#elsa nattura

[simpofhans]

WAIT IT KINDA FITS PLATONIC HELSA IN MY FANFIC WTF 😭😭😭💞💞💞💞

(kinda bc in my fanfic they never had feelings for each other 😝😝😝 they are loving each other in other way but still familiar/friend love is there!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️💞💞)

[vavialdavi]

Credit: Brittney Lee (D23 2024)

The first piece of concept just got leaked! What we can assume/theorize:

- Considering the general atmosphere, the movie will take place in Spring (as I expect cause we already got Fall in F2 and both Summer and Winter in F1). I'm just hoping it will be the next Spring after F2

-The spirits and lore they introduced in F2 won't be left out, or least Nokk won't

- There's a slight chances the movie takes place a new places cause the trees look slighly different from the Enchanted Forest's

Unless it's an area in the forest where the vegetation is quite different or I'm over analyzing

- We're gonna have either a real MAGICAL antagonist or a character who appears at such at first. They look like they have a cap so these horns could be fake

- Their weapon reminds me a bit of the Northuldra's. It may be a different type but still one of their traditional tools

- They're clearly not the same but the way the character is holding it is similar to how Yelena holds hers in this concept art (also made my Brittney Lee). Not to mention this Ryder concept art by Jin Kim. So maybe a sign of the return of our Northuldra characters...?

-The Northern lights are gonna have an important role in the movies (since it's confirmed F3 and F4 are a same story cut in halves)

- We might meet the previous fifth spirit (or spirits)! It's a bit blurry and subtle but the two characters in front of the strange castle seems to quite have reindeer's horns. I'm even assuming the one on the left could be an actual reindeer

For those who are familiar with the deleted, Frozen 2 originally portrays a prologue where a character who could turn into a reindeer. It's kinda imply they were the fifth spirit

I have a strong feeling Frozen 3 and 4 are gonna include a lot the ideas they couldn't include in Frozen 2. Unlike Frozen's, a lot of Frozen 2's deleted scenes could still make sense in the canon verse

Remember these are my personal assumptions, feel free to agree or disagree!

[firawren]

Frozen text post memes, part 6 of ? - prev set

[magnetic-maverick]

Gay runs in the family

[jessi-skylark]

Elsamaren Comic: Chapter 2 - Admire

Frozen Fanfic of how Elsa x Honeymaren fall in love

This follows Chapter 1: Elsamaren Comic

Elsa overhears a tender moment between Honeymaren and Ryder, but when Elsa asks her about it, they learn they have more in common than they have even more in common than they thought.

So where’s Honeymaren?

What does Elsa find when she follows Honeymaren into the forest?

Nice moves, Honey, but why is she still training?

But what about Ryder?

So are Honeymaren and Ryder romantic?

And Elsa? How does she feel about romance?

Not only does Anna want to get married and have heirs, Elsa feels she may even be a better queen.

and finally...

Up Next: Chapter 3 - Crush

Want to read more Elsamaren?

See Master Post for links, or:

Chapter 1: Beginning After the End

Chapter 1: Elsamaren Comic, artist @jessi-skylark

Chapter 1: Elsamaren Written, author @fuzziekins

Chapter 2: Admire

Chapter 2: Elsamaren Comic - Artist: @jessi-skylark

Chapter 2: Elsamaren Story - Author: @fuzziekins

Chapter 3: Just a Crush

Chapter 3: Just a crush - Artist @jessi-skylark

To fellow frozen fans, what should happen next? Please add comments or reblogs 😀

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[meltthefrozenheart]

FROZEN 3 and FROZEN 4 are both in development, and I can't wait!

The news sounded odd to me initially, I didn't expect anything like this from Disney Animation, but it became immediatly appealing the moment I realized the GREAT potential a double feature could have for the franchise, most importantly when Bob Iger specified “Jenn Lee, who created Frozen, the original Frozen, and Frozen 2 is hard at work with her team at Disney Animation on not one but actually two stories.”, which would mean:

More time to enstablish new elements, new characters, time to explore new lore and new places without the risk to rush everything;

A bigger story that can help flesh out our protagonists in their new roles, their new wants and changes they might face, considering how the F2 ending brought many new possibilities;

A narrative context where the new crysis (whatever it might be) could be explored even better, also allowing to maintain things in a complex prespective just as the Frozen movies like to do, where the matter of "good and evil" not at the center, and things are first of all deeply personal for the characters

It seems to me that Jennifer Lee always wanted to delve deeper into things, this is why the Broadway Musical was a perfect opportunity for her and the Lopez to expand the characters and flesh out things in the story, also adding new elements that would've been useful for F2.

