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spinningalbinoturtle · 1 year ago

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Lotr characters and their dogs (and other pets)

Frodo

Canonically not a dog person but also just has cat person vibes

He has two cats one of them is a chubby gray kitty named Luthien and she is incredibly spoiled. A birthday present from Bilbo

His other cat is a stray who hates everyone but Frodo- its super scrangly and Sam calls it Gollum and it stuck

After the Quest Frodo gets a little beagle service dog that helps him with PTSD and other medical stuff

Sam

Pre Quest had an old basset hound named Fingon. His dad said they didn’t have room for it but Sam insisted on feeding it and when he moved in with Frodo it came along.

Post quest he has a border collie named Ellie (short for Galadriel) who helps him replant the shire

He also keeps chickens at Bag End and spoils them a bit. They are just for eggs

Also has a little dairy cow for fresh milk. Her name is Bell after his mom

Merry

The Brandybucks have a pack of mastiffs and they love Merry. Frodo is terrified of them

They also have several feral maine coones that lounge around their manor and also love Merry but hate everyone else

Has a full size horse post quest which he is very proud of and scares the other hobbits. Its name is Theoden

Pippin

Lets be honest with ourselves Pippin has a lab who has the exact same personality as him and they go everywhere together. Its name is something really basic like Buddy

He also keeps turtles and has a whole menagerie for them. They’re all named after different foods

Aragorn

Aragorn has a husky/malamute that he found on his travels north. He howls back and forth with it and is convinced he can understand it. When he becomes king it sits at the foot of his throne and occasionally will randomly howl in the middle of a meeting.

Horse girl all the way. Brego is his bestie. Man takes excellent care of his horse and buys all kinds of extraneous shit for it.

Boromir

Denethor has a pack of vicious looking dogs but Boromir has a Dalmatian that loves him so much

Faramir adopts it for a while after Boromir dies but Faramir is much more of a cat person, so ultimately its adopted by Aragorn and becomes mates with his husky. The puppies go to his and Arwens kids

Legolas

This could go one of two ways-either he has a super graceful hunting dog like a greyhound or whippet or he has a little pomeranian he dresses up and treats like a baby

He has tried to domesticate the spiders with little success maybe because he’s also killed a lot of them

Gimli

Gimli is a terrier person. He has a little Scottish terrier who sits on his lap all the time when he’s working. Gimli made it a little sweater and it hates Legolas (its jealous of Legolas stealing Gimli’s attention).

He also keeps canaries and they are very well cared for and all have names and he’s the only one who can tell them apart

Eowyn

Has a massive Rottweiler who is super intimidating to everyone except Eowyn. It has bitten Grima multiple times. Around Eowyn it acts like a little puppy.

She also loves her horse as all Rohirrim do.

I could also see her as raising ferrets or chinchilas as well

Faramir

Firmly a cat person

Doesn’t mind dogs but vastly prefers cats

Has six of them and they’re all rescues. Their names are : Mithrandir, Radagast, Varda, Melian, Beren, and Pippin.

Eowyn indulges her crazy cat husband even when their house is overrun with kittens

Arwen

Also firmly a cat person

She’s fine Aragorn’s dog but that’s just cause its well trained

Usually just has one or two cats at a time. They’re a special breed from Lothlorien and they’re really beautiful. They like to sit on her lap and purr. They’re also vicious mousers.

Eomer

Has a big great dane who hangs out in Edoras. Its super sweet and dorky. Everyone loves it.

