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Watch me consume TNEOL three times this year and still get upset every time because no one thought to try a remove curse spell in game
#even on just beau and caleb#tneol really made it obvious to ne that book was hella cursed#and i just can't help but wonder what would happen if they managed to cast before the point of no return#aka most of the tomb takers dying#tneol spoilers#lucien tavelle#for context i was mad no one cast it in game when cr2 was live and the book really clocks how right i was#luciens downfall was a mix of pride grief and a curse that morphs the psyche#i think about the horror lucien felt upon remembering the somnovum and them reminding him he can't leave before the curse seemed to take#hold agian. and thinkig about Vess nullifying its effects and how hard Molly tried to use his poor Cha to bring clarity to Lucien#i have a lot of thoughts about all of this
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one of my fave things about cr2 i think is that tmn as characters are impossible to separate from their setting, wildemount . like its intrinsically part of all of them. beau and caleb want to try their bests to cut out the corruption in the empire despite knowing its deep-rooted, because they grew up there. veths from the empire too but from a smaller farming community, she's less connected to the government or politics in that way but her being from that town that was destroyed in the war is what makes esseks actions so severely hurt her. yasha sleeps on the floor for comfort and eats odd things because she's been nomadic her entire life. she recognises the big weird lumbering beasts they see in the wastes and just shrugs them off. jester and fjord are always relieved to see the menagerie coast again. jester has drawn that ocean view from her bedroom window so many times, she recommends shops and foods from nicodranas, and fjord worships the sea he grew up besides and worked on. caduceus listens to beau and caleb because he's from the north, outside of the empire, and trusts they understand the complicated political aspects more than he does. in exchange he shares his tea and food from home with them all, and when he's having winter clothes made he brings fabric from home as an example - his family have specific fabrics and patterns they pass down. his tea is only grown in the grove, his staff is from there, grew there with him. and his armour! and lichen! he carries his home with him everywhere. theyre all so rooted in the continent and i love that
#thats something abt cr3 that makes me feel less attached to them. sm of them arent even from marquet . its a shame#i want connection! i want to care about the land theyre from#its harder if theyre just tourists lol#kiddo say#upon rewatching it does rly make the underlining war plotline in cr2 work well 2 me . they care abt where theyre from#even tho theyre off doing insane things and i think its a good dynamic especially when some of them arent from there#like beau and caleb are very concsious of behaving in front of empire authority figures whereas cad will behave but like#hes not scared like they are. he thinks theyre all stupid
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beau and caleb butting heads so bad about what to do with essek...oof!
#i do agree with beau and veth that it doesn't make sense for them to let essek get away with instigating the war#and i do agree with beau saying it's not a pissing contest about who's the bigger war criminal that deserves punishment first or moreso#but that's probably not really what caleb's thinking is anyway#it's just what he's able to articulate to justify not wanting to punish essek#liam has still said on v recent talks eps that caleb continues to be Heavily driven by his personal goals#even if the journey there might look quite different now bc of m9#interesting how caleb's judgment may or may not be clouded by the fact that essek can and probably will continue to teach him dunamancy#and that's all on top of whether feelings have developed there yet#3h22m c2e99#text#critical role#cr2#cr lb#caleb widogast#beauregard lionett#r: empire kids#essek thelyss#cr meta#*meta
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I want to know where Athesias Uludan is. He is the only good-aligned member of the Assembly. He was boxed out of the Academy because the rest of the Assembly didn't trust him not to run his mouth. Is he dead. Is he in hiding in Nicodranas. Do the Nein know where two Cerberus Assembly archmages are but were well aware that one of them knows dogshit?
#god that'd be funny as fuck#'yeah there's another one but he's not even worth mentioning. cuz he knows less than nothing.'#tbh rip the fact he wasn't headmaster he would never have allowed the scourger program#margolin was involved in it explicitly. I hope beau and caleb got him fired#athesias is a delight and also def much smarter than he gets credit for but he is just very vain lmao#cr spoilers#vaguely but just in case
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Jester: I JUST REALIZED WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT DINOSAURS SOUND LIKE! THEY COULDVE BEEN SPEAKING FLUENT ZEMNIAN FOR ALL WE KNOW!
Caleb: it’s too early for this shit
Beau: GUTEN MORGAN HERR PTERODACTYL!
