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My Roman empire is the fact that Jordan Frye is SO homophobic, but his characters are SO fucking gay.
WDYM this guy made Johnny Ghost? The fuck you mean Ghost and Toast are platonic? Nothing about them was platonic, ever. It's so fucking funny to me that somebody SO homophobic made someone as gay as fucking Johnny Ghost, paranormal investigator extraordinaire. Also, the rest of his fucking characters???
Ghost is queer and trans
Spencer Acachalla is queer and gender non conforming
Jimmy Casket is queer and gender non conforming
Light Zeron is probably queer
Johnny Cranky is fucking queer
And I know a lot of people probably think Papa Acachalla is straight, but in his 120 something years of living, he has DEFINITELY kissed a few men.
He's so homophobic, but is yet to make a straight character. That will never not be funny to me. He can pretend all he wants that these guys are straight, they absolutely fucking are not.
I also feel like a small part of why Katrina exists was for him to try and prove that Ghost is straight by hinting at her being a past love interest, but all that did was, at most, make some people think "oh, bisexual!" LMAO
Also, Ghost probably hade an internalized homophobia era. /hj
I also often think about how, somewhere on Tumblr, I once saw somebody say that Jordan Frye is just the straight, homophobic version of Thomas Sanders, and I hate that they're right. Both of their content is for the gays, but only one of them likes it, and it is NOT Jordan.
Also, imagine being homophobic, yet your entire fanbase is gay LMAO
#venturiantale#johnny ghost#jimmy casket#papa acachalla#spencer acachalla#light zeron#johnny cranky#vt#vt pie#pie team#taleblr#jordan frye#fuck you jordan frye#imagine beign homophobic but all your characters are gay#loser#coward#johnny ghost and johnny toast kiss#johnny ghost kisses MEN#hes so fucking GAY#for a character made by a homophobe#jordan was a coward for not letting Ghost kiss men#internalized homophobia#how can you be so homophobic yet make johnny ghost
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Love may have lost in Restoration, but it wins with my banger RvB pride flags
Diversity win! Red vs Blue has allowed local queer person to reach new heights of hyperfixation for eight years and counting.
#the specific flags i used for each character are mostly vibes based#the only headcanon i'll through hands over is donut being ace#and church/the director being bi is debatably canon which is what inspired this whole post#have you considered that project freelancer is a queer run startup and actually shutting it down was homophobic?#by the way carolina is literally my favorite character and i love her dearly but i know deep in my heart that she is a heterosexual#also i made these images back when the scripts leaked about grimmons/ace donut/bi sarge but it's time to bring them back#red vs blue#rvb#dick simmons#dexter grif#leonard church#the director rvb#franklin delano donut#lavernius tucker#kaikaina grif#sister rvb#doc rvb#frank dufresne#michael j caboose#agent texas#tex rvb#lopez rvb#agent washington#wash rvb#sarge rvb
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bioware either writes a trans man and allows the player to invade his privacy out of nowhere or writes a buff nonbinary character and makes it their whole personality. just stop. I'm fed up with it and I'd rather have a game w no trans rep than butchered trans rep and forced allyship.
there's absolutely no need to use our modern terms in a fantasy setting. its very weird and jarring and shows how little bioware cares. it's not difficult to make up their own words or just talk about it in a more natural way. you'd think for a fantasy world that has made up languages they could easily make up a word to describe genders and sexualities, so what's the issue? why don't we get the same care everything else (supposedly) does? like how come no one uses the words gay or lesbian or even bisexual but it's easily implied through dorian saying "I prefer the company of men" and sera's "we have too much in common bc we both like women"???? how come they can say that in a way that doesn't break immersion but taash has to go crazy about gender and write "trans/non-binary/genderfluid/agender all so so super valid I am affirmed" on the walls??