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rivendell-poet · 17 days ago

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hiiii i just aaaaate my way through the scenarios and absolutely adored them, esp Boromir.. like he isnt even my fave character in general but you write him so well !!! could you do an SFW alphabet for Eomer (and/or Boromir (just cause it's a joy to read your writing on him)) ofc whenever you feel like it :)))

Thank you so much!! Also the compliments about Boromir, I think these have genuinely made my day?? Sorry for taking so long on your request, but hopefully you enjoy it <3

(Faramir will be next Sunday's update, but Boromir will be after him unless I get an influx of requests)

*･༓˚✧❝𝐒𝐅𝐖 𝐀𝐥𝐩𝐡𝐚𝐛𝐞𝐭 - 𝐄𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐫❞ ‧͙⁺˚༓˚✧ « SFW Alphabet »

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A = Affection (How affectionate are they? How do they show affection?) Éomer is a very affectionate person, although at the start of your relationship it takes him a little while to realise he can just be affectionate with you. Once you've reassured him, he enjoys coming over and giving you a small hug or a forehead kiss as a form of greeting, as well as affirming his love for you. Éomer likes a lot of small gestures, more constantly, although even though he does it a lot they never lose meaning. He never looks in your eyes with any less love.

He also enjoys spending quality time with you, whenever he can. Éomer enjoys planning dates and scheduling time off for the both of you. You can always tell when a date's approaching when he looks at your calendar with a smile before walking away with a spring in his step, often giving you a true kiss just before he leaves. (Quite fond of simply randomly giving you flowers, there's no particular reason when he does except that the idea occurred to him.)

B = Best Friend (What would they be like as a best friend? How would the friendship start?) He treats quite a few of his friendships as he does his relationship with Éowyn. He's very protective, even though he understands you can take care of yourself, and enjoys simply spending time with you. (Also enjoys teasing you.) Éomer could probably start a friendship over almost anything, whether it be a shared interest or simply constant proximity, as he can be very sociable. The fact you become best friends is because of how much he loves spending time with you. Éomer also wants his partner to be one of his closest friends, because he doesn't see the point in dating someone romantically if he can't enjoy spending time with them.

C = Courtship (How do they finally ask you out? What do they do in the days before?) When he realises at the very start, he's quite embarrassed - not spending as much time with you, or with more formal greetings. And then you realise it's because he's scared of messing something up, while attempting to court you. In the end it's Éowyn's advice and gentle pushing that allows him to finally confess to you. When he does he's surprisingly poetical, highlighting how you make him feel - how you make him feel seen, loved. And how he wants to make you feel like that as well.

D = Domestic (Do they want to settle down? How are they at cooking and cleaning?) Éomer absolutely wants to settle down with his betrothed - the idea of a home is very important to him. It's something he's willing to fight for, and when he's fighting it's his motivation. And he wants you to be included in this as well.

He's fairly good at cooking, although not incredible at it. Éomer, unlike his sister, actually has remarkable talent for making stews - they're always rich and filling, something he looks forward to making on a wintery day. Also decent at cleaning, however although he's great at getting rid of dirt and mess he doesn't often go beyond that to make it sparkling. He will put in effort if asked.

E = Ending (If they had to break up with their partner, how would they do it?) Éomer doesn't want to break up with his partner, but he'd be frank about it. Sit you down and explain that this wasn't working out, waiting for any questions you have before leaving. He feels worst about breaking up, and afterwards will need some time to just sit and reflect. Also feels worse for the longest.

F = Fiance(e) (How do they feel about commitment? How quick would they want to get married?) Although he doesn't necessarily go into a relationship looking for a marriage, it's always in the back of his mind. Being a potential heir to an entire kingdom of Rohan, he knows that the person he'll end up being with should be the person who he wants to be able to parade. To stand strong with, no matter what. And, when he meets you, it only takes a few months before he realises that - if he'll ever be king - he wants you on the throne with him as well.

His proposal and the marriage is beautiful, if very traditional, although he takes his time with it. He would be happy to spend time with you without marriage, and he doesn't want to push you into anything.

G = Gentle (How gentle are they, both physically and emotionally?) Éomer is gentle both physically and emotionally, and he's never been ashamed of that. One of the main cultures of Rohan is tied to close relationships and understanding with your mounts, and Éomer is proud to have a close bond with people - one he wants to have with you. Éomer feels having a close understanding with his significant other is incredibly important, and it's something he makes an effort to maintain.

