#for disco trek for a change

[t-rina]

torn between “she looks so proud bc she’s finally married to saru” and “she looks so proud bc she fan finally call michael an official part of her family”

[ansonmountdaily]

Star Trek: Discovery ending in 2024

Anson Mount wrote a beautiful message after news came out that Star Trek: Discovery will be ending with a final 5th season in 2024:

"My Dearest Discovery Family,

You have charted the stars far beyond where our imaginations had ever taken us. In so doing, you have accomplished the mission: you have changed many lives, including mine. I love you, always.

- Captain Christopher Pike USS Enterprise, NCC-1701"

On his Instagram he also shared a cast group photo from Season 2.

Source: Anson Mount Official Twitter and Instagram, March 3 2023

[rinshairandthoughts]

Threw on some color. ♥

[greenleaf4stuff]

*going through blogs of my current fandom like an archeologist trying to gently uncover artifacts from times past*

[gaylos-lobos]

star trek needs to decenter the west

[nebulouscoffee]

Okay time for another 3am essay haha. So I've always loved Michael Burnham, but recently- while watching Disco S4 for the first time- she has truly ascended to blorbo status. Her arc is incredible, and so underrated! I think maybe the earlier seasons were a bit too focused on her connection to Spock and his family, so now that there's some distance from all that, I'm able to appreciate her diasporic experience as a child of two worlds even more? And seeing her consistently fall back on logic to reassure herself but also connecting with her crew specifically through her emotional intelligence and transparency, humanising herself but still striking the right notes of authority, all without ever raising her voice, is just- ahh it's so good. She's shaping up to being one of the coolest Star Trek captains!

After watching her big (Very Trekkian) speech in S4E7, I was tempted to go back and rewatch some of the pilot, just to see how far she'd come- and I was struck by this parallel (I haven't seen S1 since it aired in 2017, so please forgive me if I'm just pointing out the obvious hehe)

S1E1 (while trying to convince Captain Georgiou to fire at the Klingons):

BURNHAM: Captain, we have to fire on them. Hit that ship with everything we've got.  GEORGIOU: Absolutely not. They haven't powered weapons. They don't appear to pose an imminent threat.  BURNHAM: The Klingon threat is always imminent and inevitable. [...] 240 years ago, near H'Atoria, a Vulcan ship crossed into Klingon space. The Klingons attacked immediately. They destroyed the vessel. Vulcans don't make the same mistake twice. From then on, until formal relations were established, whenever the Vulcans crossed paths with Klingons, the Vulcans fired first. They said hello in a language the Klingons understood. Violence brought respect. Respect brought peace. Captain, we have to give the Klingons a Vulcan hello. GEORGIOU: If their intention is to attack, balling up our fists won't dissuade them.  BURNHAM: It would be logical for you to take into account my success rate during our seven years together, and execute my plan without further challenge before we're dragged into war.  GEORGIOU: Starfleet doesn't fire first. That's all, Number One.  BURNHAM: We have to.  GEORGIOU: In my ready room.

GEORGIOU: Computer, privacy.  BURNHAM: Captain-  GEORGIOU: How dare you challenge me?  BURNHAM: I apologise for my insubordination.  GEORGIOU: Don't you realise that kind of talk can destabilise a crew?  BURNHAM: Don't underestimate them. I've overseen their exercises. They're ready for battle.  GEORGIOU: Battle is not a simulation. It's blood and screams and funerals. I taught you better than this. We don't start shooting on a hunch, and we don't take innocent lives. Period. I understand your history with the Klingons.  BURNHAM: My commitment to this course of action is not emotional. We target its neck, cut off its head-  GEORGIOU: You're still injured. You're not thinking clearly.  BURNHAM: Thousands of lives will be lost because of failure to act.  GEORGIOU: Whose lives? Victims of your imaginary war?  BURNHAM: And your life, Captain. Yours.  GEORGIOU: Stand down, Commander Burnham. That's an order.  BURNHAM: You're right. I may not be myself.  GEORGIOU: Easy, Michael.  (She knocks Georgiou out with a Vulcan neck-pinch.)  BURNHAM: ... I'm sorry.