I get what they were trying to do with taash's story but it's not executed well at all especially with that fucking misgender scene. bioware I can assure you most people won't dissolve when they're misgendered. saying sorry or just correcting yourself and moving on is ok. its preferable actually. we don't need a character to stop the conversation to give a speech about how misgendering is bad and apologizing is also bad and act all white knight for us. it's embarrassing. like if I didn't know any better id say they were making fun of us. that's how fucking bad this writing is.
I'm sorry to the people who just accept the bare minimum, but it IS cringe and annoying to have our existence watered down to "trans" and "valid". why can't we just fucking exist without being turned into freakshows to gawk at. trans people deserve better representation than this caricature. we deserve basic fucking respect. our existence is much more complicated than cis people could ever understand and I'm sick of people pretending to care.
#sorry im pissed#i know its just a game but this has real consequences#people are already being so homophobic and transphobic about this game and bioware made it worse by making us look obsessive#im tired. if i have to write one million trans characters to make up for this slop i will do so until i die#dragon age veilguard#datv spoilers#bioware critical#transphobia#six speaks#im writing this in the middle of the campus foyer and its dark outside sorry if i missed anything or don't make sense its been a long day
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You guys are always yapping about how Criston Cole is Rhaenyra’s victim. Even though the show contradicts you on this point many times. Even though the producers contradict you on this point repeatedly.
However, no one wants to reckon with the fact that those men took a tale about a misogynistic paedophile and the child he groomed and isolated and then turned his child victim into the initiator/aggressor.
It’s par for the course with the adaptors. We watched it happen with Dany and Jorah, Doreah and Xaro Xhoan Daxos, Loras Tyrell and the homophobic way they adapted his story. The racist, heavily sexualised way they adapted the sand snakes and Ellaria Sand. I had hoped the fandom would know better by now but alas!
#before someone inevitably comes here to “but daemon” me#I will say that#daemon targaryen#did not get an adaptation that effectively whitewashed his character to the point that even book-only discussions of his character#are derailed by his antis.#if anything daemon was made extra evil#criston cole was whitewashed#to the point that people who have allegedly read the books are arguing that he was always#rhaenyra's victim.#it's absolutely maddening.#people justifying the homophobic rant he gives after viserys dies#people saying his usurpation of rhaenyra is justified#also being “but daemon-ed” is so fucking annoying#I don't even like that nigga but the way your lot talk about him has me wondering if any of you cracked open fire and blood#or rise of the dragon#or even the world of ice and fire#like damn#you niggas don't even slander Tywin this much and he's also a child murdering#woman murdering#war mongering#cruel#misogynist#like what gives?#house of the dragon#fire and blood#hotd#criston cole
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in the tags of that one fab five poly post you mentioned that you are a core four enthusiast and I’d love to hear if you have any Kon headcanons or just any yj headcanons in general, I love those little guys
!!! i love Kon so much, he's one of my fave guys. i actually got into the 90s era of comics to read his solo run, YJ(98), and then i just spiralled from there. i've got lots of headcanons about both Kon and YJ
for Kon specifically, i'm really attached to the headcanon of him and Power Girl being friends. i think the idea of them bonding over imposter syndrome over feeling like Kryptonians who don't neatly fit into the Superfam would be very crunchy. it's my Kara Zor-L stan showing, but i've got a lot of fic ideas where they end up close. similarly: i also think a friendship between Kon and Bizarro could be fun, both being clones of Superman made by Lex.
for a YJ headcanon: i hold FIRMLY to the belief that Bart knew TIm's secret identity before YJ even formed he just. never mentioned it bc no one asked him. the way they meet in Robin Plus Impulse, i see no world where Bart doesn't figure it out. i think it makes for a hilarious concept that Tim's identity real is a big deal and he uses the whole fake name Alvin Draper and Bart just blurts out that he's Tim Drake. i know we all love TimKon, but I'm a bit of a TimBart truther and i think it could be a fun little moment for them.