Also is very physically gentle, he enjoys physical contact with you (will never so no to hugs) but is always very careful not to overdo it. Éomer, along with being in touch with your emotions, is in touch with his. This is a man who - if needed - is not afraid to cry in front of you or feel he has to put on a brave face.

H = Hugs (Do they like hugs? How often do they do it? What are their hugs like? What about cuddling?) Again, will never say no to hugs but is always very careful with them. Does have quite a strong hug at the start, but quickly relaxes into it once you're both together. Although he enjoys tighter hugs he also likes more casual ones, or hugs where one party is leaning against the other. He'll support you any day, and it makes him feel so happy to know you trust him, but if you're tall/strong enough he will absolutely lean on you. Will often hug as a greeting, or as a goodbye - thinks it's a great way to show affection to you (and to anyone who's interested).

Éomer is also a big fan of cuddles, and after a long day where the two of you simply climb into bed he immediately moves to cuddle with you.

I = I love you (How fast do they say the L-word?) Éomer says it pretty quickly - he is’t one to hide his emotions away, so when he realises that he loves you, he will say it. However, it may come at a more unconventional time - he’s sitting and reflecting on the day when he finally realises it. And he wants you to know about these feelings immediately.

J = Jealousy (How jealous do they get? What do they do when they’re jealous?) Easily gets a little jealous, but once he’s reached that it doesn’t often progress further. There have been one or two occasions where he is absolutely envious, but he’s also the type to immediately go over to you and try and resolve it. Feels no guilt in coming up to you and giving you a brief kiss, reveling when your eyes shine up at him as his quickly match yours. If it’s somewhere a public kiss isn’t really appropriate, he’ll instead put an arm around your waist or link hands with you. It’s smaller, but still enough affection for him.

K = Kisses (What are their kisses like? Where do they like to kiss you? Where do they like to be kissed?) Although Éomer will never say no to a quick forehead kiss, either with him giving it to you or you giving it to him, Éomer loves slightly longer kisses. Ones that are more intimate, that he needs to take a breath from when you stop. He loves the closeness that it brings him, and it’s a surefire way to have him look at you like you’re an angel. Again, he loves being kissed on the forehead and longer ones. (Tries not to show it, but adores kisses on the neck from you - makes him feel absolutely cherished, and a little bit more.)

L = Little ones (How are they around children?) Éomer is very good with children, he can tell good stories and is very engaging. Also enjoys spending time with them, and will join in with their pretend games.

M = Morning (How are mornings spent with them?) He tends to wake up slightly earlier, having to leave for duties before you’re awake, so misses you quite often. Éomer wakes up a few minutes before he needs to so he can lay by your side, getting ready for the day ahead. When you get up they’ll often be some breakfast ready, or at least a little note. Maybe even a forehead kiss as he whispers that he loves you before being whisked away.

If you’re an early bird, he enjoys having someone to wake up with. Enjoys the fresh morning with you. Although quietly - it’s more in simple smiles as he brings the both of you over for a drink and you allow yourself to wake up, together.

N = Night (How are nights spent with them?) As he can’t always spend the day with you he enjoys spending the night with you instead. Likes to sit down and eat dinner together, going over the day and slowly unwinding. Most days it leads to the two of you simply laying together, often him pulling you over him, and enjoying being in each other's company as he tries to make you laugh, or the two of you just think together. Goes to bed when you do, and does steal the covers in his sleep.

O = Open (When would they start revealing things about themselves? Do they say everything all at once or wait a while to reveal things slowly?) Éomer had planned on being stoic and more mysterious with you for a little longer, but with your laugh and smile - simply your presence - a lot of his walls break down. He’s comfortable with you, and when he’s comfortable he’s open and honest.

P = Patience (How easily angered are they?) Generally a very patient person, he’s happy to go over the steps with you for the sixteenth time with just as much patience as the first. The only exception is when he’s stressed, in which case his words become more cutting - although he is aware of this. He always apologises after, and even when he’s annoyed he makes sure you know that the anger isn’t directed at you.

