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t-rina · 1 year ago
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torn between “she looks so proud bc she’s finally married to saru” and “she looks so proud bc she fan finally call michael an official part of her family”
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rinshairandthoughts · 2 years ago
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Threw on some color. ♥
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gaylos-lobos · 1 year ago
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star trek needs to decenter the west
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squireofgeekdom · 5 months ago
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yfnsm Thoughts so far
tl;dr I really like its Spider Man choices, unfortunately the Don't Forget The MCU of it all is increasingly making me want to fight an exec in an Arby's parking lot, and despite really liking their Peter I continue to stand by that this should have been Miles' show
I am really enjoying the characters, I like their Peter and Spider-Man so far especially in the friendly neighborhood cares about protecting people So Much (more than getting the bad guy(TM) and cares about protecting even people who are doing bad guy(TM) stuff) and second chances and fairness, it's all stuff I really like about the character and it's really nice that the creative team seems to like what I like about him, Nico is great absolutely no notes, I so absolutely feel for her, I love Lonnie and I love the narrative foiling they're doing with Peter (though I think they brought out the Tombstone name too quickly), their Harry gives very queer vibes which means they understood the assignment, this is always and forever a Norman Osborn hater house but I think this is the most I've ever enjoyed watching a take on Norman except for the moments where they very effectively have me cringing back from the screen like I'm watching a horror movie practically shouting 'peter get out of there'. I'm excited about this Otto and his little twink boyfriend I mean lab assistant.
I'm very here for the stories they're setting themselves up to tell and the big swings they're taking - like, Harry finding out Peter is Spider-Man within like, a day? days? Of having first met Peter and not even properly knowing his name is Such a fucking swing it is so funny to me, Personally. Raimi, Webb, 2017, like everybody does the Peter|Spider-Man and Harry secret identity drama and conflict and they just chucked that Right out the window and tbh if I had to follow up how compelling 2017 made that drama I too would also be like maybe I just don't. I'm very here for what we've seen of the two of them so far. And they've got plenty of potential for friendship drama! The way Nico feels worried like she's going to be left behind as Peter's friend I feel for her! and Peter genuinely trying but also trying to be a good friend to this new friend Harry! and whatever tension they might play on with new friend knows about secret identity stuff when his old friend doesn't. The dramatic tragedy already being set up with Lonnie. And I mean it's not like they've ruled out the classics of Harry being pulled in different directions when things break bad with Norman.
I really like what they are doing with this as a Spider-Man show. I really increasingly don't love what they are doing with this as a 'this is in a MCU adjacent universe! Don't forget about the MCU of it all' like. The little nods are fine-to-whatever but like. Dear god why did they think anyone wanted to think about cacw disk horse again. We get it y'all hate the way spider man was brought into cacw you hate the iron man of it all of the MCU spider man movies we get it man we went over this shit years ago. Write the grumpy meta and the fic like everyone else who was annoyed with it has already. Years ago. Marvel got the rights and immediately had to lick the donut to go MINE about it that is literally all it is. It's jarring to be watching this show and then suddenly being slapped by a 2016 text post about blah blah blah. Also the more I think about it the more it makes me dread that this goes hard on the parallel universe track and we like. Have to deal with the Snap again like. No. Can we not. Can we please have a Spider-Man show. I hope I will be wrong, or maybe I'll be right but they'll handle it so well that I'll eat my words but like. I'm glad it's not a prequel show but also. If it is going to keep being this closely tied to being parallel to the MCU and so very annoying about it. I almost would prefer a prequel than having to deal with cacw-and-onwards slapping me in the face like a rotten fish. I hope I'm wrong and this is executive demands/annoyed response to executive demands and will get shaken off in a second season and the show can be allowed to stand on its own because the spider man show they've got is really fun so far!
