#eu skywalker solo family

[prankprincess123]

Also Tahiri Veila who is a human Jedi bound to Anakin Solo by force prophecy, but was adopted by Tuskens as a toddler (which causes some drama), and is an absolute ray of ADHD sunshine when you meet her, and THEN her story starts because she's still only 9yo by that point.

And Allana Djo-Solo who due to the aforementioned Game of Thrones level political drama as well as having a Sith dad, is raised by her grandparents as her grandma's padawan, and also has the same ridiculous animal-friendship level as Ezra does.

And how can you mention Tenel Ka without also talking about how she's ALSO part of one of the lightside clans of Dathomir, and has a freaking rancor tooth as the hilt of her lightsaber! Or mentioning the fact that Jaina has a habit of stealing her enemies' ships and is worshiped as a trickster goddess by some of them! And Mara's whole "I'll get around to killing you later" thing with Luke even when they're married and she's on the Jedi Council

And that's literally just the girls who are part of the Skywalker Disaster Family (whether officially or not). There are TONS more.

One reason not to ignore the Star Wars EU novels is all of the badass female characters whose stories you would otherwise miss out on!!! 

Tenel Ka Djo - Overcomes the loss of her arm in an accident and becomes an amazing Jedi Knight.Also she comes from a matriarchal society with Game of Thrones level political intrigue. 

Mara Jade Skywalker- The black widow of the star wars universe, she is an extremely skilled former assassin  for the Empire who becomes a Jedi Knight. 

Jaina Solo- Amazing pilot, mechanic and Jedi Knight who is tempted by, but eventually resists the dark side of the force. 

Princess Leia as a BOTH a lightsaber wielding Jedi Knight and a skilled politician ! 

There are many many more but these are my favs 

[my-last-brain-cell-is-socrates]

Star Wars Legends was made for bitches with family issues (it's me. I'm bitches)

[holonetwork]

The Skywalker Twins and the Expanded Universe This graphic pulls together quotes Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher have made over the years regarding their characters' futures in the EU. Although neither of the two actors were readers of the EU material, they knew of the goings-on of their characters through friends and family informing them of the events of the novels. Carrie was said to have picked up a copy of Courtship of Princess Leia in the '90s due to liking the cover art. In 1997, she was interviewed for Star Wars Galaxy #12, where she provided some remarks shown here; later, in 2000, she also commented a bit on the subject of Leia's EU life at the Star Wars Weekends event at Disney Hollywood Studios. When her fictional twins of Jacen and Jaina were brought up, Carrie asked if they behaved themselves, and when an audience member said they did not, Carrie quipped, "They don't behave, seriously? That sounds like they'd be my kids." Carrie would sometimes remark that her preferred lightsaber color would be purple, if she was to have one; the closest this came to being realized is Leia's reddish-pinkish (nearly purple) lightsaber, as presented on the Japanese and American covers of Star by Star, in the New Jedi Order. Mark has remarked over the course of several years on his EU self, repeatedly commenting that he approved of Luke's relationship to Mara. In 2004, Mark even took to the stage with Shannon McRandle, Mara's actress for the trading cards; Shannon says they got along well, and Mark enjoyed meeting her, with him saying later to Insider, "The model who plays her is just adorable." The quotes compiled here for Mark's section are from Insider #73, from 2004, a Tweet of his from 2016, and a Hyperspace chat Mark conducted with fans in 2004. Three pieces of art were used to create this piece: the immaculate Star Wars #20 by Hugh Fleming for the starfields, a piece illustrated of the Solo family for West End Games' The Last Command Sourcebook, and a drawing of the Skywalker family by FalconFan on DeviantArt.

[laferelady]

The women of the Skywalker family (neuronet arts):

Shmi Skywalker

Padme Amidala

Leia Organa Solo

Mara Jade Skywalker

Jaina Solo Fel

Tenel Ka Djo

Vestara Khai

Allana Solo

Morrigan Corde

Droo Rawk

Marasiah Fel

Ania Solo

[jbk405]

I think I've found one of the key reasons why I prefer the old Expanded Universe to the current Star Wars content: Unique types of villains.

More specifically, people who weren't just Evil Force Users With Long Robes And Red Lightsabers. While there were always a few Darth Vader-clones that popped up to fill up space, so many of the Arc Villains were distinct not just in personality, but also how they were dangerous.

Grand Admiral Thrawn was a military tactician, which wasn't the point of any of the main villains in the Original Trilogy. Grand Moff Tarkin was a "Build a bigger superweapon and bludgeon the galaxy into submission" kind of villain, and Vader and the Emperor were mystical dark wizards. This isn't a complaint or criticism, but just pointing out that military tactics were never on display in the films since that wasn't the type of story they were telling. But Thrawn didn't have prophetic powers or Destiny, he had to analyze and plan around what he could learn about his adversaries. It's a different type of fight than Literal Magic. In the original Thrawn Trilogy, Captain Pellaeon frequently internally narrates how different Thrawn's style of leadership was to either Vader or the Emperor (Even if his art-analysis did verge on magic by itself).

Ysanne Isard was a political and/or espionage manipulator, which was even less a point of the Original Trilogy than military tactics were. She took advantage of the realities of actually needing to build a nation out of an underground military movement. With all of the dirty gutter politics, self-serving agendas, and logistics that doom so many revolutionary movements. I'm not as big a fan of her arc as I was when I was younger (I re-read the Rogue Squadron novels a few years ago and the writing quality is not as good as I remember, and Isard's plans frankly don't hold a lot of water), but the concept is still fantastic.

