#gale dialogue

[blackjackkent]

@lavenderxpetals replied to this post:

Ooo, if you’re still interested, I recently watched https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1nUm9E3Eun4&pp=ygUTZ2FsZSByYXJlIGRpYWxvZ3VlIA%3D%3D and I was super curious as to Gale’s reactions to the other three dialogue options that appear 40 seconds in.

Sure! (Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. :O )

This conversation is part of a much more elaborate dialogue tree in a file called CAMP_Gale_CRD_ROM_BeMyGod; I haven't actually played Gale's romance yet or dug through the whole tree (which seems to reflect all possible outcomes of Gale's ambitions at this stage in his personal quest) but that name seems cute.

The line you asked about specifically is flagged to occur when:

ORI_Gale_Knows_KarsiteWeave - "Gale learned from Mystra that the orb inside him is actually the Karsite Weave"

LOW_StormshoreTabernacle_State_GaleSeeksForgiveness - "Gale goes into Mystra OOM seeking her help or forgiveness"

(I *believe* that OOM stands for "Other Origin Moment", as opposed to AOM, "Avatar Origin Moment". Avatar in this case refers to a Tav or Origin Character under the player's control, vs companion origin character. So in this case, the variable is referring to the scenario where your Tav/player character has told Gale to go in to talk to Mystra and seek forgiveness. I'm not absolutely sure about the "Other" part of OOM, or if that first O stands for something else, so if anyone has a certain answer on this I would love to hear it. :D )

Stepping into this dialogue branch:

GALE: Ah. You're still talking to me then? I wouldn't blame you for giving me a wide berth. I thought the orb's ever-present censure had tamed my wilder ambition, but that wasn't the case. I needed Mystra's intervention. She offered me a path to redemption at last, and it might yet leave my mind and body intact. Please - continue to believe in me. I want to show you the wizard I am capable of being, rather than the poor excuse for a man who's kept you company thus far.

Four options from the player:

PLAYER: I believe in you Gale. Always have, always will. GALE: That's all I ever need to hear. PLAYER: You're willing to give up the chance of unlimited power. I'd say your ambition is under control. GALE: If that's true, it's thanks to you, and the trust you show in me at every turn of this strange adventure of ours. PLAYER: I hope so, because honestly you have been a poor man recently. Especially on the romance front... GALE: I'm sorry. It's not easy living for more than just yourself, when for so long just staying alive was accomplishment enough. PLAYER: You're more to me than magic, Gale. GALE: You stole the words from my mouth.

All of this then leads around to the same node:

GALE: I know what I must do. The Crown belongs under Mystra's stewardship, not mine, and I will ensure she gets it. That means there'll be no permanent place in the heavens for us. But we could still visit.

which then leads into the rest of the boat scene. :)

[vespaer77]

There's another scene in here too, but I haven't figured out how I got it yet. I'm certain it has something to do with progress vs number of long rests taken, but I haven't figured out the magic number yet. I have consistently gotten it three times now, but didn't do a good job of keeping track of how I got there, alas =(

But after you deal with Sazza, whether or not you free her (it doesn't matter), you can get a scene where, instead of doing the whole, "I trust you enough to tell you I have a magic-eating disease," dialogue, he tells you about the Yawning Portal Inn in Waterdeep where he diffused a similar argument that involved the use of a crossbow by ordering a round of drinks.

After that, I got the "magic disease" dialogue as soon as I got past Arabella's parents and the druids into the actual heart of the grove.

hi, sorry if you're not the right person to ask about this but i've heard that there's a cutscene in camp where gale is looking at a copy of himself and then talks to you about the symptoms of ceremorphosis. i also read that you can only get this, as well as a couple of other scenes with different characters, if you haven't visited the grove yet. but i'm at the beginning of a second playthrough and am right at the point where i should be about to visit the grove, and i've never seen this gale scene even though i always keep him in my party and talk to him frequently, and do a lot of long rests so i don't miss anything. do you know if there's anything specific that needs to be done to get it to trigger, or if it's bugged in some way?

don't be sorry and yes, i can help you.

here's a quick guide on how i personally manage to reliably get all of gale's act 1 scenes (i did one for early access that still contained the deer stew scene and loss scene, which still applies overall):

1. first conversation at camp (camp scene) - recruit gale  - go to camp and do the first talk ("go to hell" convo) -> be sure to have your character selected before resting, if you accidentally selected gale or a different character before resting, the conversation sometimes will not not trigger (bug since ea) - you can also do his player-intiated conversation at this point ("are you versed in magic" convo) - rest

2. mirror image scene (camp scene)  - go to recruit lae -> it doesn’t actually matter if you recruit her or not, if you save the tieflings or fight them - go to the grove and do the fight between the goblins and aradin’s party and the tieflings - talk with zevlor and aradin -> again, it doesn’t matter if you fail any checks or what you do, it’s more about the steps than what options you pick - talk with zevlor and accept to help or not - after this rest and you should get the mirror image scene 