That said... It does come back to what I've tag rambled about this show about the 'this should've been the (first) Miles Morales Spider Man show' of it all (like 3 different cartoon shows with Miles as a supporting Spider, the Spiderverse inspiration with a lot of this shows' visuals, and Walloping Websnappers also broke down some really interesting points about how various plot elements for this Peter are more of a match for Miles' stories) and it feels like if there hadn't been this initial call for a MCU Spidey prequel / the continued insistence that it still be tied to the MCU, it would have been Miles' show, which like. It's past time for it And as a bonus it wouldn't have had all the tying to MCU problems I just griped about.
Anyway. Still mostly having fun and excited and interested. If you're also watching this show please come talk to me about it if you'd like! (You think I rambled here, I have so much more to say XD )
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miminmimikyu · 2 years ago
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I think it's definitely possible to have sci-fi with good, complex serialised storytelling in 10-13 episodes (The Expanse and Orphan Black for example), but I think it just didn't quite work for Picard and, to a lesser extent, Disco, because they were
a) too ambitious with the storylines they wanted to put into a 10-13 episode season (but I think Discovery managed it in S1) and didn't carry threads over to the next season, leading to breakneck/uneven pacing
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b) by going for fully serialised storytelling (as opposed to voy's overarching plots or ds9's multi-season arcs) they lost Trek Magic by ditching the weird/silly/poignant standalone/breather episodes
Ironically I think Star Trek: Prodigy (which I've seen so many people write off as "too Star Wars-y") did manage to make it work despite it also being written for a much younger audience unfamiliar with Trek. (and with 2x10 24 minute episodes its total season runtime is similar to disco and picard + with the 8 month gap between part 1 and part 2 it was effectively like 2 10 episode seasons).
I've read a lot of times that people complain about the pacing in Discovery and Picard and that it's too fast.
Could it bei because they only have like 13 episodes per season?
I mean, imagine Enterprise would've tried to pull off the Xindi Arc in 10 episodes. Or ds9 the dominion war in just one season.
It would've sucked too, I think
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scubastranaut · 1 year ago
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This is a sorta expansion on an old drawing i did of the Orion woman from TOS. It’s kind of hard for me to explain. Human women aren’t the only aliens who dream about exploring space, so it makes me sad when some Star Trek aliens like Orions are used to appeal to the male writer’s fantasies. I was really moved watching Lower Decks and learning about Tendi’s feelings about being an Orion in Starfleet, considering i’d drawn an Orion dreaming of space long before I’d watched the show. Seems like things are changing!!!
ID: An illustration of an Orion woman floating through an orange and pink setting with beams of blue, green, and purple streaming from an illuminated disco ball. Inside the disco ball is the shadow of the USS Enterprise. The woman has short black hair and is wearing earrings and a patterned dress. She is looking sadly up at the disco ball and reaching towards it. There is a ribbon of light coming from the disco ball and it is spiraling around her. The caption reads “Space Girls Dream About Space Too” in a 60s font.
ID Credit: @raydrawsdaly
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fandomtrumpshate · 5 months ago
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chiisana-sukima · 10 months ago
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Thank you for the tag, @slutsons-blog! Starting a new post because I'm autistic and therefore mostly only care about the "Current Obsession" question, and want to ramble excessively as usual in that one.
Last song: Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team: Pokemon Square because I'm currently playing Pokemon Mystery Dungeon with my daughter. Otherwise I honestly couldn't tell you. Whatever was on in my car.
Fave color: Purple
Currently watching: Star Trek Discovery
Last movie: Knives Out
Sweet/spicy/savory: Sweet, tart, salty
Relationship: married x 27 years
Last thing I googled: the word "dependent", for spelling assistance. which is a good thing because I spelled it "dependant".
Current Obsession: it's been spn since 2016. Truly we are the Hotel California of media franchises. I did recently play Disco Elysium twice in a row in quick succession, and I follow the DE tag. I can't recommend the game highly enough.... but I can feel my Special Interest-level obsession with it fading already. Spn has never faded even a tiny bit and I wonder if it ever will.
@slutsons-blog I feel after reading that you're watching spn for the first time, that I did you a bit of a disservice with my Sam takes to you before in that I mostly talked about Sam's evolution as a character as the show goes on and very little about him from the first five seasons.
