#ehliena reads comics

[ehliena]

Gotta appreciate that the writers gave Cass this.

She's usually the least likely to have lines or speak which shows how terrible this was for her.

[ehliena]

Ok here's the thing though, when they started out as the Super Sons, Damian was 13, meaning he had 3 years of heroing experience and a lifetime of training, has died and come back to life, while Jon was 10 and just got introduced to heroing and was still learning his powers. So Damian, being Dami, thinks of Jon as a mentee because he DOES have more experience than Jon at that time.

Over the course of the Super Sons comics, and continuity, they grow up and Damian learns to be friends and sees Jon as his BEST friend but still teases Jon because that's what friends do. You can see this in the Trinity comics with Lizzie Prince. Or in DCeased where they're just 1 year apart in age.

After Jon was aged up in the mainline continuity, they're still friends and Jon values Damian's advice (like when he asked Damian's opinion before he joined the Legion or when he talked to Damian when Clark revealed his identity). As for Damian, he also stands by Jon (see Dark Crisis), and basically believes in Jon Kent.

Tl;dr: Their reaction to each other depend on what point of Dami and Jon's relationship you're basing your fics in, because like most relationships they evolved.

Jon isn’t Damian’s sidekick, they’re equals!

Just a reminder to any new Superson fans out there that Jon is just as important as Damian and it’s wrong when writers try to belittle Jon down to just being a sidekick to Damian when they’re equals. They’re both the supersons. Jon isn’t just Damian’s comedic relief. Jon’s a hero to! They both share an important role. One shouldn’t just serve the other. It should be equal! Jon isn’t a helpless little sheep that Damian has to take care of. They take care of each other and I’d appreciate if you guys would consider this when writing. By spreading the idea that Damian is just here to protect Jon and Jon can’t fend for himself you’re spreading misinformation about the character which is bad.

Then suddenly we have a whole sub section of the community believing in a lie.

[ehliena]

Gotta love that what brought Bruce to his senses in his "ideal world" was the image of his real family.

To those who don't think Bruce considers Babs and Steph family, there they are. They might not be his kids, but they're still family.

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I love how Damian’s reaction to something that looks like Jon not sure if it's Jon is to throw things at him.

From Super Sons

To when Jon came back after being aged up.

I wish Damian would just throw himself at Jon.

[ehliena]

Vampire King Dick Grayson: I just wanted one of my brothers to join me. Is that so much to ask?

But also does this:

Maybe don't beat them to death first Dick.

[ehliena]

Of course Batman of all people would have an alien starfish with powerful psychic powers as a son.

Still peeved that the Death Metal event didn't revive Alfred, but Jarro makes up for it a bit.

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That wonderful moment when you see an outfit much like you had when you were a child and wonder if it was really that bad?

And someone confirms it

Dick the pixie boots were a Choice.

[ehliena]

I just love how Tim knows something's up because

Supportive dad!Bruce would never.

He'd be all judgy about your choices and warn you against romances with villains, but it's never about their physical attributes.

[ehliena]

Ok but in the alternate timeline that Booster made by saving Bruce's parents (Batman 46-47, The Gift), Bruce might be happy with his parents and Alfred but...

The boys.

Dick is Batman??? Like where did he even get the money for the training and all the gadgets?

More believable. He could have filed for a loan and all (or borrowed mobster money). But Jason brushing off the accidental kid deaths from the tazer? How far have you fallen?

This one is believable. Tim as an engineer makes sense since he's very smart and would have been valedictorian and gone to college if not for his Robin sideline. BUT I don't think he'd stick around the hell hole that Gotham is.

Poor Duke. Got Jokered.

The Justice League died bc they had no strategist. Selina is a serial killer who can only meow.

But

Damian never existed bc Bruce never went on his training montage and never met Talia.

[ehliena]

Tim and Steph, Cass and Kon... they just swapped partners to end up with timkon and steph x cass.

[ehliena]

People commenting on Jason looking like Bruce and canon just does this

Left to right: Jason, Damian, Bruce, Duke, Dick.

Jason, Damian, and Bruce all have the same hair. And Damian was pestering Jason like a little brother and teasing him about going bald

Rich boy Bruce eating the burger with a fork and knife in the next page.

[ehliena]

So... I know that The Boy Wonder isn't quite in-continuity but....

They have a child. Idk if it's biological or adopted or they're just looking after it, but they have a child that they're looking after and no it's not a Robin.

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I'm not gonna try to math Dick's age when he started Nightwing anymore. Bc in the Teen Titans issue where he visits Jason's grave, he said he was Robin for almost 12 years. Given that he lost his parents at 9, he would have still been Robin at 20-21. But he moved out at 18 and "quit" at that time which led to Jason being Robin at 13 then died at 15.

Making Tim at most 3 years old when he saw Dick at the circus.

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WHY aren't we talking more about Batman: Urban Legends and the whole Cheer arc with Bruce and Jason?

Long story short, cheer is a new drug in Gotham that makes people hallucinate about them being happy. Jason and Bruce work the case. There are flashbacks to Death in the Family when Jason dies. Jason's attitude gets him kidnapped and Bruce saves him only to get kidnapped in his place. They both get hit with the gas version of the drug and what do they see? FAMILY.

Jason was welcomed home by a Bruce who had hung up the cowl after Joker died. Having him be surrounded by the batfam.

He breaks out of the hallucination out of concern for Bruce. He came prepared and has the whole family come in as back up.

Bruce saw himself killing Joker for Jason, and having the rest of the Batfam (minus Duke for some reason) smiling and welcoming Jason home.

And ofc let's not forget the invitation to family dinner at the end of it.

Basically this story arc was a very Jason and Bruce family bonding thing that the two needed.

Plus Jason saying he wanted Robin batarangs and getting them.

And Jason not wanting to be Robin, but thinking about being called Batboy.

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Dick is really doing the whole big brother thing to Tim huh.

I wasn't even aware Tim had a girlfriend named Ariana.

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When your 5th dimension imp isn't imp shaped but speaks the truth.

Bart was replaced. I like Ace, but DC making Wally West black and then retconning it to make is seem like Ace was meant to be a new character altogether?

Tim was replaced, but he's still there. New alias and all. Hell even Jason called him the boring one in Task Force Z.

Conner (poor sweet boy) was replaced and forgotten.