Warlord Zsinj on the surface seems like a merger of Thrawn and Isard -- he's a military commander who specializes in espionage -- but he also has a big focus that neither of them demonstrated: Business. While he still blows stuff up with his giant space ships and is sowing dissent through brainwashing and spycraft, he's simultaneously establishing a galaxy-wide network of completely-legitimate commercial businesses that he owns through untraceable pseudonyms. They fund his campaigns, give him influence on planets outside of his direct control, and allow him to control resources without any of his adversaries even being aware of it.

Even one-shot enemies like the Ssi-ruuk were so unique: They're invading the galaxy because their technology is powered by living souls and they want to harvest all life in the galaxy. That's messed up, and so distinct from the general "Take over the world" motivation of the Empire.

But as time went on, more and more of the enemies were just "Darth Vader Again". Another Jedi who fell to the Dark Side, or another long-lost schism of the Sith who rediscovered mainstream galactic society, or some other thing that is eventually resolved by a one-on-one lightsaber duel and a personal grudge against the Skywalker or Solo families. It definitely felt like they were out of ideas and kept running through the same villains over and over again.

This kicked into high gear after the Prequels came out, and continued in the new continuity after the EU was rebranded as "Legends".

I wish we could go back to the idea that there could be an enemy who wasn't super powerful in the force and consumed by Hatred Of The Jedi. With their own skills, their own methods, and something that makes them more than just another wannabe-Sauron. Pirates who are just pirates, marauding ex-Imperial Warlords who are just marauding ex-Imperial Warlords, and corrupt politicians who are just corrupt politicians, instead of revealing that Palpatine returned (somehow) all over again.

[kylanfedje]

Disney Star Wars Retrospective - Episode I: The Phantom Mouse

A long time ago, in a conference room far, far away....

They say the pen is mightier than the sword. Or is it the lightsaber? On October 30, 2012, a few strokes of ink were all it took for one of the most lucrative media enterprises of all time to be subsumed into arguably the largest entertainment empire in history. I am talking of course about the $4.5 billion sale of Lucasfilm to the Walt Disney Company, which brought iconic film franchises like Indiana Jones and Star Wars under the ever-expanding Disney umbrella of intellectual properties.

While Indiana Jones has been no box-office slouch, George Lucas’ epic space fantasy saga was the real prize in the transaction. And the new regime at Lucasfilm, headed by Kathleen Kennedy, longtime movie producer and frequent collaborator of Steven Spielberg’s, could hardly wait for the dust to settle before greenlighting a series of moves that would define the franchise for the decade to come.

Shortly after the purchase was announced, so too were a new trio of Star Wars films set after the Original Trilogy, which would pick up the stories of Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa, Han Solo, and a host of new characters as they sought to protect the galaxy against a resurgent evil, seeking to destroy the peace brought by the establishment of a New Galactic Republic. Additionally, the company also announced plans for a series of anthology films, which were to release between the latest installments in the Sequel Trilogy. However, to compensate for the number of resources devoted to such an ambitious film schedule, the fan-favorite Star Wars: The Clone Wars series, which had aired five seasons on Cartoon Network since 2008, would come to an end. Alongside these announcements was also the confirmation that the Expanded Universe (EU) material, the books and comics that had filled out so much of the galaxy’s lore before, between, and after the films, was no longer considered canon for the purposes of new Star Wars projects and would be reclassified as “Legends.”

Many of the creatives behind The Clone Wars continued onto Rebels, including showrunner Dave Filoni, and as a result, many storylines and characters from the former were brought into the latter in one way or another. Fan favorites like Captain Rex and Hondo Ohnaka would return, as well as lesser-known ones like Saw Gerrera and Bo-Katan Kryze would appear, though rarely for more than a few episodes at a time at most. But easily the most prevalent of The Clone Wars originals to join the cast of Rebels was the one and only Ahsoka Tano, the former Padawan of Anakin Skywalker who, after being falsely accused of bombing the Jedi Temple on Coruscant and murdering a witness to cover it up, decided to walk away from the Order, even after she was exonerated on all charges. Since The Clone Wars hadn’t reached its natural endpoint of the Jedi Purge (commonly known as Order 66) before its untimely cancellation, fans were left wondering what fate may have befallen their favorite ex-Jedi at that critical moment in Star Wars lore. Now, they would at least know she had survived Emperor Palpatine’s directive to rid the galaxy of the greatest threat to his power, even if the specifics of how she’d done so were left unsaid at the time.

However, Rebels was hardly a direct successor to The Clone Wars in terms of its general tone and art direction, both of which were noticeably altered from the relatively mature and moody atmosphere of its predecessor, particularly its later seasons — though Rebels would eventually reach similar levels of emotional and thematic intensity as The Clone Wars had by the end of its run. But while the lighter tone of Rebels can be easily attributed to a desire by the franchise’s new overlords to keep the franchise more in line with Disney’s “family friendly” brand ethos, the change in art direction is more indicative of a broader trend within the franchise that began in this time and arguably persists to this day, which is an almost compulsive reverence for the Original Trilogy and its iconography.