Caleb: I regret everything
#Beau learned basic zemnian just to piss off caleb when she (intentionally) uses it incorrectly#but also to do shit like this#Caleb whines about it outwardly#but inwardly he’s very touched that beau is just enough of an sweetheart to learn his native tongue#even if she’s a bastard about it#the mighty nein#critical role#incorrect quotes#caleb widogast#beauregard lionett#jester lavorre#the mighty queue
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I'm so fucking glad Beau's not softer, like. It's been 7 years and she's still restless and comfiest punching the shit out of things. Still impetuous, still half of the team with Caleb's more pragmatic tempering. Still looking out for each other. Still family. Still THEM.
#cr spoilers#beauregard lionett#caleb widogast#Empire siblings#I can't tell you the damage the wrap up episode did to my mind#The idea of Beau behind a desk and a working girl was hard even before kids were brought up#I'm very very aware it's a perfectly normal happiness to find#It just wasn't what I needed in projecting on her#Not yet#Anyway I love them and I love Beau so much
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yes c2 has been over for a long time and the critical role fandom has always had a glaring misogyny problem so this post doesn’t say anything new but idc!
i want to talk about the very stale take (which apparently still exists because i just saw it???) that “early campaign beau is hard to sympathize with because boohoo she’s mean :( and we don’t learn anything about her for a long time so i am simply incapable of liking her until she’s more agreeable for my misogynist brain :(” and idk about you but nothing says “i’m only watching cr for the men” more than that statement because it’s the biggest lie lmfao
from the very beginning it was clear beau had been mistreated in the past and was using her bravado to deflect. that’s just... using literally the most basic form of human intuition lmao. by episode four we know that her father paid the cobalt soul to take her in against her will and as early as episode two she tries to deflect any questions about her family/home. at the end of ep 4 we have more clues about her trauma/past than any of the other characters! and we know her I’m So Tough act is just that because she gravitates towards quite literally the first little girl they come across who needs help. marisha even says on talks machina that beau is projecting with toya, and idk about you but when a young woman who’s been shipped off by her father tries to help a little girl with no family, i think it’s really easy to put two and two together.
no, trauma is never an excuse for your behaviour whether it’s mild or not, but to say you can’t sympathize with early campaign beau with all of those context clues is fucking wild.
#c2 rewatch#i don't even think early beau is that bad but that's a post for another time#you all had no trouble sympathizing with caleb before you knew anything about his past but whatever! lmao#yes cr fandom is sexist blah blah not new info#but it's always wild just how much you're willing to show your asses like??? nothing subtle at all
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If Caleb gave Lucien a forehead kiss I think maybe he could have undoomed him from the narrative. Or perhaps broken through his control and reached Molly for a moment—
#I have so many feelings about Lucien lying in mollys bedroom#the one Caleb made just for him#with molly always in his ear reminding him how loved he was as tealeaf and#offering Lucien the chance to just walk away from all this—#the way lucien Wanted to take Caleb and Beau to cognouza with him—#just…Lucien feeling lonely and shutting everyone out even as the part of him that’s still#molly longs for that connection—-#the way Caleb is the one who got through to molly over and over in#the final battle and had the biggest effect on him and Lucien…
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I was rewatching the marisharaygun highlight vid of the m9's flawless heist (y'know for old times sake) and the moment I saw Travis' face when the first gravity sinkhole gets cast, I had to pause to fully process the realization that THISSS WILL BE ANIMATED!
IN ALL ITS DISASTEROUS GLORY!!!
he's so real for this reaction and I'll be using it at every opportunity
#like can u imagine the cuts from beau lying flush against a roof slowly pulling out two acid viles and MAYBE a dagger#to yasha weaving flower crowns inside fjords god-forsaken marine layer#to SEVERAL guys getting flung and CRONCHED into the ceiling#before caleb gives the very calm and collected and totally sane 'sarsaparilla'??#shits a fucking masterpiece in the making i tell ya#also the chapter notes on that vid are so fucking funny. Beau Becomes Dexter. Travis only speaks in nouns. Hot Pockets!#every instance of 'Dear [blank]: What the fuck man?' spoiler there are many instances#any my all time favorite: Caleb is Here to... Save... the Day...?#thats not even half of them. everyone go watch the marisharaygun highlight vids on yt they are perfection#critical role#cr2#the mighty nein#mighty nein#tm9#m9#yknow sometimes im so very comprehensive with my tagging system and sometimes im so indecisive and so forgetful#the mighty nein animated#c2e127#kinda wanna go and just rewatch the arc of them running for their lives from ikithon#its got big scooby doo running through so many doors that dont make sense energy#travis willingham#he is the peoples champion in reacting to insanity. he and ashley just get us fr
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modern day mighty nein college au but its the early aughts and jester has the most expensive sim plan ever because duh of course marion will get the best for her little girl and its also so that her little girl will be able to call and text her no matter how far apart they are and yeah jester does that but now unfortunately jester also blows up the rest of her friends phones and the nein have to learn how to carefully type their texts with as little vowels as possible because aint no way theyre spending more than twenty cents on a text to be able to fully respond to jesters insane messages and caleb yasha and cad dont even have phones but jester gets them phones just to be able to send them texts
#beaus parents got her a phone w a good sim plan but she threw that at a drunken assholes head the first chance she got#jesters phone has the most insane amount of cute and phallic keychains and the next time you see her theres even more and its to the point#where she carries around a backpack just to store her phone and her gajillion keychains#critical role#the mighty nein#mighty nein#jester lavorre#marion lavorre#caleb widogast#yasha nydoorin#fjord stone#beauregard lionett#veth brenatto#cr2#c2
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if fearne pickpockets a sending stone off of beau or caleb who would be the funniest for her to call. every option is killing me. yasha. essek. jester. astrid.
