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The gear box is shot, the steering’s gone and there’s enough rust there to sink the Titanic.
Robert, Len (who isn’t impressed by the junk heap that is Robert’s first car) and Nicola are at the garage when the DI and DS (aka future Sandra Flaherty) come looking for Scott. Donna can’t wait for Robert to pass his driving test ‘to go out and go wherever we want.’
18-Jul-2003
#classic ED#classic ed robert’s story#20030718#episode 3492#classic ED 2003#200307#robert sugden#karl davies#len reynolds#nicola blackstock#Elaine marsden#donna windsor#di Tom keysell#Ds Karen barnborough#future Sandra flaherty#robert really luvs that trash heap first car of his#robert the babe magnet
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Favorite Shows
I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about why specific shows mean so much to me, and I want to profile them in sort of a “why” type of post. No sort of big thing, just have a lot on my mind and want to talk about it.
Tuck Everlasting
This show deserved such a longer life than it had on a stage in New York. If I were only allowed to choose one thing that I adore about this show, it would without a doubt be the score. Every facet of it. Orchestrations, harmonies, reprises and all of that good stuff. Luckily, I make these rules.
The meaning and heart of this show is so vast and beautiful. First and foremost, the relationship that Winnie develops with the Tucks is something a lot of people fall in love with. She finds a father she never had in Angus, a nurturing mother she’s never had from Mae, an older brother in Miles, and a best friend in Jesse.
Something my friends and I discuss often is how natural of an actress Carolee Carmello is. She is nothing but honesty, truth, and transparency onstage. In this day and age, that’s something everyone should strive for. It’s truly a shame that she doesn’t have a Tony award yet (something I believe she earned in 1999). A little more about her character, Mae. Mae loves people, not things. Mae wears the same old clothes and is content with them. She rarely looks at herself in the mirror anymore by the time Winnie comes along, and her only prized possession is the music box that she has. She cares most about her family.
In terms of the immortality that the Tucks have, Jesse is often representative of the positives of being immortal. He’s young, spry, good-looking, and loves life and nature. Miles tends to be the figure for the negatives when it comes to living forever. He tends to skew Winnie away from the possibility of her also drinking from the spring and living forever. In “Time”, he explains to her that his immortality has done nothing but forced him to lose everything important to him., while Jesse tells Winnie in “Seventeen” that if she drinks from the spring that they can live together forever and live lives of happiness and possibly (probably) romance.
With Angus, Winnie has just lost her father, and Angus has never had a daughter. He tends to be gruff, but has a big soft spot for Winnie.
Of course, there’s The Man in the Yellow Suit, Hugo, Constable Joe, Mrs. Foster, and Nana, but whenever I get around to doing a full post dedicated to this show, I’ll talk about them too.
The themes in this show are something to love as well. It covers growing up, time and death, and loyalty to family. The Tucks, being in their predicament have seen and been forced to let go of many important people and memories in their lives. When Miles talks about his relationship with his son and former wife in “Time” or when Mae describes her favorite memory of when Angus asked her to marry him in “My Most Beautiful Day”.
The last thing I want to profile about this show is some of the lyrics in this show.
“Looking back is something to look forward to.” - Mae Tuck in “My Most Beautiful Day”
There is so much to unpack there. Come on.
“Time truly divides.” - Miles Tuck in “Time”
“Watching life pass it by just floating on top.” Angus Tuck in “The Wheel”
Every time I listen to this show, I am undone. It is such a beautiful and intimate story, and I wish it could’ve had a longer life. I am dying to work on this show in any capacity. Someday, I want to conduct it, but until then, I’ll keep rocking out to “Live Like This” on long drives. Or short drives to the grocery store three minutes from my house to get my mom mint chocolate chip ice cream.
Big Fish
I got the opportunity to be in this show almost a year ago and it was so fulfilling. The script, at times, is bunk, and the story can move a little faster than some can process, but what this show needs to succeed is a strong cast that is dedicated to telling the story.
There’s so much in this musical that I adore and if I were to talk about it in depth this would be a very very long post, so I’ll just cap it with saying that I love the score and the relationship between Edward and Sandra. I also love the relationship between Edward and Will.
