#dyeus

[looking-at-the-deiwos]

Dyḗus Pətḗr

or as I write it, Dyéus Patér. Also Dyḗus ph₂tḗr

Dyéus is the god of the Sky. The blue, bright sky of day, daylight and clouds are his natural dominion. He also fulfills the role of a Father and is the Leader of the whole pantheon (my own UPG is that he leads the déiwōs not like a king but like a father).

Dyéus is also connected to the concept of the Ártus or Hártus (with a strong h like the ch in loch). The Ártus is the universal law that underlies the cosmos, the order and beauty of it that makes life possible. Dyéus, then, upholds the Ártus and represents the concept of justice but in a cosmic and natural way (justice as in the laws of society are the dominion of another déiwos). In the trifunctional view of Proto Indo-european society, he fulfills the role of the priest-king. He's a patron of priests and the idea of doing rituals in respectful ways.

The first part of his name, Dyéus, derives from déiwos, which is the generic term for a god. So in a way he is THE god. The second part of his name, Patér, means father. Thus, seeing him as your father in the sky is totally valid (traditional even ;)!

In english his name literally means "father daylight-sky-god"

He seems to have had a connection to oaths, coming from his connection with the natural law of the Ártus.

The sun (which has its own déiwos) is sometimes referred to as "the eye of Dyéus"

Dyéus also has other names like Olyópətēr, which means All-Father, and Mitrós, which is associated with a role he had as a double deity with another god that we will see later)

Offerings

Taken from here

Feathers of either eagles or of your local highest flying birds

Depictions or imagery of clouds

Depictions or imagery of oxen

Depictions or imagery of eagles

Depictions or imagery related to fatherhood

Golden beads

Devotional acts

Mostly UPG

Cloud watching

Wearing blue

Learning about different types of clouds

Collecting feathers

Climbing a hill or mountain

Doing things related to fatherhood or leadership

Associations

Taken from here and here

Oxen

Mountain tops

The open sky

Clouds as his herd

Eagles

Feathers of high flying birds

Eye

Gold threads

Obelisk (white)

Alder

Thursday

January

Descendants in later pantheons

The deities of the Proto Indo-European (PIE) pantheon are reconstructed based on the cognates (similar names, myths and such) between later deities in different pantheons of indo-european peoples (Greek, Roman, Germanic, Nordic, Vedic, Iranian, Celtic, Slavic, Baltic, among others). As these people spread out they took their gods with them which got reshaped through generations and the evolution of language.

Dyéus is the most securely reconstructed deity of the proto indo-europeans. Here are some of his most famous descendants or versions in later pantheons:

Zeus (Greek)

Jupiter (Roman)

Tyr (Nordic)

Tiwaz (Germanic)

Diēvas (Lithuanian)

Dyaus Pitar (Vedic)

The Dagda (Celtic)

Mitra (Vedic and Iranian)

Finally, here's his wikipedia article

[castilestateofmind]

While the modern world seeks progress in the ephemeral, in Tradition, that which does not pass, the eternal truths of existence reveal themselves, transcending the fleeting illusions of our age.

[pia-fantastic]

Okay so Mesperyian isn't the only historic god people just made up in modern times- actually there's a whole pantheon of Gods Linguists and Comparative Mythologists made up, and will refer to as if they are an actual gods with records of people worshiping them!

The idea of a "Proto-Indo-European"(PIE) pantheon with defined gods, with their own myths- is in itself a myth!- created to explain the development of the religion in PIE speaking peoples.

A couple examples of gods made up by these Mythologists and Linguists are Dyḗus ph₂tḗr- the archetypical sky father of the daytime sky, Dʰéǵʰōm- the archetypical earth mother goddess, and the daughter of Dyēus, h₂éwsōs- the archetypical goddess of the dawn.

The names of these gods look so strange because linguists made them up, working back from a variety of names of gods worshiped by various early indo-european speaking peoples- Greek, Vedic, Iranian, Slavic, Anatolian, Thracian, Norse... And we can pretty confidently say these words are at least very similar to what some ancestral group of PIE speaking people used to refer to their gods with.

But the part where it get's really silly is that Comparative Mythologists took these names and connected them to motifs of found throughout most of Indo-European Mythology- claiming that there were Ancient Historical Myths depicting these specific gods acting out specific versions of these stories out!

The problem with this is that Mythologists will compare actual documented Myths with these theoretical Myths, as if Dyēus or Dégōm were actual documented historical Mythologic figures with a long documented History of worship.

The problem is these gods didn't have any believers before the 19th century. The only people who believe in them are those who use them for the purposes of understanding the development of mythology.