back to Kon: this is less of a headcanon and more of just a thought: but i wish we had more content about the Ravers, Kon's team before YJ. i won't everytime i think about Superboy & the Ravers i have to look it up to convince myself i didn't hallucinate that entire comic. but it was so fun. there was a road trip arc. a canon queer character who's arc was handled shockingly well for the 90s. (and the homophobic character was the one who got the unhappy ending while the gay man got to be happy with a bf?? revolutionary.) i personally believe Hero Cruz was Kon's gay awakening. i won't elaborate on this. anyway i wish we saw more of Kon thinking about this team after YJ formed and maybe missing some of his old party friend losers.
also on the note of Kon, i love any exploration of his canon experiences with being groomed by just about every woman he "dated" in the 90s. i'm such a fan of when a character becomes hypersexual to cope with their trauma that they haven't realized even is trauma. and i think Kon fits that bar perfectly. the first real attention he got outside of being attached to Superman's legacy was sexual attention from women, so of course he would lean into that and not realize how fucked up it was until years later. i love when it shapes his relationships in fanfiction, especially if he doesn't realize it. whether it's Tana Moon or Knockout or just about any other woman, there's a lot of material to explore.
Kon is one of the few characters i will venture out of pre-Flashpoint for because i think his complex over Jon Kent has the potential to be really complex and fun. i think everyone misunderstands Kon and Clark's relationship (i blame the Young Justice cartoon. i've had arguments you wouldn't believe over Kon on TikTok-) as father/son and that Clark is constantly pushing Kon away in favor of Jon, and that's just not true. the issue is that Kon was *forgotten* by the timeline shifting without him bc he was off on Gemworld. and to me, that's more interesting than making Clark some kind of absent father to him. it's an issue of the world he remembers not existing anymore and most of the world not remembering him either, and now there's a new Superboy replacing him. idk man that's fun. i have a lot of thoughts about the feelings Kon would have about Jon, wondering if the timeline shift was meant to "correct" Superboy to make a version of Superboy that was meant to exist and Kon wasn't. this very much ties into my thoughts on how he and Power Girl would have a lot to bond over, feeling displaced in a world that doesn't need them. that's where Kon's identity issues stem from. that said, i always prefer a Kon who actually gets along pretty well with the Superfam, including Clark and Jon. most of his conflict is internal, not external. it's what makes him crunchy.
more YJ headcanon: i think the shift from the Teen Titans to YJ from the perspective of the mentors is fascinating. YJ got a lot more freedom and less supervision, it's like how parents don't try as hard when they have more kids. so i love the headcanon that half the time the League has no damn clue what YJ is up to. they played baseball to save the universe? yeah they never mentioned it to their mentors. no one asked. the lack of supervision, sans a robot, makes them incredibly creative with how they solve problems. they don't approach anything traditionally because no one is properly guiding them. since they're a new generation of sidekicks, most of them holding a mantle that was passed down to them (or at the very least they're a new generation of a superhero family) it holds a bit of imposter syndrome. all of them are internally panicking 90% of the time while trying to appear collected around each other. they're actively a collective disaster because of it.
personally, i view the Core Four as more of a queerplatonic polycule than a romantic one? like i think it's fun to explore polycule dynamics where it's not actually everyone dating everyone, but far more complex of some people dating, some people are familial, some people are fucking, and we don't even know what those two have going on. it's complicated, you know? messy and codependent. i don't see them as a neat polycule whatsoever. it's like an on and off again relationship but with four people that also occasionally includes others. i'm personally a fan of the potential of the Young Justice (2019) team being a polycule except none of them have any clue who's dating who. every single one of them *will* give you a different answer. half of them aren't even aware of the other's sexualities. Jinny has come out as a lesbian like four times to her own polycule. i'm a big fan of this team and i wish there was more fan content for it.