I love the revisions made to the show for the small cast version with Sandra singing “Magic in the Man” (though I do love “Two Men in My Life” with all my heart) and Will and Edward singing “This River Between Us” rather than “Showdown. In the version we did, we actually assigned “Magic in the Man” to Jenny Hill to give her some more of a backstory on her relationship with Edward and left “Two Men in My Life” in the show for Sandra.
The show is really special because I lost my grandfather two months before we did this show. It was a real restoration to my soul to be completely honest. He was a lively man with lots of stories that he always told and a character like Edward Bloom is a pretty good counterpart.
The score is so lush and beautiful. I could listen to it all day.
Fiddler on the Roof
This show kinda ended the Golden Age. I really love the Golden Age and I think that’s where my heart lies when it comes to my love of musical theatre as a whole. It was very influential to many shows in the future and I’ll always love it.
I’m not Jewish, but what’s special about this show is that it was remarkable to many that it resounded beyond the Jewish faith. The center of this show is truly about tradition, togetherness, family, and true love.
Tevye and Golde is one of the most unique and real relationships on the stage, especially for that time period. They didn’t marry for love; they married so that they could have children and a successful life. Each one of their children progressively wishes to marry outside of that ideal, Tzeitel marrying her childhood sweetheart without a matchmaker, Hodel being engaged to Perchik without a matchmaker or permission from parents, and Chava marrying outside of the faith, directly disobeying orders from the family and with no permission from parents or a matchmaker.
Tevye has to make many hard decisions throughout the show, allowing his daughters to marry men for love. The turmoil that he experiences when disowning Chava has always been hard to watch.
There are so many lovely and beautiful and amazing moments in this show, including “The Dream”, “Tradition”, “Matchmaker” (especially how they did it in the last Broadway revival), “Sabbath Prayer”, and “Chavaleh”. Danny Burstein refers to the score as “musical theatre mother’s milk”. It is nourishing like no other. I will always love this show.
The King and I
This was a show I truly learned to love my freshman year of college. Like many, I’ve known “I Whistle a Happy Tune” and “Getting to Know You” for a very long time. I got to see it with friends from college when it went to movie theaters and I was amazed by Kelli O’Hara, Ken Watanabe, and Ruthie Ann Miles. Each of them gave such incredible performances.
I wish this show could be done more often, but it requires a mostly Asian cast. I am so thankful that there is more representation now than there was when this show premiered, so much so that the last revival was cast completely appropriate. Kind of ridiculous that it took this long.
The women in this show are what propels it. There is a chilling scene in particular when Lady Thiang finds Tuptim and confronts her about her relationship with Lun Tha.
One thing I’ve always been fascinated by is race in the classroom. I’ve had the privilege of having teachers of all different ethnic backgrounds, including my preschool teacher. I’ve always been grateful for the opportunity to learn through all different lenses. I was moved to tears almost immediately when I saw the classroom scene when Anna is teaching all the children during “Getting to Know You” and then there’s the dance break where one of the wives performs a dance for Anna, and then Anna and Louis perform a dance for the children and wives, and then they morph them together! It’s just beautiful because that’s a symbol of people of different ethnic backgrounds coming together and teaching each other something so special that it’s beyond words: they dance. I adore that scene.
The relationship between Anna and Lady Thiang is also something I admire very much. The scene before “Something Wonderful” is also just gorgeous. There’s something to be said for Ruthie Ann Miles’ performance transitioning between Broadway and West End. As many know, she got into a near-fatal car accident while walking with her child and unborn child on the crosswalk, and both children were killed. In the West End, she used a cane because of the recovery from the wreck, which aged the character and made her a little less mobile, but it also made her more authoritative and made you want to listen to her and know what she was thinking. It was a brilliant decision to incorporate that into her character.
Getting to see this production, albeit in theaters, was an amazing experience.
John & Jen
I got to music direct this show my freshman year of college with two dear friends of mine as the siblings. It’s funny, it’s sad, it’s real; all of it. I love it.
This score uses motif and reprises in a way that is really touching to me. If I were to choose a song that makes me happy, I’d say “Timeline”. It’s really groovy and it’s the biggest character shifts for the both of them. If I were to choose one that always makes me sad, it’d be “Hold Down the Fort”. Kate Baldwin and Carolee Carmello both were extraordinary in the role of Jen. It became so important to me when I got to do it. I’m thankful for this show.
