#emotional bleedover

[entity56]

many such cases

[jaina-chaosweaver-of-fate]

There is a mess of emotions, Hidden deep inside of me, Kept behind the big wall, That I built when you saw me fall.

[leth-writes]

yandere hotd x reader scared of their dragon

AEMOND

Understandable.

Vhagar is the biggest dragon you’ve ever seen and it’s not even close. Massive, massive dragon, basically bigger than your entire castle. You’re the size of Vhagar’s foot, that’s the size difference.

Aemond usually isn’t upset by people being scared of Vhagar, it’s part of how he’s gotten such a fierce reputation, and part of how he prevents anyone from gossiping about his eye.

He hasn’t faced any sort of bullying since he lost his eye and gained his dragon.

Vhagar and him have bonded quite well, but Vhagar is still quite aggressive, with an incredibly strong personality. She doesn’t always do what he asks, so you have every reason to be terrified.

However, it’s important to note that (at least in my headcanons), there’s emotional bleedover from rider to dragon, and Vhagar can just feel the absolutely overwhelming emotions radiating from Aemond whenever you look at her.

The emotions are so strong, too strong for Aemond to fully contain, so Vhagar’s had to keep some of that protectiveness in herself, just to prevent Aemond from constantly snapping.

As a result, Vhagar’s incredibly gentle with you. She can’t see you all that well, you mainly just look like a fuzzy blur, but she’s known for curling up under your window in the castle, or even staring inside, her one eye larger than the window.

She just kinda… watches you. Makes sure no one is acting out around you, making sure you aren’t trying to escape. One snort, fire bellowing from her nostrils, and everyone backs away, or you climb back down that stone wall.

You don’t stand a chance. If Aemond wasn’t enough, now you have this big fucking dragon watching you at all times. No one wants to talk to you, they’re scared Aemond will feed them to her, Vhagar’s hoping that’ll happen. Who knows, maybe she’ll be eating a couple of your romantic interests before you learn the lesson.

AEGON

Listen. Sunfyre is big, really big, but nowhere near the size of fucking Vhagar. Sunfyre’s a lot less intimidating, being about the size of a particularly large van.

As a result, you’re still terrified, but it’s a lot less justified. Sunfyre can’t eat you in one bite like Vhagar could, but they could definitely maim you pretty badly.

You won’t even step foot near Sunfyre, which Aegon honestly doesn’t mind that much. Sure, he’s close with Sunfyre, but he isn’t going to force you. Besides, positioning sunfyre right outside the door to the part of the castle you frequent has you running straight for him, terrified the dragon is hunting you. He essentially is, he’s using Sunfyre to flush you out of your hiding spots toward where he wants you to be, namely his room.

He does use Sunfyre to intimidate other romantic interests, but honestly his position as king does a lot of that for him, so it isn’t too big of a deal.

yes, Sunfyre will be sad if you don’t ride them. Yes, Sunfyre will be sad if you don’t pet them.

Still, Aegon doesn’t work too hard to get you used to Sunfyre, he needs them to be able to intimidate you. So, you maintain a bit of healthy fear, treating Sunfyre like a particularly dangerous pet.

Daemon

Okay, Caraxes is pretty big. Halfway in size between Vhagar and Sunfyre. You’re about the size of their head.

Daemon wants you to be close with Caraxes. He wants to be able to ride with you, and see the way you stare in awe at the clouds, and laugh as you clutch him close to you out of exilerated fear. He’s just not very good about introducing you to them slowly. He basically forced you onto Caraxes for a long ride, waiting until you’re able to move your face from his shoulder to look at the jaw-dropping view.

He also wants you to be able to pet Caraxes, who really loves your affection, representing the more tender feelings Daemon usually stamps down to protect his reputation.

Caraxes also gets that ruthless possessiveness from him. They’re going to burn people who come too close right in front of you, no waiting for Daemon to show up. He pretends to scold them but secretly praises them, and they can feel the happiness boiling in his chest.

His goal is for you to eventually give the order to burn up your enemies; he wants to see that fire in your eyes, that confident gleam that can only come from having such a dangerous creature under your control. He has dreams about it.

If he ever walks in to you taking care of Caraxes, he’ll be ecstatic. He’ll tease you about domesticating his dragon, but don’t take it too seriously; he just doesn’t know how to show affection.

[a-dragons-journal]

Emotion Bleedover

Emotion bleed between systemmates is weird.

We get a lot of variations of it and a large part of why is the fact that it’s extremely hard for me-Rani to leave the front, so anyone else “fronting” is almost always actually co-fronting with me, meaning that “me” is sometimes a blurry mess of bleedthrough.

