#don't know if I like it better than epic?

[taliesin-the-bored]

Tag game: tag nine people you’d like to know better.

Tagged by: @oneshoulderangel (Thank you for tagging me!)

Last song: At the moment, I have "Losing Your Memory" by Alan Star stuck in my head, which I suppose makes it my current song, not my last song. Hm. I get songs stuck in my head very easily, but the last one I had there for a significant amount of time was a mashup of different language versions of "Les Rois du Monde" for about a week. "Lehetsz Király", the Magyar version, is probably my favorite of them. It's worth a listen.

Currently watching: Normally, the answer would be "random mostly terrible old movies/shows" or "nothing much", but I currently have a hyperfixation on the musical Roméo et Juliette and have been watching it in multiple languages. (Thus, the song).

Three ships: This is hard. Maybe as a result of being on the ace and aro spectrums, I'm more likely to care about which characters are interacting than whether it's romantic or platonic. Here goes:

Kedivere/Bedikay. It can be romantic, platonic, or queerplatonic, but whichever way, I'm here for it. I probably spend too much time thinking about how in Cullwch and Olwen, when Cai gets mad at Arthur and marches out, Bedwyr stays behind, keeps acting like nothing's happened, and isn't the one to avenge Cai's death. The feeling of betrayal on both sides has a lot of unexplored potential. And the version where Bedivere dies and Kay fights to bring his body back safely while mortally wounded himself... And the version where Bedivere survives Camlann and Kay isn't said to fight in it, so they might be left together after their world has fallen apart...

Platonically or queerplatonically, Galahad and the Grail Heroine. I really like the tragic Grail Quest friendships, but I like theirs most, maybe because there's something weird and otherworldly about them both. I like it when characters are strange and endearing and doomed by the narrative.

Ever since reading John Matthews' retelling, which I read before the original, I've had a soft spot for Caradoc and Guinier. The Story of Caradoc is very disturbing, and I have some major qualms with Caradoc over a detail Matthews cut out, but all the same, there's a reason these two have the best track record with magical fidelity tests. Each of them would go to the ends of the earth for the other, and together, they're stronger than any curse.

Favorite Color: Blue, particularly royal blue and some teals.

Currently consuming: Black licorice with chocolate.

First ship: This is a hard one, since through elementary and most of middle school, I tended to go along with whatever I thought the author's intentions were and was more likely to unship something. The first non-endgame ship I got invested in was Sonya/Nikolai in War and Peace. I didn't like Nikolai, but Sonya did, and she was my favorite character, so I wanted her to be happy. The first non-canon couple I thought was meant to be together was also in War and Peace: Marya Bolkonskaya and Julie Karagina. My eighth grade self did not think their letters could be interpreted platonically. I still don't.

Last movie: If the musical doesn't count, the last movie I watched was Quest for Camelot, which was awful. Though not Robot Monster-level bad, Robot Monster has an elegance to its simplicity which Quest for Camelot lacks.

Currently working on: Various fics, most of them Arthuriana or CotRK-related (I am woefully behind on the Badfic Bingo), and (theoretically) an epic-style poem, though I haven't gotten much of it written for quite a while now.

Tagging: @gawrkin, @emperorcandy, @wildbasil, @gorewound, @knightsofsomethingorother, @ladyminaofcamelot, @tasosotaso, @amashelle, @gingersnaptaff (I have no idea who's been tagged so far, apart from the people on @oneshoulderangel's post, so I apologize for any multi-tags)

[xxgothchatonxx]

Here's my non-spoiler thoughts on Wicked Part One.

This was a grand, epic musical fantasy spectacle in all the right ways. As a standalone film, it was an absolute marvel to witness in cinemas and reminded me why I love musical films in the first place. And as an adaptation of one of my favourite musicals of all time... you fucking did it, Jon. You brought Wicked to the big-screen and you absolutely nailed it.

The cast was pitch-perfect across the board. I have so much to say about our beautiful leading ladies but I'll just say for now that Cynthia and Ariana took such good care of Elphaba and Galinda.

And the music! Oh sweet Oz, it was BEAUTIFUL! Trust me, the singing sounds so much better in the film than it does in the trailers. And the choreography was amazing- that ensemble cast was putting in 110%, it was fantastic.

