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I have an art blog but i like elio postinf here bye FLY ELIO
#elio#honkai star rail#hsr#honkai star rail elio#hsr elio#elio theory#stellaron hunters#hsr theory#artwork#hsr art#honkai star rail art#fuck ass gacha games#digital art#FLY ELIO#millions tags (trigun reference)
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they're all freaks, your honour
#honkai star rail#hsr#hsr fanart#stellaron hunters#sunday hsr#hsr kafka#elio hsr#hsr blade#silver wolf#hsr firefly#i will NOT draw the mecha suit sorry gang i can't#i subscribe to the stellaron hunter sunday theory#elio saw this dude like join my emo band#if it turns out to be true i think sunday's dynamic with the stellaron hunters would be hilarious#sunday has never been raise in a casual household so he's just getting flashbanged when someone tells him to help do the groceries#laatteheartartdump
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Stellaron Hunters and Astral Express Parallels
So, I've noticed that the Stellaron Hunters are basically a darker, murdery, and morally grey parallel version of the more heroic Astral Express, with every member mirroring another from the other group. Two sides of the same coin, if you will. First thing I'd like to point out, both factions don't really follow any current aeon. They "follow" (very loose term here) the missing-in action Akivili and the "Destiny" that Elio forsees. Both factions also are deeply involved with Stellarons(we encounter a stellaron on every planet, the Stellaron Hunters hunt them. Obviously) Here's some similarities I've thought of between the members and some theories based off each other: !!SPOILERS AHEAD!!
Dan Heng and Blade:
Both from Xianzhou,
Immortal in some way(Blade's self-regenerating and Dan Heng's reincarnations)
Same gender
Dan heng's five star form enhances his basic attack, like Blade, who I BET was ALSO a four star before the mara and Jing Liu incident
Similar age? Don't really know exact timeline between them
Both feature flowers in their gameplay(lotus flowers and spider lilies)
Himeko and Kafka:
Both intelligent women
The pseudo-moms of their faction.
I might be pulling out of my ass here, but I'd like to point out that both of them use both a ranged weapon(Himeko's laser and Kafka's gun) and also a melee weapon(Kafka's katana and Himeko's grator).
Since they are each others parallel, I'd like to make the assumption that since Himeko was the first one to join the Astral Express, that Kafka was the first one to join Elio. It just fits with the known info we have and clears up any ambiguity, but you don't have to strictly adhere by it lol.
Pom Pom and Elio
"Animals" yeah right
The being who leads their group in the direction wanted(conducter, scriptwriter, best destiny, best path to blaze)
You assume they are the cute mascot at first, but then there is something...exceptional about them, that you can't quite pin down.
Both are sentient and can presumably talk(Elio might just write to communicate, how would that work though? Toe beans? Meow to text? Lmao)
Wait....with synestheia beacons that's actually very possible. Oh god
March 7th and Silver Wolf(HEAR ME OUT)
The trendy, youthful girl of the group
....Use of technology?
yeah i got nothing BUTBUTBUT
March 7th's mysterious pasttttt. Like, the similarities between Danheng and Blade weren't revealed until his five star form was revealed and I'm making the theory that when March 7th's mysterious past is revealed, the similarities between her and Silver Wolf will appear!!!!
So Silver Wolf is from Punklord, is extremely accomplished and powerful, chaotic neutral with a sense of wanderlust. I don't know much about her(don't have her character/character story) so I can't say much more, but what I do know seems pretty plausible for March's former self.
It supports my theory that March 7th's five star form will be Nihility. Imbibiter Lunae was Destruction, like Blade. The memokeeper in March's quest said her past would "only bring her pain". How nihilistic is that? Either way, I'm definitely pulling xD
Stelle/Caleus and Firefly/Sam(the best for last ;)
So this is the one that really cemented this theory into my mind. So far, you might have noticed that every member's mirror image is the same gender(with the exception of Catlio and PomPom, I'll talk about it in the comments). But Trailblazer has TWO genders/personas. You know who ALSO has two genders/personas?FIREFLY/SAMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some theory and more similarities between them
They both are the explosive power powerhouse of their group(Stellaron and Sam's firepower)
Both pretty smart(dubious) and funny(hilarious, the both of them)
They both eat questionable things...Trailblazer's trash consumables and Firefly's woodchip Oak Cake(seriously, read the description, do they have iron stomachs or something??)
...So they might have iron stomachs.
Both were presumably artificially made. We know Firefly/Sam is(born to fight in a war) and the Trailblazer is a vessel of a Stellaron. There has to be some funky, wonky, genetic/biological makeup for that.
Welt Yang and no one lmao
Lonely ass old man, no ship?(making the no bitches face)
Anyway, I presume he doesn't have any parallel bc he's from another universe. I don't know much cause I haven't played Honkai Impact. Something about a comic and "herscherr"? Idrk but. I suppose Luocha could join the Stellaron Hunters. That would be crazy as hell and if it happens I CALLED IT, but it probably won't. Probably.
