#good omens series 1

[iamnotcreativeijustplayitontv]

Another quick Crowley thought post

Something I think about probably way too often is when Crowley and Aziraphale are on the bus in S 1 E 1 ('In the Beginning'), I believe after reporting to their head offices, and Crowley says a gentle, extra soft "Yeah?" when Aziraphale says Crowley's name. Like I get that in general they were trying to not be overheard and would therefore be speaking softly, but something about the way Crowley said it seemed different. It was like the way someone talks to someone they love, not just two people (in this case, celestial beings) who happen to know each other. Has anyone else noticed this? Am I just imagining things?

My apologies if this has been discussed and I've just missed it.

[amy-love5]

Aziraphale & Crowley Dance

Fun Fact: Aziraphale learned the dance Gavotte (this is mentioned in season one).

The final step of Gavotte is to kiss your partner. This explains why Aziraphale was upset when the Gavotte went out of fashion. I imagine he learnt it in the hopes that one day he might convince Crowley to dance it with him. But by the time he was brave enough to ask Crowley to come to the club, he couldn't because nobody danced it anymore.

Aziraphale had waited over a hundred years, waiting for the right opportunity, to ask Crowley to dance with him.

[penig]

a question of power, Pt 1

"Hastur was a Duke of Hell. Crowley wasn't even a local counsellor." Good Omens, the Book, 1990, p. 186 of my (apparently 1st edition, 1st printing, sweet; too bad the dust jacket's so torn up) hardback copy.

This is probably the only definitive statement concerning Crowley and Aziraphale's power levels we will ever get. Between Gaiman and Pratchett's cavalier attitude toward worldbuilding and the ineffable accounting of supernatural powers that human minds can't properly conceive, we're on our own quantifying this stuff. Certainly anything we figure out now may be confirmed or contradicted or cast in an entirely new light when we finally have the entire story in front of us.

Will this stop us from trying before we get all the data in hand? No, of course not.

Personally, I only care insofar as it relates to characterization, but to some people it matters a lot. And Crowley looks a lot more powerful than a local counsellor, on the face of it, in the video adaptation. (Which is where the "Crowley was Raphael" headcanon comes from. Personally, I despise that headcanon, but you do you.) Whereas Aziraphale often comes across as barely powerful at all, and reluctant to use what power he has.

This is unsatisfactory for those of us who want equality between partners. And we want to be satisfied with the story, don't we? So let's look at what we've got and examine the ways we can justify seeing them as equals, and where that gets us.

First, and most obviously: Crowley can stop time. That seems really powerful, and we don't see anyone else do it - which doesn't mean nobody else can. The way we see it used, however, implies that it's not something other angels and demons are accustomed to. Crowley stops time as Satan comes up through the ground, even though Satan is presumably more powerful than he and Aziraphale put together by several factors. So either he expects Satan not to notice it's happening, or he expects the effect to stop when Satan notices and acts to end it. Crowley also stops time when they swap bodies and checks to see whether anyone's looking, the implication being that it's not a showy power, that unless someone in the know is looking straight at the phenomenon, they aren't likely to notice it.

What if stopping time is a specialist skill? What if it's a power routinely used only by starmakers? In fact -

In the S2E1 teaser, we see Crowley crank up the new nebula to start it running. What if what he's doing there is not just powering the nebula itself, but initiating time in that area of space, to give all the processes the room they need to happen? What if that's his role, or part of his role, among starmakers - not building stars, directly, but starting time for them, or switching them over from the outside-of-time angelic workshop to the material plane where time runs? What if he's one of the few angels ever made who ever learned that skill? And what if, being the curious heedless little bugger he is, he extrapolated from that skill and taught himself how to do the reverse, and stop time in a localized area?

That's a lot of what ifs, but it would also explain a lot, reasonably parsimoniously, including the question of why nobody else is hanging around the nebula ready to hold the scroll for him and he has to call in Aziraphale to lend a hand. Everybody else had finished up their part of the job, and gone home. I am open to other suggestions, but I quite like this one.

Second, in the second series he easily accesses a file which should only be available to thrones, dominions, or above. When the archivist goggles at him he shrugs it off - he used to work with those guys, and they never change their passwords. But why did he have their passwords? Was he their supervisor? Was he a higher rank and security clearance? This, and Saroquel's recognition of him, are the best evidence the Raphael people have gotten to date.

Okay, sure if that floats your boat - but I've worked in a lot of offices. I've never had a supervisor who was any good at system security (or the work itself, not the work I was doing). Even when I was temping, I generally knew more passwords than the boss did. In my offices, the person who knew all the passwords was the snoopy little clerk who a) had legitimate reasons to get into everybody's workstations, b) read over people's shoulders, and c) liked to know what was going on and be one up on everybody else, including playing pranks on them. What's more likely, that somebody put Crowley in charge of other angels, or that his coworkers were the kinds of people who set passwords like "password" and Crowley was a nosy bastard? I rest my case.

Third, he drove the Bentley through hellfire and on to Tadfield, still burning - but we know, because God said so directly in the show, and the authors implied it in the book, that this is because Crowley had developed what, for a demon, was basically a superpower: he could imagine things, including that he and his car were getting through the fire, and shape the world with it. If we adopt the popular fanon that the Bentley is sentient and supernatural in itself (possibly as a result of prolonged contact with Crowley and Aziraphale) he even had help there. It's a power that doesn't originate with his demonic nature, but with his acclimatization to Earth.