It’s no secret to anyone familiar with the history of cinema that the Star Wars prequels were not very well-received upon their initial release, though they have received a critical reappraisal by fans in recent years. Either way, when Lucasfilm went to work on their new slate of Star Wars projects in 2013, the general consensus was still that the Prequel Trilogy was a collection of overly ambitious and poorly executed disasterpieces, a fact they were like well aware of and would make them want to avoid whatever associations with it they could when developing new material. This might also help to explain why The Clone Wars, a series set in the midst of the trilogy, was cancelled so unceremoniously at the time, with only a 13-episode sixth season released straight to Netflix, a handful of unfinished animatics dumped on the Star Wars website, and other unproduced story arcs being adapted into quasicanonical books and comics to fill the void left in its wake.

What this represents is a desire among the creative minds behind the franchise towards inserting Original Trilogy “fan service” into their work. The style of Ralph McQuarrie’s concept art, while critical in shaping the visual language of Star Wars, is in truth only recognizable as such to the most die-hard of fans and thus provides no more — or less — value to the average viewer, and therefore can be seen as a decision made primarily to cater towards the superfans while not alienating newer or less knowledgeable ones. Likewise, the series’ (re)introduction of Grand Admiral Thrawn in the third season can easily be understood as yet another case of this phenomenon, albeit in a slightly different manner.

The character of Thrawn was first created for Timothy Zahn’s Heir to the Empire trilogy of novels, a core component of the EU/Legends canon written in the early 90s during that time when Star Wars was mostly seen as “uncool nerd shit” to the general public. But for the fans who grew up reading and loving these books, they may have felt hurt and betrayed when Disney came in and told them these stories were no longer canon. So, when Thrawn reappeared in Rebels with the same character design and personality as he had in the novels, it signaled to them that the franchise was still willing to look to the EU/Legends for inspiration and would even draw directly from them, thus rewarding their continued devotion to the franchise’s extended lore.

That’s not to say that casual fans were necessarily turned off by this either. If anything, because the Heir to the Empire novels were no longer canon, it was easier for them to only see Thrawn as the version that appeared in Rebels and therefore discard the ancillary material as unnecessary to understanding who he was, where he came from, and what he wanted. Those novels still existed if they wanted to dive deeper, but it was ultimately inessential to following the show’s plot, and thus wouldn’t make newer or more casual fans feel like they had “homework” to do before they could start enjoying the franchise’s current marquee offerings.

In a similar vein to Thrawn’s role in the series is that of Darth Maul, the failed apprentice to Darth Sidious who somehow survived being sliced in half by Obi-wan Kenobi during a duel on Naboo in The Phantom Menace. It could have — and probably should have — been a disaster class in fan service when he was brought back in The Clone Wars, but to the show’s credit, it went to great lengths to make it work both narratively and thematically. It presented his miraculous survival as the product of pure hatred, channeled through the Force, and directed towards the man who nearly killed him and the master who abandoned him. Through much of his screentime both shows, he is motivated almost singularly by a desire for revenge against both Kenobi and Sidious, eventually culminating in a final rematch between him and Kenobi in the Tatooine desert that ends with him being slain and set free at last from his eternal torment.

For Rebels viewers who had perhaps seen the main saga films — Episodes I-VI at the time — but missed The Clone Wars, Maul’s return would come as an utter shock. The last they had seen of this man he had been falling down a reactor shaft in two pieces; now he was alive and well and menacing the galaxy yet again. When did this happen? How did this happen? They would have to watch The Clone Wars or read a Wookiepedia article to learn for themselves, since the show mostly assumed you were already aware of his return. Thankfully, the entire show was available on a popular streaming service and came highly regarded by much of the fandom, so the reward for “doing their homework” might be seen as worthwhile. Not to mention its arc-based structure lent well to isolating a few specific episodes as “essential,” instead of needing to view the entire show to understand how and why Maul had come back from the dead. And yet, the prospect of there being “homework” at all for an animated show geared towards children and teens might have also turned away some of those who had been lured in by the stormtroopers and lightsabers they once knew and loved.

All told, the first few years of Star Wars under its new management indicated a great deal of how the next decade of Star Wars media would play out. Anything the fans didn’t like — the prequels, mainly — could be mostly ignored. Aspects of the franchise beloved by fans but unknown to broader audiences — The Clone Wars and the EU /Legends— may continue to appear, but only when it can contribute positively to the story already being told. And above all, stick to what everyone knows and loves as much as you can — the aesthetics and iconography of the Original Trilogy: X-Wings and TIE Fighters, Rebels and Empire. These were as good as gospel in Disney’s new church of Star Wars, a fact which was only proved truer when the highly anticipated Episode VII hit theaters in December 2015, the first theatrical live-action Star Wars movie in a decade, and the first since the Disney buyout.

[walkawaytall]

Oh no, I’m participating in Star Wars discourse.

Uh, so there’s a post floating around that I’m not reblogging mainly because it’s just this person’s headcanon and, whatever, people can have headcanons, but the main points they make in the midst of talking about their headcanon that I’ll be addressing are:

Leia and Han getting married and having kids is the most boring thing you can do with Leia

Leia should be a Jedi like every other dang Skywalker because somehow continuing an assumed dynasty isn’t the most boring choice you can make for her

Leia is more cut out to handle lack of attachment than Luke which we know because of her lack of response to Alderaan being destroyed

Leia and Han shouldn’t get married or even be around each other much because Han is a wandering soul and needs to travel and go places

Leia never expresses a desire for marriage or children in the OT, so removing these things won’t contradict George Lucas’ canon

And, look, these are just…missing the point of the character growth that occurs in these two during the OT.

(there's just a whole-ass essay below the cut if anyone cares to read about the many thoughts I have on Leia Organa and Han Solo.)