Q = Quizzes (How much would they remember about you? Do they remember every little detail you mention in passing, or do they kind of forget everything?) Éomer is good at remembering things, he comes from a culture that highly values oracy and doesn’t write too much down so is very used to remembering things if he’s only heard them. In fact, almost all of what he remembers isn’t written down anywhere. Always makes him smile when he’s remembered a small thing, and quickly thinks about how he can incorporate it into a gift or date with you.

R = Remember (What is their favourite moment in your relationship?) Éomer’s favourite moment in your relationship is probably your first wedding anniversary. He’d set aside the day for the two of you, so when he woke up he could actually stay by your side for the entire time, waiting for you to wake up. Once you did he peppered you with kisses, and the two of you spend the day relaxing in each other's company. He brings you a picnic and the two of you go near the halls, laughing and reminiscing about your relationship so far. He loves this memory because your love your each other is so obvious, although it’s a relatively simple date idea with no frills, just the two of you.

S = Security (How protective are they? How would they protect you? How would they like to be protected?) He is a protective person. Very happy to have you at his side, all day everyday. However, he tries to tone it down and doesn’t often voice these feelings - besides, he’s at your side most days anyway. Éomer doesn’t expect to be protected at all, and when you do for the first time he freezes in awe. The fact you’d stand up for him; he never expected to feel this protected in an argument. (Has a thing for being the little spoon, in some regards because of this, but will deny it.)

T = Try (How much effort would they put into dates, anniversaries, gifts, everyday tasks?) Éomer puts as much effort as he can into dates and anniversaries, which is quite a lot when he’s not doing his duties. Enjoys planning things, and enjoys the blushes and good memories even more. Éomer is also the type of person to keep track of month-averseries, even if he doesn’t do anything with them except let you know and give you a quick kiss. Does enjoy giving gifts, but most of the time it will be flowers instead of anything long-lasting.

U = Ugly (What would be some bad habits of theirs?) Says yes to people’s requests too easily, even if you know he’s overworked. It’s because he wants to look out for his people - but sometimes you have to remind him that other people can help with that, and he needs to take a break too.

V = Vanity (How concerned are they with their looks?) Éomer is a soldier, so he doesn’t make himself look the best he can every day. However, he is a lord of Rohan so dresses and keeps himself quite well. (Also is secretly very proud of his hair.)

W = Whole (Would they feel incomplete without you?) At first, absolutely not. There’s something in him that breaks, and there will always be a little hole in his heart where you were. Throws himself into his work to try and deal with it, and eventually loss of you gets better when he allows himself to process it.

X = Xtra (A random headcanon for them.) Really enjoys plaiting hair/his hair being plaited. Will happily sit down for an hour or so and just have fun with it. Would weave flowers or trinkets into your hair if you asked him too, he needs some convincing but you would be allowed to put flowers in his.

Y = Yuck (What are some things they wouldn’t like, either in general or in a partner?) Éomer wants someone who can respect his emotions, and show some of their own. It doesn’t have to be a massive display - but just some way he can tell that the gifts excited you, perhaps that little look in your eye that shows him you love him.

Z = Zzz (What is a sleep habit of theirs?) Sleeps pretty well, wakes up quite early so will go to bed (somewhat) earlier. He does steal blankets, however, so often goes into bed with you so you don’t come to your bedroom to sleep only to find him completely covered in the duvet.

A/N : Sorry for not uploading yesterday, I was watching all of the Lord of the Rings extended edition until 11:50. Hopefully this was enjoyable <3

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torchwood-99 · 2 months ago

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Then he laid her hand in Éomer's and stepped away. 'Call her!' he said, and he passed silently from the chamber. 'Éowyn, Éowyn!' cried Éomer amid his tears.

You ever think about this great big warrior hunk, probably still in armour and covered in sweat and dirt and blood, clutching his little sister's hand and calling out her name and literally sobbing. This isn't a single manly tear this is tears, plural.