Sometimes this is fine - Roshan and I co-front extremely well, for instance; for whatever reason, we blur together easily without it being distressing. What bits are “Rani” and what bits are “Roshan” kind of becomes hard to discern at times - which I have to say, as someone still fairly new to this whole system thing, is a little weird, but somehow not unsettling when it’s Roshan even though it is when it’s, say, Viridian. Sometimes I think “I” am purely Rani and then I see a fae/faer pronoun and it clicks as actively correct for me (as opposed to a passively “sure, I’ll accept that”) and I go “oh, no, that’s. Hi Roshan.”

Sometimes it’s… less ideal. Mostly this is the case when it comes to anxiety bleedover - Viridian is a much more anxious person than me, and I’m a more anxious person than Loretta (barring certain contexts), so when any combination of us is blurring, the least anxious person in the room has to deal with suddenly having higher anxiety levels than usual. Managing someone else’s anxiety attack bleeding over into you is An Experience, for sure. I’m not sure we’ve quite got the hang of it yet, but we’re working on it.

And sometimes it’s just odd. For example: I, Rani, am the acest person to ever walk the earth. I’ve never met a sexual attraction in my life. Loretta, on the other hand, was allo before getting here and remains so - and every so often, she starts eyeing someone and it takes me a second to clock that it’s her feelings and not mine. It’s extremely odd to suddenly feel - not firsthand, exactly, but first-and-a-half-hand sexual attraction to people when that’s never been something I’ve experienced before. The “oh, sexual attraction is real” moments are real. I did not think it was real that you could get slightly aroused just from looking at someone who’s pretty enough. It is. She does. So we do sometimes now.

I don’t really have a thesis here. It’s just… interesting, how bleedover happens.

[mlb-a-rewrite]

Chat Noir is Adrien

That seems pretty obvious, they are literally the same person. Honestly, I don’t know if this was ever a point of contention in the fandom because I’ve never been, like, properly in the fandom but I remembered hearing about this a while ago and thought I talk about it in regard to my Rewrite :)

Adrien and Chat Noir are the same person, again, obviously, but they act very differently from one another, particularly in the show. Adrien is always polite and carefully spoken while Chat Noir says anything and everything. They act like different people, but they aren’t.

I think every person goes through an identity crisis in their life. Mine has been ongoing but it was pretty bad a few years ago. I felt very lonely because I didn’t have anyone who knew me, but that begged the question, Who am I?

Depending on the situation I act differently. I make different jokes around family than I do around friends. I speak and act differently at work than I do in my house and at school I behave entirely differently, but all of these are me.

At school, I am naturally quieter and more withdrawn. It would be unnatural, not authentic if I were to be super outgoing and sociable. That is me.

But with friends, I make crass jokes and laugh about dumb shit. I instigate conversations and go out of my way to spend time with them. That is also me.

Neither of these versions of me are facades, they are all me, but reacting to different situations. I don’t particularly enjoy school so I go into low power mode, but when I do happen to enjoy a topic or have a friend in the same class then I am more invested. I am fluid and changing and all different “versions” of me are still me.

To apply this to a fictional teenage superhero, Adrien acts a certain way at school, and as time progresses he gets more comfortable in the “version” of him he is at school and settles into it. When he transforms and becomes Chat Noir, another “version” of him surfaces. One isn’t more valid or authentic than another; Adrien is simply adapting to his circumstances.

One minor issue (yes it’s only minor this time around) I have with the show is that they never show bleedover between the different “versions” of Adrien. I may be wrong, but I believe they do with Marinette early on where they show her gain confidence as Ladybug and that transfers over to her as Marinette, but they never do anything like that with Adrien.

Going back to my example from before, in class, I am typically quieter and more withdrawn, but if I have a friend in that class or was just talking to my friends before I went to class, that may change and I end up being more talkative and involved. If something bad happens in my personal life, I will be unfocused and tired in class. These different “versions” of myself are all connected and they bleed together, they impact one another.

As a whole, I think the show should look into this more. Or, if they don’t want to dive into that, they just ignore it entirely, but a lot of the show’s main struggles are with the heroes, Marinette in particular, dealing with having “two lives” that are at odds with each other. It would make that struggle more interesting if they dove into how they personally struggle with this outside of just being stressed, you know?

In my rewrite, I’m not planning on diving into this in great detail, but I want to make sure that the connection is present. I see how changes in one “version” of a character impact the others. 

When Adrien gets his miraculous and becomes Chat Noir, he suddenly has unlimited freedom and gets to experience something new. As a result, he starts to discover himself more in this newfound freedom and realizes he likes making jokes and goofing off but that he likes to do so because it makes the people around him smile. 