So, I'm not saying existing or past canon/EU has done it right, but I disagree with the statement that having them marry and live kind of basic lives is the most boring choice. If that's all there was to it, sure, but those two choices by themselves show a monumental amount of character growth for both Leia and Han. (I mean, frankly, I think "Skywalker = Jedi every time no matter what" is a pretty boring choice storytelling wise, but I also think the Jedi on the whole are incredibly boring characters, so, uh...I'm biased.)

Leia was never going to live a quiet life even if Alderaan hadn't been destroyed. Like, she did not have that option, period. She would have either remained in politics or taken over as queen, may or may not have had to marry for political reasons, and may or may not have been involved with the Rebellion. Her life was chaos starting as a teen and she had no reason to believe she wouldn't die living a hectic and chaotic life.

And then she loses everything. This isn't emphasized in the movies obviously because they are fun family romps and not gritty dramas, but, good night, in a single second, she loses every family member, nearly every person she knows, every place she finds most familiar and comfortable, everything and to top it all off, the guilt that it's happened because of her unwillingness to give up the Alliance will probably always be there. She was tortured, they lost lives in battle, and, yeah, they destroy the Death Star, but at the end of that day, literally all she has left is the Alliance and those three pilots who managed to unlock her cell door without too much trouble.

I don't know about you, but I'd be straight-up shut down emotionally at that point. Like, I don't think PTSD even covers what Leia probably has going on in her head. And I think that's kind of what we see in ESB (I know the filmmakers weren’t thinking in terms of PTSD, but there are still hints of it there regardless). She's angry, she's afraid of losing people (she's obviously pissed Han is leaving after he said he'd stay, but also, there's a scene that was cut -- a good move in my opinion because the dialogue is beyond dramatic and Carrie seems out of it, but it stands that this was the intended source of Leia’s frustration -- where Luke is telling Leia he's leaving the Alliance for Dagobah and she is extremely upset that both he and Han are leaving, goes on a whole rant about how she should know better than to trust anyone but herself, etc.), and when she finally lets Han in, she promptly loses him and nearly loses Luke.

And then the events of ROTJ happen and she finds out that the man who tortured her, who stood idly by while her entire planet was destroyed, who tortured the man she loves and handed him off to the space mob to be murdered, who cut off her brother's hand and nearly allowed him to die, who has terrorized the Galaxy in general, that guy is her bio dad. And that guy is the entire reason she's Force-sensitive.

Leia stopping her Jedi training in the new canon was for a dumb reason, I agree there. Leia not wanting anything to do with the thing that, from her point of view, nearly ruined her life and the lives of those she loves about a thousand times over...I dunno, I think that's way more interesting than her just going, "Ope, I'm a Skywalker! You know what that means! Gotta be a Jedi!" And as far as her being more of a natural at it...do we know that Leia is better at healthy non-attachment than Luke? Like, any response to a planet being destroyed could easily just be a trauma response. Is shutting down like that good, actually? Or is it just going to cause problems down the road, Anakin-style?

I don't know, I just think that after living through all of that as well as a freaking war, girly might want a quiet life -- that she gets to choose -- with a husband -- who she gets to choose -- and kids -- who she gets to raise without the threat of the Empire or her nightmare of a biological father looming over their lives. And the very fact that she's able to open herself up to that sort of love and affection when the fear that it might all be ripped away from her is likely ever-present is a big deal. Her having kids knowing they'll likely be Force-sensitive even though that aspect of her biology terrifies her is a big deal. And as far as her not expressing a desire for marriage and kids in the OT...I mean, Leia isn't given the opportunity to express her desire for much in the OT, let's be real (she also never expresses a desire to become a Jedi in the OT either. We can't use what Leia didn't express in the OT to dictate whether she wants or doesn't want something is what I'm saying). They're at war. She's a military leader. She probably can't even hazard wishing for anything beyond waking up the next day. But that's not to say she didn't want such things or grow to want such things once she felt it was safe to do so. We literally don't know, but I don't think the absence of that expressed desire is indicative of anything.

As far as Han goes, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure in every iteration of his story, his itchy feet weren't like...a part of his personality. He had a highly traumatic childhood that left him with few options and ended up living a transient lifestyle out of necessity. He actually seems remarkably easy to keep around if you don't treat him like garbage. I mean, he's given exactly one day of friendship, and he sticks around with the Rebellion for three years before some run-in with a bounty hunter makes him realize he needs to take care of his debt with Jabba. He's not leaving just for funsies or because he's bored or just really needs to be a smuggler again...and he seems legitimately sad have to leave when he's not busy getting pissed at Leia for not having the emotional response he wants her to have (first half of ESB Han is being a big ol' baby and I'm perfectly fine admitting that). And what character growth to see Han "I'm in it for the money" Solo learn to care for his friends, learn to support a cause, learn to love Leia when he's spent so much of his life unattached. Han making boring life choices is indicative of character growth and learning to care about others more than himself. What a lovely thing for this man to learn.

The call for Leia and Han to remain living separate lives but still committed to one another kind of demands that they move backward in character growth in my opinion. We have two people who are in rough places due, by and large, to trauma, who eventually open up to one another and seem better for it and then they...just go back to what they were doing before except they occasionally see each other? Why would they want that? They've grown as people, they've won a dang war, and they're finally able to live somewhat securely. Why wouldn't they want to live basic lives when they were denied the privilege of such choices for so long? And how is them making choices based on their love for another person — love that they had a heck of a time coming to terms with — boring?