I cried three times - at the start, at the Ozdust scene (EXCUSE YOU, MR. SCHWARTZ! YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID, SIR!), and just near the end. Which, well, I'm an emotional gal, but for a story like Wicked, I really wanted to have this reaction. And I got it.

I am so excited to see Part Two next year. Speaking of which, while I had a lot of worries about it being split into two films, I am so glad they decided to do that. Cos I can't imagine the whole story being crammed into one film. It works on stage, but this is film. The pacing is slower but it works. There's more room to breathe in the film. Again, not knocking the pace of the stage version but I don't think that would work here.

Look, I had a wonderful time, and I can't wait to see it again.

I give it 5 out of 5 hair toss-tosses.

[avelera]

I will confess that I have started watching Arcane (knowing absolutely nothing about the source material whatsoever) after seeing all your flailing on my dash. I am currently about halfway through season 1; how braced should my body be?

I am SORRY it took me so long to reespond to this but I literally saw this message and froze because HOW do I even respond to this without spoilers??

It is the most tightly written, masterful writing I've ever seen pretty much ever in television. BECAUSE the music AND animation is all controlled in-house, you as a viewer don't need to worry you're crazy for thinking that tiny micro-expression meant something. IT DOES. It took them a week to animate every 4 seconds so yeah, if you think your ship is exchanging a heartfelt look, it is actually happening, there's no accidental moments here and it's SO rewarding to close viewers.

Imma be honest, Arcane S1 was lovely the first time I watched it, but the moment I became a bonkers screaming evangelist for it was when I REWATCHED S1 and realized just how tightly written it is. Every single moment is written to build towards the final scene of S1 and it is so tightly done that you can pretty much freeze-frame anywhere and scream at the screen because if THIS MOMENT had gone differently, the final scene wouldn't have happened. And it's just. Incredible as a structure-focused writer like me to witness so as a brilliant writer yourself, I will say, S1 is worth a re-watch just from a Structure Writer's angle.

S2 has been even more nutty lately but until this Saturday I don't know what the complete work will look like so I'm swiftly losing my mind and chewing the dry wall while I wait. So far, it's incredibly epic and I have so much faith in these writers that even as I create crazy theories, I don't mind if they're wrong, because I trust them so implicitly that whatever they come up with will be BETTER than what I did. But, if I am right about my theory, I will probably be catatonic for a week because of Emotions.

So... tl;dr.... braced???

[my-lovely-hyperfixation]

I finished listening to it :3 These are the summaries of each song based on how I heard it:

Overture — idk uhm… kinda blanked out during this one 😅

Chorale — intros of the peoples

A Head Without a Heart — Aphrodite vs Athena; who should we choose and who should we piss off?

Straight Ahead — Full Speed Ahead: Paris Addition; Cassandra, shut the fuck up, the gods won’t get mad at me, you’re crazy😒; Nothings gonna stop me cuz I’m heading straight ahead!!!

What Could Go Wrong? — what could go wrong?; seems even the gods~ must be smiling at me :D; EVERYTHING COULD GO WRONG; PARIS COME DOWN; PARIS!!!!!

Perfect Stranger — oops, Paris seems like he’s gonna die; who lives, who dies?; he’s just a man; he’s~ some perfect stranger~ 🤭; Paris meets Helen and they fall in love while Paris is fucking dying 🥰

A Long Time Coming — Helen’s marriage is shit, it’s loveless, I don’t like it 😔; it’s been a long time since I fell in love

Business — I hear we share a common enemy, known as Troy; I never forget about… Agamemnon~; nothing but business; its business 😒

The Leader — roll the dice!! I’m nice 😏; WHO CARES HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Paris in Court — GET OUT; so… who is this, Agamemnon?

Any Fool Could See — IM NOT APHRODITE; GET OFF YOUR KNEES; PARIS, LISTEN!; we must leave, before it’s too late; BRING ME HIS HEAD

Thief in the Night — Kidnapped and caged by a bloody-handed bandit… from TROOOOOOYYYY 😡😡😡; she was my light ☺️, but some thief in the night has taken her and left me blind 😡; the Trojans will RUE THE DAY THEY STOLE MY WIFE 😡😡😡😡

Thoughts of Love — we were meant to be, Helen~; STOP THIS! PARIS I BEG YOU; YOU CAN’T TRUST THE GODS; IM A MURDERER, A TRAITOR!