Gotta be honest and tell you that although I liked both brothers all along, I was a Dean girl until the end of s6/beginning of s7, when the balance of who gets whumped the most started shifting and my subconscious suddenly decided to switch allegiances. It's not that I liked Dean any less; my id just loves a sopping wet pathetic kitten of a man who has been sexually abused, and Sam got suddenly way more kitteny and pathetic after the Cage. So I don't actually have a ton of takes on "what to love about Sam in the early seasons". I do love early seasons Sam too--she is my beautiful baby princess--but my early seasons takes are a lot more inchoate.
I count myself lucky about my id's sudden defection though, because I think we have limited control of who our blorbos are, and having Dean as a blorbo is a tough row to hoe as the later seasons go along. You know how you noticed that in s6, Dean suddenly gets a lot more assholey without apparent reason? Unfortunately he never gets better again, and in fact keeps getting worse and worse as the years go by, until by the last seasons he is openly far more abusive to their joint child(-in-an-adult body) than John was to him and Sam. It's a realistic picture of what can happen when trauma keeps piling up on people, but it's also honestly pretty distressing, especially if he's your blorbo.
If one is in it for the ship, there's some good destiel content in the later seasons, but if you're in it for Dean, you're left either 1) dealing with the fact he's got extremely significant interpersonal problems that he never gets much of anywhere on solving and that negatively impact his chosen family in profound ways, or 2) pretending he's the same character he was in s1 and Sam is the same Sam from s1, only more boring, and Dean is just trying to put up with him because he was brainwashed by John (or ig 3- something in the middle between those two. But that seldom seems to happen in practice for whatever reason). These two versions of the show are poorly compatible, and that's how the Sam girls and the Dean girls end up in isolated silos. A few people manage to live in both, but not many.
Anyway, I feel like without the context of how Sam and Dean change in the mid to late seasons, the two fics I recc'd as Sam character studies are going to seem insanely Dean-critical, so if you haven't read them yet, you might want to wait until s10. In the meantime, the general recs are fun reads and hopefully do a good job of showcasing both characters earlier on.
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lizardsfromspace · 6 months ago
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The Claim: they've erased Discovery from canon. It's not longer canon! CONFIRMED! They announced Star Trek Discovery was WIPED from canon, even though it has one ongoing spin-off, has a spin-off movie set to debut, another spin-off series filming, and has been referenced extensively in every other modern Star Trek show, and the producers and writers of it are still in charge of modern Star Trek, they definitely made it non-canon just to appease internet people who are mad at if for reasons that are definitely not just racism and misogyny
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The Article: not linked in this tweet! Odd! Why would you not want to link your source?
The Evidence: Lower Decks featured a cameo by the alternate Klingon makeup
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This brief cameo PROVES Discovery is in an alternate universe.
Which wouldn't make it non-canon. After all the Kelvin timeline movies are set in an alternate universe, and they're unambiguously canon to mainline Trek.
On a Watsonian level, they could've become a Disco Klingon from another universe while they still exist in the main one. Or maybe in another universe that's what that Klingon looks like. It's canon that Klingons have multiple appearances due to the virus from Enterprise's final season, so why not?
But confirmed! The show they definitely didn't just hate for having a woman of color as its star is no longer canon because of a brief Easter egg in a cartoon! Multiple sites are reporting this!
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Discovery is no longer canon! Thanks, one second long joke, for giving shouty man nerds a chance to Make Trek Great Again
One fun aspect of this is that you can tell the first article I capped was written by someone not really familiar with the show himself who was just copying this other article; because the earlier one - linked & paraphrased frequently in the article the alcoholic film screamer shared - says the show was retooled after season two, and the quote-filled article mangles this as "the show was sent to the future for the last two seasons". Which isn't true - they spend three seasons in the future, not two. The rabid internet nerds aren't even watching the shows they're quaking with rage about, they're just copying from each other. "Why don't these networks not care about pleasing people who provably don't watch their shows? HIRE NON-FANS PLAGIARIZING OTHER NON-FANS!!!!"