[tljisthegoat]

Ben Solo Lives

Bring Back Ben Solo (Future Star Wars Trilogy with Reylo & Star Wars EU Reintegration into Canon. Whatever tf that means anymore lmao)

Dark Rey & The Final Order (It's always gotta get worse before it gets better unfortunately...especially in Star Wars)

Ben Solo meets Anakin & Luke in The WBW, it basically writes itself if you give a fuck about The Skywalker Family which Disney clearly doesn't 🤬

You know Carrie Fisher would be whopping Disney's pathetic ass for not bringing back Adam Driver as Ben Solo yet. She'd be making Disney feel like Drake after Kendrick gave him the Anakin Mustafar Special 😂

[ambafaerie]

Sometimes I go and reminisce about the EU Skywalker - Solo family then walk back on my nostalgia upon remembering Han and Leia’s descendants would revive the Empire as their monarchy.

[tredawakandan]

According to leaks awhile ago Disney was possibly entertaining the notion of somehow reviving Kylo Ren/Ben Solo in a future movie. I would definitely be here for it. One of the things that many star wars fans loved about the EU was the Skywalker Family drama & lineage. Hell my first ever Star Wars story reading was the Cade Skywalker stories.. Disney has already shown and made it clear it's not bringing back old concepts in the same way. I feel Bringing back Ben Solo and having him and Rey establish the Skywalker lineage in this new continuity would be a great salvage. Hell probably would make the lineage stronger 😅. Not to mention a lot of fans loved Mara Jade and Luke Skywalker relationship. So the Ben & Ren story could also serve to fill that void. Not to mention the lack of power Luke was in comparison to his legends self. In this way this New Ben Solo could be what Luke was to Legends. Meaning this overpowered Skywalker Jedi Grandmaster. It's said the George Lucas mentioned that Luke was what Anakin could've become had he been whole and not half cyborg 😅. In this new canons we have Anakin fell and due to injuries couldn't fulfill his potential.. Luke gave up being a Jedi for a decade+(Seemingly in Canon he didn't achieve even half as much as he did in legends) ..So Ben Solo to me (with fully functioning limbs + being a practicing Jedi for decades)could finally be that character in modern canon.

How would they bring him back. Listen Anakin is a literal chosen one who was created by the force 😂. Have either him or the force bring back Ben as a act of balance for the force😅.

With Grogu being able to live a long time + a New Skywalker lineage their will be countless new star wars stories to tell . Hopefully Disney takes it more serious when planning the future movies💯

[ahaura]

the sequel trilogy isn't real to me. i have like 14 different versions in my head that are combinations of other people's good takes and my own biases. changes range from more eu-suited to throwing out everything bec it's been a few years and i can do whatever i want<3 ok so hear me out:

Post-OT:

Luke still starts his very own Jedi academy. Based on the OT and what we know about Luke there is no way he would be using the same tactics the Jedi Order used like separating children from their families and teaching them never to confront or acknowledge their "bad" feelings. Obviously he wouldn't be *perfect* but I have no doubt he'd be compassionate and understanding. And, since he's ushering in a new generation of Jedi, he would, in a way, be learning along with his students. Studying the surviving records of Jedi teachings and figuring out what works, etc.

Han and Leia get married but divorce after 1 year maximum. Of course they are still amicable and very close friends and love each other but divorce for the win.

ST:

Regarding Ben S*l* I have several thoughts. You can decide which I'm serious about. 1) never exists 2) gets aborted 3) is still born but does not become K*lo R*en. I'm not saying he can't have struggles, complex thoughts, and/or questions about his legacy - being the son of General Han Solo and Senator Leia Organa, last of the Royal House of Alderaan, one of the only living Alderaanians in the galaxy, and chiefly instrumental in the period of rebuilding following the collapse of the Galactic Empire, Nephew to Jedi Luke Skywalker, Grandson to Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker, etc etc. But I really don't see him falling to the Dark Side. Whatever the case, I would only have him mentioned on-screen or include him in-passing at most. I don't know anything about him and I don't care to.

The old guard would be largely absent because this is a new story with new characters and a fresh start. The most I can see is Leia being shown on a holotape or in passing, a cameo MAYBE. But I would not include the others.

There can still be holdouts of the Empire abound; I don't see why a rogue element like the First Order couldn't still emerge. I think Finn being a stormtrooper and then deserting is an integral part of his story and it's still an awesome start to his own odyssey. He would be the main character and be Force-sensitive. I would want his past properly explored and addressed; there's so much that could be done both internally and externally.

To conveniently sidestep employing legacy characters AND using Empire 2.0 as the main antagonists (no Snoke or Palpatine to be seen here!) I would do something, like, have the trilogy start in a familiar place. Somewhere where it's plausible for Poe and Finn to meet and for Finn to defect and all that good stuff. But then there would be some plot reason they have to go to somewhere in the Outer Rim or even uncharted space, either by volunteer or some sort of mishap that lands them there.

Not sure about the central antagonists beyond that it would be nice to have a unique Sith threat that wasn't a cannibalized hodgepodge from KOTOR and the EU. And not one-dimensional. With a new generation of Jedi emerging slowly but surely in the Core Systems under Luke's teachings so do potential Sith initiates in other places (balance, and all that). It could mirror Luke and try to expand Sith doctrine and try to avoid what led to the collapse of past Sith empires and the most recent collapse of Palpatine's. Or something else entirely. I would also add a non-Force using faction in addition to the Sith for fun.