Trust in Your Heart — trust in your heart~ to show~ the way~ to go; I’m sorry… I can’t guarantee happy endings 😔

Welcome Home — Helen, look! It’s Troy!; welcome home!!; back home so soon~ Odysseus wishes he could get home that fast; oh by the gods… 😒; Paris calls Helen a goddess again; YOU TOOK THEIR QUEEN, PARIS?!?!?!? YOU FUCKING IDIOT, TAKE HER BACK!; no, never, I love her

Hell or High Water — she holds my heart now~ please don’t make me take her back 🥺🥺🥺; YOU LED THE ENEMY RIGHT TO US; BUT I LOVE HER 😣😖

No Turning Back — we don’t stand a chance; there must be a thousand ships!; BUT THEY ARE MEN, THEY CAN BLEED AND DIE; there’s no turning back 😠😠😠😤😤😤

For Better Or Worse — I love you…~ no matter what they say~; Helen and Paris in love 🥰

10 Years On — just instrumental; really nice though

The Greek Camp — DAMN IMMEDIATELY CALLING A SLAVE GIRL A WHORE DAMMMN; ACHILLES PUT THE DAMN SWORD AWAY; is our greatest warrior simpering over a WHORE?; THAT’S IT, IM OUT! FUCK YALL

What Price a Friend — Agamemnon, stop your bitching 😒; Achilles… the blood-stained killer; idk what happened, I zoned out and this guy started talking about murder when I came back 0-0

Love Has Power — through the PASSION and ANGER; LOOOOOOVE HAS POWER; why are all the things that bring you pleasure also bring you pain, wtf man 😔

Two Titans — are you ready to DIE, Hector?; epic music and sword clashing; now I’ve got you!; AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH; you murdering bastard 😡; don’t let him treat my brother with such detain~; yes… yES… YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

The Beggar — what do you want? 😒; ugh, go away; if blood were a currency, you’d be a rich man today!!; you’re no… beggar… 😑; he’s just a stranger~ he is not threat to me; he is nothing… just a stranger; please… let him live…

Ulysses Prayer — I’ve never believed in MAGIC~!; Athena… if you’re really there~ answer this mortal’s prayer…; banger instrumentals; EACH AND EVERY LIVING TROJAN WILL RUE~ THIS DAY!!! RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH; the goddess Athena has shown her hand~; Athena, do your worst. I don’t care~

A Horse With No Rider — this horse with no rider… shall carry us all, Agamemnon; YES! This is a prize that they’ll never resist!; how would you like to spend some time in a horse?; hurry up and get drunk.

Inside Outside — hoho; whose idea was this??; now you’re on the inside~ like inside… of the inside!; waitin to get inside!; we’re scared half to death! 😊; yeah it sounds like suicide!; the accents are so good omg 😭

The Balance Shifts — when will they learn?; you sound saaaaad little princess~; let’s see what happens… when we set it on fire 😈🔥🔥; WE’VE WON!!!; look! They got us a gift! It’s so nice; just what is this thing?; what thing?; THAT thing; OHHHH, the horsey! It’s an offering, of course! :3; I REJECT THE GODS!!! I CHALLENGE THEM!! RAHHH

Oh Paris — oh Paris…; your love was too high a price to pay…; oh Paris… open your eyes…; you should’ve known better 😔; YOU SHOULD’VE KNOWN BETTER!!

Finale — “THE GODS MUST BE… ANGRY WITH ME!”; you THINK?!; WE HAVE NO WHERE TO RUN!; we can’t stay here…; GO!; OWWW—; PARIS!!! GET UP!! YOU CAN’T DIE!!! PARIS NOOOO!!!; I never guarantee… happy endings… I love you…; THERE HE IS!!!; blood and revenge 😈😈; the pride… of a fool; I CAN’T EVEN FIND THE WORDS TO CONSOLE HER; HELEN!; if only I… knew…; sleep now…; my prince… my strength… my love……. my love………… love…; oh, Paris…; aw no, Paris… :(

JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT PARIS THE MUSICAL

LISTENING TO IT WHILE I WAIT FOR THE EPIC LIVESTREAM

[gotstabbedbyapen]

I honestly don't really like how Odysseus defeated Poseidon. Maybe with explanations from Jay, time, and the last saga releasing I'll come around to it, but yeah. I feel like it would have been so much more logical to see Odysseus try to be as ruthless as possible, while being cunning, but ultimately failing because it's POSEIDON, and then Zeus comes in and is like "that's enough, let the Greek go" or something. Because he's not only the king, but it would redeem him from that mess in God Games.