So Dyēus can't be used as a comparative Proto-Indo-European god figure to the Mycenaean Zeus or Vedic Dyaus- but rather as an Archetype of the type of god they are- the "Sky Father".

We simply can't assume the modern Myth of Dyēus existed in Pre-history, rather that a god like him probably existed in early traditions of Proto-Indo-European speakers.

I think the Mythology of Mesperyian- now that she is accepted as a tumblr born deity- is less problematic to the study of Myths, than the pervasiveness of these shadow gods made by Comparative Mythologists. She has a place as being a unique Cultural and Spiritual entity deriving from Modern conceptions of Mycenaean Greek Mythology and Tumblr culture.

If the Comparative Mythologists are able to recognize that Dyēus and Dégōm are similar fabrications, then they will learn that their study of Myths needs Myths to understand itself.

Mesperyian is awesome and I love her- because she is the Mythological offspring of Modern feelings Ostracization who are uncomfortable with their appearance amongst young people- generally teen girls- on tumblr and their love for Greek Mythology, and the Chthonic gods- especially Hades and Persephone.

Keep being weird- Keep loving and playing with Mythology! We have so much to learn and experience through the retelling and experimenting with these stories, and the figures and ideas they embody!

Remember when Tumblr just invented a Greek god

[postcard-from-the-past]

Romanesque church of Bourg Saint-Sauveur, Île d'Yeu island, Poitou region of western France

French vintage postcard

[real-is-gone]

well

i'm Tired. really Tired. rain is lovely but... hm. i think i Like them but... hm.

abby has been Lingering on my mind again, too often. oh, and i'm seeing dan Again, so... thats fun. only a Matter Of Time till i'm down on my knees once more, Hm? and i've almost got 30 days since the last time... i can't be doing this.

i did what i could to Purge Them from my life. i deleted mine and abbys Chats, blocked her socials, Ignored dan, spitefully said "Fuck You Aktuma" but... it still happens. is there something Wrong with me? something Very, Incredibly, Deeply Wrong? maybe i've done this on purpose to myself. maybe, Deep Down, i believe i deserve this Pain. then again, i've gone Limerant (recently learned that term... it was Spooky figuring that out) over this before, maybe it just Hasnt Left.

i looked over it earlier- the first two suggestions i saw for Getting Over an lo was turning to Religion and starting Meditation... Wowie. the exact reason im Like this in the First Place.

a part of me wants to Feel like that Again, though. it was Pain but it was Bliss. i felt like i had a purpose, like i Belonged to something, like i wasnt useless for Once In My Life. just Thinking about abby and dan and all i was doing for Our Lord made me Feel so many Things. i Want that again.

of course, it is past Nine, maybe i'm just Overthinking. the night does Things to me. ill sleep on it and come back to it in the morning. we'll see.

[jezzzebel]

Hey hi hello I’d love to know more about the Zeus you worship compared to how he is portrayed in myths (if you are willing to share!)

I got a few asks regarding Zeus in my inbox, so take this as a reply to all of them :")

I worshipped Zeus for a while before becoming a slavic pagan. And i really feel like I am connected to his fatherly aspect the most.

In myths, you may not see Zeus' fatherly aspect a lot. But in fact, when you look into history and etymology blablabla.. you will see that Zeus is connected to the Proto Indo European god Dyeus Pater. Aka Sky Father. And at that time i was really nerdy about the P.I.E pantheon of gods 😭😂 so i kinda incorporated that aspect of Dyeus Pater into Zeus, and adapted it.

But enough about that! What i wanted to say is, i remember Zeus being very protective, fatherly etc!

So that's the aspect of Zeus i wish more people saw... The kind, overprotective, strong and fatherly aspect. If people just gave him a chance instead of being judgemental, they would most likely see it! <3

[noosphe-re]

Etymology of ‘adios’ and ‘adieu’

adios (interj.)

1837, American English, from Spanish adios, from phrase a dios vos acomiendo "I commend you to God;" the French form is adieu (q.v.).

adieu (interj.)

late 14c., adewe, from Old French a Dieu, a Deu, shortened from phrases such as a dieu (vous) commant "I commend (you) to God," from a "to" (see ad-) + dieu "God," from Latin deum, accusative of deus "god" (from PIE *deiwos "god" (from root *dyeu- "to shine").

Originally it was said to the party left (farewell was to the party setting forth), but in English it came to be used as a general parting salutation. As a noun, "expression of kind wishes upon departure," late 14c. Compare the native parting salutation good-bye, a contraction of God be with ye.