So this is the big event that makes Michael an infamous mutineer and kicks off the whole show. But cut to four seasons (and a thousand years) later- and she's the captain of the ship, addressing what's left of the Federation on how she thinks they should respond to a mysterious new threat (that has completely destroyed her lover's whole planet.) Much like S1 Michael, he is angry and traumatised here, and very much pushing for a preemptive strike by using the same "countless lives will be saved" argument. And against his wishes and approval, here's what she chooses to say in her speech:

BURNHAM: Our experiences shape us. That's what makes this so difficult. [...] Before we head down a path that could lead to destruction on both sides, we need to reach first for understanding. For generations, the Federation has sought out new life, new civilisations, not to destroy but to connect, even in the face of uncertainty. And we are not all Federation members, but those ideals can still guide us. Especially now. We cannot let fear define us in this moment. We need to decide. Who do we want to be? Do we lash out blindly, no matter the risk? Or do we proceed thoughtfully? Work toward the future we want to live in? I believe that's who we are. We wouldn't be here otherwise.  BOOK (in front of everyone listening): We don't have the luxury of asking philosophical questions right now. What matters is the actions we take. Stopping this thing today.  BURNHAM: There are different points of view in this room, I know. But I hope that when a decision is reached, whatever it is, that we can hold together. That we can move forward as a united front.  BOOK: Some differences are too great. Sometimes you just have to accept the consequences of that.

So obviously Michael is now in Georgiou's place- and Book is playing her old part (and pretty well, lol- the episode literally ends with him stealing a shuttle behind her back and doing what he wants, just like Micheal did in S1!) But what I find most interesting is her echoing Georgiou's philosophy in other ways, too.

S4E10 (talking to the Federation President):

BURNHAM: Thank you for sharing the news.  RILLAK: We could have told them together. Why did you want me to do it?  BURNHAM: In times of crisis, people need to know that their leaders are not rattled by uncertainty or overwhelming odds. They need to know that there is a plan, that they'll be okay. You're their president. You can give them confidence, a sense of security. You're my president, too.  RILLAK: Oh... I'm grateful we had the chance to... connect before we approach Species Ten-C.  BURNHAM: If we can't communicate with each other, what chance do we have with them? 

It really goes to show how far she's come, and how much she's benefitted from learning to accept all parts of herself- her Vulcan upbringing, her Federation ideals, her Human family, her Starfleet training, and her bonds with the crew- which are, of course, completely inextricable from her relationship with Georgiou. Instead of warring within her, these different aspects of her are now working together to make her the best possible version of herself- she's learnt both from her own mistakes, and others'. Basically- what a character!

[miminmimikyu]

I think it's definitely possible to have sci-fi with good, complex serialised storytelling in 10-13 episodes (The Expanse and Orphan Black for example), but I think it just didn't quite work for Picard and, to a lesser extent, Disco, because they were

a) too ambitious with the storylines they wanted to put into a 10-13 episode season (but I think Discovery managed it in S1) and didn't carry threads over to the next season, leading to breakneck/uneven pacing

and

b) by going for fully serialised storytelling (as opposed to voy's overarching plots or ds9's multi-season arcs) they lost Trek Magic by ditching the weird/silly/poignant standalone/breather episodes

Ironically I think Star Trek: Prodigy (which I've seen so many people write off as "too Star Wars-y") did manage to make it work despite it also being written for a much younger audience unfamiliar with Trek. (and with 2x10 24 minute episodes its total season runtime is similar to disco and picard + with the 8 month gap between part 1 and part 2 it was effectively like 2 10 episode seasons).

I've read a lot of times that people complain about the pacing in Discovery and Picard and that it's too fast.

Could it bei because they only have like 13 episodes per season?

I mean, imagine Enterprise would've tried to pull off the Xindi Arc in 10 episodes. Or ds9 the dominion war in just one season.

It would've sucked too, I think

[pleasesmenoend]

This is a sorta expansion on an old drawing i did of the Orion woman from TOS. It’s kind of hard for me to explain. Human women aren’t the only aliens who dream about exploring space, so it makes me sad when some Star Trek aliens like Orions are used to appeal to the male writer’s fantasies. I was really moved watching Lower Decks and learning about Tendi’s feelings about being an Orion in Starfleet, considering i’d drawn an Orion dreaming of space long before I’d watched the show. Seems like things are changing!!!

ID: An illustration of an Orion woman floating through an orange and pink setting with beams of blue, green, and purple streaming from an illuminated disco ball. Inside the disco ball is the shadow of the USS Enterprise. The woman has short black hair and is wearing earrings and a patterned dress. She is looking sadly up at the disco ball and reaching towards it. There is a ribbon of light coming from the disco ball and it is spiraling around her. The caption reads “Space Girls Dream About Space Too” in a 60s font.

ID Credit: @raydrawsdaly

[icantspellthings]

I think for Star Trek 4 (AOS) they should just remake TMP because think about it the ending for Beyond sets up such a good jumping point for a TMP remake. Like yeah, they're on their whole 5 year deep space mission thing, and in the beginning Kirk was considering becoming a Vice Admiral, and Spock was thinking of going to New Vulcan, but it all gets resolved in the end or does it? What if after the 5 year mision, Spock does run away to New Vulcan to do Kohlinar, and Kirk takes the Vice Admiral position at Yorktown. Like it's literally the perfect setup for a TMP remake, and I'm honestly curious about how they're going to change it to fit the AOS character.

Plus Chris Pine is older now, so we don't need to see him getting beaten up in every movie anymore, just let him be old man vice admiral, and let him wear glasses too. And I think we deserve to see Zachary Quinto in that cunty getting back with my divorced husband Vulcan robes. But all in all this is actually a thinly veiled desire of mine to see Karl Urban in the fuck ass Disco outfit with the necklace and beard Bones wore.

[chiisana-sukima]

nine people i want to get to know better

Thank you for the tag, @slutsons-blog! Starting a new post because I'm autistic and therefore mostly only care about the "Current Obsession" question, and want to ramble excessively as usual in that one.

Last song: Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team: Pokemon Square because I'm currently playing Pokemon Mystery Dungeon with my daughter. Otherwise I honestly couldn't tell you. Whatever was on in my car.

Fave color: Purple

Currently watching: Star Trek Discovery

Last movie: Knives Out

Sweet/spicy/savory: Sweet, tart, salty

Relationship: married x 27 years

Last thing I googled: the word "dependent", for spelling assistance. which is a good thing because I spelled it "dependant".

Current Obsession: it's been spn since 2016. Truly we are the Hotel California of media franchises. I did recently play Disco Elysium twice in a row in quick succession, and I follow the DE tag. I can't recommend the game highly enough.... but I can feel my Special Interest-level obsession with it fading already. Spn has never faded even a tiny bit and I wonder if it ever will.

@slutsons-blog I feel after reading that you're watching spn for the first time, that I did you a bit of a disservice with my Sam takes to you before in that I mostly talked about Sam's evolution as a character as the show goes on and very little about him from the first five seasons.

Gotta be honest and tell you that although I liked both brothers all along, I was a Dean girl until the end of s6/beginning of s7, when the balance of who gets whumped the most started shifting and my subconscious suddenly decided to switch allegiances. It's not that I liked Dean any less; my id just loves a sopping wet pathetic kitten of a man who has been sexually abused, and Sam got suddenly way more kitteny and pathetic after the Cage. So I don't actually have a ton of takes on "what to love about Sam in the early seasons". I do love early seasons Sam too--she is my beautiful baby princess--but my early seasons takes are a lot more inchoate.

I count myself lucky about my id's sudden defection though, because I think we have limited control of who our blorbos are, and having Dean as a blorbo is a tough row to hoe as the later seasons go along. You know how you noticed that in s6, Dean suddenly gets a lot more assholey without apparent reason? Unfortunately he never gets better again, and in fact keeps getting worse and worse as the years go by, until by the last seasons he is openly far more abusive to their joint child(-in-an-adult body) than John was to him and Sam. It's a realistic picture of what can happen when trauma keeps piling up on people, but it's also honestly pretty distressing, especially if he's your blorbo.

If one is in it for the ship, there's some good destiel content in the later seasons, but if you're in it for Dean, you're left either 1) dealing with the fact he's got extremely significant interpersonal problems that he never gets much of anywhere on solving and that negatively impact his chosen family in profound ways, or 2) pretending he's the same character he was in s1 and Sam is the same Sam from s1, only more boring, and Dean is just trying to put up with him because he was brainwashed by John (or ig 3- something in the middle between those two. But that seldom seems to happen in practice for whatever reason). These two versions of the show are poorly compatible, and that's how the Sam girls and the Dean girls end up in isolated silos. A few people manage to live in both, but not many.

Anyway, I feel like without the context of how Sam and Dean change in the mid to late seasons, the two fics I recc'd as Sam character studies are going to seem insanely Dean-critical, so if you haven't read them yet, you might want to wait until s10. In the meantime, the general recs are fun reads and hopefully do a good job of showcasing both characters earlier on.

Tagging (but I would be a huge hypocrite if I didn't specify there's no pressure to respond, since I almost always fail at responding to tag games myself): @adihildilid @aliusfrater @quietwingsinthesky @sammygender @ardentpoop

@peanutbutterandbananasandwichs @schizosamwincester @normalbrothershow @jellybracelet.

[lizardsfromspace]

The Claim: they've erased Discovery from canon. It's not longer canon! CONFIRMED! They announced Star Trek Discovery was WIPED from canon, even though it has one ongoing spin-off, has a spin-off movie set to debut, another spin-off series filming, and has been referenced extensively in every other modern Star Trek show, and the producers and writers of it are still in charge of modern Star Trek, they definitely made it non-canon just to appease internet people who are mad at if for reasons that are definitely not just racism and misogyny

The Article: not linked in this tweet! Odd! Why would you not want to link your source?

The Evidence: Lower Decks featured a cameo by the alternate Klingon makeup

This brief cameo PROVES Discovery is in an alternate universe.

Which wouldn't make it non-canon. After all the Kelvin timeline movies are set in an alternate universe, and they're unambiguously canon to mainline Trek.

On a Watsonian level, they could've become a Disco Klingon from another universe while they still exist in the main one. Or maybe in another universe that's what that Klingon looks like. It's canon that Klingons have multiple appearances due to the virus from Enterprise's final season, so why not?

But confirmed! The show they definitely didn't just hate for having a woman of color as its star is no longer canon because of a brief Easter egg in a cartoon! Multiple sites are reporting this!

Discovery is no longer canon! Thanks, one second long joke, for giving shouty man nerds a chance to Make Trek Great Again

One fun aspect of this is that you can tell the first article I capped was written by someone not really familiar with the show himself who was just copying this other article; because the earlier one - linked & paraphrased frequently in the article the alcoholic film screamer shared - says the show was retooled after season two, and the quote-filled article mangles this as "the show was sent to the future for the last two seasons". Which isn't true - they spend three seasons in the future, not two. The rabid internet nerds aren't even watching the shows they're quaking with rage about, they're just copying from each other. "Why don't these networks not care about pleasing people who provably don't watch their shows? HIRE NON-FANS PLAGIARIZING OTHER NON-FANS!!!!"

The wild part is, these pieces present it as if the only flaw in Discovery is that they changed the Klingon's makeup design. This alone is enough to exile it from canon. You may think "wait, but the show already addressed it, first by having them grow hair in season 2 of Disco & explaining why they hadn't, and then by restoring the original makeup in SNW", and they have an explanation: SNW is still canon bc it's not canon to Disco, the show it references many times, because it's actually about a slightly different Enterprise in an alternate timeline, since establishing two parallel Enterprises that are 90% the same but in different universes, and never directly stating this except via buried clues in a different spinoff, makes a lot more sense than saying a popular TV show you don't personally like exists

It's funny how they harp on about how the Klingons look and ignore other changes. SNW has turned the Gorn from an allegory - seeming aggressors who turn out to be the ones who were invaded, and whose Captain is clearly set up as an analogue for Kirk - into pure evil slaving xenomorph knock-offs who not only have zero depth or meaning, but who are proudly Just Evil. Seems like a much more important change than the Klingons having somewhat different heads, but I've seen basically none of that crowd comment on the Gorn except to say they're Totally Badass Now, while they're still so enraged by a change in Klingon makeup design that happened seven years ago & that was retconned five years ago & abandoned fully since over a year ago they're writing long articles analyzing how a throwaway gag in a cartoon is a secret sign a show they dislike for totally not racist reasons is non-canon. After years of speculation that Kurtzman was secretly fired, they've now just evolved into full on Trekanon. Incredible

[flightypineapple]

I haven’t been on tumblr in ages and I need places to scream about stuff so please hmu if you love talking about Star Trek cause I think that’s the biggest fandom change for me in the past 10+ years of my tumblr existence (yes I am “old” lol).

Seriously please let me know if you love trek and talk about it so I can follow you. I’m a fan of all the series, but DS9 holds my heart of the 90s run (but truly I love them all). And i love all the recent shows too - even disco so miss me with any discovery hate. Thanks much! 🖖

[fluorescentbrains]

i think new trek gets held to kind of an unfair standard (the double edged sword of nostalgia hanging over it always) but the thing that they are really doing wrong in my opinion is constantly re-treading old ground and revisiting “classic” settings and characters rather than building on anything that happened in 90s trek. (st picard kind of almost tries to go forward? but it can only do it while centering a classic character.) or it does what disco did and goes sideways around the issue by jumping 900 years into the future where much of the world is unrecognizable and none of what they do really affects the rest of canon. it’s kind of ironic because what i’d REALLY like to see is a trek show in the “classic” format, with a captain and a recurring crew, going about poking nebulas and such, but with a new cast in a post-war timeline. (so, not strange new worlds! sorry!) and when they revisit other trek canon, it’s the parts of canon that were introduced post-tng. but it’s like someone in paramount thinks no one would watch this?? idk maybe they wouldn’t maybe TV really has changed that much. but lower decks is closest they’ve come to this and it’s been a big success. so.

[thatseventiesbitch]

Well guys & gals & non-binary pals - it's here. Another installment of That '70s Show original scripts! This week features S6xE20 Squeezebox.

Not a ton of changes from script to episode in this case, but as always, read on for my dutiful summary! (FYI the cast signatures are a re-print - though still cool!) I absolutely love reading through these and noting the different lines - I hope you all enjoy learning these details as much as I do! 😊

First up: confirmation that the Slurpee Slut's name is Chloe, for the record. It was never mentioned in the episode, though she was listed this way in the credits.

The first (small) change is Eric's additional line when Donna asks about Chloe/Slurpee Slut in the opening scene: "They're all crazy in that business, it's all that slurping." 🤣

Next we have an extra dose of "LOL Kitty is an alcoholic!"... sadly a theme this episode.

There was a longer exchange between Bob/Kitty/Red re: Bob 'welcoming Pam to the house'.

This extended interaction between Eric and Mitch. Apparently photon torpedos are from Star Trek, not Star Wars.

Also - Mitch bables about disco (??) and Kelso doubles down on his burn after learning what braille is. 🙄

Hyde and Red's scenes in the Toyota discussing the Pam situation were pretty much word-for-word, except for this added line from Hyde: "But it's like she's teasing us. It's haunting me, like a sexy, topless ghost."

This cut Eric/Jackie friendship moment 😩. Well, kinda. *lol*

More *lolz, alcoholism!* jokes. Kitty's not interested in the cake Pam brings until she learns it's a rum cake.

This is after its revealed that the guys saw Pam's breasts and Red asks Kitty what she expected him to do: rip the eyes from his head? She says yes, *lol*

Pam's story is slightly different, too. In the episode she says, "This isn't the first time my body has caused a fight. One time I caused a riot on a topless beach in Venezuela. Imagine what you saw, only all tanned and oiled."

In the episode, the scene ends after the guys walk out. In the script, Kitty and Jackie have the following exchange afterwards:

Kitty feeling jealous of Pamela winning her teen son's friends' affection -> 😵‍💫

Next up, Mitch originally tells Donna that not only does he think Eric and Chloe had sex, but that they probably had sex on Donna's bed while laughing at her (🙄)

In the final basement scene, Eric is less offended by Kelso's burn about him and more intrigued by the thought of Donna and Pam hooking up. 😂

I liked Eric's addition here about the time Donna had mono.

Their final exchange where they make-up is also slightly different from the episode:

And that's all she wrote!

Thanks for reading along with me, your host, @thatseventiesbitch!

Other Scripts I've Posted:

S2xE20 "Kiss of Death" S2xE22 "Jackie Moves On" S2xE23 "Holy Crap!" S2xE26 "Moon Over Point Place" S5xE21 "Trampled Under Foot" S7xE8 "Angie"

[star-trek-fandom-confessions]

#1106

Star Trek has been in my life since I was a very small child (Star Trek fandom runs in my family). For as long as I can remember, I have detested Kirk and Spock. I think it was because when I was a small child, I hated how they always got to be the heroes and nobody else – particularly the female characters – got to be.   Decades and AOS and Disco&SNW versions later and having some time ago discovered my own love of Trek through DS9 and then loving many of the newer shows, I still strongly dislike Kirk and Spock. All versions of them. I will put up with them, but they’re always my least favourite characters when they show up in anything. I love SNW (and all its wonderful female characters who do get to be the hero from time to time), but when I see people wanting more Kirk in the show and more of an emphasis on building the Spock & Kirk and/or Kirk/Spock relationship, I want to despair because there is plenty enough of both characters already and I don't want more. What is particularly annoying though is that if I mention casually to someone outside of fandom that I like Star Trek, everyone immediately jumps to TOS and its two iconic characters Kirk and Spock. And again, I want to despair. (I’m sure people are able to point out occasional times in TOS when people other than Kirk and Spock got to save the day, but it's not adult me you need to argue with, it's five year old me).

Note from mod: changed the confession as per op's wishes, please reach out again if you want more editing.

[spocks-husband]

🌟 Exciting News! 🌟

Hello friends!!

I'm in a bit of a tight spot financially right now, and I'd really really appreciate some help, and as such I'm so so thrilled to announce that I'll be opening up commissions for both fanfiction and visual art! If you've ever wanted a custom piece or a personalized story from me, now's your chance!

Here's the breakdown of pricing:

Fanfiction Commissions:

- Short Story (up to 700 words): $10

- Medium Story (700 - 2500 words): $40

- Long Story (2500+ words): $80 (+40 for every 1000 words beyond 2500)

What I will write:

•Angst

•Dead Dove

•Smut

•Basically anything :3

What I won't write:

•Spuhura

•Spapel

•Zutara

•BatCat

•Basically any ship I don't like lol sorry

•Right-Wing content

Visual Art Commissions:

- Sketches:

•Bust: $2

•Waist-up: $6

•Full Body: $8

- Lineart:

•Bust: $5

•Waist-up: $10

•Full Body: $18

- Full-color Illustration:

•Bust: $20

•Waist-Up: $45

•Full Body: $60

•Full Ref Sheet: $150

What I will draw:

•OCs

•Self inserts/personas

What I won't draw:

•NSFW (mostly just cause I don't know how my bad ☹️)

Fandoms I work in:

•Star Trek (TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, PIC, DISCO)

•Avatar: The Last Airbender

•The Legend of Korra

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