#now yasha is funny because she's going to make blatant threats since she can't immediately send and make sure beau's okay and no matter#how outlandish 'I'll fucking find you' might sound at first coming from someone in wildemount. that is a Threat. fearne doesn't even know.#essek will send and make sure everyone's okay and then have the most formal and polite conversation one can have with fearne.#ten years of jester has prepared him for this. she confuses him into admitting he's caleb's partner#jester and fearne. obvious. she sends and makes sure everyone's okay and then no one can get the stone away from fearne#bc she just found her new bestie. jester starts making plans to show up. here's how the entire m9 can cameo in c3#astrid is funny bc similar to the prev two she can make sure everyone's okay and then she's either going to try to interrogate fearne via#sending stone with mixed results (fearne flat out tells the truth but the truth is very confusing) or she leaves her on read
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Seriously, I do think Bells Hells having an overnight in Nicodranas, doing absolutely nothing of note in a beautiful seaside town after all these stressful recent events would do them a lot of good.
Yes, really, any town would do, going back to Yios would do it, but I'm saying Nicodranas specifically since Caleb and Beau are here, so it seems actually possible to end up there.
A lot of it is self-indulgence, but I do really think the party would benefit from taking a break in a seaside city nicknamed the Escape, a place where Bells Hells doesn't appear to have any shadows lurking over them there. Just fooling around and maybe some conversation.
#I also like to think they all would benefit from conversations with Caleb and Beau + the Nicodranas trio.#There's just something about the way they all are that I think hypothetical conversation even in philosophical sense would be fruitful.#About dunamancy. About gods and faith and Melora. About Ludinus. About fate or lack thereof and choices.#About power and control and temptation toward darker things. About agency and grasping it again (or perhaps for the first time).#About becoming. About becoming something you don't like or fear to be. About pacts and patrons and finding new ones.#Anyway anyway. Maybe I'll rewrite these tags into a post later.#Critical Role things#CR spoilers
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i know i’m constantly chewing drywall over shadowgast and it is because there’s so much to drive me insane there and i’m extremely fond of them and their batshit fire/mirror dynamic but if i even Think about essek’s induction to the mighty nein or his feelings toward and friendship with them i will lose my fucking mind
#thought about beau’s ‘fuck. i like him’ and yasha talking to him about loneliness and penance and him deferring to fjord when the tombtakers#showed up and veth working alongside him and caleb in his little wizard laboratory and also the veth essek anxiety drinking and the obvious#relief when caduceus enters a room and the way that caleb gave essek what molly gave him. mollymauk changed essek just as much as any of the#nein and does he even know it?#and of COURSE there’s the EVERYTHING about the insane wizard romance. but then i’ve saved jester for last because truly TRULY essek was only#ever able to become who he was by the end of the campaign because of her#essek thelyss is an interesting character for me for a number of reasons but maybe most of all because he’s sort of emblematic of who the#mighty nein are and how they interact with the world#practically every guest on c2 talks about how meeting this party of assholes changed their character decidedly for the better and yeah that#REALLY is who they are as a group#and it’s most obvious in jester and mollymauk#those two catalyzed positive change in the party itself throughout the course of the entire campaign. we don’t have a mighty nein without#them. but that becomes a key trait of the group as a whole#i like them a completely normal amount i promise#critical role#essek thelyss
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What's the bet Vox Machina are gearing up to come wreck shit because "They hurt our Kiki!"