The wild part is, these pieces present it as if the only flaw in Discovery is that they changed the Klingon's makeup design. This alone is enough to exile it from canon. You may think "wait, but the show already addressed it, first by having them grow hair in season 2 of Disco & explaining why they hadn't, and then by restoring the original makeup in SNW", and they have an explanation: SNW is still canon bc it's not canon to Disco, the show it references many times, because it's actually about a slightly different Enterprise in an alternate timeline, since establishing two parallel Enterprises that are 90% the same but in different universes, and never directly stating this except via buried clues in a different spinoff, makes a lot more sense than saying a popular TV show you don't personally like exists
It's funny how they harp on about how the Klingons look and ignore other changes. SNW has turned the Gorn from an allegory - seeming aggressors who turn out to be the ones who were invaded, and whose Captain is clearly set up as an analogue for Kirk - into pure evil slaving xenomorph knock-offs who not only have zero depth or meaning, but who are proudly Just Evil. Seems like a much more important change than the Klingons having somewhat different heads, but I've seen basically none of that crowd comment on the Gorn except to say they're Totally Badass Now, while they're still so enraged by a change in Klingon makeup design that happened seven years ago & that was retconned five years ago & abandoned fully since over a year ago they're writing long articles analyzing how a throwaway gag in a cartoon is a secret sign a show they dislike for totally not racist reasons is non-canon. After years of speculation that Kurtzman was secretly fired, they've now just evolved into full on Trekanon. Incredible
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flightypineapple · 2 years ago
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I haven’t been on tumblr in ages and I need places to scream about stuff so please hmu if you love talking about Star Trek cause I think that’s the biggest fandom change for me in the past 10+ years of my tumblr existence (yes I am “old” lol).
Seriously please let me know if you love trek and talk about it so I can follow you. I’m a fan of all the series, but DS9 holds my heart of the 90s run (but truly I love them all). And i love all the recent shows too - even disco so miss me with any discovery hate. Thanks much! 🖖
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thatseventiesbitch · 6 months ago
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Well guys & gals & non-binary pals - it's here. Another installment of That '70s Show original scripts! This week features S6xE20 Squeezebox.
Not a ton of changes from script to episode in this case, but as always, read on for my dutiful summary! (FYI the cast signatures are a re-print - though still cool!) I absolutely love reading through these and noting the different lines - I hope you all enjoy learning these details as much as I do! 😊
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First up: confirmation that the Slurpee Slut's name is Chloe, for the record. It was never mentioned in the episode, though she was listed this way in the credits.
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The first (small) change is Eric's additional line when Donna asks about Chloe/Slurpee Slut in the opening scene: "They're all crazy in that business, it's all that slurping." 🤣
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Next we have an extra dose of "LOL Kitty is an alcoholic!"... sadly a theme this episode.
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There was a longer exchange between Bob/Kitty/Red re: Bob 'welcoming Pam to the house'.
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This extended interaction between Eric and Mitch. Apparently photon torpedos are from Star Trek, not Star Wars.
Also - Mitch bables about disco (??) and Kelso doubles down on his burn after learning what braille is. 🙄
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Hyde and Red's scenes in the Toyota discussing the Pam situation were pretty much word-for-word, except for this added line from Hyde: "But it's like she's teasing us. It's haunting me, like a sexy, topless ghost."
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This cut Eric/Jackie friendship moment 😩. Well, kinda. *lol*
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More *lolz, alcoholism!* jokes. Kitty's not interested in the cake Pam brings until she learns it's a rum cake.
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This is after its revealed that the guys saw Pam's breasts and Red asks Kitty what she expected him to do: rip the eyes from his head? She says yes, *lol*
Pam's story is slightly different, too. In the episode she says, "This isn't the first time my body has caused a fight. One time I caused a riot on a topless beach in Venezuela. Imagine what you saw, only all tanned and oiled."