Ragtime
This will be the last one. This show is so incredibly special to me. Other than something like Wicked, this show was one of the first shows I really got into. The story and score are so cohesive and they work together really well. I love Ahrens and Flaherty and their style is so broad, yet so specific.
Similar to my feelings on The King and I, Ragtime incorporates the lives of Caucasians, African-Americans, and Jewish Immigrants and they all learn things about each other through various encounters during the show. Some find love, some find hate, and it’s just an incredible show. I will never get enough of this beautiful story about justice and truth according the law.
Mother and Tateh’s relationship is one of my favorites in the mega-musical canon. *do y’all consider Ragtime a mega-musical? I do? or do I?*
The show requires a very large and very diverse cast that can sing and act incredibly well. Nothing is like the full orchestration doing this show. I love it so dearly. It has so many lessons we can learn from.
I really love these shows and they’ll always mean tons to me.
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Aaron & Robert & Chas & Paddy related Spoilers & Cast List 5-9 November
Monday 5 November
What’s On TV
A crowd gathers to witness the opening of a community garden, celebrating the life of Gerry Roberts, who was murdered by serial killer Lachlan White.
It’s a bittersweet moment for Doug Potts, who had a close bond with the lad and for a long time blamed himself for Gerry’s death at the B&B. Laurel Thomas soon gives Doug further angst when she confides in her dad, telling him she wants to end her relationship with Bob Hope!
Digital Spy
Paddy is shocked when Rhona reveals the vets are in financial trouble and a lot of their clients are jumping ship to a cheaper vets nearby.
What’s On TV
Having returned to work, Paddy Kirk is stunned to hear from colleague Rhona Goskirk that their vets’ practice is suffering thanks to a cheaper rival having opened nearby. With Paddy grieving for the recent death of his newborn daughter, Rhona hasn’t wanted to bog him down with extra worry.
Tuesday 6 November
ITV
Aaron has Seb in the back of the car. He chats to him, clearly struggling with taking him home to Rebecca.
What’s On TV
At the vets’, Paddy Kirk throws himself into work and insists on treating a client’s poorly cat. But when the vet finishes the surgery and is assessing the puss’ progress, Paddy (Dominic Brunt) finds it’s died. The cat’s demise touches a nerve in Paddy, who’s grieving over the very recent death of his newborn daughter Grace.
Paddy’s found in floods by concerned colleague Rhona Goskirk
Wednesday 7 November
ITV
Paddy has set up a scene for the lady to say farewell to her cat Marmalade. But his efforts backfire as the lady is seething with rage over the cats unexplained death.
Aaron has an unexpected proposition...
TV Times
Aaron wants to start a family with Robert
Chas is aware of the growing distance between her and Paddy
Digital Spy
Aaron broaches the subject of him and Robert having their own child and Robert is stunned.
Meanwhile, with Paddy struggling at work, Chas is aware there's a growing distance between them and both feel alone in their grief. Can the couple get through their struggles and will Paddy open up?
Radio Times
Aaron has an unexpected proposition & grief divides Chas and Paddy
TV Choice
Robert is lost for words when a hesitant Aaron broaches the subject of them having their own child. Does he want to be a dad again or has his husband misread things?
What’s On TV
He’s not long been officially married but Aaron Dingle’s already got big plans for the future.
Robert Sugden is left stunned when his excited husband Aaron says he wants them to start a family of their own!
With Aaron’s mum Chas grieving from the very recent death of her newborn daughter and Robert having nightmares with ex-lover Rebecca over their baby son Seb, the timing is a little off but Aaron doesn’t seem fazed. Can he get reluctant Robert on side?
What’s On TV
Landlady Chas Dingle, meanwhile, is really worried about her relationship with Paddy Kirk, which is being tested to the limit as they grieve for their daughter Grace. Can Chas get Paddy to open up to her?
Thursday 8 November
TV Times
Aaron fears Robert doesn’t want a child with him
Digital Spy
Robert's intentions are questioned.
Chas takes the initiative.
What’s On TV
The ripples of love-trouble are felt elsewhere. Aaron Dingle’s all excited about the idea of starting a family but finds his hubby Robert Sugden putting the brakes on him when he tries to talk to his mum Chas about it. Robert’s intervention sparks a worry in Aaron who wonders if his man actually wants to raise kids with him at all.
