#e2!westallen

[shrinkthisviolet]

got any headcanons on what Earth-2 Bart and Nora are like? :)

Ooh well tbh, I hc that E2 Westallen actually have the twins, Dawn and Don! Same actors ofc (I love Jessica Parker Kennedy and Jordan Fisher as Westallen’s kids so very much), but different names, and twins rather than siblings with an age difference. Doppelgängers of E-Prime Bart & Nora, in fact

They’re a bit of a handful, and Iris is the first to jokingly compare them to “little tornados”. The name sticks, becoming one of their endearments for the twins (who then call themselves the “Tornado Twins” later). Their surname is also, ofc, “West-Allen”

Dawn is ofc the more rational, thoughtful one, while Don is the more impulsive one. More than once, Dawn rolls her eyes at her “whirlwind brother” (and very pointedly ignores her own reckless actions at times…but worry not, Don’s her twin brother and thus makes it a point to tease her right back)

Dawn opts to go into journalism, surprising everyone (since ofc Iris is a police officer on this Earth, not a journalist). Don takes after his dad but pursues research instead of becoming a CSI

They cross the multiversal barrier…sort of by accident 😂 I don’t remember if the Cosmic Treadmill is capable of that, but if not, something else happens to catapult them onto Earth-Prime. They meet their other-Earth parents…and doppelgängers, who are strangely not twins and also named Nora and Bart (they tease the latter for his name, and Bart ofc takes it in stride). This leads eventually to E2 Westallen coming to Earth-Prime too, and it’s a joyous reunion 🥰 they didn’t know that the people on E2 were reborn with memories intact, so it’s a welcome surprise

Bart&Nora and the Tornado Twins, naturally, are fast friends after that day. It doesn’t take them long to figure out a way to keep in touch and visit (with a little help from their Uncle Cisco) 🥰

[vexic929]

E2 WestAllen would be the cutest new parents tho, listen-

[talkingtea]

I’m so sad we never saw e2 wa again

That is sad. We had to see 87 versions of Wells, they could have found a way to being E2 Westallen back.

[icedteaandoldlace]

Putting together my own list ranking couples from The Flash, but my defining criteria for what exactly counts as a "couple from The Flash" is a bit complicated. Like, Carla and Thomas don't count, but Harrison and Tess do; the McCullochs don't count, but the DeVoes do; Ralph and Izzy don't count, but Bart and Avery do; Mirror Master and Top aren't relevant enough characters for their relationship to count, but Amunet Black and Booster Gold are; Killerstorm and E2 Westallen aren't counted because I think of them as just different flavors of Snowstorm and E1 Westallen, but Jay and Joan get their own entry separate from Henry and Nora. Don't ask why, I can't explain it, they just do. Also, I feel like Millie Foss and her boyfriend shouldn't count, but I kinda want to add Millie's dads to the list, but they're both in the exact same category so I don't know what to do about them? But none of them are even real people in the Flashverse, so maybe they should just stay off the list. Also, I'm doing canon couples only, but I feel like Hartley and Thawne are canon enough to go on the list? But Thawne and Iris aren't, so. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Anyways, I have 33 couples so far. Idk if I'm gonna call it complete now, or try to scrounge up enough couples to make it 35 or 40.

[kitkatt0430]

2, 7, 14, 23 and 27 from salty ask please

2.) Are there any popular fandom OTPs you only BroTP?

KillerVibe, aka Cisco/Caitlin. I do get why it's a popular ship for those two, but I just can't. Their platonic love for each other is so lovely and I think I happened upon them right as I was feeling a bit burnt out on the 'men and women can't be just friends' trope. So these two being bffs and never a hint of anything else no matter how much they clearly loved each other?

Beautiful. Why would I want anything else for them?

Colette/Lloyd from Tales of Symphonia (which was just re-released on the latest consoles, if you haven't played it before and are looking for a new game to play... pick this game up, it's so good!!!!) - it's not enough to turn me off a fic for there to be Colette/Lloyd going on but I just... read them as having a sibling relationship. There's nothing really romantic about their interactions - honestly the only person who really says anything shippy about them is Genis. And Lloyd sounds like an exasperated older brother telling Genis to shut it when he does. Like... Colette is in many ways Lloyd's person - he does love her and he pays closer attention to her than the others do because he knows she's got a bad habit of not admitting when something is wrong. I just don't read what's there as romantic.