Oh there's no doubt that the minute Vex finds out (which might take a minute because of, you know, the applebee solstice) she's going to summon absolutely EVERYONE. Percy's probably working on a telephone but will happily bring out a new gun he's been working on. Pike will close the shop the MOMENT her connection to Serenrae is even slightly broken and will run as fast as her little legs will take her to the castle and that's half of VM right there.
We already know Scanlan is on Marquet, he'll get there first if Kiki is still on the continent (my headcanon is he's traveling with Grog but that's just me).
Hell, Kima will probably join them if not Allura as well. We still dont know if tree-stride is a thing or not but if it does happen to work still then Vilya will be able to get them around even if Allura cant, and if all else fails? Whitestone has an airship.
Their first mistake was hurting Kiki-- but when Kiki tells them that they orb'd Vax?
Quite possibly the only thing scarier then an angry Imogen is an angry Vex'ahlia. Ludinus doesn't stand a chance if the band gets back together.
#TLOVM#anon ask#this is just my take but Ludinus done fucked up#That's not even including the fact that he also hurt Beau and Caleb#Veth learning her eldest son is collared? She's about to WILD OUT and Kill#Yasha learning her wife and the mother of her adopted kids is in chains?#Those kids are getting dropped off with Aunckle Dairon and shits going down
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An interesting aspect of Laudna and Imogen's relationship and how it has developed is the fact that they got together early in their campaign, long before either of them had any chance to work through their respective issues. Vax confessed his feelings for Keyleth early on (relatively so; c1 had been going for a while before it started streaming), but she explicitly turned him down at the time, and they didn't actually get together until she felt she was ready, later in the campaign. Percy and Vex didn't get together until after Percy had worked through his figurative and literal inner demons. Jester and Fjord didn't get together until he had moved away from Uk'otoa and his self-worth issues, and she from her romanticized ideas of romance. Yasha and Beau didn't become a couple until both of them had moved away from their self-destructive tendencies and Yasha had let go of Zuala and Beau of Jester. Caleb and Essek didn't get together until the epilogue, when Caleb finally let go of the past and embraced the future.
When Laudna and Imogen got together, Laudna was at one of her lowest points (and has since started digging), having just invited Delilah back in, and Imogen was (is) still struggling against the temptation of Predathos. While Imogen has since gone great strides in growing, Laudna has regressed, using her feelings for Imogen as an excuse to further give in to Delilah to protect her. She's too bogged down by her own self-worth issues to uphold a healthy relationship, and keeps hurting Imogen by hurting herself, not realizing how or why this upsets Imogen.
And I can't help but wonder, would Percy and Vex's relationship have been as destructive had they gotten together before or during the Briarwoods arc? Jester and Fjord if they got together during the pirates arc? Yasha and Beau if they got together before or just after Obann, when they were both self-destructing massively? Caleb and Essek if they got together while they were still low-key manipulating and honeypotting each other for information?
But even without the romance, Laudna and Imogen likely wouldn't have escaped the situation they're now in. They started out already kind of co-dependent, and remind me of Vax & Vex and Caleb & Nott in that way. But whereas the twins and Caleb and Nott's arcs had them learn to question each other and embrace love for other people rather than isolate themselves, Imogen and Laudna has only gotten more entrenched in each other's issues, and more unwilling to push each other to grow.
#critical role#cr3#cr3 spoilers#imogen temult#laudna#not sure if i'm going anywhere specific with this. they just intrigue me#at this point it feels equally likely for them to end things amicably/work things out and get the cottagecore ending/tragically selfdestruc#i should point out that i love this shit. messy relationships my beloved#nella talks cr#imodna#southern gothic
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maybe if we EVER GET SOME PRIVATE ROOMS jfc is everybody gonna have to continue to play slumber party in tents with 8 separate beds and NO PRIVACY forever???
Spending my weekend manifesting Orym and Dorian kissing in the Chetney museum.
#beau voice: THERE'S NO PRIVACY IN THIS HOUSE#seriously matthew#can we have some CLOSED DOORS pls#boys need to kiss and they are nervous so they need SPACE#a room of one's own#if you will#dorym#critical role#every time Robbie goes#“oh so there are eight beds all in this one shared open room? okay cool” i die#he gets it#he knows the moment won't happen for Dorian in front of everybody#PRIVACY prayer circle#dorian storm#orym#campaign 3#my private war#the war for JUST ONE NIGHT where they get a hotel room together#jfc man#orym x dorian#orym of the air ashari#they NEED it#i need it#even Laudna and Imogen get the one guest room at Caleb and Essek's house#ffs#i am down on my knees begging
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