Second Episode
What’s On TV
Robert Sugden tries to make things right with Aaron Dingle who’s upset about Robert’s attitude to starting a family. Will broody Aaron get to hear all the right words from Robert? Or is their relationship on the rocks already so shortly after getting hitched?
Digital Spy
Paddy admits his true feelings.
Friday 9 November
N/A
Cast List
Aaron Dingle Danny Miller
April Windsor Amelia Flanagan
Arthur Thomas Alfie Clarke
Bob Hope Tony Audenshaw
Brenda Walker Lesley Dunlop
Cain Dingle Jeff Hordley
Cathy Hope Gabrielle Dowling
Charity Dingle Emma Atkins
Chas Dingle Lucy Pargeter
Debbie Dingle Charley Webb
Doug Potts Duncan Preston
Ellis Chapman Asan N'Jie
Gabby Thomas Rosie Bentham
Graham Foster Andrew Scarborough
Heath Hope Sebastian Dowling
Jai Sharma Christopher Bisson
Jessie Grant Sandra Marvin
Jimmy King Nick Miles
Kerry Wyatt Laura Norton
Laurel Thomas Charlotte Bellamy
Liv Flaherty Isobel Steele
Lydia Hart Karen Blick
Manpreet Jutla Rebecca Sarker
Marlon Dingle Mark Charnock
Moira Dingle Natalie J Robb
Mrs Mills Annie Sawle
Nicola King Nicola Wheeler
Noah Dingle Jack Downham
Paddy Kirk Dominic Brunt
Pearl Ladderbanks Meg Johnson
Pete Barton Anthony Quinlan
Priya Kotecha Fiona Wade
Rhona Goskirk Zoe Henry
Rishi Sharma Bhasker Patel
Robert Sugden Ryan Hawley
Sam Dingle James Hooton
Samson Dingle Sam Hall
Sarah Sugden Katie Hill
Tracy Metcalfe Amy Walsh
Cardiologist Nicholas Asbury
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So I’ve been thinking a lot about the kids in the village. And when I say kids, I mean the babies to the teens, so I’m not thinking of Belle who is in her twenties.
And so I made a list of all of them and their most immediate family members, no cousins because then we would be drowning in Dingles. They are going to be the big characters of the future and the show seems to be diving into the kids more lately. And mainly because I was curious who belonged in what family and how old they were. Stayed mostly with the kids that were currently living in the village, so kids like Molly Sharma are not on this list, since they live elsewhere.
If I did something incorrectly or forgot someone, please let me know.
Dingle Family
Liv Flaherty: February 16, 2002/16 years old
Gordon Livesy (father deceased), Sandra Flaherty (mother), Aaron Dingle (half brother paternal), Robert Sugden (brother in law paternal)
Noah Dingle: March 1, 2004/14 years old
Chris Tate (father deceased), Charity Dingle (mother), Debbie Dingle (half sister maternal), Joe Tate (half brother paternal), Moses Dingle (half brother maternal)
Samson Dingle: January 12, 2006/12 years old
Sam Dingle (father), Alice Dingle (mother deceased), Zak Dingle (grandfather paternal), Lisa (step grandmother paternal), Cain Dingle (half uncle paternal), Belle Dingle (half aunt paternal)
April Windsor: August 13, 2009/9 years old
Marlon Dingle (father), Donna Windsor (mother deceased), Bob Hope (step grandfather sorta maternal), Leo Goskirk (half brother paternal)
Leo Goskirk: May 31, 2011/7 years old
Marlon Dingle (father), Rhona Goskirk (mother), Paddy Kirk (stepfather sorta), April Winsor (half sister paternal)
Kyle Winchester: December 1, 2011/7 years old
Cain Dingle (father), Amy Wyatt (mother), Moira Dingle (stepmother), Zak Dingle (grandfather paternal), Lisa (step grandmother paternal), Faith Dingle (grandmother paternal), Kerry Wyatt (grandmother maternal), Dan Spencer (step grandfather maternal)
Moses Dingle: June 11, 2015/3 years old
Ross Barton (father), Charity Dingle (mother), James Barton (grandfather paternal deceased), Emma Barton (grandmother paternal deceased), Pete Barton (uncle paternal), Finn Barton (uncle paternal), Adam Barton (half uncle paternal), Debbie Dingle (half sister maternal), Noah Dingle (half brother maternal)
Issac Dingle: October 3, 2017/6 months old