7.) Is there anything you used to like but can’t stand now?

Olicity. Oliver and Felicity had some really cute ship teasing going on in the early seasons. But when they actually acted on it... I can't really say they brought out the best in each other. Felicity struggled to trust Oliver but would paper over that with complaints about Oliver doing the same to her. But Oliver's issues were, at least, born out of ptsd and a lack of mental health self care. With Felicity's character, it just seemed like the writers were Flanderizing her to some degree and her character suffered a lot. Most irritatingly, Oliver grew further away from his comic book self instead of closer as was initially promised. I think their lowest point was hijacking the Westallen wedding, where Felicity made someone else's big day about her and Oliver just... went with it. But she also made a scene at the rehearsal when she'd thought Oliver was re-proposing to her and he wasn't. It was very uncomfortable to watch.

They were a lot better at dealing with other people without each other, but... *waves hands in a resigned fashion* together they were just kind of obnoxious in the end.

14.) Unpopular opinion about your fandom?

I guess that depends on the part of the fandom.

Eobard Thawne was massively mishandled post S2. He should have remained a posthumus character. All his interactions with Barry's future should have been in Eobard's past. Either with Barry traveling to the past to interact with EoWells or Mattobard showing up from points in his timeline that predated killing Nora Allen. S2 set that up really nicely, but unfortunately there was no follow through and they went in a different direction.

We'll never know for certain that Iris chose Barry because she was truly in love with him and not because everyone was saying it was her destiny. Even their E2 counterparts were married. If everyone tells you that something you aren't sure you want is the best thing for you ever and you'd be foolish to not do that thing then... if you do what you've been told by everyone in your life, is it actually because you want to? Or because you think you're supposed to? The show did, finally, sort of kind of not really acknowledge this. But... S9 when they've been married since S4 was... not the time to do that.

In S3 Future Barry should have been the one with the facial scars and Savitar with the ridiculous Emo!hair.

I... actually really enjoy Zoom coming off S1 with all the parallels that Team Flash is so oblivious too. It's only because of Savitar (and not to forget the Rival and Trajectory) that I feel like the show got overloaded with too many evil speedsters in the first three seasons. There were five - that was about three too many. (That said, Zoom probably should have been the S3 villain with S2 centered on the Rogues. Give the team some breathing room after dealing with Eobard.)

23.) Unpopular character you love?

Eobard Thawne. I will complain about him being overused and misused all day if prompted, but there's a reason why I gravitate to him as a lot as the main villain in my own writing. S1 Eobard on the Flash in particular is just such a fascinating and compelling villain. And Matt's take on him over in S2 of Legends is really great. His exasperation with his co-villains makes them all such fun.

Julian Albert. He was very unlucky in love, falling for Caitlin who clearly just... was not interested in return. And very unfortunate to have whatever was going on with Savitar and 'Alchemy'. But he gave Barry a much needed coworker at the CCPD. (Barry cannot be the only CSI in the entire CCPD. He just. Cannot. But it certainly seems that way sometimes, doesn't it?) If they'd followed through with making the not-Caitlin-not-Frost character in S4 the way S3 seemed to clearly intend, then perhaps Julian might have become the new team medic? Alas, we just get a single brief mention of him in S4 and not even a proper send off for him.

27.) Least shippable character?

Hmmm... Bart since I just haven't seen enough episodes with him to get a good read for his personality at all. And since most of the characters I have seen him interact with are either his parents, his grandparents, his honorary grandfather (Jay Garrick), or members of Team Flash who are presumably honorary aunts and uncles... who would I even ship him with? Certainly not Godspeed.

Sherlock and Joan from Elementary both read as different identities under the arospec umbrella that while I ship them as a QPR together, shipping either of them romantically with anyone - including each other - just feels like it'd make them out of character. They say they love each other in canon without it being automatically romantic. (big deal to me!!!!) So they're equally least shippable to me on that show. And it bewilders me that people do ship them romantically. (Did we not watch the same show? Did people not see how aro they are and how their friendship defies amatonormativity? *heavy sigh*)

[backtothestart02bts]

Fic idea:

E2!WA’s first kiss - after months as co-workers and borderline friends, Iris decides to embrace the feelings she’s been denying to herself, press CSI Allen to a wall in a back hallway and kiss him on the lips, their friendship and work relationship be damned.