There is also the theory Sunday joined the Stellaron Hunters. It's honestly really interesting and if that's true.....Welt Yang and Sunday don't have any similarities so that's tossed out the window. So, that only leaves the possibilty that we will have a mirrored someone of Sunday joining the Astral Express in the future. That would be INSANE but fun as hell like, can you imagine?
On another, slightly less speculative note, I'd like to point out that the five stars of the Astral Express have the same paths as the Stellaron Hunters. DHIL and Blade, are both Destruction. The Trailblazer started off as Destruction and Firefly/Sam is Destruction. As I theorized above, March 7th's five star form is likely Nihility, just like Silver Wolf. Except for Himeko and Kafka. Hmmmm
It is also my theory that Kafka was supposed to be Erudition, like Himeko, but the Stellaron Disaster on her homeplanet altered her path to Nihility. We know how smart Kafka is and we've seen paths change, Dan Heng changed to Hunt after doing away his vidyadhara features, and we have switched paths multiple times now. But we know we and Dan Heng can switch between paths anytime. I think Kafka's case is different, in that she can't switch and the Stellaron permanently altered her, removing her fear and switching her Path.
So this concludes my rant, are you convinced yet ;)? It's really interesting that the two factions mirror each other so deeply. I am getting the message that, whatever our fates are, they are deeply intertwined.
Thanks a bunch for reading this far and please, let me know what you think! May the Trailblaze be with you....or something lol
Edit: AAAAAA, Firefly's pool cutscene!!! She said, and I quote "The Astral Express and the Stellaron Hunters are like light and shadow. We walk on different paths, intertwined, moving forward and growing together...Maybe the end is predestined, but, it is not today."
Idgaf, I'm taking this as confirmation!! My theories are becoming true!!!!! *high pitched squealing* Show me more, Honkai Star Rail!!!!
#sorry for any spelling mistakes#hsr spoilers#really long post#honkai star rail theory#hsr theory#honkai star rail#hsr#astral express#stellaron hunters#trailblazer#hsr stelle#hsr caelus#welt yang#dan heng#blade hsr#hsr blade#himeko#hsr himeko#hsr kafka#pom pom hsr#elio hsr#sunday hsr#hsr firefly#firefly hsr#sam hsr#hsr march 7th#hsr silver wolf#silver wolf#march 7th#silver wolf hsr
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A "theory" regarding Sampo's abilities
okay so this is an absolute mess and more of a ramble but I think it might be worth sharing so here I am Since I'm very normal about Sampo Koski, I've noticed some paralels to.. osme things... and i ended up with a concept that Sampo might be aware/know the future/what is supposed to happen, aka the same/similar thing to what Elio is using as a base to write his scripts, or is aware of the scripts that Elio creates. On Belobog we don't encounter stellaron hunters (for obvious reasons), but Sampo does end up being the one who affects the way the plot goes and actively puts it in motion, he's the one in control (to some extent) He also appears to be aware of stuff that has yet to happen and its possible outcomes (getting Natasha even before we started fighting Svarog, knowing that we will arrive on Luofu despite it being an unplanned stop, the possible future Belobog catastropy) There's 2 ways to approach this: 1. He works with how it's supposed to go, (following the trailblazer around, kinda like stellaron hunters happen to do) 2. He deliberately works against it (Jarilo VI is supposed to face destruction but he prevents it, could be for personal reasons) Theres also the whole thing about him breaking the 4th wall, which could be connected. Awarnesss of the fact that this is a game could result in him having a knowledge of what the plot of said game is.
I strongly HC Sampo to be an Elation emanator, so I thought about what being an elation emanator could mean, as in, how realistically the powers could manifest From the recent guide that was released along side the 2.2 stream, we have a small entry about Masked Fools which confirms that the path powers are DIRECTLY tied to their masks (this could mean both metaphorical or physical masks but from what i get from the context here it most likely refers to the physical ones?? the concept works with both possibilities tho so whatever <3 )
We know that sampo doesn't have his mask currently (which also works in a symbolic way, Masks represent the devotion to Elation, him not having it could represent how he wants to distance himself from what Elation is considered to be and pursue his own idea of it instead. The general description provided here for how masked fools are doesn't exactly fit him either whichmight further prove that idea, i should write a seperate post on that, anyways-) , so how the hell can he do shit that we assumed earlier was Elation-related powers? i have 2 possible explanations for this 1. Him being an emanator lets him use the path powers without a need for a mask, if thats the case - the mask would only provide a powerup 2. Elation emanator powers are something else altogether
when we look at his current power set/abilities it can all be tied to the fact that this is a game so, him bieng an emanator of elation would allow him to ignore the rules of this world/mainupulate said rules, simple as that it would also explain why he can break the 4th wall, why he is aware of the future events, what leads to them and/or how to stop them in the first place and how he can do stuff that contradicts what's been established lore vise (like how nobody should be able to cross the barrier between the Overworld and Underworld), those rules don't apply to him, he's beyond them. But there's more we DO have an in game example of people already messing with the reality in the same manner - Silver Wolf From what I gathered (with help of some friends of mine mwah mwah), the "reality editing" abilites of Punklorde people are directly tied to a technology present in said world - that combined with the world view of those living here results with them reating the world they live in as if it was a game
Adding onto that, during "punklorde mentality" mission we get to hear Leonard say this:
"Masked fools believe it really exists" so are the Masked Fools aware that someone could posses *actual* (not provided by technology) power to alter/manipulate reality and ignore the established rules of the world? We can kinda see such thing happening with Aha in stimulated universe, not only do they break the 4th wall, but according to Herta they also seem to be affecting the stimulated universe itself Aha's manipulation of reality is also mentioned in the "Glimpses into the Beyond"
So maybe to wrap it all up: 1. Sampo could be aware of the possible future events and use the reality manipulation abilities/the fact that the rules don't apply to him to achieve a desired outcome 2. Him and the Stellaron Hunters have some paralels in the narrative when it comes to the role that they play and what they do?? kinda??? 3. Punklorde people could be affiliated with Elation to some extent, even if not directly blessed by it I am probably VERY wrong about all of this but honestly I'm having fun with this theory so idc <3
#sampo koski#hsr sampo#honkai star rail#masked fools#Aha the Elation#theory#stellaron hunters#I need to throw Elio into the blender to learn their secrets#hsr silver wolf#hsr thoughts#5 star sampo needs to come out faster because im losing my mind here yayyyyyy
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I’m probably being way too suspicious, but what do we think is the under/over on this guy being Venatori?
might actually be a traitor for legit reasons
pulls punches, but only on one specific group of templars (were they supposed to pick it up? At this point, he thinks it’s still in the building)
seems confused why someone would want to interrupt a Venatori plan, instead of thinking that’s the obvious choice
surprisingly open to all that reckoning language
playing to his ego and bloodline works instantly
“to invoke change” sounds positive in this context, but it’s actually neutral — and the Venatori? Big fans of change.
response to being called noble: “we are who we are”
“[the Venatori] do not understand its power… or yours” sounds an awful lot like “this group, WHICH YOU ARE A MEMBER OF, hasn’t been appreciating your talents — it’s time for you to do what they couldn’t.” This is classic, straight-down-the-middle pride demon talk. He’s getting pride demon’d. By the pride demon. Or, if you prefer, pride spirit.
#dragon age vows & vengeance#dragon age speculation#venatori#tevinter imperium#magisterium#elio andante#solas dragon age#dragon age spoilers#dragon age inquisition spoilers#dragon age inquisition#dragon age trespasser#trespasser spoilers#dragon age#vows and vengeance#dragon age theory#fen’harel#dread wolf#vows and vengeance spoilers
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I listened to Vows and Vengence again and went down a rabbit hole of theorising about the Eye of Kethisca.
I think I need help?
#dragon age vows & vengeance#vows and vengeance#dragon age#dragon age spoilers#solas#dragon age veilguard#dragon age: the veilguard#Dragon Age Nadia#Dragon Age Elio#The Eye of Kethisca#dragon age theories#the golden city
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Summerhall by Fran Vegas
created for the 10th anniversary of The World of Ice & Fire
I’ve seen confusion about the “canon” nature of the artwork, despite our initial post indicating that this is a wholly unofficial series of commissions, for a wholly unofficial anniversary celebration. That said, of course, we direct the artists to the books, and in the cases of dragons we felt free to give them the colors that George had indicated to us for The Rise of the Dragon, which we couldn’t find a way to share in all cases. But this piece of art, by the terrific Fran Vegas, is different. The location is one that has been referenced, and glimpsed once in official art (in The World of Ice and Fire in fact): Summerhall. But the scene… well, we admit, that is what some fans call “headcanon”. We just love the idea of the image, and feeling free to see it rendered by a capable artist, we asked for it. —Elio Garcia
#a song of ice and fire#asoiaf#asoiaf art#valyrianscrolls#summerhall#rhaegar targaryen#lyanna stark#arthur dayne#ashara dayne#oswell whent#idk who the other guy is supposed to be but it's not gerold hightower; he didn't meet up with rhaegar and company until like a year later#asoiaf geography#castles#fran vegas#elio garcia#asoiaf headcanon#asoiaf theories#to repeat: this is not a canon image. it's not official. it's elio and linda's theory that they had commissioned by a professional artist#yes it's an educated and not baseless theory that ashara might've met up with or been part of rhaegar's party and they went to summerhall#but it is still a headcanon and not anything they got from grrm. if you had the money you could commission your own just-as-valid fanart#got it? good#queue and me we're in this together now
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What's your craziest/most fun Honkai Star Rail theory?
#hsr#caelus#honkai star rail#honkaistarrail#pepe silvia#meme#elio#nanook#brachyzoid#brachyartz#trailblazer#theory
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Honkai Star Rail 2.6 theory
Okay, I know Reca is a director and all about the movie, but those last lines about seeing us in the next script, saying "cut!", and the quote marks around his and Assistant Director's names in the "credits" gave me an idea. Maybe Reca is Elio and Assistant Director is what he sends his scripts through. This is probably just another off-the-wall theory, but idk, it kinda makes sense in my head.
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I BROUGHT YALL ANOTHER CRAZY THEORY
not mine actually it's from tieba, ppl are theorizing that sunday is possibly going to get recruited by elio. fascinating yet crazy right? LEMME LAY EVERYTHING DOWN
okay so sunday's design is very much inspired of ena, both his old one and the new one. it has many eyes, the halo, the golden accents. not to mention his personality that resonates with her path.
this will not make sense if u dont pay attention to elio's concept art (most likely will change by the time he appears but) here it is :
notice the amount of eyes, the sun and the similar patterns, a picture of ena for reference :
they also said that ena seems to be holding a puppet string and it could be related to "destiny's slave", i dont completely agree but it's A COOL THEORY!!
i've always assumed elio to be an omen vanguard of terminus the aeon of finality. since he has blessing/curse of seeing the future unlike finality followers i believed he might be our first finality emenator BUT! emenators could follow a different path, it's so interesting to think he could be a finality emenator but an order follower, and it makes sense! who would greatly seek to stop nanook and restore balance? well hooh too but ena would very much dedicate themselves in stopping nanook. now ena is debatably dead but paths don't disappear. but keep in mind we actually don't know which aeon gives the stellaron hunters powers.
so far we don't know what the stellaron in penacony does, it doesnt seem to be the threat itself but the one who obtains it might be dangerous. that's why elio wants the nameless to go after the stellaron. but that doesnt make THAT much sense either, why wouldn't the stellaron hunters themsleves do the job? they're already capable. if u ask me penacony feels the best place for kafka/SW instead, it might be easier for us to obtain it if we help the family but anyways- we can go on forever abt why it's not right so lets force this theory to make sense tehee~
i talked abt how sunday might learn a truth after his "death", gallagher's voice line abt him is "He reminds me of the "Odes of Harmony," but I caught a whiff of something behind the facade he puts on... something real." the odes of harmony is basically a song praising xipe, he means sunday being a reserved religious saint like person, is a facade and gallagher saw something real. based on my post where i discovered that i'm a follower of nous after all (i'm not-) https://www.tumblr.com/yellowymellon/746431759854551040/you-know-it-would-be-funny-if-the-actual-villain?source=share
gallagher might've caught on it earlier and targeted sunday from all the family heads, if he was going to kill in any case he needed the best victims that could give him the break through he needed, robin might've been just the stepping stone to kill the oak family head (important) who conveniently might be the one to side with him (YALL IM COOKING AND IT'S BURNING)
sunday is described as perfect on the outside but secretly a freak, he shows no mercy to what he thinks is wrong and doesn't compromise. but i don't trust him with what he thinks is wrong. he might be shrewd and manipulative fitting for a head, but still young and emotional to make absolutes (judgements). see, the family is a perpetrator to many MANY evil stuff that shouldn't be in his book (literally lol)
u see where i'm going? me neither elio could potentially need to ally with sunday if his stance changes after learning the whole, purest truth
#elio and sunday? in the same sentence? ITS HEAVEN#maybe it's me coping maybe im unto something (death)#nah ill do 10 last pulls if gallgher comes home this theory IS CORRECT#i saw tiny pic spoilers from 2.2 cuz they're everywhere in twitter and i feel like i'm cooking LET ME COOK PLS WAAAAA#my genius is sometimes too frightening ikik#hsr spoilers#honkai star rail#hsr#hsr sunday#hsr gallagher#if there's typos know that i can't spell#penacony#hsr elio
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ELIO INSANE PERSON RAMBLINGS AFTER DISSECTING SEEING THE LEAK
Pt. 1 because I have more to say somehow erm.
Theres basically no content for him but hes sosooo cuteeeeee
Context: In my head he is a fly he has compound eyes like the fly loswr he is
CW: Leaks maybe spoilers??
[ Design/Symbolism (IMG A)
OK FIRST OBSERVE FLY EYES; Theyre compound and have millions of ‘bubbles’ in them. So in my head on elio would represent the different “bubble universes” or rather the millions of possibilities that although generally the same, slightly differ with different choices and outcomes
ELIO IS ALSO AKSHUALLY THE FLY ON THE WALL that phrase represents him really well considering although hes the leader hes the one in the limelight the least out of everyone and just gathers info while making plans. Flies are also considered filthy and sly and bottom feeders n pests and as a stellaron hunter he gets the same treatment as well
[ Function (IMG B)
But besides the appearance the actual function: This is pretty good symbolism for what he sees bc not only does he see a wider range of possibilities than the average person but he can also notice even the slightest movements which is ofc the slightest changes in a scenario that makes the outcome completely different and about flies being able to see things at a quicker pace; I heard that when u swat at a fly they see it in like slow motion and this is pretty symbolic of elio since he sees FARRR into the future wayyy before its even close to coming to fruition
[ Theories (IMG C)
A silly lil hc theory i have bc of this fact and because his alias is “Destiny’s Slave” is that he cant rlly control seeing the future much kind of like a premonition..????? Idk but i like to play with how herta calls all the stellaron hunters lunatics and him a maniac bc like. Its a little true. Theyre all a lil bit cray cray from what weve seen but theres method to their madness so im like hm well elio must have his quirks SO seeing the future so often without wanting to has him a little bit (crazy person hand gesture) so i imagine its a little overwhelming when he suddenly gets a “premonition” like when he suddenly sees the future its a bunch of scattered possibilities filling his mind but when he focuses on it they can converge to create a “perfect reality” where everything goes the best way possible
Also theres so many different “paths” the future holds like it could be the future for that day or the fate of the world or even the fate of the universe so i imagine he was either made/given this power specifically to puppeteer this specific outcome or “story” but its a little draining to think of the big picture constantly or think about things the bigger they are which is why he makes scripts day by day or week by week (????)
I also think he gets like reminders kinda like little flashes into some specific aspects that although he has seen hasnt really focused on or been able to think of bc theyr pretty far ahead and his head is already full so it being so overwhelming, just slipped his mind to kind of create a whole “chain of events” URGGHHH THIS IS SO HARD I CANT TELL IF HES OMNIPOTENT OR LEARNING ALONG THE WAY
I also found it interesting that he told kafka that she and stelle would “change each other” it heavily suggests that maybe he can force the thought of specific scenarios OR MAYBE in his “perfect reality” he has an already decided script which he doesnt deviate from so he already knows what to say. Otherwise how would he know how vague or how exact to be about what he tells people
In the alt ending in the credits hes listed as screenplay director and the screenplay directors are the ones pulling the strings yeah but as another character in the story or “movie” that means he knows exactly what his part is too and is therefore another puppet to be controlled OU LET ME COOK 👩🍳🍔🔥
#hsr elio#elio#honkai star rail#hsr#hsr theory#stellaron hunters#honkai star rail elio#PLS NO MORE OF THW CAT#Flyelio#elio theory#hsr leaks
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Evidence that points towards Sunday potentially joining the Stellaron Hunters
Since this theory has been tormenting my mind for a few weeks now, I've decided to compile all of the information we have so far that could maybe point towards Sunday joining the Stellaron Hunters.
Now that we know he can't return to Penacony, he can't return to Robin, and he has to keep on moving towards his goal, the likelihood of him being picked up by the Stellaron Hunters is stronger than ever.
He has a complicated past and has been left adrift and alone without a path to follow or a future for himself. He's alone and he still aims for an impossible goal - in my opinion, he is a prime candidate to join this faction now that his plan on Penacony has fallen apart with no possibility of ever coming true.
He continues to strive for a seemingly unachievable perfect paradise for all, a place where the weak can be protected and kept happy for all of their lives like birds in safe cages. He still strives for this, the only difference now is that be knows that this is no longer possible to create on Penacony.
This is made clear in the description of his new light cone 'After the Charmony fall'
'He carries the past, turns his back on his homeland, and continues towards a paradise that does not yet exist'
His old life has burned to cinders behind him in his wake. He can never return to how things were before. That life before this has ended, and he has no choice but to leave it and walk another path.
The Family won't even mention Sunday by name anymore and have attempted to delete all of the memories of what happened in 2.2 from the minds of those living inside the dreamscape.
Even Robin avoids mentioning him by name which is upsetting as she's likely been told to do so, instead calling him 'the former head of the Oak family'.
There has already been an attempt by the family to bury Sunday. He could not be more cut off from his past now and there is no future for him on Penacony.
He has no choice but to leave and spread his wings. Whatever path he may take now it doesn't change the fact that he has to either join a faction or travel alone, and I personally severely doubt he'd travel alone. For his plan to work, which he still aims for, he needs more than just himself, and he needs the help of someone who can promise ridiculous things.
First off, I really want to quickly detour into some of the misconceptions I've seen recently surrounding Stellaron Hunters, one of these being that people seem to believe the Scripts are some sort of demon contracts that cannot be broken, leaving those who follow them devoid of their own free will, even when with everything we know this is so very far from the truth. Elio's scripts are a guide and are not a forceful contract that his Hunters are totally bound to and it doesn't make much sense to assume that they are with all of the information we know about them.
The comparisons I've seen between Elio's script and Gopher Wood's grooming baffled me. They can't be compared, in my opinion. They are entirely different.
One of the reasons why many people believe Sunday will deny the invitation to the Stellaron Hunters (as I believe the invitation has already been sent, which I'll go on to talk about) is because Elio's script contains Sunday and Robin's eternal separation.
I've seen some people believing this is something Elio himself has decided will happen, however that isn't how this works.
Firefly often defies the script, she even talks about it throughout the 2.X patches in Penacony, however the script always ends up coming true regardless of this. Even Blade tells her this, he says she has a bad habit of defying what the script asks her to do.
I believe It's not that Elio has decided that this is their fate, but rather fate itself has decided this is Robin and Sunday's fate, and I believe Sunday will try to defy this fate and go in opposition of destiny.
Whether this separation is the result of the siblings treading on different paths, or it is the price Robin had to pay for Sunday's freedom, the script may still say this for the same reason that our eventually fight against Nanook is inevitable - it is going to happen no matter what.
That's not to say Sunday can't try to defy it, though.
That also does not mean that every single future path leads to a definite eternal separation, what I'm saying is that either this IS definite, it is set in stone and will happen regardless of wether Sunday joins the Hunters or not and no matter which path Elio goes down - OR it is a changeable future, likely from Sunday accepting the invitation to join the Stellaron Hunters, so that he can actively walk backwards from this fate that awaits them both otherwise.
Elio's script is a possible future he foresaw, one that he wants to lead his Hunters down as it leads to the most desired future for us.
Elio has already expressed that we should reach the end of the story in our own way and Kafka even tells us at the very beginning of the game to not make a choice that we may regret.
So, Elio's scripts are not binding contracts that force the Hunters to follow a predetermined path, but rather they are guides that lead to a desired future.
Sunday has been clear that he intends to still find another place to create his perfect paradise where the weak are protected, and who better to provide him a solution to his problem than Elio - the guy who's been making seemingly impossible promises for a long time now. It's kind of his whole thing.
I'm going to start off with the most obvious example that I feel is less of a hint and more of a slap in the face. I've been thinking about this readable ever since it became a major point of attention after it was first discovered. To me it's pretty cut and dry about what it is; it is a poem from Elio to Sunday, predicting his fall from grace before it has even happened - which is proof of Elio's ability to foresee the future - and at the end an invitation to join them in order to still make his dream come true.
Death of the Crow is a readable that can be found in Dreamflux Reef immediately after accessing it at the beginning of the 2.2 quest. It is a poem written in the style of The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe.
The first interesting piece of information before even reading the contents is its description:
Obviously, what stands out most for me is the line
'Or perhaps, some kind of mysterious invitation'.
This poem goes through Sunday's life and then it delves into Sunday's future.
The second stanza at the beginning of the poem refers to Sunday and the Charmony dove, a story he draws back to often in 2.2 as it had a major effect on him and his current view point, particularly in the way that Gopher Wood framed that situation to Sunday when he was a child. It is a huge basis for the majority of the beliefs he holds to this day.
Gopher Wood praised Sunday's apprehension and fear, whilst he patronized Robin and called her ideas 'idealistic' and 'romantic'. He identified Sunday as the more fearful and anxious of the two and he decided he would be the focus of his grooming.
As far as Gopher Wood was concerned, Sunday and Robin are twins of the order, but only one would follow this path to the very end. He took Sunday's desire to protect the weak and ensure that no matter what they stay alive and weaponized it against him creating a situation in which Sunday was willing to sacrifice himself in order to maintain a beautiful and safe dream that everyone would live in apart from himself. His story parallels Jesus, and the plot of 2.2 is especially obvious about that.
The poem goes on to discuss other aspects of Sunday's life that lead him to this point that we've currently reached in the story, and then goes beyond this to talk about things that, at the time of being able to find this readable, have not happened yet.
The only person really who could have sent this poem to Sunday is Elio. He can see into the future, as well as this he is heavily involved in the script of Penacony in a way that he hasn't been on any other planet thus far. His input in Penacony is immense especially when this is compared to his other scripts.
I think what's most important about this poem is:
That you can find this prior to when Sunday 'ascends the stage' and 'stole the authority'
The last verse
The name of the sender.
Going through the list let's draw attention to each one and pick the information apart.
'You ascended the stage, you stole the authority, you strived for divinity You raised the dim curtain, your self-directed farce skillfully honed. Your heart overflew with pureness, while the shadows of the puppets cast grim shadows in their play. Your soul embraced compassion, daring to forge a scale that will never sway. "Behold," you proclaimed, "the utopia of absolute bliss," Yet the dream shattered, "Nevermore."'
This is a clear prediction of future events that the sender of the poem should not know of, as they have not yet happened. I can presume this was likely written and then sent to Sunday by this 'mysterious author' to prove that the future sight that they will later claim to have upon their meeting is, in fact, real, and that he can promise him whatever it is that Sunday would possibly want.
'Your old dreams are as dead soil, barren of hope and bereft, Yet how can a noble soul wither and fade, left adrift? I shall await your arrival, with open arms and boundless hope, Here lie the truest dreams, where infinite possibilities lope. Here, all your ambitions shall be fulfilled and set aflame, The past forever transformed, and nevermore'
To me, this section is the invitation. This isn't about Sunday's past or where their plan in Penacony will lead them - this is an invitation.
Particularly the lines 'yet how can a noble soul wither and fade, left adrift?' it's clear Elio holds Sunday in high regard and would think it a pity if he were to wander aimlessly from here on forward, and 'I shall await your arrival, with open arms and boundless hope' sounds so very incredibly Elio.
'Yours, Most Sincerely Cecil Simmes'
This one is interesting to me, however I haven't played the game that this name references.