Fans who dislike criticism, please stay away from this post because I will not hesitate to speak my mind.

I'm glad to see others still have faith in Epic, but I'm sorry to say that I don't hope as much anymore. I did try after God Games but it only let me down. And I don't think any amount of explaining and marinating time can make it any better.

Epic the Vengeance Saga not only nerf down Poseidon in the most ridiculous way possible when he was an undoubtedly powerful god-king who was revered as the Biggest Villain throughout the musical, it also broke its own establishment that the gods always have a power leverage over the humans. Odysseus was tip-toeing around all of them, even with the seemingly friendly ones like Aeolus and Hermes, because he's literally one wrong move away from getting killed by them.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If Odysseus needed a power boost from the moly just to corner Circe, he had no chance with Poseidon when he had nothing but a sword and a wind bag. No amount of pure rage and wife loving can help him charge at the King of the Sea (in his own domain even!) and leave unscathed, he'll be lucky Poseidon just drown him faster the second time. That cheap Gary Stu fight traded good storytelling for some dramatic effect and ruined it for me.

Any other route for the Odysseus VS Poseidon showdown would be significantly better. Like you said, Odysseus can try to fight or just defend himself against Poseidon for as long as he could, then Zeus and the other Olympians can intervene to save him. And yeah, Zeus deserve a redemption and an apology for ruining his image and establishment in the musical (his attack is also super OOC)

If there's an Epic adaptation on a different media, I seriously hope they'll rewrite Six Hundred Strike completely. Anything but that godawful mess.

[sillyfudgemonkeys]

Still wild to me that the Avatar team saw a guy write a love story between a stick and a monkey and were like "This is the guy who we need to write Rangshi and Yangvik" and then he ended up making two of the best couples in all of the Avatar-verse TT0TT

[articskele]

Thinking about....... Sun Onceler.........

[wawamouse]

so you write Oz like it’s high concept novel quality I just wanted to say that first off. Fontana should give you the rights tbh

curious as to if you see the potential to ever write Miguel/Alonzo as romantic or mutual? the way you write them is so rawly intriguing and ambiguous the way it is dgmw! just that I find it interesting to consider them in all different configurations w romance+the Consequences thereof as one of many options

Hahah thank you <3

Idk, tbh I’ve never thought of writing Miguel/Alonzo straight up… I know I have like 1 fic tagged as them but I should probably take that tag off the fic bc it’s not really there like that/I scaled back on some of stuff I had planned anyway :S… It’s kinda funny because I remember watching Oz Youtube clips before I’d watched the show (like, back in middle school maybe, when I was a dumb little homo desperate to find queer rep in media blah blah blah). Back then lowkey highkey being very intrigued by Torquemada, but then I watched the actual show and I was like oh boo… He’s barely in it.

That’s all to say, I find him entertaining as a character and I think it’d be interesting to try and tackle a character study of him (of course, I’d be making up a lot 🥴) but I don’t think my default interpretation of his character is really a thing that makes it possible to write him in any kind of romantic relationship, you know? Based on what little we learn of him from the show, I feel like his main thing is like getting off on power imbalances, voyeurism, enmeshment—that kind of thing. Which is interesting! But yeah, no, I don’t really see romance for him. Without getting too into it, he seems more… business minded, to me? I feel like he just wants to scare the hoes and get rich, which is pretty funny of him. I think exploring some kind of dynamic between Miguel and Alonzo that I haven’t already done yet would be fun bc I tend to write Alonzo as just a creep near Miguel, unless he’s an AU version of himself… and honestly, I prefer the idea of a fun, chaotic Torquemada to the creep but it's so clear that Miguel thinks Alonzo's a creep that I guess I end up writing him that way too 🤷🏻‍♂️

Writing a fic where Alonzo turns out to be actually helpful/a tentative ally once/if Miguel is able to set boundaries/get his head on right, etc, would be interesting 🤔, but yeah, that’s about the extent of where my head’s at with them. Plot Plot, not ship stuff LOL.