random smaller headcanon: i do think Kon can cook and i think no one believes him when he tells them. bc the issue isn't he can't cook, it's that he never has food in his fridge or pantry to cook with. that boy was raised with Ma and Pa Kent, he can make a *mean* hotdish with whatever he finds. just don't expect him to ever repeat a recipe bc he will never have that exact combination of ingredients in his kitchen again. he is however, horrible at baking bc cooking is an art and baking is a science and you will never catch him following a recipe in his life.
i think Kon regularly uses his TTK to save his teammates during fights and just. never mentions it. like in small ways, such as slightly moving flying debris that's about to hit them, making a villain's punch have more resistance so it doesn't hit as hard, slightly pulling them out of the way. no one knows for like. *years*. i'm very obsessed with pushing TTK to the limits and exploring how it makes Kon hyperaware of his surroundings. it's a literal sixth sense and i think he's passively always aware of everything, even when he's relaxing. no one realizes just how much control he exerts over a fight. which means he's holding himself back most of the time, and in my opinion for the reasons of being afraid of himself, and afraid of the Luthor parts of him. so he just. balances a fight in little, unnoticeable ways.
it's one of my headcanons that if Kon started openly dating Tim Drake, Lex would immediately try to get closer to Kon bc not only would he approve of Kon dating someone from high society, but he'd want to try to use Tim's power within his family's company and Bruce's company as leverage. of course it wouldn't work, but it'd be a fun mind game if Lex vs Tim with Kon just stuck in the middle. i have a vague fanfic idea for this I'll probably never write.
this is a cursed headcanon: but i believe Kon has an incest kink. the number of times he's canonically expressed incestual feelings (both on purpose and on accident) is not on purpose in the text, but the fact it keeps happening means i'm personally just going to run with it. i think KonJayTim is fun bc even if Tim and Jason don't see each other as siblings, Kon would make it a kink anyway. i will leave you on that cursed note.
#necrotic answerings#timkon#jaytim#batcest#young justice polycule#core four#young justice (1998)#young justice (2019)#i demand more love for the 2019 yj team.#yes the run is mediocre but the team is good i promise they're worth it#ALSO more love for superboy and the ravers.#seriously i think like 10 ppl have read that comic.#it's so silly and fun#someone on here made a meme of sparx that said “how can i be homophobic i dated a gay man”#and i hope they know i cackle everytime i think about it.#it was shcokingly progressive for a 90s comic!#not without flaws but like. the homophobic character gets an unhappy ending. literally the opposite of the hays code#what more cna you ask for.#anyway this headcanons are all over the place#and i tried to keep them on the lighter side#but ty for asking anon bc i *love* young justice so much.#and i love kon so dearly. he's one of my fave characters#he would be my fave kryptonian if not for power girl
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none of the images based on gay meth were ever as funny as the original gay meth. It was hubris to try to replicate gay meth.
#there was a sonic one my friend sent me where it accidentally made the characters seem incredibly homophobic.#because it was like ''do you want us to kill gay people'' like Good lord Surge from the sonic comics you can't be saying that.