Not got much of a point except oh man this guy loves his sister. Like we see it when he goes on the rampage but this just really compounds it. The Rohan mindset lends itself pretty well to battle fury and there's the element of family honour, which could have allowed for Eomer to go slaying without there being much feeling of tenderness underneath it all.

It could have been about pride, it could have been about honour. Folks have been driven to violent rages and fury when family honour and pride has been "maligned", but this scene shows there was none of that in Eomer's head. He went on that rampage because his sister, because Eowyn, had been taken from him and nothing mattered anymore. This wasn't a lord avenging his kin on the battlefield, or a man angry because a woman who was "his" was taken from him, this was a big brother in tears because he's scared for his sister.

#LOTR #Lord of the Rings #Eomer #Eowyn

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sketch-mer-6195 · 21 days ago

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Gaze of the Marshal (Eomer x OFC Sisilla)

A/N: So, one of my friends from discord asked me to send her the link as we both love Karl Urban. And since I'm writing again for Sisilla (for those who actually remember... if not welcome to meeting my first OC here on Tumblr!)

The Battle of Helm’s Deep was victorious, but with a heavy burden of many deaths. Men, Elves, Orc’s and Uruk-Hai, all slain in the battle. The air was foul and wreaked of decay, and for the women, children, the sick and the elderly to see what their soldiers had done to protect them was a sight that was not something they should witness. One who was blessed and cursed was Sisílla. Sitting next to the now shrouded figure of Haldir, the Captain of the Elven army from Lórien. A dear friend and ally that she was fond of. And she knew death was inevitable, but it hurt more each time she was there to witness the death. Thorin, many of his former company, Gandalf the Gray, Boromir, and now Haldir. Her heart chipped in grief and her body felt numb as she laid a small hand on the chest that was her friend before the body was taken away respectfully to be buried back in Lórien.

Her silver armor and white tunic stained heavily with orc blood. Her elven-like fair skin had specks and slashes of foul black blood. And her silvery-white hair that was tied in a braided bun now disheveled and falling out of its ties. But many of the people still flocked to her for thanks and to see if she was harmed in battle. Legolas had soon appeared to her side and with the grace as any typical Elf, knelt down to her level and carefully laced his fingers with her own.

“Aragorn is wanting to see you.” Legolas spoke softly in her ear.

Sisílla nodded lightly before allowing him to help her to her feet. As they began walking to the main hall where Aragorn and the King were awaiting them, Sisílla could feel eyes lay upon her. A pair that she had not sensed nor met while back in Edoras. But she couldn’t think of anything except being in the presence of her Ward and old friend.

From the ride to Isengard and traveling to Edoras, Sisílla could not shake the feeling of eyes on her. No matter where she rode, the feeling was present. Like a woolen blanket on a warm mid-summer’s morning. Annoying and unsettling. But once everyone was back in the capital of Rohan, a major celebration was announced after the victory at Helm’s Deep. Éowyn had ushered Sisílla to her private chambers to help her wash off the grime and filth and prepare for the celebrations. Although it felt odd to gain such a luxury of a hot bath and oils to be clean and feel feminine, Sisílla was thanking the stars and gods above for such blessing and kindness from Éowyn. Sisílla had finished and was dressed in one of the dresses that Éowyn had lent her, a silvery blue gown with silver embroidery on the sleeves. Her hair was brushed and braided back with her bangs framing her soft face. Éowyn was taken back at how beautiful Sisílla looked once out of her armor and breeches. How her brother was going to be viewing the Oracle was going to be enough to tease him till death.

