#forcefem (gender affirming)

[amisonist]

god I need a girl to force me to dress up all cute before fucking the shit out of me in front of a mirror and forcing me to watch

I'm uh exceedingly normal about this idea yep!

[starryjoy]

I stg people on this website have started saying that forcefem is "the trans kink that affirms your gender" as if it wasn't born within cis sissy communities and isn't mostly used as a degradation kink. like I'm sorry but forcefem being this cutesy thing to allow trans women to be themselves is not how most people do it

...which is also why I call forcefem and bimbofication towards transfems and forcemasc towards transmascs "gender affirming kink"

[ethanscrocs]

the other day i was explaining to my bf how i don't mind "genderbent" merlin art if it's not annoyingly heterosexual because she's transfem to me but "genderbent" arthur art just feels so very unrealistic. if he was born a girl he would just transition to be honest... people will try to do genderbending but "trans positive" by just saying it's lesbian merthur but then they're both conventionally feminine cis women and truly i don't think that works with their characters... merlin who defies every boundary and societal norm? arthur pendragon? arthur would never be a cis woman he would just transition sorry...

actually hold on. arthur is assumed to be a "tomboy" crossdresser and he pretty much only takes on the role of a princess when his father expects it. considered a harmless fancy. gets to the point where everyone even his knights call him prince arthur but as a "joke" because of how masculine he is. merlin gets assigned as the princess' maidservant and eventually arthur is like Merlin... you must understand... this isn't playing dress up, to me. this is who i am. and merlin's like Ohhh Okay. Lol. Me Too it's okay i get it. and then she walks away and it takes arthur days to realize that merlin was implying she's transfem

there's your yuri merthur if it was awesome and transgender. butch transmasc he/him lesbian arthur and genderfluid trans girl merlin. love wins!

[rebellum]

*sees literally one of the dumbest discourses I've seen in my 12 years on this website off in the foggy distance*

[ofide]

good for the transmasc bloggers having fun with the "forcemasc" images but those don't seem very forced to me. which is also why they're not very sexy

[miraclemaya]

hopefully i will write this at some point now, but im more personally interested in brutal and painful clawing at femininity than like someone force femming you

[eileennatural]

Just saw a video of bari weiss defending book bans bc there's "no reason to expect" books about sexual orientation and "gender ideology" to be in schools. okay well when i was 13 i checked invisible monsters by chuck palahnuik out of the school library and it changed my life so.. i loved it so much it remains my absolute favorite book ten years later

[zeitghost]

my stupid gender affirming forcefem amulet doesn't even give people tits anymore it just says "you were a girl all along!" fuck this shit fuck this shit for real i’m giving up sorcery forever

[isuggestforcefem]

Oh wise forcefem scholar. Does forcing someone from she/her to it/its while still keeping them as a girl count as forcefem

The best way to affirm a girl’s gender is to objectify her!

[gamer-goo]

To put my feelings on forcemasc more eloquently, I feel that it forgets that the operative parts of Forcefemming are A) the sexual fetishization of transfeminized bodies(that we are sex objects first and foremost, and our presence always carries with it sexual assumptions that simply aren’t present for transgender men the same way) and B) the shame of failing at masculinity, and becoming something lesser. It operates on comparison less to the bodies of cisgender women, but to the shame of Being Transfeminized, which is to say, the sexual allure and repulsion of being a “girl” with a dick. The forcefeminized subject is rarely treated as a woman in nonsexual/sexually adjacent settings, and the allure of forcefeminization os having a man forced into the role of a woman in a bedroom, which is to say submission. Forcefem is in most forms about a man being submissive, and the shame that carries with it, largely in the form of de-gendering and third gendering as you see with trans women(this is why it’s important that we remember that neither transgender women nor a forcefeminized subject are treated as women in ways that matter! We’re something worse!)

Compare all of this to Forcemascing, which from what I’ve seen largely seems to revolve around affirmation of already masculinized subjects or like. Making cis girls take testosterone? We see that it sort of rings hollow because there’s no shame, or at least not even nearly the same amount! The social stigma of failing at masculinity into a feminized faggot of a man is something that doesn’t really exist in the other direction, we could almost consider this a sort of “failing upward” situation, there’s no stigma to becoming a man because there’s no stigma to being a man! The social pressures of “misandry” just don’t exist! And that’s why there’s no like well established Forcemascing Scenes or demand for it in sexual commodities like there is for Forcefem Porn(be it femboys, l*dyboys, trans girls with huge cocks and ridiculously big tits, etc), it’s not that it’s new! But it’s for the same reasons that it’s new, it just. Doesn’t work the same way. When you remove the shame of being feminized, it just turns into a very roundabout rape kink. Which is fine to have! But let’s call it what it is, no? Making someone take a kind of drug against their will for the purposes of fucking them and making them love it is like very textbook rape kink when we remove the shame of feminization IMHO.