As Adrien, he makes the people around him smile not primarily through jokes, but by acts of service. He spends time with them and connects with them on an emotional level to support them. Adrien still makes jokes, but they aren’t his go-to as it is for Chat. Chat likes to connect emotionally with Ladybug, but can’t fully because of their secret identities.

Adrien and Chat Noir are the same person but just put names to that same person in different circumstances.

[multiplicity-positivity]

What are your thoughts on systems that also have ties to the unconscious? I have headmates and also beings residing in my unconscious. My whole system is esoteric in nature.

They make my muscles twitch and cry through my eyes but never fully front

I'm more focused on my wild intuition and building frameworks around it as I tread new psychic waters.

and they're all collectively more focused on love/hate, and how they feel about things and what they want to do about it.

Our differences often lead to conflict

They seem weary of my reckless creation and sigils I'm practically a fountain of sigils.

Different frequencies can come through the "channel" beyond just my headmates. I've had socialist Jesus tell me everything was going to turn out alright.

Headmates:

Amory - Used to have mad sensual tension between us. Just talking about it makes me feel flirty, romantic and frisky. This never turns out well for us though so and it weirds her out so I don't really cross that boundary with her anymore.

Vigila - weary of new things, worried about how they could go wrong

Luceal - believes I need to be punished, plays mind games, will use mind games to indirectly try to control me to get me to do what she wants, sometimes all she wants me is to stop talking about a subject. Other times she gets purely sadistic and has no empathy or remorse and wishes to drive me either off the deep end or to suicide.

Bun/BunBun - Comes to me in a vision as a bunny entity, sort of like a little sister to me.

Centipede - Comes to me to protect me from Luceal when things get bad in a vision of a smiling centipede

Greg - Male voice that condescends and backs up Luceal.

Writing about Amory got me a bit heated up due to to the tension goddamn but it is what is it is. I yearn for Amory's love and affection and holding each other and maybe getting frisky if we're both comfortable and in a good place for it.

hey, to answer your question at the top of your ask, we feel that almost every system out there has ties to the unconscious in some way or another. for most systems, headmates don’t just stop existing when they leave the front or aren’t taking up consciousness-bandwidth (if that makes sense). our system definitely has alters who hardly ever front, and some who have no ability to access our inner world/headspace. for them, much of their existence likely is in our unconscious mind.

also thanks for sharing a bit about your system, its members, and how your system functions. we also experience lots of conflict and physical/emotional bleedover where one part may experience the emotions or have the physical reactions of another part without directly interacting. your system sounds like a diverse group of folks, and we’re wishing y’all the best of luck with learning more about each other and growing closer together as a team :)

[symbiotecollective]

❌ emotional bleedover between headmates

✔️ piracy as defined by the Australian Copyright Act 1968 section 132AC(1)

[elmflowers]

i think in a "izuru and hajime work as a plural system post game" au, izuru would probably get heightened emotions (for him that is) from hajime via bleedover, especially when co-fronting. which could lead to some very interesting things.

like if they were to review documents about the hope cultivation program, imagine the emotions you would feel when you finally can stop and think about it all. you were made and treated like a glorified show horse with no respect to your autonomy or personhood and denied the ability to explore or have any fucking stimulation. just shoved in a dark room and prodded at by people who, if they brought you into the world, are supposed to fucking care and raise you.

and now you (izuru kamukura) have more heightened emotions compared to the monotone apathy that was operated into you by the guy who was supposed to fucking die to make you. imagine the rage, the desperate "why? why did you do this? why wasnt i human to you?". personally, i would start throwing things out the window.

[system-sexuality]

Um, hey sorry I know you said this isn't an advice blog but we kinda need help and this is the only space we can find that we'd be able to talk about this kind of thing ^^; You don't have to give your own response if you don't want to, I just need a place to ask this where I can get opinions from others, if that's ok

We're a minor-bodied system (15) where almost all of us are sex repulsed asexual.... almost all A more recently formed alter is an adult (25, he/she) and is allosexual He wants to willogen her boyfriend to the system, who is also allosexual in his exomemories We were uh wondering about how it would work if, perhaps, the 2 wanted to, you know, do adult things together (in headspace only, we have a very vivid headspace)... but we're a bodily minor... and I know something something psychology has to do with this stuff and consent and blah blah blah

So we wanted opinions on how this would work...? Would it ok for them to do that?