And when they worked on Frozen 2, they built it as the "second part" of the story, reconnecting almost all the aspects of the sequel to the 1st movie, and the story was clearly meant to be BIGGER and longer compared to what we ended up having because of numerous issues and rewrites. J. Lee and C. Buck didn't want to introduce something that would feel just as "a new adventure", and more about the actual characters evolving, see what they left unresolved, breaking the "Happy ending" scenario of F1, which also led them to NOT give the new human characters (Mattias and the Northuldra) the same relevance given to Spirits of Nature, in order to remain focused on Elsa, Anna and the rest of the gang.

Now, Lee will most likely not direct or write these two new movies, but she is still directly involved, because it's both part of her job as CCO of Walt Disney Animation Studio and because Frozen is her (and Chris Buck) baby. It will be curious to discover with what idea Marc Smith came out with, but the fact he worked on the 1st Frozen as a storyboard artist and the became Director of Story for Frozen 2 says a lot about him and why Lee trusts him so much, and I'm sure they will follow the approach used with the 2nd movie and carry it on with 3 and 4. Numerous sagas used the two-parter approach, like the books adaptations of Harry Potter, Twilight and Hunger Games series, or more "original cases" like Pirates of the Carribeans or what we are getting now with the animated Spiderverse movies (Across and Beyond). But I think the best similarity (and probably what led to this ambitious choice) is with Avengers Infinity War/Endgame, where the BIG FINALE gets developed in two movies.

[gqa-lite]

It’s exhausting to see anti-ending fans go after Honeymaren for telling Elsa she belongs in the forest. Elsa was already in the mindset to stay, Honey telling her that wouldn’t have made any difference. Her saying that is meant to represent that the two women are starting to form a relationship. It’s good for Elsa to create bonds outside her family.

Also, it’s becoming annoying to see anti-ending fans use Anna as a way to represent their own frustrations. Anna is fine with Elsa being in the woods, and even encourages Elsa to stay in her letters. On top of this, as a loving sister, Anna would have no issues with Elsa forming relationships with people outside of her.

[sarrathephotoeditor]

Welcome to FrozenAgnarrIdunaFan2020!

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Hello everyone, I’m the photo editor of the Disney Frozen fandom. I’m a huge Frozen fan and I’m also a huge fan of two characters from Frozen. Anna and Elsa's parents, King Agnarr and Queen Iduna. I literally love them so much! 💙 I love them as adults as well as when they were young. What I said… I'm a Frozen photo editor, but I also make video edits occasionally and post Frozen content like Frozen/Agduna merchandise and toys. Most of what I do is actually photo editing Frozen stuff! Only Frozen and Agduna content! 😄

❄️ About me

My name is Sarra, I’m Dutch and I also live in the Netherlands. I’m a woman (she/her). You can call me the huge obsessed Frozen girl! 😁 I've also accomplished something, I recently became a member of Arendelle Archives (@arendelle-archives). I'm very proud of it! I really love Frozen toys and merchandise! I literally collect everything from Frozen! 💙💙 You know that I love Agnarr and Iduna, but it’s also unfortunately true that there is not much Agduna merchandise, but I still try to look for Agduna stuff, buy personalized Agduna merch and make Agduna stuff myself. So that makes a difference too! 🥹🫶

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My blog is the place for Disney Frozen and a lot of attention for Agnarr and Iduna. Of course, this is where I mostly post my Frozen photo edits, gif edits but also Frozen videos edits and Frozen/Agduna merchandise and toys videos + posts ❄️. At this moment, my blog is not even a month old. I also made a pinned post before this a few weeks ago, but it was not really clear and now I have also made new decisions and updates. So that's why I thought of making a much more understandable new pinned post. My blog was created on October 19, 2024. I also have a few rules for my blog. I don't want you to steal and repost my edits anyway. If you want to use them please give credits! And this rule applies most to the trolls and bots… I wouldn't really like it if you chatted or contacted me unnecessarily. That's why I turned off the chat option for people I don't follow. If you want to contact me in a serious way, you can send me a message via my Instagram (check my LinkTree), submit your question via the button on my blog Ask me anything or you can also send me an email. My email: frozenagnarridunafan2020@outlook.com. Now I want to talk about my username. My username is FrozenAgnarrIdunaFan2020. I also prefer you to call me that, if you think that's too long you can also call me Fragdunafan2020 (shortened version of FrozenAgnarrIdunaFan2020). Now you’re probably wondering why this is my username, it’s because I love Frozen very much and because I’m a huge fan of Agnarr and Iduna. The 2020 behind it’s also deeply meaningful to me. It was the year I watched Frozen 2 for the first time and I met Agnarr and Iduna for the first time, it’s my favorite year from the past 🥹💙. This was the part about my blog and username! 😄

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[ericmicael]

HONEYMAREN VS RYDER

The dispute between Honeymaren and Ryder for Elsa's heart, this dispute if you consider "Disney Magic Kingdoms" has already been resolved (with Honeymaren's overwhelming victory), but it is interesting to talk about.