Finn COULD learn from Luke once his powers are uncovered. Maybe he begins his teachings but is swept away or is en route to after a mission but never gets the chance. Or maybe it's something he has to explore and navigate all on his own, aside from possible additional characters who are either not Force sensitive and are doing their best with what they know or actual Force users. I can't remember the new canon for lightsabers but I don't care about it and I think it would be so, so sweet to see Finn get his kyber crystal.

Rey, Poe, and Rose still all appear. Unclear as to specifics but I would leave out everything stupid and bad the ST did to them. Rey would still be an orphan. I don't really like her as Force-user but if she HAD to be it shouldn't be a part of the central story. I never watched the last movie of the ST but iirc they made Poe a spice dealer??? which he would NOT be.

As far as I ships are concerned idk. Finnrey, Finnpoe, "rey is a lesbian and this ship fucking sux!" dot jpg. I remember FinnReyPoe too but it's mostly a blur to me now.

One teen tiny Padme mention. Because I have not heard her name in a movie since 2007 and it drives me fucking crazy that they never uttered in the Obi Wan Series.

Also the Obi Wan series doesn't exist to me either, like, in regards to these ideas. Don't care.

Additions:

I would involve Mandalorians. Probably borrowing from EU/Legends.

other stuff too. i dont remember anymore. this is 1 variation among lik 24. mutuals free free to reply and chime in/add ur own/anything.

[the-obiwan-for-me]

SSTW Ask:

I’m not sure if you’ve ever thought about this, but if you have it would mean the world to me if you told me about whatever you have thought about, even if it’s just tiny snippets.

Basically, I’m curious about the younger Kryzes and if they ever choose to get married (if they weren’t already in a relationship) and have kids. By “younger Kyrzes” I mean Korkie, Ahsoka, Lily, Avi, Eli, and Edi, as well as the Skywalker children, and of course special mention goes to Sabine and Tristan.

If they ever have kids, how many do each of them have? What are their genders? What about their names? Do any of them marry a different species and have hybrid children? What about adoption?

If you’ve thought this far ahead, what are the kids like, that is, their personality?

BTW it’s totally okay if you’ve never thought about this and have no answers, but if you do I’d absolutely LOVE to hear your thoughts.

Thanks in advance! You’re the greatest.

Oh wow! These are great questions. I know some of this, but not all of it, and I am happy to share because I don't know/highly doubt I will ever write this far into the family's future (save one story, which I will point out when I get to it).

Korkie and Aled get married at the end of MTB (last chapter....it's glossed over, but that's why the whole family is there). They will eventually adopt a child, probably a little girl (why I get Cam and Mitch vibes from Modern Family, I will never know).

Ahsoka has always ready pretty ace to me in canon (her weird jealousy over Lux and Steela Gerrera in the Onderon arc of TCW felt very forced and I have beef with EKJ about....well, TONS of things, but she doesn't even read her own writing well...the interactions between Ahsoka- wait. You know what. This isn't the place to rant about EKJ). ANYWAY, my Ahsoka is ace and aromantic and goes on to live a very happy life helping the galaxy through the RHI and other means.

Lily has yet to tell me what she wants in this department. I have a little storyline in my head about her meeting someone, but it hasn't really formed into anything meaningful yet.

Avi definitely gets married. To a boy from Alderaan that she meets at uni on Coruscant. He has no idea she's royalty for a good while, and is far more excited that she's cousins with the famous singer, Eli Kryze.

Edi and Eli I don't know yet.

The twins, well, I have a whole scenario that gets Han, Luke, and Leia meeting up, so Leia and Han will marry (this is the story I want to write, because the idea of Han marrying into this clan is hysterical to me). Luke will somehow meet Mara Jade as he goes about the galaxy being some sort of lay-Jedi.

Past this generation, I have no real clue! Avi will have children, for sure, and Leia and Han will have some variation of the twins and Anakin Solo from Legends/EU.

But, just know, that in THIS galaxy, they Kryzes are a large and growing and happy clan, unlike in canon *sob*

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10 Characters 10 Fandoms 10 5 Tags

Rules: choose 10 favorite characters from 10 different fandoms -- no double dipping! Then tag friends or mutuals to complete the game as well.

Tagged by @apocalypticavolition (who I extremely blame for making me pick favorites. I am now the Miette meme sending this mutual to jail for 1,000 years)

Top 10

Jaina Solo of the Star Wars Expanded Universe (technically its now the Legends Continuity, but fuck Disney for that) - The unhinged drama that the extended Skywalker and Solo clans has a special place in my heart, but Jaina's A+ mix of badassery, trauma, angst, communication issues, and severe allergy to feelings makes every stage of her life an absolute treat to watch. That and the fact that she is the last Solo kid standing as of Disney's murder of the EU makes her the best in my book. Teenage me DESPERATELY wanted to be Jaina Solo. Adult me wants to give her a hug and take her out for a synthale.

Lady Sybil Ramkin Vimes of Discworld - This might be a low-key surprise pick, since I have previously cited Granny Weatherwax and Sam Vimes as Discworld favorites, but Lady Sybil also holds a special place in my heart, because she is literally an amazing partner to Sam without losing any of her own interests and personality. She is also a complete badass in a quiet, competent way that adult, married me would give literal years of her life to have. And then there was the time she absolutely let Serafine HAVE IT because she was pregnant, being held hostage, and Sam's life was in danger, but the goddamn tipping point was that Serafine DIDNT RESPOND TO THE ANNUAL LETTERS. Perfection.