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reminder that if you're not watching Crayon Shin-chan then you are living a hollow and empty life. this is not edited. this ripped straight from the movie (Movie 8: Jungle That Invites the Storm, highly recommend for fellow Masaaki Yuasa lovers)
if you need further convincing: these monkeys run an animation sweatshop
#i've made this disclaimer on another post but will again since i've seen a lot more of the movies now#the movies are VERY good and very enjoyable but unfortunately the first handful are bogged down by transphobic/homophobic/okama stereotypes#they kind of vary in their severity. Movie 5 i think is the biggest catalyst because it features the stereotyped characters the most#prominently. Movie 3 doesnt really have caricatures per se but saves a very backhanded reveal for the end#Movies 1 and 4 are a bit more tolerable if my memory is correct. Movie 2 i think is kind of comparable to Movie 5 with its caricatures#in that the characters have similar roles in both movies#i admittedly can't remember what caricatures there were in Movie 6 or 7. 7 i think barely had anything#RAMBLE RAMBLE BASICALLY: these jokes are within the first 7 movies or so 5 being the zenith then reducing down and down. by movie 8 it's sa#e#i give these disclaimers because these movies are all very enjoyable and i would not recommend them if i didnt think there wasnt any merit#o them. they are all very much worth watching. Movie 5 still has a lot of very enjoyable stuff in it (there's a showdown in a supermarket!!#but i just want to make sure that is clear and established since transparency is good to have and i dont want anyone's viewing experience t#be ruined because they weren't given the proper warning#if it's any consolation it's my understanding that even the directors hated doing the jokes#iirc Keiichi Hara really didn't like doing the jokes and i think had a talk with the mangaka Yoshito Usui and was like 'uh dude this is#gonna age horribly can we maybe not'#ironically Hara's first film is Movie 5. which is again the biggest offender#BUT! that is my spiel. my understanding is that it's contained to those 6 or 7 first movies and i think is strictly just a movie thing#so please do give these films a watch but just be mindful at the same time#if anyone needs recommendations my favorites have been movies 4 and 9 but i genuinely really enjoyed every one that i have seen#i've seen the first 11 and a half movies (need to finish 12) and movie 22. the worst i've felt about one is 'oh that was pretty good!'#each film has its own merit and is very very very much worth watching#22 was the first Shin-chan anything i watched and all my Shin-chan expert friends say 4 is a good introductory piece#in case that influences anything/makes it easier to break in#so. thus concludes my spiel#csc#vid
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People really calling The Amazing Digital Circus "edgy" cause it's the Kidz Bop version of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. You should read the inspiration for this show if you think "Wouldn't it be fucked up if no one could die cause they're in an E-rated VR?" is too edgy for you.
#tdac is so toned down compared to its inspiration#the characters aren't even allowed to swear#AM turned one of its hostages straight just to be homophobic#literally that's an actual thing in the story. one of the humans was originally gay and AM made him ugly and straight.
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bonus:
my favorite part of secret invasion is when in 1ep maria revealed that she has a gf and in 2ep it was their wedding!! y’all also loved this, right? it was so nice of marvel to do this finally!!
(dedicating this to @blackhillverse )
#drop dead gorgeous#I recognize the council has made a decision but given that it’s a stupid-ass decision#I’ve elected to ignore it#delulu#maria hill#I don’t care what anyone says it’s my fav fanon in marvel#queer coded character#change my mind she’s so LESBIAN#I want her to **** me and then **** and ****#sorry I MEAN IT RESPECTFULLY#lesbian#marvel is homophobic#if marvel has the audacity for doing shit i have the audacity to forget about that completely#and act like nothing happened#that’s my number one golden rule#cobie smulders#marvel fanart#lgbt art#pride 2023#digital fanart#secret invasion#mcu fanart#procreate
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tdr is literally 2013 era tumblr fanfic — gay relationship with zero substance, too afraid to give anyone a personality or conflict, complete disrespect of legacy characters, and blatant misogyny. truly the best of all worlds thanks megan
genuinely i did have the thought while reading it that 13yos on fanfiction.net have written better stories than this. at least i can forgive a 13yo for not knowing what character flaws are. but the fact that megfitz got paid for this shit? insane. there's so much that's just so bad in here. the misogyny also cannot be dismissed it's true. acting like he was just settling in all his previous relationships? that line pissed me off soooo bad. i Know meghan doesn't even know who zoanne wilkins is lmao
#also sorry but i just would never be able to trust a white guy who's so into conspiracy theories#like i don't think megfitz intended for him to come off skeevy bc yknow he is perfect and has no character flaws right????#but the fact that she can't flesh out characters and has to rely on gimmicks and cheap shit like Evil Homophobic Parents#and therefore just kept reinforcing oh btw hes sooo quirky he thinks all this weird stuff about heroes hehe!!!#just made me go ummmm. ok. at what point is he gonna get into the racism and antisemitism#like ofc she wouldn't do that on page bc he's flawless and just hashtag quirky!!#but she doesn't THINK about how like. it reads. to reinforce over and over that your white guy is prone to cults and conspiracy thinking#anyways. impressively bad comic all around thanks meghan#answers#mysterycitrus
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I just had a horrible thought that I must inflict upon you.
