SPOILERS!!!!
It hits me too much with pain now🥲
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I WILL BE SPAMMING SCREENSHOTS TOMORROW I JUST NEED TO SIT DOWN FOR A SECOND HOLY SHIT
BUT
THE WAY IM GONNA MURDER THIS MAN THEN REVIVE HIM TO SHAKE HIS SHOULDERS ONG LMAOOOO
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the epic fandom:
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The one who has the final say.
You?
Or your crew?
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Okay so I’ve seen a lot of people being like “oh Eurylochus is not a hypocrite bc he didn’t intentionally sacrifice the crew with Circe like Odysseus did with Scylla”
And while yes it is not the same, uh…….. here’s the problem from my perspective and why I still totally think he’s a hypocrite.
He was the one who had those men under his command. Odysseus gave him a mission and for that mission, Eurylochus was in charge of those guys. Then he LOSES (yes it is his fault, he was responsible for those men) the men to Circe and then runs back to Odysseus and immediately is trying to leave. He in a way is actively choosing to ABANDON those men without even TRYING to attempt a plan to save them. Like he doesn’t even think about it.
Yes Odysseus and the Scylla situation are messed up and it is not the same as Eurylochus and the Circe situation, but sorry guys this man is absolutely still a hypocrite. For his own self preservation he was about to abandon a bunch of men HE LOST to a supposed evil. The only difference is that Ody did it deliberately while Eurylochus’ incompetence caused it.
And here’s the thing, we can argue that Odysseus bc of the Scylla situation is more of a monster than Eury. I’m not even saying the mutiny is not justified. IT ABSOLUTELY WAS. The crew absolutely should have mutinied and Eury was right to challenge Ody.
However, these characters are complex and like yeah, Ody is a monster and a conniving schemer, but he is ultimately just a man trying to get home. And Eury is a fool and a hypocrite that would abandon his men for his mistakes but he is also just a tired man who is starving and suffering.
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how long do you think it was between the Underworld Saga and the Thunder Saga?
they say it's been 'about 12 years' which is the same time given in the Circe Saga so it can't have been that long (assuming Ody wasn't lying earlier and they're even half decent at keeping track of time).
in Different Beasts, the whole crew acts like Ody's ruthlessness is expected, even though we haven't seen it since Troy. they don't hesitate to obey him at any point, not when he says to cut off the sirens tails, not when he says to let them drown. Eurolychus doesn't hesitate to light the six torches, the men don't hesitate to follow him into Scylla's lair. they sing about being different beasts now, about how he's a different beast now. how long do you think that strategy had been working for them? how many monsters do you think they dealt with ruthlessly? how long had it been since they lost a friend?
I just. there's so much trust between Ody and his crew for the first half of the Thunder Saga and it all goes out the window the moment they realise their acceptable collateral damage to him
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Eurylocus: “But we’ll die”
Sir you chose to ignore Odysseus’ warnings about the cow, and you literally just finished singing about how you have no hope anymore.
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SIR?!
[ODYSSEUS]
Please don't tell me you're about to do what I think you'll do
[EURYLOCHUS]
Ody, we're never gonna get to make it home
You know it's true
THE FUCKING NICKNAME!!!!
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Mutiny being a parallel to Luck Runs Out. Your luck runs out now.
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filming a room tour and u accidentally picture the thunder saga cover
Edit a boat in and it's the same
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Hello my soon to be snacks 👋
It's my greek summer, so I finally get into greek myths drawing with a Scylla design (from Epic the Musical 🫶)
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LETS GOOOOO
EHEHHEHEHE
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Abt to listen to the Thunder Saga w my sibling soon ooo :0
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Im glad I dont sleep early..cuz Primus Below..THE THUNDER SAGA WAS AMAZING.
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SO WAS NOBODY GOING TO TELL ME THAT THE THUNDER SAGA DROPPED YESTERDAY
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Thunder Bringer is such an interesting twist on the trolley problem. Wherein instead of you making the choice of saving one person or many, it’s suddenly yourself or them. And I’ll be honest, I don’t think there are many people on this Earth that would choose to let themselves die for others (especially under the context that the situation they are in is because of the others anyway but yeah).
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