(Rambled, sorry + this is probably not the answer you were looking for so sorry x2)

Tldr: I don’t think writing Miguel/Alonzo as mutual or romantic is really in the cards for me atm

[unproduciblesmackdown]

"normal" meaning "unquestionable" & the embrace of that cropping up anywhere such as an aim to be on the unquestionable side of a Normal / Weird binary, thus surely being a comfortable effortless indelible version of Good that stems from "just be normal"

ppl out here like freud 2.0 where well they had the sufficiently normal Nuclear Household family(tm) experience so they're sufficiently normal for it, versus the weirdos who had the Questionable family times so as to end up with Issues, surely unlike all those who are Family Issue free, i.e. normal, no question. like how also Going To School is Normal, so of course there's that idea that anyone who didn't go to school normal style or did but Did That Wrong are the people made Weirder with Issues. & when what's Normal is what's Good is what's Unquestionable it's like why would i need to question it when it's so normal? why wouldn't some rando asshole nepo man be Meritous & Good at business when he's so Successful at it. speaks for itself, same as Your role of being treated entirely differently does, this can't be questioned, blame it on your own failures; again how the supposedly "questionable" experiences (unlike other ones, which need no Legitimate questioning) are pathologized like. people talking about disabled ppl's lacking "social skills" being this meaningful Driver of ableism just like poor people's lacking "financial literacy" being that darn cause of classism & resource extraction, the already Questioned vulnerable [you're just doing it wrong / failing] people are the cause of their own mistreatment, Normal people who are so socially & financially successful are helpless, this victim blaming (can't question it. Normal) sure totally doesn't speak to abuse being "normal" as well

which, good thing abuse totally isn't Normal i.e. in the territory of unquestionable things (with, obviously, the idea that Abuse (Real abuse, if you like) must be Exceptional in addition to, if not to Really be, "obviously" questionable) since if something can't be questioned then surely it's also How Things Were In The Beginning, Are Now, & Ever Shall Be (catholic prayer paraphasing re: god, for referential context) & there's just nothing to do but invest in & play into it For Success & resent / punish / try to eliminate disruption, like people just existing but doing it Weird, c'mon, be a better person please, obviously....meanwhile people out here approaching queerness in a way that accepts & acts according to the unquestionable normal of abuse of queerness, such that oh the "abnormality" of being queer (that is, "normal" people's abuse in the face of awareness of queerness) is unquestionable, such that Oh No, investment in that abuse now & forever world without end amen, & now punching down on the people who are just Being Weird & Disrupting this embrace of the norm: radfems invested in "all bodies will be classed as men & women & the former abuse the latter" & hate women who already disrupt this premise; pointing out ace exclusionism as terf logic just applied in the different context where queer vs nonqueer binary is neatly detected just as the gender binary is & people who already prove that & the way it's defined is not the case are the real problems, infiltrating Unquestionable (Normal) Queerness & delegitimizing it i.e. being The Cause of e.g. homophobic abuse, which will also unquestionably exist, so if we're gonna blame someone as Needing To Change it'll have to be uhhh already also affected Weird people who are ruining things, they're the Real causes of this abuse, so they're basically men, basically cis, basically straight. boooo to trans ace bi pan aro nonbinary gnc people....hardest to be binary gender "same sex" "romantic" "visible" Truly Queer couple currently holding hands in public or in front of family, & it's You Mfs who make it harder, not, yknow, the people who were already always embracing & perpetuating the abuse bolstering Normal(tm) Cishet Just Being Normal. and of course don't forget going after poly people & others disrupting / not accepting premises about Unquestionable Relationship Structures/Requirements. so not just being normal