🌪 - Zephyr

First off, yes, it's totally okay for alters to do sexual things together in a system that is bodily a minor - As long as everyone involved and affected is on board! In some systems where there is no "private" innerworld location this can make things awkward or off-limits, but that's something to discuss with your other alters if need be. The way our system operates, we don't do certain sexual activities when specific alters are co-conscious or "present" because it is upsetting for them to witness or experience bleedover of. Communication is key, just like with any sexual experience!

It's completely normal and okay to have sexual feelings as a minor (bodily and internally), even if you are overall asexual and sex repulsed. People often teach that these things are "adult-only" feelings in a misguided attempt to protect minors, but that only makes them feel like their feelings aren't allowed. Which is actually much more harmful to them when they begin to experience it!

As far as how sex would work in the innerworld, it's much like sex in the outerworld, especially with a vivid headspace like yours. Internally performing sex acts is one way of having in-system sex. If you aren't super familiar with different kinds of sex acts, Scarleteen is a good resource for sex-ed aimed at younger people! If you're able to have a private space in headspace, that's probably ideal, but we personally usually just negotiate like one would with roommates. "Can I have the apartment [front room] to myself tonight? I'm bringing someone over." "We need some alone time, is that okay?"

Another way to have sex in-system is to use a combination of innerworld actions and masturbation in the outerworld. If this isn't for you, that's okay! I just want to mention it for anyone else who might be reading.

There's also what I call "atypical sexual experiences" which is totally Not a real term. This is for things like a temporary fusion which is sexual in nature, sharing sexual thoughts, experiencing emotional/sensational bleedover, or other experiences which don't have an outerworld analogue. I don't know of any literature about experiences like these, it's just based on personal experience. If you know how your system works, you can get pretty creative with feeling good together!

When in doubt, talk it out with the others in your system. Be willing to hear them out about their feelings and make compromises to make sure everyone feels safe!

I hope this is helpful - if you have any more questions feel free to ask!

🌪 - Zephyr

[the-orange-solace]

Hi! Tiny question (my friend might've asked you already, I'm sorry), but is it possible to have a kinned character be a headmate?

There's a voice up here, and it's not the usual one. Can't tell who it is by the voice, unfortunately, but... Yeah. Asking if it's possible for a kin to become/be a headmate, since I have suspicions that's what just happened.

Thanks for answering, and sorry if I bothered you guys.

~ 🌱 ~

[IMAGE ID: An ask from the neonlight-vaporwave-sys that reads as follows: Pspspsps beloved, I got a question from a friend and I felt I could get your opinion on it; Is it physically possible to kin a character so hard that they become an alter. {Because someone keeps screeching inside of my head and that is NOT the normal voice that's up there} /END ID]

First of all, asks never bother us! Wether it's friendly interaction, a question, concern, thought, or opinion! In our pinned post we stated asks are welcome, this includes yours and anyone else's who wishes to send one in! Never allow shame, fear, or anxiety keep you away from interacting with us, we're more than happy to help you out and hold conversations!

Secondly, our gut reaction leans us towards an experience in which a headmate's kintype bleeds or transforms into another headmate. It also reminds us of interlaced and bleedover experiences.

However, it might not be directly linked to forming because of a kin. We have experiences in which we believe to understand a character deeply enough to kin them or see ourselves as them. Though, for us that is mostly because we are forming that individual from the character passing all or a combination of our formation needs. Such as emotional bonds, understanding, adoration, shared experiences, and familiarity.

I don't know what's going on inside your head. It may not even be a headmate, fully formed, fragment, or flicker! It could be natural internal voice changes or something else entirely! What matters is that you look into it yourself, reach out to people, and learn for yourself what feels right and makes you happy.

There is no right or wrong answer. Just the chance to learn and understand you or yourselves better.

[pluralquotebook]

"you are BLEEDING ON ME" (in reference to bleedover emotions)

-🌟🪦

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[emerald-technologist]

"Becoming" a Dragon: On System Bleedover

Crossposted to the Fictionkind Dreamwidth

Odd fictive experiences: since getting here, I've been turned into a dragon somewhat against my will.

This is mostly joke phrasing, but the core is truth. I'm not actually a dragon; I don't consider myself to be one in any way. It's also not necessarily actively distressing in any way, just... odd. But the core of it - system bleedover with my host has given me a fair number of draconic traits that I most definitely did not have before arriving here.

For one thing, when we're both at or near the front, we get phantom shifts that are unmistakably draconic, but are not Rani's dragon form. Primarily, feathers, of all things - a tall feathered crest and a "body feather" coating of neck feathers, which like to ruffle and re-settle in response to my emotions, especially when I'm nervous or distressed. Rani does not have feathers. I've never had a phantom shift before coming into the system (unless we count the false phantoms of what I, unable to retract my own fangs as a Kindred should be able to, convinced myself fangs retracting "should" feel like while trying to learn, which it turns out isn't at all what that actually feels like). It's unclear whether this is something I'd have while fronting alone or not, since Rani doesn't leave the front, but either way, it's new, and strange.