Because of how ML handled Rose and Juleka, Fanfics where they are both straight best friends could technically be canon compliant.
I hate that you're right
#like on one hand I don't want to go full conspiracy thory#but#canon making juleka/rose and marc/nath be just bare minimum implied#but making season 5's more controversial characters of zoe and bustier be explicitally gay#really does feel like they're setting up the *anyone criticizing them is homophobic* defense#like if they'd made those other two also explicitly gay that'd be one thing but....
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Someone on twitter said it best: The title should actually be "How NOT to show support for SA victims that don't fit your desired demographic."
"His character is reinforcing negative gay stereotypes" and it's a hypersexual gay man who died in the 30s struggling with addiction and drug abuse to get through his life of exploitation, repression, trafficking and ipv doused with fake glitter and glam so no one can see beneath the cracked surface of his tortured soul.
"I don't think I've ever come across a character so poorly represented yet so greatly praised by the general audience" Because Angel isn't "representation", but an actual character with his own unique struggles and issues and responses that thousands of people (inclusing myself) can deeply relate to and if not "relate" then sympathise with. He isn't "SA rep". He isn't "Gay rep". He's Angel Dust. He's a person, and a broken one at that. If you don't relate to him the way so, so many others do, then maybe it's not for you. I already hate you 💀
#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel angel dust#angel dust we don't fucking deserve you#i'm like 2 minutes in and i can already tell the direction this is going to go#what the fuck do you mean “he's one of the only gay characters in the show” and you're talking about HAZBIN HOTEL#the show where everyone except ONE CHARACTER is queer???#that was the third or fourth red flag to be raised in the beginning immediately followed by that second point#the weirdly homophobic undertones and clear lack of literacy people like this give off without realising is always so insane to me#normally i just ignore videos like this because it's obvious it's either in bad faith or just demonstrate very puritan views#but this topic does get me a lot cuz it shows just how people see marginalized people as monoliths and if they're unique they're “bad”#especially when the character was written by OTHER SA SURVIVORS WHAT THE HECK like who are you to discredit them#cuz they don't fit in the box of what you consider “good”?? queer characters don't always have to “represent” others. let them be people#i'm not finishing it today cuz i know i'll be so annoyed by this based on the comment section and title and points made already#but i'm very compelled to write a counter to this video and i have too much homework stacked to get sidetracked by this#another time. definitely another time#momento rambles
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I am Eugammon of Cyrene, Ovid and Madeline Miller's biggest haters
#ruining greek mythology/j#but seriously#theyre versions of thr mythology is overshadowed by what actually happened#like ovids medusa myth#thats roman#not the original myth#the telegony saying odysseus willingly cheated on his wife#same with madeline miller#the telegony disregaurding so much of the odyssey#saying Penelope would marry the guy who killed her husband?#no#and madeline miller#both with earlir#and with achillies#that entire mess of a book#why did she make greece homophobic#but not entirely?#the lore there as weird#bro#thetis did no hate patroclus#she was relatively fond of him in pretty sure#an they (achilles and patroclus) were both cold blooded killers#patroclus just also happened to be nice#they made the characters boring and flat#and changed them into a gay stereotype#and is praised for it#anti tsoa#anti madeline miller#being a hater is my favorite hobby
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People are already whining abt the flag on grahams plushie be for real 💀
#ohh it doesnt represent me .. ok plushies arent made to represent you it represents him#plus its being released like. right at the start of pride month . so its def related to that#god forbid people get a cute pride flag with their plushie that represents said character#‘b but what about me im not lgbt’ … take it off?#if you see a pride flag and IMMEDIATELY have an issue with it. thats uh. thats a problem!#graham is lgbt and always has been suck it up .#heres to hoping this will drive out any homophobes who are FOR SOME REASON in this community#ugh i just needed to complain a bit#its so tiring. so exhausting . im tired of ppl complaining abt how lgbt people express themselves#this isnt just an issue with the plushie this is a general thing#ESPECIALLY approaching pride month. this always happens#theres a SPIKE in homophobia bc theyre desperately trying to silence us#i just want to enjoy pride month but its so hard to bc homophobes get so much louder .#and it ends up just being. exhausting. anyway#heres to a hopefully happy pride month this year .#i just need to avoid some places .