 3. magical artefacts convo (happens while travelling) -> approval depedent to this point/convo where gale reveals his needs for magical artefacts - save sazza, the goblin prisoner at the druid grove, by stepping in front of the crossbow (gale approves a lot here) and do gale’s ! convo -you can further net approval by picking supportive dialogue options here  4. weave scene (camp scene) - help guex, the tiefling who doesn’t know how to fight, at the grove - go and talk to arabella’s parents -> you can accept to help them or not because, again, this is more about the steps rather than any particular option - trigger kagha and arabella’s scene -> it does not matter whether you manage to save her or not -if you DO save her tho, it'll give you approval and you get an extra ! convo with gale -> the one if you failed or stood by to watch were cut and are unavailable in the full release of the game - talk to arabella’s parents again to complete the quest (komira's locket can be given to gale later during his arcane hunger convos) - if you rest, you should get the weave scene -> if not, try to see if your approval is too high or too low. you can get the weave scene either on high or very high. if you are too high you can attack gale (he disapproves) and you should loose approval with him. -> also important: you can explore the ruins or another area than the grove and do a smaller quest in a different sector of the map (save mirkon, explore the ruins, explore the owlbear cave for example) if the weave scene hasn’t triggered. the weave scene should trigger in cave and forest areas. - if you’ve triggered the weave scene, you are free to explore the game as you see fit

5. tiefling party (camp convo) -eliminate all goblin leads, talk to gale at the party

general -arcane hunger convos (happens while travelling): reliably trigger for me while travelling, especially when you cross certain trigger points at the emerald grove (entrance), defiled temple (entrance), blighted village/moonhaven (approach from either entry point, ethel's hideout -be careful to not recruit any other companion yet, other than perhaps lae and exhaust her dialogue -> gale has very low overall priority and other companions will usually overwrite his interjections & dialogue

i hope this was helpful to you! 🖤

[rissi-chan]

Gale: So, Bhaal created you from his own, dead flesh . . .

Durge: So I'm told.

Gale: So, presumably you look nothing like him - as a child might a parent.

Durge: Correct.

Gale: So, then, what made him decide to make you so attractive?

Durge: Perhaps he thought it would arouse less suspicion.

Gale: Yes, well, it aroused something else entirely, didn't it.

[houndstar]

Yes, I'm a bard.

[flumphmatingritualsexpert]

My favorite thing about Gale origin is that Tara will ONLY talk to Gale. When another companion comes up to her she is irritated and pretends she’s a normal cat.

Tara speaking to origin Gale and giving kitty scritches

Tara refusing to speak to Astarion

Astarion using potion of animal speaking

Tara refusing to speak to Astarion

[riddlerosehearts]

i really need everyone but especially anyone who romanced gale with a bard tav to know about this interaction from early access that larian took from us

[kemendin]

It's called depression, Astarion

[a2zillustration]

And then Gale showed me a magic trick and I went to bed.

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BG3 Companions' Reactions Following Scratch's Permadeath

The following lines are triggered when a character throws Scratch's ball after he's been permakilled (AKA, killed at camp rather than just as a summon).

Astarion

Good riddance to the dog. Who'd miss that waggy little tail... (devnote: Pretending not to be sad and failing)

Does it have a sad squeak now? Is that even possible?

I suppose I'll just pick it up myself.

Can't believe the stupid dog isn't here to get the stupid ball. (devnote: Pretending not to be sad and failing)

Gale

You were an excellent friend, Scratch - and that's coming from a cat-lover.

I hope there's balls and bones galore, wherever you are...

Poor Scratch. I'm lucky to have met you.

I hope Scratch doesn't miss his ball, wherever he is...

Karlach

I miss my dog.

Here, pup. (devnote: Sadly. The dog is dead and she knows this.)

Why am I doing this to myself?

Scratch should be here. With his family.

Lae'zel

It's not much fun alone.

I really don't know what I thought would happen.

Solo fetch. A miserable pastime.

Can't believe I'm going to say this, but - I miss Scratch.

Shadowheart

I need to stop doing this to myself...

I didn't do this enough, when I had the chance.

I hope Scratch has a new ball to play with, wherever he is...

It's silly... part of me felt like Scratch might still show up for his ball.

Wyll

Fetch isn't much of a solo game.

Damn. I miss the furry fellow.

For old times' sake.

I miss you, Scratch.

Halsin

I hope you are happy, wherever you are.

I am sorry, Scratch

I torment myself - Scratch is not going to come

Poor Scratch. I hope he is at peace.

Jaheira

Enough. This isn't helping anyone.

You deserved better, boy

Gods, but you'd miss the fuss. The noise. Gods above, even the smell.

Pointless, without a pup to chase it.

Minsc

Scratch, come and... oh. How could I forget he was gone, Boo?

No game of fetch will bring Scratch back from death.

I know he is gone, Boo, but... perhaps this is a way of keeping him alive, no?

I miss him, Boo.