*dyeu-

Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to shine," in derivatives "sky, heaven, god."

It forms all or part of: adieu; adios; adjourn; Asmodeus; circadian; deific; deify; deism; deity; deodand; deus ex machina; deva; dial; diary; Diana; Dianthus; diet (n.2) "assembly;" Dioscuri; Dis; dismal; diurnal; diva; Dives; divine; joss; journal; journalist; journey; Jove; jovial; Julia; Julius; July; Jupiter; meridian; Midi; per diem; psychedelic; quotidian; sojourn; Tuesday; Zeus.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit deva "god" (literally "shining one"); diva "by day;" Avestan dava- "spirit, demon;" Greek delos "clear;" Latin dies "day," deus "god;" Welsh diw, Breton deiz "day;" Armenian tiw "day;" Lithuanian dievas "god," diena "day;" Old Church Slavonic dini, Polish dzień, Russian den "day;" Old Norse tivar "gods;" Old English Tig, genitive Tiwes, name of a god.

—Etymonline

[zeherili-ankhein]

Ykw I have a feeling that Zeus wouldn't vibe with Indra much

He'd instead.... Vibe with Dyaus

I mean cmon even their names stemmed from a common ancestor (Dyeus Omg why does it sound like their ship name) so I can imagine Zeus seeing Dyaus at a distance and like bodyslamming him going "MY LONG LOST BROTHERRRRR" while Dyaus is all like "What the- OH MY DAYS IT'S ZEUS" (no like these two are actually linguistically and culturally related not even kidding)

We NEED a brotherly reunion. Meanwhile Indra just.... Third wheels OR WAIT..... Since he looks relatively way younger than both of em.... Zeus and Dyaus co-parent and him like their little baby brother idk ☠️

IKRRRRRR

I mean yeah they are friends but Zeus and Indra are a lot different to be bestiesss... And he doesn't like froggos :(

LMAO YEAH I just imagine a big cloud like thingy body slamming another big cloud thingy lol 😭

Also maybe Zues is more sibling with Dyaus than his own siblings?? Why do I feel like he's that hyper twin while Dyaus is the calmer collected one....

I MEAN YEAHHH Indra has spend a great time big brothering.... Even he needs to be younger brother-ed once or twice in a while...

He'd still try to go “I'm not a babyy!!” tho-

[hellsite-yano]

you should play The End of Dyeus. It's like link to the past in first person with no tutorials and a very tightly designed world that perfectly guides first-time players into exploration and discovery. Kinda like a much simpler version of Tunic.

ok

[amaiguri]

OC in 15

@anyablackwood tagged me with this BEFORE my Life Events TM but I am HERE now I am doing it. I love you. Thank you for always tagging me. You're so cool! Good luck with your big rewrites and stuff!

Rules: Give up to 15 quotes from your OC that best describe their personality!

I'm going to do Nesa because I need more gorgeous women to tell me what to do with my life and I'm manifesting that for my characters.

Hello, little one, did you miss me already?

You’re so cute when you’re all nervous like this…

You have such silly little notions about what you “must” do... I think you’re just afraid of yourself.

Well… I don’t know if it’s Eris or Dyeus, but I keep running into hot girls everywhere.

But the first war criminal to be this cute!

I had both feared and hoped from the beginning that he was using her — and I thought it would simple enough to use her better. But sadly, it wasn’t.

Really, what other outcome was there to trying to seduce a thousand-year-old Demon child?

If I were feeling terribly sad and betrayed, I suppose I would want my very sweet boyfriend to buy me flowers and live eel to make me feel better.

What? I just saved your life. I should get some sort of reward.

I am Inquisition property. I can’t leave… but if Zal becomes Inquisitor General, then he can relinquish me.

That’s your “I’m working” voice. You’re not fine.

Just tell me, little one…

And that… isn’t dangerous at all? Ingesting a God and all?

Really, you don’t need to lie to ME, of all people, Zal…

You have such a beautiful smile these days — you’re doing very well. But normal people cuddle with their loved ones for comfort, Zalathiel.

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If she were in anime, she'd hit you with that Onee-san voice :3

Let's hit @anoelleart and @maiemorrae and @reaperofcrows and @spideronthesun and @cee-griceto pass the tag on :D

[coinandcandle]

Tyr Deity Guide

Who is Tyr?

Tyr, or Týr, is a Norse god and member of the Aesir associated with justice, the law, and the formalities of war. He is also the guardian of oaths, treaties, and contracts. In interpretatio romana he is equated to the Roman god of war, Mars. His most well-known role is in the story Gylfaginning where he loses his arm. To some, it is this story that has earned Tyr the title of the bravest Norse god.