For another, I periodically get draconic instincts that are familiar to Rani, but which I've never had before. Primarily, these seem to link to traits I already had - namely, I've always been protective and somewhat territorial (I'm told I'm a very Tzimisce kind of Tremere, to those for whom that means anything), but now when an urge to protect and shelter someone strikes, it's accompanied by the brief impression of wanting to coil a huge, unmistakably draconic body around them and snap and snarl at the offender. This is something Rani is used to; it is not something I am used to or have ever experienced before joining this system, but I'm unsure how much it's coming from them, how much from me, and how much from the inevitable blur between the two of us.

Thankfully, I have not been influenced by any of the more... visceral draconic instincts Rani is familiar with, at least not yet. I hope it remains that way. I had quite enough of that from my Beast (the vampiric survival instinct, more or less, for those unfamiliar - which knows only flee, fight, and feed), and while the dragon is obviously less malevolent, I have no interest in being influenced by such a thing. That is the one good thing about being back in a living human body - no Beast to contend with.

[ash-n-dynamite]

I think there's a lot of reasons I relate to the first 2 seasons of Westworld. The big one is being from a fictional source and realizing your existence isn't what you thought. Then there's a few other details that really resonate, like their concept of cornerstones.

But there's something else that may have triggered a meltdown I had the other night. I've admittedly been getting really upset and concerned about my memory. It feels like I've been losing my grip on reality. It's always little things, but noticing those little things aren't matching what I know has become highly distressing.

I know when your existence is because of trauma a bit of memory loss and confusion should be expected, particularly when being a system. But the thing is we've never noticed any lost time or felt unsure of our reality. So the more that gets pointed out that don't match the more it is starting to make me panic.

Watching a show about reality being a lie didn't help that night.

I had a breakdown over it, and what I had wanted to calmly explain (once I fully figured out what was going on) instead came out during a small anxiety attack from that disconnection with reality. I was a mess.

Typically when having an emotional upheaval Kit takes over, but I stayed in front and kinda... tapped in to Kit's typical emotions when she is overload. I don't know if it was passive influence or we were blended, but it was a very surreal realization that I was still in front, very much myself, and I was addressing an issue I was having but felt like I was reacting as if I was Kit.

And to be fair, while feeling detached from reality is very much a *me* issue I know Kit has had issues with people countering her and denying that she has heard or said things, and that kind of repetitive frustration is just as likely a part of my current issue. The emotional reaction was likely bleedover from Kit's lifelong frustrations.

Its something we've never thought to worry about, and maybe it isn't actually an issue and it's been nothing more than a miscommunication, but I am once again amazed on how things that trouble me seem to have some kind of place in Kit's own history. There's always a connection. I've seen people state that fictives happen for a reason and our own traumas and issues are actually tied to the host's (or overall system's) trauma. I kinda hate that this seems to hold true for me. I personally think my fears are particularly rational and relatable as a fictive. But I also hate that it could all still be some weird coping illusion to deal with some underlining issue that doesn't actually need to have anything to do with me.

The joys of system life.

[hskinhome]

An aesthetic/moodboard for a Gemrist Heir who has a very strong connection to a Camini Seer due to timeline fuckery and bleedover using themes of emotional volatility and the song “Stray Italian Greyhound” by Vienna Teng

[infini-tree]

concept because right now my brain is in Writing Mode exclusively at the moment: during the egg casserole wedding, krupp has to do the breaking of the glass. but his heightened emotions and superpower bleedover shenanigans results in him causing a minor quake (or breaking the floor underneath him on top of the glass if its an indoor wedding)

the rabbi doesn't know whether to be a little freaked out, or chalk it up to wedding jitters. frankly, it isn’t the weirdest thing in piqua

[ultimateplaylistmaker]

i was more thinking about how kamukura was one of the direct causes of u know, the apocalypse and is a terrorist skgkkakfksf

but yeah as a system he'd probably not do much but just be there, there might be a bleedover with hinata's emotions that help him find smth interesting but yeah the thought of hinata just having a very meticulous cat in his head is so skgkdv

That's fair but at the same time if literally everyone else fell for the same manipulations/mind control I don't think it's fair to call out Kamukura specifically. I can see why some people would take issue though.

Izuru is a meticulous cat, hajime is just having a nice day and then Izuru goes "that bookcase's second shelf is .34% more crooked then the other shelves" and now his day is RUINED