Cain Dingle (father), Moira Dingle (mother), Zak Dingle (grandfather paternal), Lisa Dingle (step grandmother paternal), Faith Dingle (grandmother paternal) Sam Dingle (half uncle paternal), Belle Dingle (half aunt paternal), Chas Dingle (half aunt paternal), Debbie Dingle (half sister paternal), Kyle Winchester (half brother paternal), Holly Barton (half sister deceased maternal), Adam Barton (half brother maternal), Hannah Barton (half sister maternal)
Hope Family
Cathy Hope: February 9, 2007/11 years old
Bob Hope (father), Viv Hope (mother deceased), Brenda Walker (stepmother sorta), Heath Hope (brother)
Heath Hope: Febuary 9, 2007/11 years old
Bob Hope (father), Viv Hope (mother deceased), Brenda Walker (stepmother sorta), Cathy Hope (sister)
King Family
Elliot Windsor: 2008/10 years old
Jimmy King (father), Kelly Windsor (mother), Nicola King (stepmother), Bob Hope (step grandfather sorta paternal), Carl King (uncle deceased paternal), Angelica King (half sister paternal), Carl Holliday (half brother paternal)
Angelica King: August 9, 2009/9 years old
Jimmy King (father), Nicola King (mother), Rodney Blackstock (grandfather maternal), Bernice Blackstock (half aunt maternal), Carl King (uncle deceased paternal), Elliot Windsor (half brother paternal), Carl Holliday (half brother paternal)
Carl Holliday: October 7, 2014/4 years old
Jimmy King (father), Juliette Holliday (mother), Nicola King (stepmother), Carl King (uncle deceased paternal), Elliot Windsor (half brother paternal), Angelica (half sister paternal)
Metcalfe Family
Jacob Gallagher: March 31, 2003/15 years old
Justin Gallagher (father), Leyla Harding (mother), Alicia Metcalfe (adoptive mother), David Metcalfe (stepfather), Tracy Metcalfe (stepmother), Eric Pollard (step grandfather), Amba Metcalfe (stepsister sorta)
Amba Metcalfe: May 16, 2014/4 years old
David Metcalfe (father), Priya Sharma (mother), Eric Pollard (grandfather paternal), Rishi Sharma (grandfather maternal), Tracy Metcalfe (stepmother), Jai Sharma (uncle maternal), Nikhil Sharma (uncle maternal), Jacob Gallagher (stepbrother sorta)
Sharma Family
Eliza Sharma: March 3, 2016/2 years old
Jai Sharma (father), Megan Macey (mother), Rishi Sharma (grandfather paternal), Nikhil Sharma (uncle paternal), Priya Sharma (aunt paternal), Archie Breckle (half brother paternal)
Sugden Family
Sarah Sugden Jr: June 6, 2005/13 years old
Andy Sugden (father), Debbie Dingle (mother), Charity Dingle (grandmother maternal), Cain Dingle (grandfather maternal), Jack Sugden (adoptive grandfather deceased paternal), Sarah Sugden (adoptive grandmother deceased paternal), Diane Sugden (step grandmother paternal), Zak Dingle (great grandfather paternal), Faith Dingle (great grandmother paternal), Lisa Dingle (step great grandmother paternal) Jack Sugden Jr (brother)
Jack Sugden Jr: October 17, 2012/6 years old
Andy Sugden (father), Debbie Dingle (mother), Charity Dingle (grandmother maternal), Cain Dingle (grandfather maternal), Jack Sugden (adoptive grandfather deceased paternal), Sarah Sugden (adoptive grandmother deceased paternal), Diane Sugden (step grandmother paternal), Zak Dingle (great grandfather paternal), Faith Dingle (great grandmother paternal), Lisa Dingle (step great grandmother paternal), Sarah Sugden Jr (sister)
Sebastian White: November 9, 2017/5 months old
Robert Sugden (father), Rebecca White (mother), Jack Sugden (grandfather deceased paternal), Sarah Sugden (step grandmother deceased paternal) Lawrence White (grandfather deceased maternal), Chrissie White (aunt deceased maternal), Andy Sugden (adoptive uncle paternal), Victoria Barton (half aunt paternal), Aaron Dingle (stepfather paternal)
Thomas Family
Gabby Thomas: Dec 25, 2001/17 years old
Ashley Thomas (father) deceased, Bernice Blackstock (mother), Laurel Thomas (stepmother), Diane Sugden (maternal grandmother), Doug Potts (step grandfather), Sandy Thomas (paternal grandfather), Arthur Thomas (half brother paternal), Dede (half sister maternal) Dotty Thomas (half sister paternal)
Arthur Thomas: August 26, 2007/11 years old