Parents and Siblings

Hymir (according to the poetic edda)

Hrod

Odin (according to Sturluson)

If he’s the son of Odin then his siblings (half-siblings) include:

Thor

Baldur

Váli

Vidarr

Heimdall

Hermod

Bragi

Hodr

Lovers or Partners

There is reference of a wife in Lokesenna but no name given.

Children

There is reference of a son in Lokesenna but no name given.

Epithets

The one-handed/armed god

Thingsus (*Þingsaz 'thing-god')

Feeder of the wolf/Fosterer of the Wolf

Notes

Tyr’s most popular story, Gylfaginning, tells of the deal he makes with Fenrir. Only Tyr was brave enough to approach Fenrir in order to feed him. This created a kinship between the two.

The gods tricked Fenrir by telling him that the various chains presented were testaments to his strength, and they congratulated him with cheers when he broke through them. Eventually, they presented the impossible chains made by the dwarves. Suspecting trickery, Fenrir demanded that, as a sign of good faith, one of the gods place their hand in his mouth as the chains were placed on him. Tyr stepped up to this task. As soon as Fenrir’s suspicions were verified and he realized he couldn’t break free, he bit off Tyr’s arm.

It was said that the gods laughed at the trapped wolf, except for Tyr.

Tuesday comes from Týsdagr, or “Týr’s Day”.

The name “Tyr” comes from Old Norse Týr which means “a god” or “the god”. Old Norse  Týr, Old English Tiw, Old High German *Ziu, Gothic Tyz, Proto-Germanic *Tiwaz, “god” (Orel, Vladimir. 2003. A Handbook of Germanic Etymology. p. 408.)

Tyr is not the only god involved in war, Thor and Odin are also known as gods of war, though they reigned over three different aspects of war. Tyr is the law and justice, Odin is wisdom, and Thor is more brute force.

Tyr’s name is the namesake for the Tiwaz rune, ᛏ, representing “t”.

During Ragnarök, Tyr’s death was supposed to be caused by the wolf Garmr whom he would kill at the same time.

Tyr may be linked to the Proto-Indo-European deity *Dyeus the god of the daytime sky as well as a deity of justice, though nothing links Tyr to the sky in mythology.

Tyr is said to have a grandmother with nine hundred heads.

Modern Deity Work

Many of these correspondences are influenced by their associations with Tuesday and Mars (the planet). You don’t have to agree with these and you’re free to form your own correspondences as these are just suggestions!

Correspondences

Rocks/Stones/Crystals/Metals Black sardonyx, Jasper, Amethyst, Bloodstone, Iron, Garnet, Ruby

Herbs/Plants Valerian, Thistle, Juniper, Nettle, Laurel, Mustard seed

Animals Wolf

Sign - Tiwaz rune - Sword

Offerings and Acts of Devotion

Practice or learn about the law

Practice bravery and challenge yourself

Donate or volunteer to help disabled veterans

Study a martial art

Work out and improve your fitness

Any of the items listed in the correspondence section

Alcohol

Meat

Bread

Honey

References and Further Reading

Tyr - Mythopedia

Gylfaginning by Snori Sturluson (via Sacred-texts)

Tyr - Wikipedia

Tyr - norse-mythology

Tyr - World History Encyclopedia

Tyr - Encyclopedia Britannica

Ways to Worship Tyr - tarotbee

Tyr - Norse Mythology for Smart People

[castilestateofmind]

"Tradition, as I understands it, it is not the past, but rather that which does not pass, and always returns under different guises".

-Dominique Venner.

[thewitcheslibrary]

Kök Tengri - Mythology and information

In Old Turkic, Tengri signifies God or Sky. Tengri, also known as Gök God or Kök Tengri, is the ultimate spirit of the sky, according to Tengricism. The Orkhon Inscriptions, where Tengri is the earliest deciphered term, give early proof of the significance of this notion.

Tengri, the great sky god, is the most revered Turkish divinity. While the majority of Turkish history has been polytheistic, Tengriism has existed as a monotheistic religion for millennia. Tengri, also known as Kök Tengri or Gok Tengri, is the first primordial deity and creator god. We don't know what he looks like, but he's all-powerful and fair. Later beliefs of the deity, no likely inspired by more contemporary philosophies, saw him as the force of good in opposition to Erlik's evil.