And I think that’s really my problem with Forcemascing, it’s just kind of another example of tbros seeing trans girls embrace what we are and enjoy ourselves or create language to describe the contours of our oppression and they go “oh I want to have that, if the girls get it the boys should get it!” Without any further research or introspection about WHY we do these things, so they create some weird shit that relies on completely bogus frameworks. You cannot separate forcefeminization from structural and cultural transmisogyny, and just like how transmisandry isn’t real, forcemasc doesn’t really work!

[amisonist]

I’ve never understood why people actually take that seriously. Like if I see an egg acting eggy I’m gonna toss the idea out there because frankly I remember what it was like being an egg like that and it would’ve made my life way easier if someone just came out and said “hey have you ever thought that you could be trans”. Like seriously what’s the difference between that and saying “hey have you ever thought that you could have anxiety” when someone is showing symptoms of anxiety. There literally isn’t one unless you think that being trans is a bad thing or something that shouldn’t be encouraged

it wouldnt even be forcefemming for some of you itd be lightsuggestingfem. gentlebreezefemming.

[forcebutch]

if you saw this post before, no you didn't.

i read the "ryland forcemasc manifesto". and i think it's fucking stupid. forcemasc doesn't actually need to be brought "in line" with popular renditions of forcefem for any reason. sure, you can think the aesthetics are lame (🙄) and not sexy, that's not a crime, you are entitled to your subjectivity and can create your own forcemasc art within the parameters of what you think is erotically valuable. you don't even have to be a tguy to do it. but if we wanna get objective about it as an art, the intent of forcemasc art is for people to jerk off to it. and i promise you, there are, in fact, people jerking off to even the most "sexless" images you can find in the tag. in that, forcemasc is already aesthetically/erotically successful.

a lot of forcemasc does play on fears around masculine transition — hypersexuality, destroyed feminine beauty, addiction, loss of womanhood etc. — but since it is a kink chiefly driven by tguys (and followed by pre-T and repressed ones, if my asks and the reaction to the stuff ive made are any indication) it's not extricable from the desire to affirm one's male or masculine gender.

i resent the implication that the significantly smaller cultural footprint of forcemasc is a sign that it needs to be changed. if i wanted to jerk off to/make cis-centric genderplay humiliation porn i would be doing that instead of [gestures to my blog] all of this. if you start thinking "forcemasc must—" beyond "forcemasc must be forced masculinity" you have already lost the plot.

[i-like-forcefem]

This might be a tad heavy but after that last ask, like

God, so much content that explores gender in an even slightly fantasy/sexual way is just. Sooo cis/het-norminative. A guy being feminine is his failure to be appropriately masculine, a girl being masculine is her running away from her obligation to femininity. Add bdsm elements and it’s just endless harassment and bullying of people who want to explore gender spectrum, played for fap material.

And then blogs like yours that mix in some bdsm elements but are run by people who can do and will say “it’s not a failure to want to be feminine. We make fantasies about forcefully turning boys into girls because fantasies are fun and we want to cater to trans girls who just want someone to do their transition for them. Ultimately your gender is what you want it to be and these fantasies are expressly for people who want to fantasize about being in the fictional scenarios because they’re also people who exist and deserve respect.”

Is it any wonder you guys make me question me gender so much

Mhm! We’re filling a very important gap in the forcefem market here!

(Went on a bit of a tangent here so a read more was added as buffer, tldr: degrading forcefem is my villain origin story, we need more love)

Sissy-stuff is fine, I find it hot even!

But it’s so degrading, dehumanising, devoid of any love or real empathy

The notion that you truly want to be a girl, there is something wrong with you

That you’re a broken, lesser man, and nothing you can do will change that

And that’s silly!!!

If you make a habit out of looking at blogs like this, chances are: You’re already a girl!

And that’s lovely!

But the degrading elements take that desire for attention, plausible deniability and turn it against you

Turn into something that makes you feel lesser

And being lesser is hot don’t get me wrong

But after you take off the panty gag, after the skimpy skirt now soaked in cum comes off and you’re only left in the chastity cage you’re “supposed” to wear

Well it’s already really easy to see yourself as a freak, aftercare is one of the most important things in kink, and degrading forcefem not only makes it absasnt, but it even makes a habit out of never ending the scenario!

You’re always supposed to wear a cage

You always have desires for feminine clothes, not because you’re a girl, but because you’re some sick frak of a man who needs to be trained to be a sissy and finally be of use to someone

And that’s not true!!!

Degrading forcefem is hot, but it seeps into your entire life, makes a core part of your identity how you are less

And on of my missions is to say that Gender Euphoria is the hottest thing in the world

That’s why forcefem attracts me!

I’m not even that into it

But the plausible deniability, the excuse to wear skirts, the fantasising about getting a big sis who knows how good you look in skirts, and we can’t waste that potential can we?

Forcefem is filled with affirmation, it’s alright to be a girl!