Iskierka from the Temeraire series - She breathes fire, she is a holy terror, and she is basically a pirate masquerading as a soldier. Iskierka is a queen without equal.

Briar Moss from the Circle Universe - I just desperately want to give this poor traumatized boy a hug, but he already has three sisters and two mothers to do that for him. I genuinely think Briar's three books are the best written and executed in the Circle Universe, and his journey feels deeply grounded in a way that the girls' don't, because within their origins and cultures, the girls all came from some level of privilege. Briar is a grounding force that I deeply appreciate.

Dau from the Warrior Bards trilogy - Dau, much like Briar, is in desperate need of a hug. Another traumatized boy, but his one literally has to go on a three-book arc to learn how to feel his feelings and how to people. Basically, we have to socialize him, and watching Liobhan try to do that is by turns hilarious, heartbreaking, and rage-inducing. Dau tries so hard that he makes everything about five times harder than it has to be.

Lan Chitward from the Valdemar Universe - OK, I might prefer guys who need hugs, because Lan is a beautifully executed tragic hero. This kid ends up half trained and sans mentor and support system on the front lines of a war with his lifebonded partner and the phyrric victory claims both their lives. Before that though, Lan gets to speed run found family, and it's just delicious because it twists the knife even deeper. I have my issues with Mercedes Lackey, but in Lan she nailed a tragic, doomed hero.

Penelope Featherington from Bridgerton - The Netflix series is objectively better than the book series, but even in the books Pen is my favorite. Our girl is a WRITER, and she isn't afraid to use that skill. There also aren't enough writer protagonists out there, so shoutout to this lovely one.

Fire from the Graceling Universe - Fire is a fascinating protagonist because she is quite literally a monster, and just existing in the world for her is an exercise in understanding what humanity is...even in those humans who lack it.

Ikenna from the Blood Gift universe - Our beautiful murder barbie is inimitable and frankly I want there to be MORE books with her. And murder barbie speaks to my heart in some extremely specific ways.

Nyneave Al'Meara from the Wheel of Time - *yanks braid, smooths skirts* Literally if I didn't pick her, Nyneave would walk out of those books and come for my head, and I would have no choice but to agree with her because she is very much the best.

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EU/Canon Character Pairs

For fun - characters from the old EU and canon I think are similar in some way and some are more superficial than others (since I’m not necessarily familiar with all these EU characters nor the High Republic). I imagine them drawn together in pairs in the same way as the Legacy comic covers of Adam Hughes, but that's for good artists to do.

Ania Solo & Rey

Galaxy-roaming scavengers. 

Vergere & Ezra Bridger

Jedi lost somewhere far, far away.

Yord Fandar & Ganner Rhysode

Self-important Knights.

Dass Jennir & Kanan Jarrus 

Jedi forced to adapt to the dark times. 

Soontir Fel & Soren Keize 

Respected Imperial aces.

Mirta Gev & Sabine Wren 

Mandalorian women with complicated family history.

Ferus Olin & Cal Kestis 

Padawans on the run.

(As for Jedi Survivor, I’d pair that Cal fighting on his alone against impossible odds with Kerra Holt.)

Nomi Sunrider & Avar Kriss

Exceptional Jedi from long ago. 

Ysanne Isard & Gideon 

Imperial warlords and knowledgeable schemers.

Winter Celchu & Vel Sartha

Agents of the early rebellion.

Celeste Morne & Dagan Gera

Jedi of old, sealed away to receive a rude awakening in the future.

Ordo Skirata & Hunter 

Leaders of a family of unique clones.

Fenn Shysa & Bo–Katan Kryze 

Mandalorian leaders fighting against Imperial occupation.

Stormtroopers of the Fel Empire & First Order Stomtroopers 

Soldiers of the future.

Garm Bel Iblis & Saw Gerrera

Opposed to Mon Mothma and fighting their own war against the Empire.

Fordo & Rex 

Captains with Jaig eyes. 

Jacen Solo & Ben Solo 

Descendants of Anakin Skywalker, seduced to follow the footsteps of Darth Vader.

Natasi Daala & Ellian Zahra

Tarkin’s failed protégés.

Lorana Jinzler & Shin Hati 

Dutiful apprentices involved with Thrawn.

Hanharr & Krrsantan 

Powerful, fierce and estranged from their people. 

Tsavong Lah & Grievous

Proud warriors and commanders with a grudge against Jedi.

The Hand of Judgment & Clone Force 99

Deserters from the Empire.

Pors Tonith & Trench

Brilliant Separatist commanders foiled by Anakin Skywalker.

Warb Null & Marrok

Armored tools of the dark side.

Bria Tharen & Qi’ra 

Han Solo’s first love.

AG-37 & IG-11

More than just assassin droids. 

The Imperial Knights & The Inquisitors  

Force-wielding servants of the Empire. 

C-3PX & 0-0-0 

Protocol droids specialized in a different form of human/cyborg relations.