And it had played in her favor. As many began to drink, feast on a hot meal, sing and dance, and participate in frivolous drinking games, Sisílla had found her place near one of the large carved wooden pillars as she heard Gimli slur nonsense as he and Legolas continued the drinking game. The eyes that she had felt now felt burning and hot on her skin. Whoever this person was or being, it was making Sisílla squirm. It was only when she heard a loud thud from Gimli passing out from drinking so much ale that caused her to jump and come back to the present moment. Éomer on the other hand, hadn’t missed her surprise reaction from the dwarf. He hadn’t been able to tear his gaze from her since he rode into Helm’s Deep during and after the battle. Women were to stay and shelter with the children, elderly, and sickly. But to his surprise, Éomer watched as Sisílla fought alongside King Theoden and Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, and sometimes on her own.

It was only till he had seen her being escorted by Legolas and rode with Aragorn that he soon realized that she was blind. And after returning with the Hobbit’s, it was from them that he found out that she was the Oracle. It all made sense. And now, in a dress and looking as fair as ever, Éomer was in the presence of such a fair maiden from Rivendell and the stories about her from travelers and bards were becoming real to him before his very eyes. Eyes that were made of the white gems Lasgalen. Hair that was blessed with a starlight halo to represent her purity, and her skin as fair as an Elven princess. Though she was of Men and from Bree. Éomer knew he had to at least speak with her. Even if it was this one time. He wanted to hear her voice to keep as a memory.

As he took a hefty gulp of his ale to bring him a wave of courage to speak to the maiden, Éomer ran a hand through his golden locks and walked to where Sisílla stood. Her silvery eyes were unfocused as they gazed down at the oak table where the drinking games were held, but she tilted her head ever so slightly as she listened to the gentle clicking of his boots.

Éomer stopped before her at arms reach and cleared his throat which made Sisílla turn her head in his direction and her eyes to look up at his general direction. Oh how the bard’s description fall short in her beauty before him.

“May I have the honor of your company, Lady Seer?” Éomer asked, bowing his head in respect and offering his elbow to her.

Although her eyes were unfocused, he could see her mind was as sharp as a dagger. Sisílla bowed her head in return and smiled a small smile before reaching out slightly. Éomer looked down at her outstretched hand and felt a swift pang of guilt. Holding his arm for her to take was rude. And he made sure no one of importance noticed his mistake. Carefully, he took her hand in his own hand and couldn’t help but notice the size comparison. Naturally, men and women of Rohan were much taller and larger than most, but her hand was so small and soft compared to his own larger and calloused one. Éomer ever so carefully guided her hand to hold the crook of his elbow as he walked her to the entrance of the great hall and out to the cool and brisk night filled outdoors. It was a much needed relief from the warm and bustling hall. And much easier to hear as well.

Éomer carefully walked her to the edge of the landing that faced the town below. The flags of Rohan whipping gently in the night breeze as the stars danced in the blackish blue velvet night sky. He had grabbed his cloak as they walked out and draped it over his free arm in case either of them were chilled. The muffled sound of men and women cheering, singing, and laughing resonated behind the massive oak doors as both Éomer and Sisílla relished in the calm and serenity that the outdoors provided them.

But it was broken very soon after a moment or two had passed.

“May I ask a question, sir?” Sisílla asked earnestly.

“But of course, milady.”

She turned on her heels and faced him, something that startled Éomer.

“Have you been the one watching me since your arrival to Helm’s Deep?” She asked. “For someone in the Rohirrim, your stare has been nothing but foreboding and unsettling.” Éomer stood there even more shocked than before. Surely she must have heard that he was part of the Rohirrim from Gandalf. But how could she tell it was him?

“ And what if I was to say it was not I, milady? But one of my men in my company?” He asked.

But Sisílla merely smiled and let her shoulders shake as she did her best not to giggle out loud. “Very clever, for someone of your title.” She added.

“And what title is that?” Éomer asked with an amused brow cocked.

“I’m not sure, but I do feel that you are in the King’s Court even when exiled from Grima.” She replied before curtsying. “I am Sisílla.”

“Éomer, Marshal of the Mark. It is my honor to be in your presence, Lady Sisílla.” He bowed before taking her hand into his once more to bring it to his lips and kiss her knuckles lightly.