Forcefem is a fantasy, imagine you woke up to find your body in a girl!

And as a dom Forcefem is a way to help, and love, those who won’t or can’t help themselves, which is a self indulgent fantasy as well

This is a bit of tangent, I want to be clear that there’s nothing wrong degrading forcefem, it’s hot

But it’s devoid of any love

It leaves you sitting in the bathroom after eating your own cum wondering

Am I even really a girl?

And I’d do anything to make sure that no one else has to feel that way

If you reading this is a sissy, or a “confused” man, a self proclaimed “boy”

Well I can’t stress enough: Try being a girl

I give you permission to

Change your pronouns, find a new name, wear skirts outside of kink, start E

Whatever you’d want to do

Your kink doesn’t define you

You are not broken

You are not filthy

You are more then a slut

You are a woman

(I’d assume so, at least, if you continue to read this far down a post like this, and if you try it, and it doesn’t work, well no harm done!)

A be a good girl and put on a skirt for me cutie

And look at yourself, not as a sissy, but as a woman

[velvetvexations]

I have the forcefem meme blog blocked but someone I follow put a post of her's on my dash and she's just straight up saying "this isn't a kink blog, the way I do forcefem isn't kinky" and I swear my brain stopped working entirely for a second. I don't think there's anything wrong with kinks changing with a subculture or community or becoming memes but like. Come on. Forcefem is a kink, that's what it is. I try not to get too worked up about this blog because it's not good for me and my judgement does get clouded by the dysphoria it triggers but like, it really does genuinely worry me the way the meme-ification of forcefem has completely divorced the kink element from what is still very fucking clearly a kink. This whole "I'm not doing it in a kink way" is not a get out of kink free card, and it's a piss poor excuse for going around and flooding this website with kink stuff that now essentially cannot be avoided in trans spaces. No other kink that has like, a potentially sfw angle has a community that acts like this about it, people who do like bootblacking performances where no explicitly sexual acts take place still make it clear this is a kink thing so people can avoid it if they want, and there are huge arguments in furry communities over if you can even do "sfw" vore because vore is a kink even when no traditional sex acts are being depicted. Every other kink community gets that even when no one is fucking, a kink is still a kink and should be treated as such for the safety of everyone, why should THIS be the exception??

Ugh anyway sorry didn't want this to turn into a rant, I really don't think there's anything wrong with doing a fun sfw kind of forcefem with people who consent but like, as a kinky person who cares a lot about kink and BDSM history and communities the blatant refusal to consider forcefem a kink AT ALL is concerning. You cannot un-kink-ify it, this is a kink goddamn it and when you stop treating it as such you open up a LOT of unsafe grey areas on top of making it borderline impossible for people who are squicked out by it to avoid it because no one is going to tag for something they think is a harmless, gender-affirming, tgirl approved meme.

Idk tho maybe I'm letting my own dysphoria get in the way, feel free to check me if that's the case I will take the L with grace, but I just feel like this "It's not a kink when I do it" thing is...in poor taste, at the very least. I don't think it's intentionally malicious either I just don't like it when we stop recognizing that a kink is a kink.

I advocate tirelessly for being able to live BDSM relationships in public to the extent that "normal" relationships are allowed, but what I do not do is say I should get to snap a collar around a random girl's neck and drag her off because it's just a lifestyle. Like fuck off with "it's not a kink," IT IS, and it is NON-CON.

My biggest fan can't shut up about me supposedly calling trans women groomers because I think it's bad for trans men to say they want to cure trans women's "comphet," but you know what's also sexually coercive? Shoving your non-con fetish at people, many of whom are going to have reasons to be outright triggered by it, and then call it fine because it's so totally non-sexual.

SATIRE BEGIN

Well, okay, fine, start making indiscriminate forcemasc jokes at women. It's not a kink! There's nothing wrong with being a trans man! How could they possibly complain?

SATIRE END

That's a rhetorical question too, the answer is that they'd be massive hypocrites about it and say some dumbass shit like "transmascs just invented forcemasc to gentrify our fet I MEAN NOT A FETISH" or "trans men shouldn't care about being forcefemmed because there's nothing wrong with it but being a man is Bad."

[mas-o-kissed]

I realized the other day that almost all of my thoughts about forcefem are about women and forcemasc are about men. It has nothing to do with changing a person’s gender, it’s about exaggerating and sexualizing the gender they already have.

It’s about taking away their identity as a person. It’s about transforming them into a caricature. A stereotype. The kind of man or woman they would have looked down on before they were changed.

Gender-affirmation but like in a “I’m going to make you the worst version of what you are” kinda way

[xenasaur]

Kink rating: forcefem (gender affirming)

Idk why I’m asking this on anon considering the question is a dead giveaway to who I am but whatevs

10/10. fucking love forcefemming. turning girlfailures into estrogenized girlfailures isn't just a kink, it's a lifestyle