Laurel Thomas (mother), Ashley Thomas (father) deceased, Doug Potts (maternal grandfather), Sandy Thomas (paternal grandfather), Gabby Thomas (half sister paternal), Dotty Thomas (sister)
Dotty Thomas: September 2, 2016/ 1 years old
Ashley Thomas (father) deceased, Laurel Thomas (mother), Doug Potts (grandfather maternal), Sandy Thomas (grandfather paternal), Gabby Thomas (half sister paternal), Arthur Thomas (brother)
Woodfield Family
Johnny Woodfield: September 11, 2015/2 years old
Kirin Kotecha (father), Vanessa Woodfield (mother), Frank Clayton (grandfather maternal), Rakesh Kotecha (grandfather paternal), Tracy Metcalfe (half aunt maternal), David Metcalfe (uncle maternal)
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Haunted By the Past
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by caitpaige101, lingeringmelodies
what do you do when your past threatens your future?
Words: 1564, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: Emmerdale
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: Rape/Non-Con
Categories: M/M
Characters: Robert Sugden, Aaron Dingle, Cain Dingle, Chas Dingle, Victoria Barton, Adam Barton, Gordon Livesy, Sandra Flaherty, Liv Flaherty, Andy Sugden, Jack Sugden
Relationships: Aaron Dingle/Robert Sugden
Additional Tags: Alcohol Abuse, Rape, Homelessness, Organ Transplantation, Rape Recovery, Violence, Minor Character Death, Health Issues, Angst, Family, Slow Burn
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Emmerdale spoilers revealed in The Metro’s summer preview
The truth will out
The secret that Robert and Rebecca slept together has been a ticking timebomb ever since that fateful episode and it’s all set to hit the fan when Robron return to our screens later this month. But how will Aaron learn the truth and how on earth can their relationship survive this?
Teasing a big and dramatic episode ahead, Iain explained: ‘There’s a state of the nation type, hour long episode where their relationship is hanging in the balance. I hope it will answer some of the concerns the ardent Robron fans have about the direction that the story is taking.’
Rebecca’s decision
Whether or not Robert and Aaron stick together or are torn apart, Rebecca remains pregnant and the big elephant in the room is what the future will hold for the trio. What will Rebecca decide for the future of her unborn child and will Robert play a big part in the life of his offspring? And how might Aaron feel about it all?
While Iain confirmed that Rebecca will not be pursuing any kind of romantic future with Robert, the issue of the baby will likely keep their worlds intertwined – but can they all reach a solution or is there more angst and conflict ahead?
+ big returns ahead
Chas Dingle – Emmerdale
When is she back?
Unconfirmed.
What is ahead?
A lot has already changed since Chas left to take Liv to see Sandra – and goodness knows what else might have gone on by the time that she returns. As it stands, Aaron and Robert are on the precipice of disaster as Robert’s night with Rebecca is set to be revealed – and the revelation that she is pregnant will change everything.
But soap world is a fast moving place – it seems that by the time Chas gets home, Robron will be settled in the Mill and a second wedding may be around the corner so during the months that she is away, things could be getting fixed. Could she be returning as a wedding guest?
Meanwhile, where will her relationship with her mum Faith stand? The pair didn’t part on good terms so can things be fixed when Chas gets back?
Liv Flaherty – Emmerdale
When is she back?
Later this year.
What is ahead?
It’s a similar story to the above – just how will Liv react when she discovers that Robert cheated on Aaron during that fateful night with Rebecca? It took Liv a substantial amount of time to accept Robert so this is bound to affect her quite a bit. Once Liv arrives home, will she she be rooting for Robron – or encouraging Aaron to cut Robert loose?
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