How Sisílla blessed the night to hide her warming cheeks. It had been many years since a man had caused her to reveal a timid blush, but was a welcoming feeling as well. Something that she had missed since her travels to Erebor with Thorin Oakenshiled and his Company. Éomer couldn’t help but feel the corner of his mouth turn upward with slight pride and mirth before resuming a more humble tone of air before her. If she could sense him before just by him watching her from a distance, who knows how she could feel if he was proud that he made the Oracle of Middle-Earth blush at such a simple gesture. Éomer knew that their time together wasn’t going to be for forever. Not now with wars coming and the One Ring still in the hands of a hobbit. But, he was going to make the best of it and pray to the gods that he would have the opportunity to properly take her on outings and hope to court her without the fear of death upon their doorstep.

And tonight was the catalyst. Anything to bring them both a piece of humanity and peace in their lives.

#LOTR #Eomer x OC #Please don't hate me it's been a long time since writing any fanfic

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sonofarathorns · 4 months ago

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i finished return of the king for the first time!

and i’m gonna get sappy about it.

• the first chapter was so good and the movie does an excellent job staying so accurate to the book, except i love the additional detail we’re given by seeing everything from pippin’s perspective. we actually get to know beregond and his son, and we get to know denethor better.

• book merry is such a badass. i love him so much. all the hobbits are badasses, actually.

• HALBARAD!!!!!!!! my favorite minor character, i only knew him from fanfiction until now, but I LOVE HIM. i do so wish he was in the movies, i know they had to make difficult decisions but i would’ve loved to see the dunedain come to the paths of the dead with aragorn, legolas and gimli.

• i have spoken about eowyn’s riding into battle as dernhelm, but i will do it again. how intense was that!!! and then theoden’s death, i was cleaning my house and listening to the audiobook narration by andy serkis during this part, and i had to sit down and stop so i could cry properly. and eomer’s reaction to his uncle dying and then finding his sister who wasn’t even supposed to be there on the battlefield… excellent depiction by the movie, for that part.

• the frodo and sam chapters made me thirsty.

• aragorn in the house of healing… 🔥🥵

• i love that we get to see how eowyn and faramir start spending time together 🥹💕

• lobelia in chapter 9 🥺🫶

• um, how come i am just now finding out that saruman’s and grima’s deaths are different? crazy! well, there’s a lot that happens in the shire after they return, with the ruffians and farmer cotton and rosie, which:

• ^ i knew sam and rosie moved in with frodo after they got married from fanfiction but their conversation about it was awesome. just like, duh sam, you’re living with me?! good for them.

• bill and strider, i need a minute 😭🤧

• the very last page-…i didn’t know it was the last page because the appendices are so long, and i was not prepared. i cried. and then i got excited because it was time for me to do my nerd homework (read the appendices). lots of names and places i vaguely knew from fics (hello elrond lore, beren and luthien, etc.!) but i finally got to read the og source material!

i feel strange and sad. like i’ve been there and back again… i’ve loved these movies since i was 11, and now i will never be able to read them for the first time again 🥺

lotr got me through a really tough first anniversary of a death in my family a few months ago - that’s why i finally decided to read the books. fic writers and fan artists have brought me joy on days where it seemed like all hope was lost. all of this to say, i love this fandom ♥️ and i hope at least some of you have found enjoyment reading my thoughts on the books.

#reading lotr for the first time #return of the king #rotk #lotr #lotr spoilers #tolkien #reading the silmarillion for the first time #just realized i didn’t do one of these posts for the two towers #oops #just know that i loved it but i was shocked to find out there were no elves at helms deep

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chronicallyaunline · 11 months ago

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Legolas makes more sense if he’s autistic

I recently re-watched the Lord of the Rings movies and I couldn’t help noticing how strange some of Legolas’s behaviour is. So many of his lines are unconnected to a broader conversation, and when they’re directed at others they often feel at odds with the scene.