Fourth, he can detect things that are obscure to others, including to Aziraphale. He "smells" when the hellhound finds the Antichrist. He can tell when someone's looking. He clearly has finely-honed senses. The only other character who seems able to do anything unusual with the sense of smell is (of all angels!) Sandalphon, who can "smell evil" in the bookshop, but apparently can't tell the lingering scent of a demon who sat all night in the space drinking from Jeffery Archer books. This seems more subtle than we are accustomed to think of power, and it may in fact have been developed out of relative helplessness, a skill honed by hypervigilance, rather than an innate trait. Or it could be innate and individual, or tied to the type of angel he originally was, or related to his beast aspect - we simply don't have enough information on the point.

All the other powers we see him use - shapeshifting, size change, transformation of objects, passing unnoticed, influencing living people (and plants, and rats, and cars), transportation along the telephone lines, mending his car - are things that seem to be routinely available to angels and demons of all ranks. He calls fire to sign the invoice for the Antichrist, but it's a modest amount of fire compared to what Hastur lights a cigarette with, and seems to hurt him. Driving 70 miles per hour in central London must involve superhuman reflexes and a capacity to clear people and cars out of his way. It's all treated in story, and can easily be assumed by the reader, as bog-standard demonic factory settings that anyone can do.

This is probably as long as anybody wants to read through, so I'll have to make another post about Aziraphale and the relative power levels between them.

[wandering-alien]

I just binged Good Omens for the first time and guys-

[xeno-morphius]

✨ Drawing this princess! ✨

Work in progress.

[amy-love5]

Stop, you’re giving me too many ideas.

I can only think of them all day y’know.

anyways. new personal holmes & watson ideal casting

[bl0ndwave]

I can't get over the fact how similar angel Crowley is to Eden Crowley. Before we saw angel Crowley, we didn't have the comparison and continuity, but we do now.

Just look at his hairstyle; his Eden hair is longer, as it logically should be because the angel phase was before the fall, but it's still wavy, and the swirl remains the same... 🥺

[treasoncheese]

[iamnotcreativeijustplayitontv]

Regarding Crowley - Warning: Good Omens season 1 finale and season 2 spoilers

I'm rewatching (because of course I am), and I would just like to point out that while we knew he could stop time, he stopped time and prevented SATAN from arriving, even if only temporarily. A demon prevented his master from appearing and faced seemingly no repercussions for that particular action, as if Satan had no idea it even happened. He probably could've destroyed Crowley in the blink of an eye and gone right back to Adam.

If Crowley is strong/powerful enough to even temporarily stop SATAN, what level of angel must he have been?? What level of demon must he have been at this point?? Not only can he stop time and manipulate minds/thoughts (granted, Aziraphale does plant the dream suggestion in Sister Mary Loquacious' head in S1E1), but in season/series 2, we find out that he can control and create weather and that as an angel, he created stars and galaxies and was apparently part of the group that planned gravity. Even if these are miracles, who is granting him the miracles to do these things? Correct me if I'm wrong, but we haven't seen any of the other angels or demons do any of those things. The closest I can think of is Aziraphale changing his own clothes with that of the would-be executioner in S1, and changing the color and horn of the Bentley in S2 (which Crowley can feel) and Anathema's bike in S1 after it was damaged from the collision.

[iamnotcreativeijustplayitontv]

This goes perfectly with what is probably my favorite 30 Rock quote (which of course happens to have been said by his character, Wesley Snipes): "WHY IS YOUR FACE LIKE THAT?"

[amy-love5]

Ineffable Love

Our favourite Ineffable Couple (Aziraphale & Crowley) never said “I love you” to each other. Instead, they showed their love for each other.

Actions speak louder than words.

Their love really is Ineffable “It is beyond understanding and incapable of being put into words.”

[yourangle-yuordevil]

[The Snake of Ithaca AU] The sky reminded him of home, even if he doesn't remember it

For context, Crowley was originally from Ithaca but he doesn't remember it anymore. After being cursed by Athena and losing his memories Crowley manages to flee the battlefield. Beelzebub, a paid mercenary who stayed outside of the conflict, finds Crowley while he's visibly scared and confused, and convinces him to join their group of misthios, The Legion of the Damned. Guess who else is going to be in it? :D

[metalandmagi]

It kind of just occurred to me how much the queer community is winning this summer. We had Nimona. We had Barbie (ace Barbie, Allan, just queer vibes all around). We had Good Omens season 2. We had Heartstopper season 2. We're getting High School Musical: The Musical: The Series season 4 and Red White and Royal Blue two days apart from each other. We even have The Witcher finally delivering with Jaskier (or at least it did in the first part, haven't watched part 2 yet).

I don't know where I was going with this. I'm just happy about it.

[yink07]

Are you into the Good Omens fandom?

If you are:

I'm asking you this because I'm curious about knowing what's the main age of the people from this fandom

[lineffability]

hey remember when aziraphale and crowley ran into each other in rome and aziraphale said 'well then let me tempt you to- oh, no, that's your job, isn't it, haha'? what if crowley succumbed to the temptation in more ways than one? what if they had oysters and sex about it? then what?

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