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Ayylmao.tv: Who's in the right? UwU The voice actors or the ai (content farm) channels? UwU
Me, about to go full Irish American Psycho: Haha, don't think that you're not a freaking idiot content farmer too now just for using your own zonked out arse incel voice lad, I so wish that you weren't alive! How 'bout you show us your Silver Play Button TM that you got from monetizing off everyone's misery, hmm? :)
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dykedvonte · 5 days ago
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One of my mutuals opinions is the "bro code" thing, that Curly is one of those guys who wouldn't care about the victim because the perpetrator is his friend and I'm really banging my head on the wall like that other anon. I've only played through the game once but Curly's behaviour/reactions etc read completely different from the "bro code" thing and I have to wonder if my mutual and I even played the same game.. like the constant digs at him from Jimmy, his body language in his face reveal and so on like you mentioned in your post. While this game is a little different obviously, it kind of reminded of a point in Alice Madness Returns that makes it very clear that Alice's pain blinded her to the abuse of the other children and her failure to act earlier because of it. Curly is guilty of a similar inaction but it doesn't change the fact he was a victim of Jimmy too. I don't think I can look at it any other way because both of these games have really stuck with me.
I genuinely think it really is the idea that people want a simple easy to blame problem and the idea that the only relatable victims of abuse are those that "surpass" it or do a lot to help others. When it comes to victims, especially those that don't fit the typical demographics, who either accidently perpetuate it, enable it or aren't ideal in some way shape or form, people jump to ignore what they went through as it's easier than dealing with those conflicting sentiments.
The bro-code conversation in Mouthwashing stems from a concept I generally dislike that there had to be something about Curly that made him meet or keep being friends with someone like Jimmy. I think people genuinely underestimate how many like decent and good people just know an asshole or are friends with someone who is really bad outside of their view/established dynamics. The game makes it clear none of the inaction against Jimmy is because of a lack of care, it is a lack of understanding from the privaleged postions they have as men to not have to worry about what Anya does/went through and the type of extremes men like Jimmy will go through to cover it up. They are all too preoccupied in their own strifes.
Another thing I see being oversaturated the idea that you have to be a freak, misanthrope or have a disorder to do the thing Jimmy does. The game is an escalation, it's a spiral that I don't see people comment on that Jimmy was not likely having the mood swings and episodes of rage/frustration we were seeing in the game. This is after they all start experiencing the worst moments in their lives that he got THAT openly bad. Of course, this is just my interpretation but much like in real life, people that go to extremes like that usually live mundane lives. It's a pressure cooker affect to where the stress made them pop. It's self inflicted but still the case.
I really think people need to be more willing to acknowledge that not everything needs to be an extreme or in black and white or easy to understand. It doesn't need to be happy or have an answer or solution, especially in the cases where the abused sadly helps perpetuate what they experience. It's not he should've known better from experience or shouldn't he have known what could've happened because victims tend to not like to think in matters of the worst. Not to mention, especially in cases of abuse where it feels so personally directed that you don't expect to happen to someone else.
#i also hear the bro code thing in tandem with his comments on saying he knows Jimmy but that is also in a much different context than#if he said it when Anya was actively telling him about the dead pixel or the pregnancy or even when she told jimmy that was about himself#and getting between Anya and Jimmy as in he knows Jimmy and knows he wont try anything when hes around not that he doesnt think hes#doing anything or doesn't believe Anya and Im a bit annoyed people shorthand or try to recontextualize the statements he makes about it#cause even the let me talk to him line is more in concern of what Jimmy could be doing and less wanting to make sure hes okay and#being more worried about his friend than Anya in that moment like removing the context makes the sentiments sound more uncaring#and typically but the context is how they are deconstructed to give the story and themes a deeper nuance because Anya is happy that Curly#says that becuase he leads it under the idea of protecting her as he knows and she has likely seen/experienced it enough that Jimmy#back down/off around Curly typically as we see he does relatively subdue Jimmy's attitude before the eval and it only gets bad once the#scene at the birthday party happens when Jimmy is likely in a mode where hes not going to listen to Curly about anything after cause he fee#personally betrayed in a selfish egotistical way like the game is a deconstruction nothing is supposed to a typical one to one on the#concepts it handles. this also ties to me like getting more and more annoyed everytime is see a post making Curly the most milktoast#no opinions ever sort of guy when he does have a personality outside of enabling Jimmy and has opinions on things like the QnA's#talking about him being snow Tony Hawk flesh him out more realistically than think pieces saying he has no opinions on anything#and would never take stances like this is a immediate dire circumstance with multiple facets I dont think hed hesitate to help if he active#saw like someone getting attacked on the street or that hes a centrist that doesnt care about womans issues like this is the equivalent#of when a character gets dumbed down to their like favorite food and one defining aspect of themselves and even then I feel like everyone#else but the mouthwashing fandom has a better grasp of that aspect before they make it unrecognizable.#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#curly mouthwashing#captain curly#ask#anon
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kanyniablue · 4 months ago
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i just fundamentally had a different experience with kim kitsuragi & i think it boils down to the fact that my daddy issues don't manifest as a need for praise and encouragement from an emotionally distant man
