will you believe (until my bones are dust)
Tim will always be the first.
The first bird to hold a mantle covered in the corpses of Dick's wings, the first to carve a space into his heart, to make an all consuming void that only a brother can be.
"Bruce's alive, I can prove it."
He's angry at the world at Batman. How dare he leave, making another mess for Dick to clean up. Damian a child that he barley knows, Jason angry and vying for a cowl that both know, they don't believe in.
It's been years since Dick has worn the suit he worked so hard for. Passed from Jason to Tim. Only one with his actual consent not that his consent ever seems to matter anymore.
"Grayson, when will Drake be gone? He's unneeded."
Tim is all he has the only constant the only thing he can actual lean on. His little brother who has had his throat slit by Jason, and Damian is doing his damn best to push his out. He's backed into a corner.
Choices, a constant balancing act that all the acrobatics in the world won't allow him to slip from. Selfishness is his only net and for once he isn't gonna hit the ground.
"Tim I need you, I need my brother, I need someone to watch my back. We can come back to it but for now I need to breathe."
He leans back into the smell of coffee and absolutely horrid axe body spray that every teenager seems to love and just inhaled. He can feel a knife uncomfortable against his back, and what sounds like typing but he doesn't dare move.
His net curled around him and for once the world is quiet. Jason, Damian, and Bruce can come later.
For now it's Tim and Dick Grayson and he can feel the air.
#tim and dick#character study ish#Tim loves his big brother#dick love his little brother#tim drake#dick grayson#jason todd#batfamily#damian wayne#bruce wayne#protective dick#dick Grayson is sad#dick needs a hug he gets one it's from Tim#Bamf Tim drake don't worry he will fix dicks issues that's why he's typing#batman#bamf tim drake#batfam#bamf batfamily#good sibling nightwing
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