History-

Tengri was the Göktürks' national god, also known as the "god of Turks" (Türük Tängrisi). Tengri's mandate established the Göktürk khans' authority. These monarchs were widely considered as Tengri's sons, representing him on Earth. Tengrikut, kutluġ, and kutalmysh were titles given to monarchs who were believed to have gained kut, a spiritual energy provided by Tengri.

Prior to foreign intrusions, the Turkic idea of tengri was viewed as the heaven or the will that controlled the heavens, most likely a force. This resulted in the notion of a personal being. Initially, when Turkic people took over other religions, the term tengri became the name of a (personal) deity or "higher being"

Engri was the primary deity worshipped by the ruling elite of Central Asian steppe peoples from the sixth to ninth centuries (Turkic peoples, Mongols, and Hungarians). It lost significance when the Uighuric kagans declared Manichaeism the state religion in the eighth century. The Huns and early Bulgars spread Tengri religion over Eastern Europe.

Engri is thought to be the supreme god who created everything. In addition to the heavenly deity, they had smaller divinities (Alps) who served Tengri's objectives. Gök Tanrı was the father of the sun (Koyash) and moon (Ay Tanrı), also known as Umay, Erlik, and occasionally Ülgen.

Mythology-

Tengri was the most important deity in the Turkic pantheon, in charge of the celestial realm. Tengri is said to be related to the Indo-European sky deity *Dyeus, and the organisation of the reconstructed Proto-Indo-European religion is closer to that of the early Turks than to the religion of any Near Eastern or Mediterranean nation. In Christian Turkish, Tengri refers to Jesus' father, who is known as "Tengri Oghli" (Son of God) and "Mshikha Tengri" (Messiah God). Tengri is likened to both Allah and Khuda. Apart from foreign religious influences, as far as is known today, the original Turkish understanding of Tengri was "heaven" or a spirit governing in heaven. This spirit was most likely conceived as a power, similar to "mana" in contemporary ethnology.

The most important current evidence of Tengri worship is contained in the Old Turkic Orkhon inscriptions from the early eighth century. These inscriptions, written in the so-called Orkhon script, provide information about the Turks' legendary beginnings. The inscription dedicated to Kul Tigin includes the following paragraphs (in the translation supplied by the Language Committee of the Ministry of Culture and Information of the Republic of Kazakhstan): "When the blue sky [Tengri] above and the brown earth below were created, between them a human being was created." My forefathers, Bumin Kagan and Istemi Kagan, ruled over humanity. They controlled the people according to Turkish rules, led them, and prevailed" (face 1, line 1); "Tengri causes death. The Old Turkic phrase "Öd Teŋri yasar kisi oγlu qop ölgeli törürmis" (face 2, line 9) and "You passed away (lit.: 'went flying') until Tengri gives you life again" (face 2, line 14) refer to the creation of humans with the intention of death. The ancient Turkic people believed that Khagans ruled by Tengri's will, as stated in the Orkhon inscriptions: "I, Tengri-like and Tengri-born Turk Bilge Kaghan, succeeded to the throne at this time" (Old Turkic: Teŋiriteg Teŋiride bolmuš Türük Bilge Qaγan bü ödüke olurtum).

Tengri, according to one Turkic story, is a clean, white goose who always hovers over an unending stretch of water, representing time. Ak Ana ("White Mother") screams out to him "Create" beneath the ocean. To alleviate his loneliness, Tengri produces Er Kishi, who is not as pure or white as Tengri, and together they build the universe. Er Kishi transforms into a demonic figure who attempts to deceive and entice others into its darkness. Tengri adopts the name Tengri Ülgen and withdraws into Heaven, where he attempts to guide humans through sacred animals he sends among them. The Ak Tengris inhabit the fifth level of Heaven. Shaman priests who want to achieve Tengri Ülgen never get beyond this stage, where they communicate their aspirations to the divine guides. Returns to Earth or to the human level occur on a goose-shaped vehicle.

What he's associated with/his symbols-

 the sun, the moon, the top of yurts, the wolf, and the deer. The wolf and the deer are the common ancestors of most of the populations that participate in the Tengri religion.

[postcard-from-the-past]

Port of L'Île-d'Yeu, Poitou region of France

French vintage postcard

[real-is-gone]

every day im less and less sure that ill be Ok. that ill be Free.

[covenawhite66]

Dyeus- Sky Father

Dheghom- Earth Mother

Perkwunos- Lightning bolt God

Neptonos- Ocean, Water, Sea God

Suhul- Sun God

Mehnot- Moon

Pushan- Nature

Hausos- Dawn Goddess

The divine twins

God of the Underworld

Beings of Fate:

The giant serpent: