#myth rambles

[storynerd121]

Epic: The Musical on shuffle is wild af. I just went from Remember Them to Hold Tem Down to Open Arm to Odysseus. Like bro 😭 gimme a break

[gingermintpepper]

I think, perhaps one of the funniest things to come from EPIC popularising the Odyssey is that now a ton of people think Poseidon wanted to kill Odysseus.

In the Odyssey, Poseidon has no intention of killing Odysseus. In fact, part of the whole reason Zeus lets Poseidon do whatever he wants even though he thinks Odysseus is rad and should get to kiss his wife is explicitly because Poseidon had no intentions of killing Odysseus. Poseidon wanted to pay back the suffering/inconvenience blinding Polyphemus would have caused. It's a really abstract thing tbh. How do you pay back someone permanently disabling your son? Poseidon's solution was just to amputate Odysseus from his other half; i.e. Penelope. The end game was never murder, it was always an endurance race.

(Od. Book 1: Zeus reassuring Athena that he is not, in fact, a part of Odysseus Hater-Nation. Trans. Robert Fagles)

Also, for those wondering if there's any sort of in text reason for why Poseidon wasn't around in God Games - at the time in the Odyssey when Athena petitions Zeus to let Odysseus leave Calypso's island, Poseidon was -checks notes- on vacation in Ethiopia. Yep. He left to Ethiopia for a festival and thusly was very much absent for Athena's whole "please let Ody go? Please? 🥺" request.

(Od. Book 1: While Odysseus was suffering, Poseidon went to party in the east)

I am begging y'all to read the Odyssey. It's a comedy for everyone except Odysseus and Penelope who are, in fact, suffering 24/7 365.

[mythpawlogy]

Strong Hearts are Mandatory tier list based on their huggability.

Teelia approved.

[heart-select]

fav hobbit fic (mostly bagginshield) tropes that delight me to no end

dwarves making bets (esp on matters of courtship)

line of durin having horrible sweet tooth

Acknowledging Bilbo as the grandson of Old Took, the Thain (gasp he's a prince!)

courting each other without telling you're courting but everyone in the room knowing whats going on

Thorin coming back with Bilbo and people assuming theyre married (that one shire custom about disappearing and coming back together) (bonus if bilbo does not explain)

Bilbo wearing mithril mail Thorin gave and people assuming theyre married

Alternatively theyre married but people are making bets when theyre gonna get together bc they don't know

Bofur has the best stone sense out of the entire company (i like him smart stupid 😔 ❤️)

inseperable heirs of durin (bonus dumb shenanigans) (bonus bonus: theyre also actually competent, theyre both just bored)

Bilbo's family having a time with the dwarves (bonus: hobbits taking in dwarves well enough for gossip and work) (wbk its dori thats having tea with them every 3 days between luncheon and dinner)

Dwalin being really good with kids even if he doesn't like it (he's building an army)

Dwalin Clocking Thorin's attraction to the hobbit and making fun of him for it (still supportive)

Anything that has to do with Dis and her being a menace specifically to Thorin

[mistakes-have-been-made]

I love it when even Greek mythology also affects my music taste because what is this-

I- look man it's just good idk what to say

If you happen to know any other Greek mythology musicals please let me know I would love to add more to the collection :3

[szynkaaa]

kicks down everyone's door folks I might have figured out how tall Sun Wukong/Destined One is in Black Myth Wukong.

Starting with a disclaimer that this is just my speculation and nothing is confirmed unless the dev state otherwise

So y'know how the collector's edition came with this amazing Wukong figurine:

amazing right? I want one too.

The description states that the figure is 40cm tall (according to playasia)

The figure is made by Queen Studio, specifically the INART team that makes 1:6 figures.

So we know that the figure is 40cm tall. It is not clear if that includes stand or not, and I was not able to find any information how tall the stand is

On another website (which I don't want to name because I don't know how serious the website is) lists up the figure as 315mm/31.5cm

If that is the height of the actual figure without stand, and it's a 1:6 figure, that means 31.5cm * 6 = 189 cm

So that means it is very possible Destined One/Sun Wukong is 189 cm / 6 feet 2 inch tall.

that is TALL. a lot taller than I thought he would be tbh LOL cause in the books he is usually described as the shortest (cause well, monkey)

which ALSO means.

Wukong better be paying for her chiropractor with the amount of crancking her neck up she has to do.

EDIT 07/01/2025

Some more evidence that the Destined One / Sun Wukong may around 180-190cm tall in the game:

Justin's Collection posted a very detailed and unboxing and review video for the 1:6 scaled figure that came with the Collector's Edition, which you can watch here.

There is one where the Destined One stands next to the VTS TOYS Ghost of Tsushima ~Jin Sakai figure, which is also a 1:6 scale

I tried to find how tall the Jin Sakai figure is, and according to this reseller website, it is listed up as 30 cm

30*6 = 180 cm

if you look at the eyebrow level as pointed out by @blackknight-kai, chances are our Monkey is a wee bit taller

My previous math put DO/SWK at 189cm without base, and 180 - 190cm does sound about right.

I know that in some game screenshots, Monkey looks very tiny compared to the enemies, with NPCs also sometimes being 2-3 times his size.

I personally think this was done for the gaming experience, because it is easier to see enemies and their moves when they are bigger, but when you look at the opening cinematic of SWK and Erlang fighting, Erlang is just a bit taller than Wukong

Here is a screenshot of Pingping next to DO, we don't know how tall Pingping is but say she is average women height (160cm?) the height difference would make sense

So yeah. Please keep in mind the height is not officially confirmed, just what my math is mathing base don the officially released figure!

[quitesins]

Edit: Heyyy wrote a little drabble from this idea yay!!!

Non Mc!Reader who finds out she isn’t human, but a dragon, as her beastly features start to come in. She’s confused and scared by the sudden burn in her skull, the foreign skin growing on top of her own. And Sylus who finds her first, either through rumours or chance, looking at the pitiful thing and deciding to take her in, despite all his conflicting feelings.

Naturally, he is curious. He is meant to be the last of his kind. Beyond himself, he has never seen a dragon before. You confuse him a little.

Another part is protective, how quickly would you become a subject, threatening his existence just by being studied for yours.

And a soft part of him becomes a child again. Seeing himself alone to the changes of his body, alone to becoming a monster, alone to live out the rest of his days…

He can’t just leave you here. It wouldn’t be fair.

[seraphim-seeker]

WHY CAN’T I BE NORMAL ABOUT THESE ASSHOLES!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! I can’t be normal about these cheeky mofos

[h4venpha]

sylusmc first interaction.. sylus’s “i guess you dont remember anything” while sadly smiling and running his fingers over her cheek OHHH IT HURTS IT HURTS SO BAD PLEASEEE

[sky-scribbles]

When I think about Gale and Mystra, I'm reminded of the Greek myth of the moon goddess who fell in love with a shepherd and asked Zeus to place him in an enchanted sleep, so that he would never change. So he would be beautiful and hers forever.

There are different versions of the myth, but this is the one I knew as a kid - and it always made me so fucking sad. And now I see why, because Selene loves Endymion - and her love takes his life from him. A god could not love Endymion as a mortal loves a mortal; she wants his presence to gaze on, to soak in, his body to hold. Perhaps he's a balm to her immortal existence; perhaps his beauty is an inspiration to her - but she does not want him, not all of him, not really. She doesn't want his sheep flock, the evenings where his fingers burn from the cold. She doesn't want his voice, or the lines and experience he'll gather as he ages. She doesn't want to live a life alongisde his.

Selene would say she loves Endymion, and perhaps, yes, Mystra would say she loved Gale. But how can a god love a mortal in a way that a mortal can recognise as love? You soak up his company, you laugh with him, you value his mind and his talent and his deftness with words. His presence is a spot of bright difference in your endless existence. But will you change with him? Will you be vulnerable with him? Will you look him in the eye, as an equal? Will you stroke his cat and put a blanket over his shoulder when he falls asleep reading, make soup for him when he's sick? Would you love him as a person, not a treasure? You can't.

Gale wanted to be loved with a devotion to match his own. Mystra wanted him to live in the enchanted sleep of being hers, something to smile at and hold but never, never to live beside. And she knew - she must have known - how unequal their desires were. She kept him anyway, until she didn't. Until he woke up.

A god's love ruins mortals.

[upslapmeal]

"but Pyramids of Mars established that Sut-" my friend this is the three-separate-explanations-for-Atlantis show, as far as I'm concerned they can have a free-for-all when it comes to real-world mythology

"but they're ruining the canon!!" buddy I got good news for you, Doctor Who canon is a buffet and you don't have to eat anything you don't want to

[storynerd121]

Why is this song low-key reddie coded

"After all this time I'm still into you"?

"I should be over all the butterflys"?

I mean come on its reddie!

[lotusloong]

Do you have specific headcanons for the different Monkey Kings? Do you have a favorite? Mine is Dasheng from Hero is Back :3

Hi hi!! Specific headcanons hmm? I guess I do have a couple that are general as well as some that are relationship specific! Honestly if people want to request specific headcanon lists and reactions I'm happy to write those too!

General headcanons about miscellaneous monkeys!

Out of all the different Wukongs that exist, MKR!Wukong is the best cook. I think this purely off of vibes, the fact that in his movie we see him savor the flavor of the immortal fruit and literally travel across China to get the most luxurious bowl he can for his master to drink water out of…It comes off to me that he’s a Wukong who cares about food and how it's presented.

Which is good for his S/O, you will have the best meals while traveling on the road with him. The only other person he shares food with would be his Master, and even then it’s on a rare basis. You? You’re eating what he makes every night and you best believe that Bajie is practically crawling at your feet begging for a taste cause he knows MKR!Wukong is the best cook in the group, who also refuses to share with him.

Contrary to this, LMK and NGNR!Wukong are both the worst cooks. Not that they don’t know how to cook, they can whip up something decent, the problem is do they have the patience and desire to do so? LMK will literally subsist on those peach chips, eating only that, if he was allowed to. Its not like it’ll kill him, but it would affect his fighting and general stamina levels so fine, he’ll eat a proper meal…

NGNR!Wukong is similar but the reason he doesn’t care about eating properly is because of that general hopelessness and depression he’s fighting through. It’s hard to convince himself to actually get out of bed some days, he definitely doesn’t care about standing in front of a stove to make a proper meal for himself. This does get better after Li or an S/O enters his life. Having people who care about you and encourage you to keep going definitely helps.

Netflix!Wukong would so totally have a skin care routine in modern day. He is all about face masks and sugar scrubs. If he and the Eastern Dragon King ever settle their differences and become friends, they would go to the spa together and gossip about other gods the whole time.

Speaking of, if his S/O is having a bad day, Netflix!Wukong would hold up a finger, telling you to wait just a moment as he leaves the room. When he comes back, he’s wearing a plush robe (with one for you thrown over his arm ofc) and a bottle your preferred drink after a hard day. He’ll settle down next to you and pull out his beauty care stuff, anything from face masks to nail polish, and encourage you to “spill the tea”, as the kids say in the modern day, while you pretty each other up.

Now BMW!Wukong is extremely protective. Not to say the other Wukongs aren’t, but BMW is probably the most…feral about it. Other Wukongs would simply bash your attacker on the head and glare before turning to you, asking if you’re okay, you’re not hurt right, etc-

But BMW? He’s not hitting your attacker on the head to knock the guy out, he’s lifting the stupid fucker high above his head and suplexing him back into the dirt. If your attacker is still twitching and groaning after that, Wukong will go for the throat. With his teeth. It’s a messy and bloody death, and after giving the corpse one last kick for daring to upset you, he’ll turn back to you with these big ol’ vulnerable eyes and ask if you’re okay.

There’s blood coating his entire front half, but you’ve never felt safer.

Now HIB!Wukong is so goddamn tired, but this monkey will do anything if it makes you and your adopted little ones smile. He’s probably the most “responsible” Wukong to exist, but that's still a very loose “responsible”. He’s still a Wukong, through and through, and has his moments of mischief.

An example - HIB!Wukong is notorious for stealing your things and holding them hostage till you give a “proper” amount of kisses. What is the proper amount of kisses? Who the hell knows, he never says. It changes every time he makes his demands. You’ve learned as his S/O to just pull him close and give him kiss after kiss till he’s a puddle in your arms. Then you’re free and clear to take your stolen item back and he won’t even complain.

I hope you like these! If anyone wants me to expand on them or wants to start a convo with me about any of the monkeys I’d be ecstatic to answer!

As for my favorite version of our monkey…Honestly I don’t know if I can choose? I really like them all for different reasons! I like how certain versions focus more on Wukong’s flaws and how he has to work to overcome them, like Netflix, LMK, and the OG Book version. But I like how other versions focus on how lonely he is and how he struggles to make genuine connections with others because of the life he’s lived, like HIB, NGNR, and MKR.

I also love how each of them has their own unique style that fits them! You would think there's only so many different ways you can draw a monkey, but the different sources (and even fans!) have so many unique ideas that really shine and make each Wukong their own! 

I could say my favorite Wukong is Black Myth/Destiend One because he’s the one that got me to nose dive into Chinese myth and lore, but I also have a soft spot for MKR because he was the first movie version I watched and I adored how they tackled his inner struggle with caring about those around him. But NGNR is veeeerrryyyy much my type. I love his casual swagger and nonchalant attitude towards everything, because he knows he’s the baddest bitch in the room and no one is going to challenge him and his strength. (That scene where he’s walking through East Dragon’s foyer and is messing with all the goons? Stealing their drinks and hats and calling them dumbasses as he passes by? Holy shit I was ready to get on my knees for him right then and there.)

And I could go on and on with the others like how I love HIB because the English version has him voiced by the legend Jackie Chan himself! And he loves his kids soooo much and my breeding/pregnancy kink loooovveeess that about him. Same with LMK! He tries so hard to be a good role model for MK, even if he messes up, because he genuinely cares for the boy!!! AAHHGGG-!

Honestly I don’t think I can choose just one as my favorite. They all have so many good points ♥

[restlesskeychains]

Ranking Iliad people by how great of a gossip buddy they would be (these are just random thoughts ahahaha)

Achilles 6/10 - idk i feel like achilles would just start whining halfway through about how the person we are gossiping about wronged them and then the convo would all be about him and I’d get bored but the drama is still really fun yk and it’s juicy as hell but you don’t wanna talk about achilles all the time yk

Patroclus 9/10 - patroclus is the type of guy you could get really deep with. i feel like Patroclus would just start getting deep and then we’d start analysing the people were talking about

Nestor 0/10 - my man would turn everything into a 5000000000 word lecture

Paris 10/10 - my man would have caused all of the drama anyway so he would just be describing it all in the best way possible and he’s just whining and dissing people left and right and it would just be such a great convo

Odysseus 10/10 - my man would know ALL THE DRAMA he would describe everything in such great detail and i would be on the edge of my seat but i would need to like think abt what i was gonna say in a reaction cuz ik this bastard will use anything i say against me

Hector 5/10 - he’d probably try to be moral about it and idk if I’d even wanna gossip with Hector he seems like he would not care at all. Idk I think Hector wouldn’t even gossip anyway he’d be too busy caring for the horses or taking care of his family

Agamemnon 3/10 - i would be too afraid to approach him and if i told him the drama he’d either make a big deal over it or he’d like just start dissing me idk

Diomedes 8/10 - Diomedes would either be like ugh I don’t give a shit about these shitty ass people or he’d be laughing his ass off and dissing everyone and then just like giving good intel and reactions and everything and he would know all the drama too cuz of Odysseus

Menelaus 7/10 - i feel like you would go to Menelaus with the gossip and then Menelaus would just laugh at it with you but not offer any intel or anything spicy so for that he gets downgraded but he would give good reactions to things so that’s why he’s boosted a bit

Helen 5/10 - back in the Sparta days she would be so great to talk to cuz everyone would tell her everything if she asked but in the trojan war days I feel like she would just be very depressed about life so idk if she’d want to gossip or if she’d know any gossip at all and plus nobody would tell her anything so

Yeah hahaha that’s it

[itsmewahoo]

started playing Urban Myth Dissolution Center! it has me hooked! visuals are amazing and the music is fantastic!

[chuluoyi]

“show some respect to the farspace fleet’s colonel.”

main story — homecoming wings (chapter 3)