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throwawayasoiafaccount · 4 months ago
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hotd never fails to disappoint
#w h a t#t h e#f u c k#this fandom also really sucks :/#i’ll never understand how certain team green fans can claim to love alicent and helaena and yet unironically support the side of the war#that very much wants to continue perpetuating patriarchal violence and control#aka the very thing that’s made both these female characters so very miserable#why is it so difficult for people to understand that rhaenyra becoming queen and reigning in her own right for some good long years#would force an ideological shift and would open a discussion that had been closed for a long time in westeros#alicent has suffered from the patriarchy but she also continues the cycle w/ her treatment of her children#please just please understand that you do not have to like team black nor do you have to like team black characters#but trying to justify aegon usurping rhaenyra is nonsense and completely unjustifiable no matter how hard you try to twist the situation#and please don’t try to take some centrist ‘team smallfolk stance’ bc that stance is simply one ppl take to shift the topic away#from the patriarchy and how denying a woman her legal inheritance tore the realm apart#‘but andal tradition’ bleh ‘why should the targs be ruling’ bleh ‘the small folk suffer more’ bleh ‘the dragons are nukes’ bleh#these are all red herrings meant to divert away from the main topic & are usually used by ppl to justify their support of team green#supporting the team that wishes for the continuation of the cycle is wrong#i support team black bc this is a break in the cycle and opens a discussion that westeros has needed for thousands of years#the social change would be slow but at least there’d be change!#<-of course we know this discussion didn’t rly open bc rhaenyra didn’t have a peaceful transfer of power and later died way too early on#but even tho she died so early a character in the main books series is using the precedent she set to support her own claim! (arianne)#anti team green#asoiaf fandom critical#anti alicent stans#anti aegon ii stans#pro team black#pro rhaenyra targaryen#hotd#house of the dragon#anti hotd
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ghostly-omens · 9 months ago
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The reason I do not post much about HermitCraft is because I would not be able to stop myself from bullying Xisuma. And not in a nice way.
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marsabillions · 4 months ago
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franky i don’t pandora gives a fuck about those muggles. her political motivation is science.
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roostertuftart · 2 years ago
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Also why r ppl back to trying to convince ppl Kyle is actually a shitty horrible person I thought we were through with that
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Idiot with a keysmash url, absolutely nothing in their bio, and a "Message":
Makes one run on paragraph long post about how "both sides" of the "vivziepop community" Are Bad.
Immediately cites some idiot 15 year old cartoon reviewer who shouldn't even be watching the show(s) as their main reference.
I remain endlessly baffled about how posts of this exact format are always the posts that get close to having at least like 50 fucking notes or something.
I immediately block yet another 'Fandom Centrist' asshole for clogging my fucking tags.
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jaskierx · 1 year ago
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you can recognise that ed and izzy's relationship is mutually toxic and damaging without slapping a 'so they're both as bad as each other and neither of them were abusive' on the end of it btw it's not illegal
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littlemsterious · 1 year ago
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ok so, like, the lore of demons and angels? beelzebub and uriel and hierarchy and fallen angles and all that?
where’s that from? is that in the bible? cause i was raised in church and i never got taught any of that.
where do i go for all that?
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kelean · 5 months ago
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why am i seeing people discussing if anders and morrigan betrayed the main character in 2024 and why are so many people saying that "well at least one of them didn't do it but i like calling it that way because it fits the 'mage betrayal' trend". like what trend are you talking about then if it consists of s*las only
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merl-out · 2 years ago
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Man I really just picked up a random fantasy series and stumbled into a whole civil war within a fandom without knowing it but like,,,
I'm seeing the lines drawn in the sand and I don't think I fully agree with any of you. The characterizations are so hot and cold in different books, I can see how people get to a certain point with characters, but then it feels like spite and fan wars have people throwing judgements out further and further and can I just say as a veteran of old Tumblr, someone who made a name for themselves writing fanfiction and engaging in fan culture, someone who has allowed that part of my media engagement to die off because of how heated people get over shit that's literally made up...
This is very entertaining for me. Please keep fighting.
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firstofhername · 2 years ago
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There’s nothing wrong with violently opposing down a violent, unjust status quo actually
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yoshidenss · 6 days ago
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I will probably ship izutsumi with some girl
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stalkish-shellos · 4 months ago
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I hate the esc fandom SO MUCH
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slovakbabe · 8 months ago
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i may be reading the books. however. i’m so glad i’m not in the ****** fandom. can we quit morally hand-wringing over who’s a better person than the other? i think we’ve established that everyone thinks along the lines of ‘the ends justify the means’ like we don’t need to be all black and white thinking about this.
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