Spoiler warnings for Ghost Trick for this section. I'll leave the information pertaining to the plot of Ghost Trick between two blue bars so you can skip past this section if it's a game you plan on playing.
I first became aware of this piece of evidence via the thread by @/hxg_diluc who I believe was one of the first people to post about the Stellaron Hunter Sunday theory waaaaay back when you could first find this readable.
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Ghost Trick is a game with an MC called Sissel (who I hear has the same spelling as the sender of Death of the Crow in the Chinese version, according to the aforementioned thread), who is a black cat with yellow eyes and a red scarf.
This character changes the fate of others by reversing time, much like Elio changing the fate of others via the scripts. With all we know about Elio this feels like a really deliberate reference.
Elio is pretty commonly known as being shown as a black cat, you see him as such in Kafka's splash art, in SAM's light cone, and in the art during the Jepella rebellion.
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To continue on from Ghost Trick, SAM's boss theme is called Nevermore, which is repeated often in the poem The Raven and Death of the Crow.
The description of the disk is 'Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!', which is a direct reference to Edgar Allen Poe's The Raven and Elio's version of the same poem reworked to refer to Sunday's life and future.
The next section is about Sunday's new light cone, the description of which I've already spoken about earlier when talking about how he still aims for that paradise even though he was defeated in Penacony.
This light cone contains a similar gramophone to Kafka's. This is something that as far as I'm aware is unique to these two light cones.
This light cone was voiced! The lines it was voiced with really caught my attention when paired with the lore drop about Finality we were given recently.
'May all wishes come true,
The end is also the beginning'
The second line intrugued me most.
On its own, it just brings forth the idea that Sunday is going to be treading a new path in life, which is - like, yeah we already know that lol he kind of doesn't have a choice about that, but with the context of everything to do with the path of Finality that was released this patch, the same patch that this light cone was dropped, it can be read in a new light.
The line itself sounds very in tune with the path of Finality, in fact it sounds like something Elegy could have said herself when we're asking about Finality.
'Finality isn't the end of everything. All things will originate from there and move on to the next Finality.'
I just think that's worth some attention now that this patch confirmed that the Stellaron Hunters travel on the path of Finality.
We also get to see into Firefly's notebook! (which is super cute and tells us about all the gifts she bought for everyone) but what I noticed was that Elio asked for the 'Odes of Harmony' which is a readable that can be found in Dewlight Pavilion.
Sunday has been compared to the Odes of Harmony by Gallagher, so my mind immediately went here.
This very well may mean nothing, this one is another piece of info where I could be stretching, but again I feel like this is worth pointing out because it's there along with all the other stuff. It's one of many things that when you put them together I feel it just piles higher and higher.
There's also this...
Sparkle talking about a chicken with black cat sunglasses. Which, standalone it's silly, but...
That's such a specific thing to say. A chicken that's wearing black cat sunglasses? Come on lol
We know that this relates to Sunday, because she also mentions a peacock (Aventurine) and a swan (Black Swan). The animals she talks about are meant to represent characters from the story and aren't random animals that have popped into her mind.
Since she calls Sunday chicken wing boy the chicken in question is most definitely Sunday - but giving it a white suit and black cat sunglasses? That's just so extremely specific. Especially when we know Elio is portrayed as a black cat throughout the story.
We know Sparkle has inside information because she was able to take a peek at a script, so knowing that, then what the hell did she mean by this?
There's also this image of all of the Stellaron Hunters after the Jepella rebellion and in the corner there are some crows in the air.
Sunday is portrayed as a crow in the Harmony Trailblazer splash art, but even going beyond that Sunday has crow and raven imagery surrounding him anyways. That is what Sunday is represented by.
So this could be some foreshadowing.
I also think if this is true and Sunday is recruited, he won't be our only recruited Stellaron Hunter in the story. It makes sense to me, why would Elio stop recruiting Hunters? Why should he when he sees someone of promise who could join their faction?
I'm unsure how many there could be, but I definitely see it as a possibility that two, or three, or even more Stellaron Hunters could be recruited during the duration of the game. Furthermore, I think that's a good thing. I think if that's true it's a big positive.
I feel like it would be a great addition to the story. It could even open up the oppertunity for characters to join the Astral Express too. Characters joining groups, leaving groups, changing paths - it would be a really interesting route for the game to go down.
The Stellaron Hunters have almost entirely been released as playable now apart from Elio himself, so recruiting some more as the story continues will keep them fresh and potentially throw in some really interesting interactions and character development. Plus, they are extremely marketable characters.
#Was the beginning of this post just me being kind of pissed#that people keep acting like Elio makes his Hunters follow a script whilst he holds a gun to their head?#Maybe...#Sunday#hsr theory#I'm sleepy so apologies for any repeated words or any mistakes
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We need to talk about the web event Code: ACTION
Spoilers ahead
First, albeit this event was short, it was packed with lore for the Stellaron Hunters.
It either confirmed things or gave us New Info.