The first indication of this dispute was Kristen Bell herself.

The conversation was about Elsa being a lesbian and whether Honeymaren could be the chosen girl, they answered the standard answers until Kristen Bell mentioned Ryder. She mentions that Disney gave options in the plural if Elsa wants to have romance: she has Honeymaren and Ryder, a woman and a man.

And then we had "Disney Magic Kingdoms."

It's a mobile game about building and managing a park and we've had the addition of F2 characters with very interesting missions that better address their personalities.

FUN FACT: to this day, this mobile game is the only place that developed the members of the Northuldra tribe after F2.

Honeymaren appears to be a shy woman who has some difficulty speaking to people. She wants to know the world beyond the Enchanted Forest, but she is a warrior and has this fear of what is new.

Ryder is more outgoing and talkative. He is extremely excited to see the world beyond the Enchanted Forest.

The first interesting mission that the brothers share Elsa theme is "barking up the wrong tree", the name will be explained later.

The mission is basically Ryder wanting to take Elsa for a walk in the Enchanted Forest. He wants to present her with his vision of the place and of course share experiences with reindeer (probably the conversation would involve more reindeer than forest). But then when he goes to try to invite her he discovers that Honeymaren has already gone out with her a long time ago, and she left him a message and the man's reaction to the message makes it clear that this is a bit frequent. I don't think I need to explain the name of the mission anymore lol

What is the nature of the tours between Elsa and Honeymaren? Honeymaren introducing Elsa to the beauty of the Enchanted Forest, the delicious smells and talking about magic. In fact, these trips seem to be so frequent that Anna says: "in the Enchanted Forest I will meet Elsa on some adventure or she together with Honeymaren".

In the book "Polar Nights" Elsa says that Honeymaren, Ryder and the other Northuldras have been teaching her about the forest. And eventually she also says that she also learned about magic from them, I think she only learned it from Honeymaren.

There are 3 other missions I remember involving the 3 characters: the mission that introduces the characters from F2 (nothing revealing), one involving Ryder and Honeymaren looking for a replacement for Yelana in the Northuldra choir (Honeymaren goes after Elsa and Gale is quite committed to taking Elsa to Honeymaren, Gale even lies to Elsa just to make her come faster) and:

There's a festival happening in Arendelle (I don't remember the name, but this festival has already happened in the franchise's comics) and Honeymaren decides to help by taking care of a candy stall. Ryder ends up meeting his sister who is sad, she can't sell anything because she isn't good at talking and then Ryder realizes something about Honeymaren. Honeymaren was there because of Elsa, Honeymaren really wants to please the Snow Queen in any way even by doing something she doesn't like and doesn't know how to do, like being a saleswoman and overcoming her shyness, and then understanding her sister's feelings for Elsa the guy decides to help... And he's a really great salesman, although he can't sell to a certain red-haired man with sideburns.

I don't want this dispute to continue in "Frozen 3" and "Frozen 4", and thinking about it a little Ryder seems more like an excuse from Disney about the relationship between Elsa and Honeymaren: "Elsa and Honeymaren have no relationship, there is also a man in the forest she talks, saw, saw".

I already commented on SuleMio and what Bandai said at the end of the anime (Gundam Witch From Mercury) after the two women got married and showed off wedding rings, but it's worth remembering:

"Their relationship is open to interpretation."

And then phrases about marriage began to be censored. Why did they say that? Because with them admitting that the women got married, it would be bad to sell merchandising of the two women together with the anime boys during shipping moments.

I don't think Disney would do that although "open to interpretation" is very likely to happen. But imagine this actually happening in "Frozen 3" and "Frozen 4": Ryder being pushed into moments with Elsa just to try to match the moments between Elsa and Honeymaren. I've seen people saying that a dispute that could happen in F3/4 would be between Honeymaren and Hans for Elsa's heart, but Disney seems to have already replaced Hans with Ryder lol

[greatqueenanna]

What do you think of the theory that Honeymaren was made especially to please fans of #GiveElsaAGirlfriend and that initially there would be more moments made to shipp the two until Disney decided to reduce these moments? I'm not saying that they would actually be a couple, but that all of this was meticulously planned to please these fans who wanted her to have a girlfriend without confirming anything.

I always thought it was very naive to think that after years of Disney avoiding the question: “Will Elsa have a girlfriend in Frozen 2?” and they release the film which, despite not being romantic, still shows her talking near a campfire (a moment used in many romance films) with a girl of the same age while they caress a reindeer calf, sing a small duet and they talk about magic and traditions when it would have made much more sense for Elsa to have that conversation with Yelana, but the plot made the older woman stay away from there.