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this is such a weird feeling.

no, dlf didn’t spit in my face. no, this wasn’t an utter shock. but after reaching a peaceful and EXTREMELY satisfying conclusion on how to continue rey’s story myself in a way i thought made sense in not just my main verse but also other aus...

to see star wars appear to initially give rey the same story as luke but in a way i’m sure is supposed to be “done right” is disappointing. i am feeling grief, yeah. i’m crestfallen. a good bit selfishly depressed. this isn’t what i wanted to see. 

and beyond the whiny “wah wah wah me me me meeeeeee”, rey deserves something unto herself. something to make her unique among all the jedi and sith and neither that came before her. she was the new cornerstone the force would be built upon, making her own way in the galaxy with others free to agree with her, disagree with her, and join in her way of treating the force. a Way that would be infinitely harder, requiring a balance more hefty than the jedi practiced, but would bring a soul and the force together, creating unity, peace, and justice. not pulling families apart. not leaving others behind, nor left alone, nor practically clueless as to how to use their newfound power. it would restrict only evil while encouraging stability, community, and love in spades. 

this is how the whole blog came to be, anyway. this electrifying character shit on for innumerable nonsensical reasons had such potential that we got true and amazing winks of in the force awakens and the last jedi. i’m even working with the palpatine lineage to create some amazing stories that make sense and FEEL RIGHT. feel like they make sense. rey deserves that much, be she rey nobody, rey palpatine, or rey skywalker. i’ve encountered enough derision for her online and in real life, writing her off as OP and a mary sue and a nothing burger for her to get any treatment but the best from here on out. 

but with the tros lineage going into this new time jump reysky film, here’s the problem:

she and luke are doing the same thing on the surface. skywalker son of darth vader commits to light and starts a school after killing darth sidious and finalizing the death of his father. “skywalker” granddaughter of darth sidious commits to light and starts a school after killing darth sidious. i wish there was infinitely more nuance here, but there isn’t a lot thus far. the new republic and its fall now has ten times more nuance than this parallel line they’re creating. this won’t be like eu/legends where the last known skywalkers and solos are treading a different path and setting the galaxy on a new trajectory. we’ll have to wait until more details come out about how long she’s had the school, what inspired her to start it, WHERE she started it (very important), how she’s teaching (the old jedi code from her books? her own code after seeing the failures of both jedi and sith? taking children or keeping families together? something entirely new that no one has tried before but she has the guts to?), and how long did she wait to start it after tros to see what’s up. 

there’s so much to wait on that i’m actively avoiding hope. i got greeted with this news on so many sides this morning and can’t pull myself into feeling anything except depressed about it. dlf didn’t slap me in the face, but it feels like it. just this little bit of news was enough to smack down the hopes i had for post-tros sequel content that were apparently too specific to happen. in other timelines, i’m hitting all the beats, but not here. and where’s finn? what’s he doing? he should have been the last jedi while rey gets to strike out on her own and they encourage each other the entire time. where’s jannah? where’s rose? what’s rose doing? where’s poe and kes? are they back at the farm? there’s just too many questions and too many gaps. 

well, i guess happy hardline canon-divergency day to my blog! and welcome back, daisy. please have your girl’s best interest at heart  💛

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Any thoughts on Star Wars? The sequel trilogy specifically.

Used to be more obsessed with that franchise than anything else in the world.

Unlike most it wasn't The Last Jedi or Rise of Skywalker that disenchanted me. I was out after The Force Awakens. What a garbage movie, a soulless rehash of A New Hope that rendered the entire Original Trilogy pointless. Prior to the Disney buyout I was a Star Wars fanatic. I devoured obscure articles on Wookieepedia as a child. Teen me couldn't get enough Star Wars books, even trash like Darksaber. Ben Skywalker and Jaina Solo were my favorite characters from the old EU, and Lucas can seethe to his dying day but I thought Mara Jade was awesome. I watched the VHS tapes of the OT until they broke, and seeing Revenge of the Sith in theaters for my birthday as a kid remains one of my favorite childhood memories. On the original Xbox I must have played the campaigns for Star Wars: Battlefront and the KOTOR games over 20 times. When Disney bought the franchise and announced the reboot, I was sad but as a DC fan who came in with the New 52, I had some hope that maybe this would be a good thing. And hey, Legends actually got a decent ending with the Sith finally being completely destroyed and the Skywalker lineage living on. So I gave Disney a chance, went to see TFA with my family... and walked out depressed.

Now I don't care at all. Somehow I successfully managed to sever the emotional connection I used to have. Doesn't bother me when I see the franchise helplessly flailing about these days. I played Jedi Fallen Order and enjoyed that, I'll probably play the sequel, and that's the extent of my engagement with the franchise these days. My littlest sister is a big fan of Star Wars, or at least the Clone Wars and Sequel Trilogy eras. She likes Ahsoka, Anakin, and Kylo the most. She likes Rey. I don't flip out on her for being "wrong" and enjoying those movies any more than my dad did at me enjoying the Prequel Trilogy which he hates. My dad enjoyed the Mandalorian. I have fun talking Star Wars with them, it's been a blast to see my little sister finally get old enough to play through the KOTOR games. I just don't obsess over Star Wars anymore.

At least with Legends, as dumb as it got, I saw the Luke story I wanted to see of him rebuilding the Jedi and having a family. Legends Luke accomplished what his father could not. Legends Han and Leia got their happy ending despite the heartbreak of Jacen's fate. Their fates in the ST are just bafflingly awful. All three die total failures who accomplished sweet fuck all, in some cases outright regressing from where they were at the end of the OT, and the Skywalker lineage ends in total disgrace while the Palpatine bloodline survives through Rey. Whatever, I guess they'll just retell Legends Luke stories with Rey since they basically soft rebooted the franchise to make her the central replacement for Anakin and Luke. She's the one who actually ends the Sith for good and she's the one who will rebuild the Jedi. Long as my sister enjoys what comes next, I guess I'll just treat the Legends ending as my personal canon and treat the ST as fanfiction.