For example, on Blade:
Blade was hard to convince in joining the Hunters, but he and Elio get along well. Blade was also the one to help Silver Wolf on her first mission.
Then we have more cutesy details, like this:
We already know about some of Blade's past and about his "hometown" but look!
Silver Wolf is asking Kafka to stop bullying Blade with his memories! That's so cute of her!
But now, I have to go deep into theory crafting.
Buckle up, boys and girls and non-binary kids.
So, as some of you may have noticed, once in a blue moon, we get to see a specific Stellaron Hunter being mentioned.
Yes, I'm talking about Sam.
Now, my followers and mutuals know my stance on them. Here's a link to my biggest argument towards:
Sampo is a Stellaron Hunter a.k.a. Sam
But you may ask: "Why are you bringing this here?"
Well, because Sam is taking care of lighting during the event. Thus why we don't see them.
But that's not all...
Because we know of someone else who helps backstage once in a while...
Sampo Koski.
Also, did you read what Sam says about Blade's picture? The one meant to recreate when he joined the Hunters?
Sam says it's "a good recreation".
Which means Sam was there when it happened.
Keep that in mind, I'll come back to it later.
Because now, we have to talk about Elio.
And Elio...
Is the cat.
Don't believe me? Buckle up, darling.
Have Kafka namedrop her homeplanet and Blade tell us that's where she met Elio.
On a rainy day.
Where have we seen Kafka under the rain already...?
Ah, yes, in her splash art.
We can also see Blade and Silver Wolf there, and there's plenty of hidden spots for Sam to hide.
Now, the question is: Is Elio there, too?
Are they under another umbrella?
No. Of course not.
Elio is staring back at us, just like Kafka is.
Hoyo even put Kafka's quote right next to them.
The irony. I love it.
Also...
Nice cat statue.
Nice black cat statue.
Wonder if it represents someone who isn't here.
Aaaaand with all the information gathered from this...
We have the order in which the Hunters joined:
Elio > Kafka > Sam > Blade > Silver Wolf
Last point, because I need to answer a potential question:
What if the cat was Sam?
The answer is no, they aren't, because the IPC calls Elio Destiny's Slave (and we know black cats have a history regarding luck aka fortune/fate/destiny (which is just misconception, ofc, but my point still stands)) and constantly genders them as neutral, like you would a pet or simply something that is not-human but humanly sentient, thus ""deserving of the respect you would give a human being"" regarding how you would talk to/about them.
Thus, Elio is the cat. A sentient cat.
#honkai star rail#hsr spoilers#spoilers#hsr theory#hsr kafka#hsr silver wolf#hsr elio#hsr sampo#hsr blade#elio is the cat#sam is sampo#spoiler#hsr spoiler
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the stellarol hunters being followers of finality felt like smth that was right beneath my nose—especially after that whole essay about acheron and finality—and I MISSED IT. IT WAS SO OBVIOUS. THE WHISPERS OF DESTINY WAS NOT A FORGETFUL GIRL ASKING CRYPTIC QUESTIONS, IT WAS THE DUDE WRITING SCRIPTS THAT NEVER MISS.
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i love how star rail paints fate as not just one single End. there are countless paths towards fate, and theres multiple possible "endings", even if some are more or less likely than others because one end may have more paths that lead to it
and that defying fate isnt even on the table (currently). they work within the confines of the rules, seeing a potential "ending" they want to achieve, so they try to work with the established order to specifically land on the path that leads towards it. it doesnt paint fate as a terrible, unavoidable thing that makes you feel powerless (like genshin) but rather as fate just being the way the world works and highlighting the importance of Your Choices
maybe 99% of fates suck, but theres still the 1% that doesnt suck. although the chances of getting that are unlikely, its still technically possible. in the wise words of dr. veritas ratio himself
a possibility still exists even if it is infinitesimal, but it is Not Zero
#honkai star rail#hsr#i looooove how hsr handles fate. its so hopeful#i have like 435945 thoughts about fate and aeons and the plot. still in the process of writing a theory i have also#this is also why i love penacony So much and not just bc aventurine exists. well that too. but also because#“make the impossible possible” “make your dreams reality”-> is literally The Plot to me. the stellaron hunters Thing of guiding us#towards the most fortunate ending#it seems futile the chances may be infinitesimal but theyre still Trying to get on the 0.000000001% path towards the Best Fate#bIows kisses towards penacony#anyway so elio is an emanator of order am i right guys
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So ive been looking into stellaron hunter, especially elio, theories and so far i’ve seen people say that hes either:
the black cat on kafkas splash art
A supernatural being
that long haired grey dude from hi3 (su i think?)
A roobot (like screwllum)
a little gremlin bastard man (my favorite)
#elio little bastard man agenda#Okay but i hope hes like a tired mother of four who runs purely on spite and cofee#As a writer id say its accurate i run on spite and multiple sweet foods that mightg give me diabetes#Hsr#honkai star rail#max yaps#theory#stellaron hunters#elio hsr#kafka hsr#sam hse#Silver wolf#bladr hsr
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