Minthara

Everyone assumes I killed the dog. I liked the dog. (devnote: talking to herself. Comic edge to this.)

Scratch reminded me of my first displacer beast. A noble creature.

Withers! Be a good skeleton and fetch that ball. (devnote: joking—doesn't actually expect Withers to fetch the ball she just threw)

Gah. I miss the damn dog. (devnote: surprised by her own feelings)

[paarthursass]

genuinely love how the whole gang is like "fuck this guy"

[coolseabird]

She does like him 😭

This is the new Patch 7 non-romanced epilogue with Minthy as a Gale Origin and guys I adore it...

Here is a link to the video on my youtube channel:

https://youtu.be/kYmO66GatpI

I’m convinced Tumblr compresses videos

[blackjackkent]

Down the parsed dialogue rabbit hole again, this time looking at Ethel's Vicious Mockery lines for all the characters, and goddamn, they are brutal.

ASTARION You're one thirsty night away from betraying everyone. Deep down, you like being leashed, don't you? Is there still rat stuck in your teeth, slave?

GALE I can smell what's under those bandages, wizard. You're all rot and ruin. Come to greet death early? You'll be a lovely spectacle. Who would be jealous of you, apprentice?

KARLACH Let's pull your strings, infernal puppet. Happy to sell everyone's soul but your own, aren't you? When I'm done, even the Hells won't want you.

LAE'ZEL Your people will never take you back - illithid scum. Do you miss kissing Vlaakith's feet, gith? A toad with a tadpole! How fitting.

MINSC How quaint! The hamster has a pet. Only evil here is what's inside you, ranger. Go rub your rat, soft-skull.

SHADOWHEART You're so far up Shar's cake you can't see straight. Pathetic. Why would Shar love you when no one else does? You're no complex puzzle. Just a sad little girl.

WYLL Do you think losing that eye made you a hero? Oh, look! It's daddy's regret. Fraud of the Frontiers!

DRAGONBORN Aww, where's your clan? Bet they'd exile you for that brainworm in a blink. Bet that honour of yours shatters easy as your scales. You foul-breathed little lizard!

DWARF No flabby dwarf's a threat to me. More beard than brains, the lot of you. Bet you'd trade your friends for a trinket or two, gold-eater!

DWARF (DUERGAR) Bow your head, slave. You remember how, don't you? Grey and useless as a stone comb. I'll squeeze that stone heart until it bleeds, dwarf. Need a new master, illithid lover?

ELF Fancy yourself immortal? We'll see how long that lasts. I'll show you what a true fey does, dearie. Elves are so pretty. Pretty worthless!

ELF (DROW - FEMALE) Filthy underscum! Just another of Lolth's pretty harlots. Slaver. Sadist. How dare you judge me?

ELF (DROW - MALE) Bare your throat, spider-bait. Kneel, boy. Just like the matriarchs taught you to. Bow to your betters, boy.

GNOME Disgusting burrow rat. Bet your clan's happy you're gone! Try laughing after I rip your throat out, gnome.

HALF-ELF I wonder which parent regrets you more, half-breed. How revolting. Another thin-blooded mongrel. Half-elf. Half-human. All useless.

HALF-ELF (DROW) Even the Underdark doesn't want you, half-breed. A half-drow? How grotesque. Surprised you show yourself in public, abomination.

HALF-ORC Come now, tusks-for-brains! Doesn't this make you angry? All that bloodlust. A little tap, and I bet you won't know friend from foe! Lumbering half-orc. Twice as ugly as your parents combined!

HALFLING Come closer, little softie. You'll be tender. A tiny, sweet morsel. Just for me.

HUMAN Another human rat infesting Faerûn. A human! So desperate to be special. Pity. That tadpole actually made you interesting.

TIEFLING I'll burn you alive and everyone will celebrate. You're everyone's punching bag and no one's favourite. I see the Hells spit out another tragic little tiefling.

[galedekarios]

So, your last name is Dekarios?

[okthisway]

[fascinationstreetmp3]

Let me think... why are you really here?

[thedomesticanthropologist]

Things I think Gale would say, for no particular reason, in no particular order

- Shindig

-Well! Time to be hitting the ole' *knees Crack as he stands up and stretches* dusty trail

- The correct phasing is 'whom' not 'whomst', if you don't mind me saying. What? Correct grammar is *always* relevant in my humble opinion, no matter the setting (was correcting a villain mid monologue)

- I'll just be here then, twiddling my thumbs *mimes thumb twiddling and then chuckles at himself*

- HA! Handsome is as handsome does, I suppose. And I do handsome /quite/ well. *strokes his beard and then glances around to see if everyone agrees with him*

- Where there's a Wyll, there's a Wizard, eh? *claps Wyll across the shoulders with a companionable grin*

- I find onions very a-peeling, don't you? *winks, waves onion at you*

- A Wizards best armor is his wit and wisdom! (Got downed three times in the last fight)

- What an absolute bumfuzzle this book is

- Flibbertigibbet