[habibialkaysani]

where is your ring? people should know that you are a taken man.

[david-singh-mf]

this is how this scene went right

[backtothestart02]

am I the only one who thinks that earth-2 westallen characters are characters who arent just for 1-2 episodes and would actually make another appearance like snart's character? sighs I love and miss them so much

Yeah…I feel like E2!WA had a specific purpose in the s2 eps & they fulfilled it. I def wouldn’t mind seeing them again though.

[eoiris]

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[shrinkthisviolet]

Talk Shop Tuesday: Do you have an episode you've been especially excited to add a Morgan to?

YESSSS I love this question!! Here’s some off the top of my head:

1x17 (Barry tries to bench Morgan because of [redacted for spoilers], but Morgan ofc doesn’t listen because Iris and Henry are both in danger and Barry can’t focus on both of them. Results in some tension between them too, esp on Barry’s end (and tbh I get why))

1x19 (I’ve discussed why here :D ✨Bates-induced angst/whump✨)

1x23 (the Morgan vs Eowells confrontation in the finale…oooh it’s gonna be SO GOOD)

2x13-2x14 (I’ve been more and more tempted lately to have Morgan tag along to rescue Jesse, and!! I’m so excited!! Especially because she and E2 Barry would hit it off, and that’s so fun to think about)

Not a specific episode count, but…Morgan & Jesse’s roommates arc. I know it’s post-2x16, but beyond that, the details are currently fuzzy 😅

2x16 (the Trajectory episode!! Still nailing down some details, but I’m excited 💞 Eliza survives this episode ofc, and she even gets to chew Tina out a little. And Morgan shows her first big sister compassion 🥺 also also, a little backstory modification for Eliza regarding how she got her powers, sticking closer to the comics, and no split personality (and I’ve mentioned before that like the comics, she’s a WOC in my AU!))

2x17 (Barry travels back to 1x11!! So excited to write him interacting with s1 Team Flash…and especially s1 Morgan. Oh the dramatic irony. Oh the fury he’d feel, and the helplessness—the red flags are neon signs to him now, and it’s pissing him off that he can’t act on his impulse to protect her from Eowells. But Barry also knows that as unhinged as Eowells is…he’ll do anything to save/protect Morgan (for selfish reasons ofc, but still). And Morgan happens to be in danger back home…)

2x18 (the episode where Barry almost catches Zoom, but then Zoom gets Barry to give up his speed…hmm I see some ✨interesting✨ potential here)

2x20 (Barry dying (sorta)?? Morgan having to watch?? Morgan getting pissed at Harry, but also at herself because she and Barry were fighting for a little while before this and never got to resolve things?? And the catharsis is gonna be so sweet and intense too, y’all aren’t ready 🥰)

2x22 (Morgan does something that Barry cherishes forever 💞 also…someone’s powers are sparked 👀)

s3 (in general. I have a whole grand plan for how I’m rewriting s3…and especially how I’m rewriting Savitar. And his dynamic with Morgan…I’m so excited to write it :D)

s4, Crisis X, I forget the episode number (so…listen, I still have to figure out what fixes I’m making to this disaster of a Crisis (Stein won’t be dying, but that’s all I’m sure of rn). What I do know, though, is that Barry and Morgan, and Wally and Iris, will have a brother-sister dance at the Westallen wedding (Wallinda will probably dance at least once there too), and it’ll be great 🥰 and possibly a Morgan and Jesse power swap that happens an episode prior and lasts throughout this crossover, though I still have to iron out those details 😅)

5x18 (this is the s5 backstory episode and…really this is just my way of saying I have a storyline planned out for this future version of Morgan that I’m very excited to share 👀 tho it’ll be revealed in a different way than the show. Events of s5 will be shuffled around a bit)

s6 Crisis (will involve Thawne ofc, and parts of the og 2024 Crisis. It’ll be a fusion of sorts. May also involve the return of someone unexpected…👀 and it’ll also be…quite the emotional rollercoaster for poor Morgan. Also, this is roughly where the AU’s finale is gonna be, so ofc I’m excited for this!)