also the beloved concept broken out that, of course, Being Normal = Being Good, b/c hello, unquestionable?? where it's like meaningless ideas that abuse is Abnormal like ":( hurt people hurt people" (inherently a framing to counter any response to [person is hurting me] that's not silent secret sympathy forever i guess. nobody's using this catchphrase to argue for Hey Quick let's all intervene to stop someone being hurt, lest they go on to hurt anyone themselves) like & yet everyone is hurt, yet not everyone is doing shit where these arguments are broken out after they're already getting away with nonsense & we're telling others to just stop complaining, while also not everyone isn't getting shit on for being "disruptive" & perchance the real hurtful problems for trying to Stop being shitted on, or just have a little more breathing room to day to day live while it happens. everyone's hurt bitch let's get you some "what's the actual patterns & context of supported power imbalance made emergently evident by whose choices & life are constrained & undermined & made smaller" like. or the expanded idea as that well all abuse comes from Being abused, i.e. the Cycle, never mind that abuse is everywhere as per its being Normal, & nobody's intervening every time it manifests despite its supposed exceptionality thus rareness & supposed indication that someone's Being abused to cause it. just gotta roll with it, wow. & pathologize being victim to it, abuser in the making, Vulnerable People are dangerous, those insulated & given more access to systemically backed power in an oh so Normal way are surely oh so Safe as well. the very rich families are all lovely havens. the abused people are treated so well & embraced & supported by all the more Normal people they encounter, certainly not Also isolated, bullied, victim blamed by these Normal friends family coworkers new partners randos in public randos who are "professionals"

but yknow uh literally just be normal lol. aaand post. and like "lol being Anti Being Normal? just like a weirdo" like yeah of course. and what, i'm gonna try to win the heart & mind of someone like "of course you have blue hair & pronouns" & convert them, as would definitely happen if only all transgenderists were Normal about it? and the perspective of "what Unquestionable Good is ever actually coming from striving to get to point at Others as Weird" involves going like "nooo i wanna see myself & be seen as Just Being Normal" instead of like having ideas / arguments about how to be considerate towards people which can be articulated in any other way & involve effort & said consideration (ft. anything able to be questioned)

[edge-oftheworld]

help i'm listening to an orchestral arrangement of holiday by green day and i can't deal with it

[basically-fabulous]

u "don't vote" motherfuckers r stupid as shit

[swordsonnet]

on the off chance anyone on here followed me for my jonmartin fake dating au, currently standing tragically unfinished at 7 out of 8 chapters: i'm still working on the last chapter! i would love to have it up this year, but unfortunately i can't make any promises, because i've started a new medication and the side effects are wreaking havoc on my mind and body. haha isn't chronic illness fun. but rest assured the fic is the beating heart under my floorboards, and i WILL finish it one day

[dootznbootz]

There's something so specifically infuriating when someone uses one of your experiences or your demographic in an argument, especially if said argument is about spreading hatred or is just so wrong. They "speak on behalf of the ___" to say such fucked shit.

"You're not thinking of the ___!"

"I literally am ___. You saying that adds nothing as you do not speak for me or for other ___. Shut up."

[theghostofwilburtheworm]

they should make an resident evil 3 remake just for me personally

[my5hiningstars]

https://www.tumblr.com/my5hiningstars/758652886714630144/music-box-asks?source=share

13) and 25) please and thank you c:

thank u!! my migraine brain misread the numbers and thought 13 was 15 so i'm doing that one too

13) a song from a musical

Not While I'm Around from Sweeney Todd

25) a song from before you were born

Joni Mitchell - Woodstock

bonus: 15) a song that's better as a cover

Teenage Dream (Acoustic) - Darren Criss (for Glee)

send me some numbers or an album to rank ✨

[wolfythewitch]

I don't go here that often but this is specifically about epic the musical. I keep seeing posts getting mad that eurylochus is willing to leave behind the men on Circe's island but then gets angry when Odysseus sacrifices 6 men to Scylla and like. That's fine?

It's not Eurylochus' fault the men get captured, and it's not a wholly selfish reason why he wants to leave.

He specifically tells Odysseus to think about the men they still have, and that's reasonable. All he knows is it's a powerful witch, and all of his men, who were also soldiers and probably good ones, didn't even stand a chance. He wouldn't have known about Hermes, or the moly. He's the second in command, he's meant to be a voice of reason, and in his eyes, going back would have been a lost cause and could've potentially lost them a captain as well

VS Scylla. Odysseus isn't passive in this one, he specifically decides to have six torches be handed out so that Scylla's heads will go for them. It's still a practical choice. It's better to control the options than have the heads go at random. But he makes that choice, that these six men who hold the torches are going to die. That's what Eurylochus is upset over. I think he would have been less upset if Odysseus let the heads go at random

It's honestly the trolley problem haha. Eurylochus does not pull the lever. Odysseus does