Alternative theories for why Legolas is weird:

Bad acting

Bad writing

That’s just how elves are

I’m going to disregard the meta analysis for now, but there is a decent body of evidence that elves do not behave the same way Legolas does. In fact, I think his weirdness is camouflaged by being the only elf in most scenes. The other characters and audience members are more likely to attribute his behaviour to being an elf than to him being whatever the Middle Earth equivalent of autistic is. All the elf characters love being aloof and saying cryptic bullshit, but this is something beyond that.

Some evidence:

Flat affect, issues with empathy

After Gandalf is believed to have died, the Fellowship is in Lothlorien where an elf choir sings a lament to Gandalf. Legolas tells the group that it’s for Gandalf, but then says he can’t tell them what is being said because the grief is too fresh for him. His facial expression and tone are extremely flat. He isn’t malicious and doesn’t seem to lie anywhere else in the series, which suggests that he really does feel so intensely sad that he can’t tell the others what is being said about Gandalf. The fact that he feels that level of emotion with an entirely straight face reads like autism. A few minutes after this scene we see Galadriel experience intense fear, and in some scenes Elrond is visibly angry, which suggests that low emotional affect isn’t a facet of the species. It’s unique to Legolas.

While it doesn’t make sense for him to be purposefully unkind, telling people that their friend is being eulogized in a language they don’t speak and then refusing to translate is an odd choice. Why tell them at all if he wasn’t going to tell them what was being said? It seems like he struggles to understand what the impact of that would be on others.

Poor interoception (understanding of one’s own emotions and body signals)

During a drinking competition Legolas appears slightly confused when he discovers that he’s experiencing symptoms of drunkenness. Legolas has been alive for centuries. It doesn’t seem plausible that he’s never had a large quantity of alcohol before. We don’t see other drunk elves in this series so intoxication could be highly unusual for them, but it still seems odd that Legolas would be surprised by a bodily experience (tingling fingers) being connected to drinking. He only identifies a “slight tingling” as a symptom, yet his movements and speech are slowed in a way that suggests that he is more affected than he realises. He has just failed to pick up on what is happening.

Unusual social behaviour

Aragorn shares a plan to help Frodo by diverting Sauron’s attention with an army. Legolas unhelpfully summarizes with, “a diversion.” He also smiles slightly after saying this, which makes it come across as genuine rather than sarcastic. Either he has wildly underestimated the intelligence of everyone else in the room, is voicing his interal monologue, or is making an awkward attempt to be part of the conversation. There is no evidence elsewhere of him considering the other characters stupid or of him voicing his thoughts aloud. This looks more like mirroring, trying to be part of the conversation by parroting back what someone else said. This statement adds nothing to the conversation except to get him involved, which may be the true goal.

When Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli first meet Eomer, Gimli says something rude to him and Eomer says that he would cut off Gimili’s head if it were further from the ground. Legolas responds by drawing an arrow and threatening Eomer, which takes a tense but calm interaction and escalates it into a stand off. There was nothing about Eomer’s behaviour to suggest that he was actually going to harm Gimili. It was more about trading aggressive banter than an actual threat to Gimli’s life. It’s Legolas who unnecessarily escalates the situation and causes the Rohirrim to draw their weapons. He isn’t dangerously impulsive elsewhere in the movies, which makes me think he didn’t understand the interaction. He took Eomer’s words as a genuine threat and reacted as though Gimli was already in danger, which doesn’t seem to have been the case.

Conclusion

I’m of the opinion that a neurotypical Legolas is kind of a bad character. It makes it difficult to get a sense of his internal life, what motivates him or why he responds the way he does. So much of what he does and says seems like the writers and actor just didn’t know what to do with him. That may be the case, but if we re-interpret his behaviour as elf autism, he’s a more interesting and sympathetic character. I think we are always meant to interpret him as having a different brain from humans, but even the oldest and wisest elves interact more “correctly” with others. I’m not suggesting that Legolas was written as intentionally autistic, but so much of what makes him an erratically-written neurotypical character makes him a plausibly written autistic character.

#autism #actually autistic #lord of the rings #legolas

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