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[vexic929]

thinking about E2 WestAllen again <3333

[talkingtea]

People are fan casting Z and Tom Holland for a live remake of that Atlantis cartoon movie.

I remember people wanting grant and candice in it if it was ever made because of E2 westallen. Since we'll probably never see G & C work together again what are your thoughts?

Once upon a time Grant and Candice were like the perfect fancast for those roles, now not so much. We wouldn’t necessarily pick Zendaya and Tom for it either though.

[deputy-ajay-ghale]

If the writers didn’t fuck up Black Siren’s storyline of her being Cayden’s henchwoman on Arrow (glad to have Katie back, but BS is her own villain who deserves to wreck shit sans being ordered around by the guy who punched the woman who organized his escape) this season, we could’ve had her doing her own version of Flash season 2 where she brings an army of villainous doppelgängers (excluding the dead ones) from all over the multiverse EXCEPT FOR EARTH X to Earth 1 for the crossover.

Whether or not she crashes the WestAllen wedding is unknown bc A) E2!Laurel could be petty and do it bc love means nothing to her or B) crash the rehearsal dinner to take out everyone and make a snarky comment that at least Iris won’t get blood on her pretty white dress.

WE COULD’VE HAD TOMMY COME BACK AS ONE OF THE GOOD DOPPELGÄNGERS AND AFTER E2!OLIVER DIED AND E2!LAUREL WENT ALL BLACK SIREN HE BECAME A VIGILANTE TO STOP HER AND BRING HER BACK TO THE LIGHT. WE COULD HAVE MORE BS BACKSTORY.

EVIL KARA COULD’VE BEEN SUPERWOMAN.

EVIL CURTIS IS MISTER TERRIBLE.

EVIL RENE IS MAD DOG.

EVIL FELICITY COULD BE OVERLORD.

EVIL THEA IS RED ARROW, SHE FINALLY GETS THE CODENAME SHE WANTED.

I DON’T KNOW FUCKING EVIL RIP JUST GOES BY MICHAEL.

SINGH 10/10 BEING FREAKED OUT BY TWO SETS OF WESTALLEN AND THEN MEETING HIS GANGSTER DOPPELGÄNGER.

RETURN OF GEEKY BARRY AND COP IRIS.

MORE GOOD DOPPELGÄNGERS.

I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO BS OR TOMMY BUT WE CAN GO REDEMPTION ROUTE, LAUREL STAYS EVIL, IT’S ALL GOOD, ANY OPTION IS GOOD.

CROSSOVER ENDS WITH E2!WESTALLEN WATCHING E1!WESTALLEN GET MARRIED. CISCO BREACHES THEM ALL TO STAR CITY SO OLIVER CAN PERFORM THE LEGAL WEDDING WITHIN HIS CITY’S LIMITS. E2!WESTALLEN QUIETLY WHISPER THIS WEDDING IS ALMOST AS GOOD AS THEIRS. FELICITY quietly PROPOSES TO OLIVER AFTER THE CEREMONY. I LOVE THAT IMPULSIVE GIRL BUT THIS IS ABOUT WESTALLEN, NO DOUBLE WEDDING WHEN OLIVER IS DOING THE CEREMONY.

E2!BARRY DEDICATES A SONG TO E1!WESTALLEN AND THE CROSSOVER ENDS WITH EVERYONE JUST LOOKING HAPPY, DANCING, DRINKING, CHARACTERS INTERACTING FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IT’S CUTE AND FUN.

CLARISSA AND LILY BRING RONNIE STEIN TO THE RECEPTION, ALEX GETS TO HOLD THE BABY AND SHE LOVES IT, SHE KNOWS SHE’LL GET HER OWN LITTLE FAMILY. SARA IS AT HER SIDE BEING SUPPORTIVE AS FUCK.

MARTIN STEIN IS ALIVE AND TALKING TO JOE AND WELLS ABOUT HOW DAUGHTERS GROW UP SO FAST.

[valeriemperez]

westallen week: day five favorite westallen version bart & iris