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In the episode, the scene ends after the guys walk out. In the script, Kitty and Jackie have the following exchange afterwards:
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Kitty feeling jealous of Pamela winning her teen son's friends' affection -> 😵‍💫
Next up, Mitch originally tells Donna that not only does he think Eric and Chloe had sex, but that they probably had sex on Donna's bed while laughing at her (🙄)
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In the final basement scene, Eric is less offended by Kelso's burn about him and more intrigued by the thought of Donna and Pam hooking up. 😂
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I liked Eric's addition here about the time Donna had mono.
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Their final exchange where they make-up is also slightly different from the episode:
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And that's all she wrote!
Thanks for reading along with me, your host, @thatseventiesbitch!
Other Scripts I've Posted:
S2xE20 "Kiss of Death" S2xE22 "Jackie Moves On" S2xE23 "Holy Crap!" S2xE26 "Moon Over Point Place" S5xE21 "Trampled Under Foot" S7xE8 "Angie"
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Sign-Ups (The Updated List)
Hello, lovely people! Can you believe it’s already mid-April? May 1st is so close and I’m almost out of my terrible job – so things are definitely bright!
If you’re wondering, sign-ups are still OPEN, and they’ll be up to April 30! So, it’s not too late to join! As you can see, there are not empty slots (yay!) but multiple entries per day are allowed, so no worries!
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I’ll be posting a sign-up list weekly (if there are updates) or, if there are no changes, I’ll be reblogging the existent one.
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Date Name Fandom
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May 4: @coffeeblack75 - VOY & @enterprise-come-in - SNW
May 5: @pc-corner – SNW & @enterprise-come-in – SNW
May 6: @marymoss1971 – Section 31 & @mia-cooper - VOY
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May 8: @melethinnil – Prodigy
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May 10 @grissomesque – VOY
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May 13: @lipstickonmylabcoat – TBD & @lesbian-love-letter - VOY
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stra-tek · 8 days ago
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I love Ex Astris Scientia because of their frustration with sizing. Especially the sizing of the kitbash ships.
I had battles with them back in 2013 over the size of the reboot movie Enterprise, which to this day they insist is the size of the classic movie ship despite it being pretty clear she's intended to be much, much bigger⬇️
I've long, long since stopped caring about such things, though. Star Trek ships are magical places which change and warp to fit whatever today's episode or movie needs inside and that's all they'll ever be😂 Voyager's shuttlebay never looked the same twice.
Excelsior needs to be twice as big as she's supposed to be in order to fit all the decks shown in her window rows. The Klingon bird of prey is always the same size, whether next to the old small Enterprise or the giant Next Gen version.
BTS design documents for Strange New Worlds' engine room literally say "scale cheat required to fit" under the cutaway diagram!
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And that's not counting the full-on insanity of Discovery's third season😂 (I think they write off Disco as an alternate universe anyway)
So... yeah. To be that hardcore, trying to establish sizes based on random jumbled ship parts with broken sizes to begin with, must be soul destroying.
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multiverserift · 1 year ago
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It's Star Trek time, so I watch a lot of Star Trek and write about it. You should too.
Today I saw the question "why does Star Trek: Discovery draw so much fire?"
It's quite easy. It was simply not what people were familiar with, and expected.
The Star Trek Formula™ is rougly: Ensemble Crew finds problem, beams over, solves problem. Next week, next problem. Of course there are strays from the path, but more or less, all Trek followed this.
Discovery doesn't have an ensemble crew. It has a main character and secondary characters. It has less Story of the Week™ and more serial storytelling. Well, this is how much TV stuff is structured today. Less episodes, less filler, more steamlined 8-hour-movies.
Nevermind that Discovery has some where excellent Star Trek moments, the dissapointment over all the changes kicked off a whole landslide of memetic feedback.
Which also fed into that was the casual racism ("why does it have to be a black woman???"), sexism ("why does it have to be a black woman???"), toxic views of emotions ("Burnham cries all the time!!!", which is funny because Ash Tyler cries way more, and I see no internet rambos giving him shit over that), casual fatshaming ("Tilly fat lol").
But I really think that the unprocessed, unreflected dissapointment is the core of it.
Didn't help that the New Klingons™ were somewhat debatable in style. In reality, Disco respects a lot of canon and did their homework. A lot of well done references in there. I could write a list.