According to most sources I’ve seen (but I need to do more research regarding this, if I'm being honest) the reason Honey (and Ryder) were created was to simply have characters that helped the audience empathize with the Northuldra. They used to have a bit more story content in earlier drafts, which is a shame they got rid of chunks of their story because there wasn't enough screen-time for everything.

This is one of the reasons I feel Frozen 2 would've made an amazing series instead of a film, and why Frozen 3 being separated into two films is such a great idea, even if the initial intention was for more profit. Because let's face it, both the first and second films suffer from the 'too much stuff, not enough space' plot issues so having a show and double film will do wonders for the story going forward.

They also needed characters to help gear the story in the right direction. Honey tells Elsa about the Fifth Spirit, and Ryder helps get Kristoff out of the way so that Elsa and Anna could be alone during the boat scene.

The reason I think Yelena was probably not used, is because her original role was to be a villain along side Runeard, but they scrapped the idea after heavy criticism. Since they had already made Honey and Ryder, there was no point I suppose in giving Yelena a different role other than a leader type to mirror Mattias, especially since they had to shrink down the Northuldra's stories to begin with.

Now, in terms of Honey being created specifically to please fans who want Elsa to be with another woman, I can't say for certain.

I do know that there was a tweet that Jen Lee liked during a Frozen QandA on Twitter (X) where a user begged her to keep Elsa single so that people can imagine her to be with another woman if they wanted. I will see if I can find this tweet for you, but as Jen Lee deleted her Twitter, I’ve lost a lot of sources.

Unless her sentiments have changed, I think Jen Lee will try to keep Elsa single for as long as possible so that fans can decide for themselves what Elsa's sexuality is. Elsa means so much for fans of all sexual orientations, leaving her sexuality open lets fans have freedom with her character. Jen Lee was always about leaving things open for fans, so this concept is not a stretch.

Thus, the possibility that Honey was introduced so that Elsa can have a strong relationship with another woman that is not Anna, but is left open so that fans can interpret the relationship as romantic or platonic, could be a thing.

However, as said, there is no evidence for it other than speculation.

This is also the reason that I pretty confident that Elsa will never be paired off with a man either. They want to leave it open for fans to decide for themselves. Again, unless their thoughts have changed on the subject.

[nerdasaurus1200]

I’m starting to see why people ship these guys now based on these concept art sketches.

[simpofhans]

i can't believe i would ever ship elsamaren but here i am.... i'm not fully convinced to it but with lgbtq+ representation in the hans spin-off fanfic I can't resist especially that in fanfic SOME SHIP OF THE TWO NORTHUNDEL PEOPLE X HANS SHIP (i will not tell you publicly which ^^) is canon so..... no one else is left for my girl Elsa hehe. and I think hans would be 100% on board with elsa having a partner.... i can only imagine talk with platonic hansymaren being like :

hans : what do you have to offer to my sister/mentor/best friend?

honeymaren : nothing but this *does a dance with a staff to show him she is worth his platonic soulmate* ^^

yup. I ship helsa but only in a platonic way and elsamaren is.... kinda good when I think about that.

[vavialdavi]

Doodles based on @true--north's idea <3 She's so pretty like that

Maybe at some point I'll do a full drawing

[firawren]

Frozen text post memes, part 5 of ?

[horrorartist23]

Honeymaren in a fancy suit. Shes gonna dance with Elsa so shes gotta look her best😌😌

I always imagend Maren wearing a suit. I wanted to give her a hat but I cant draw hats xD

Enjoy!

[jessi-skylark]

Elsa x Earth - Chapter so far….

Honeymaren is teaching Elsa the Northuldra way with the Spirits, so she leads her deep in the mountains to the Giants territories…a route Honeymaren has done for years, spending hundreds of hours studying the Spirits…

“The way we channel the power of the spirits is to connect with them empathetically. Listen and open yourself to their desires and then together you can do beautiful things.”

“A little bit from them, and a little from me”

Slowly the rocks started rumbling around them. Small one stacking on larger ones until a cozy table was set in the forest. Honeymaren opened her bag and pulled out biscuits and a canteen of tea

“Tea time!” Elsa exclaimed. “That’s one of the things I miss about the castle. A perfect routine in the afternoon to collect your thoughts”

“You like it? I figured you missed your afternoon tea since you mention it so much” replied Honeymaren. “Plus it’s nice to…share share a moment with you.”

Elsa leaned over and squeezed hand. “How thoughtful of you, Honey. How you notice everything continually impresses me.

Was it the hot tea, or was Honeymaren blushing?