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i will never emotionally get over how we could have a serious, mature r rated animated show focused around Harley and how it could have really shown the horrific and traumatizing aspects of her character/journey that the films didn't, could have shown her struggle with hearing voices and seeing lil Harleen, could have shown her growth as she recovers and deals with the PTSD she would have after being with him
and instead we got.... an offensive, problematic parody show that's essentially redeemed her abuser so he could be made into just another humourous reoccurring character instead of treating his actions like the serious, traumatic vile actions they were, that treats sa victims like drama queen objects to be commented about and gawked at, and then kills them (???) They fucking killed Nightwing and made it so they buried him on his stomach so his coffin could have an ass outline ITS VILE WHAT THE FUCK
#harley quinn#harleen quinzel#dc comics#i watched the last two episodes cause i wanted to see if nightwing was actually dead#cause I only saw like a couple of people talking about it#and just....#god this is bad#the pr team feels So homophobic wtf#and why is ivy so stupid?!?!??? just change your stupid passwords and pin 💀💀💀💀 why didnt her idk trainees?? tell her to do that????#WHY DID SHE SMACK HARLEY WITH HER FJCMING PONYTAIL#just...#like some of the newer characters are interesting and cool but thats it..#the teething ''joke'' when Barbara was angry at her dad for not even calling when nightwing died#?!?!??? bro#this is so weird#i know i know its a comedy show but ... what part of this is funny? they've had like 2 things that've made me Exhale in amusement#its just actual cringe#the animation feels off too#why did Harley stop Barbara from attacking Joker when she was LITERALLY SUPPORTING HER ATTACKING EVERYONE ELSE !?!?!#LITERALLY WHY WOULD SHE DO THAT?!?!#HE SAID HE KILLED NIGHTWING FUCKING LET BARBARA HURT HIM THATS THE WHOLE REASON SHE WAS FIGHTING IN THE FIRST PLACE
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I just remembered they devoted a whole scene to Mike and Will burying a dead body for no reason other than to poke fun at—
#byler#they said cliche gay tropes#we raise you mocking those tropes subtly through the plot#like did they really need to devote a whole scene to burying a dead body?#they could have left dude laying anywhere#could’ve just stored him in one of the trunks in the junkyard#it wouldn’t have made any difference#fucking argyle joked about just writing their names on the makeshift gravestone#the scene was treated like a joke instead of them seriously needing to bury the body for safety reasons#it was a way to joke about how many viewers think Will is going to die#and follow the same trope every gay main character in mainstream media has before#where YAY they give us a gay character and get some brownie points from queer fans#only to kill the character off to appease the homophobes who make up the majority and would rather not have to actually watch a queer story#and the duffers are essentially saying#lmaooooo fuck that#and having it be both Mike and Will most prominently in this scene…#another fuck you to those saying that this love story is unrequited like every other story before it#they’re laughing at y’all!!!#y’all as in ppl that are predicting the most cliche ending to the story#like do you think they would poke fun at a trope that favors straight characters over gay ones…#only have a storyline that does just that?#the correct answer is no
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