What ALSO fed into it is that people simply don't like change. There are old news articles that take aim at TNG because it's simply a new crew. DS9 took a lot of fire (Black captain! Stationary station!), VOY (Woman captain! Janeway doesn't get a love interest!). Don't really know about ENT. Plenty of attacks, always. But back to Disco.
Now enter The Orville. Which gave the fanbase EXACTLY more of the Star Trek Formula™. Crew, problem of the week, ensemble cast. The fans who pit Orville against Disco also generously overlook that Seth McFarlane has his own problems.
So, bottom line: Dissapointment, unfulfilled expectations, The Orville rushing in, and all this in a culture with rising toxicity against progressive ideas.
Of course it's all a matter of taste. You don't have to like Star Trek Discovery. But if you give it a chance, there are some REALLY excellent stories, characters, space ship pr0n, sci-fi elements and other stuff in it. Also, Jett Reno. Just watch it for Jett Reno.
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#1106
Star Trek has been in my life since I was a very small child (Star Trek fandom runs in my family). For as long as I can remember, I have detested Kirk and Spock. I think it was because when I was a small child, I hated how they always got to be the heroes and nobody else – particularly the female characters – got to be.   Decades and AOS and Disco&SNW versions later and having some time ago discovered my own love of Trek through DS9 and then loving many of the newer shows, I still strongly dislike Kirk and Spock. All versions of them. I will put up with them, but they’re always my least favourite characters when they show up in anything. I love SNW (and all its wonderful female characters who do get to be the hero from time to time), but when I see people wanting more Kirk in the show and more of an emphasis on building the Spock & Kirk and/or Kirk/Spock relationship, I want to despair because there is plenty enough of both characters already and I don't want more. What is particularly annoying though is that if I mention casually to someone outside of fandom that I like Star Trek, everyone immediately jumps to TOS and its two iconic characters Kirk and Spock. And again, I want to despair. (I’m sure people are able to point out occasional times in TOS when people other than Kirk and Spock got to save the day, but it's not adult me you need to argue with, it's five year old me).
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fortheloveoflatinum · 10 months ago
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Watching Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Part the First
✨ YES to Spock with long hair. I hold out the hope we'll get a SNW version of long-haired Spock because he is beautiful even in a wig.
✨ YES to Bones calling Kirk 'Jim' because the unresolved sexual tension between them is definitely A Thing TM. And YES to Kirk saying, "I need you. Damn it, Bones. I need you. Badly." Um I don't know about you but most of the time that's how smut starts. It's as if they literally lifted the line straight from the pages of an erotica novel.
✨ Definitely yes to all the tiny lil astronauts flying about as if space-fashion hadn't changed much since the year 1979 but doing flips because it's actually 2269.
🌌 Definite NO to all the orange suits tho. I mean if imma go to space, I'm gonna want something sleek and fashionable to wear and not some clunky suit from the pre-digital era and remind me again how Discovery took place BEFORE all this.... And seemed to have better space suits....
✨ The soundtrack is literally the best part of the film so far. Other than the scene between Jim and Bones because that was kinda hot.
🌌 Just noticed that Disco reused the 'OH NO something is on an intercept course with Earth and we're the ONLY people in the entire GALAXY who can stop them.' Old trope, I guess. Tried and (sometimes) true. Always foiled. Without fail. So predictable at this point you could bet your last strip of latinum that Earth would be alright in the end. Just saying.
✨ Oooh and the little look that Kirk & McCoy exchange after Spock leaves the bridge is everything. What is our Vulcan doing? Find out in the next edition of this post, coming soon to a dashboard near you.
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Caption of the GIF for all the Captains out there who can't see it: James T. Kirk in profile, wearing one of those blue pajama uniforms from Star Trek: The Motion Picture, reaching out his hand to a bearded McCoy, who is wearing a greyish V-neck that drives up the rating of this GIF to TV-14. Kirk is seen thrusting his hand forward forcefully, and McCoy (after a moment of hesitation) takes it. End scene.
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