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okay. I have my theories on this. first off when 5sos relegate a track to extended versions it’s not usually because it’s not good (they’re often better than the album tracks tbh) but because thematically, it doesn’t fit the overall album vibe as closely. The deluxe tracks from 5sos5 are a great example of this—aside from flatline, they’re a lot more sonically diverse than the rest of the album.
my theory is that youngblood (album) went through a lot of iterations before the final version dropped. seeing as they were writing it for a lot longer than the ridiculous 2 months they spent on each calm and sgfg, they had time to polish it the way they’re doing with their sixth album now. and I think the version of the album where wywa was a single was very different to the track listing we got.
remember how ashton said once that empty wallets was meant to be a single? and how that song’s a bop, but sonically it doesn’t really fit as tightly together as the album’s 3 singles: youngblood, want you back and lie to me (it does with valentine, but I’ll get to that soon). the line from empty wallets ‘sugar-coated pain’ could be a thesis statement for the whole album. and in early days that would’ve been a fruit salad of genres the way the tracks from woke up in japan onwards are: wywa is a reggae song. best friend (2018, just in case anyone is getting it confused with 5sos5’s best friends) kinda has those vibes too. what else fits in with this vibe? monster among men, meet you there, midnight, empty wallets. potentially also moving along. want you back has some similar themes musically that tie these together to wywa and midnight but against the backdrop of a very pop song.
then you have the earlier songs they’ve written for the album: the airplane/travel themes in lie to me and wwylm ended up giving a lighter feel to the earlier/middle tracks despite their really sad content that I think really captures the whole ‘sugar-coated pain’ and I think they built on that when they wrote youngblood. narratively it’s less of a breakup song and more ‘we’re in the moment, let’s sugar-coat the pain’. they proceeded to then build the entire album around it, and somewhere along the line decided not to make it a breakup album by including songs like talk fast, better man and valentine. which I don’t know how to explain other than valentine has some of empty wallets’ vibes musically, better man has some of valentine’s vibes musically, talk fast has some of better man’s vibes, and then it circles back to moving along which has some of talk fast’s vibes and then wuij has some of moving along’s vibes as well as youngblood’s.
and this was then put on the foundation of the first three tracks, and more right in the middle, the rock protest song that could honestly go with anything—and embodies the thesis of the album and unpacks it more—when you have everything you could ever want and you’re still unsatisfied and have unmet needs. that’s sugar-coated pain when you have to try to communicate it to the rest of society. that’s understanding some of the driving force between the breakup in wywa and the secrecy in midnight. they’re put after monster among men and babylon to give that perspective, and in the full 19-track (or 18-track, the story they tell isn’t too dissimilar between target and Japan versions) then circles the story right back to youngblood and wyb and lie to me—just with more context this time.
I’m not sure how far the whole reggae breakup album idea got or how many songs they would’ve had for it, but I continue to be fascinated by how some of these same sounds then evolved and made their way into CALM in songs like wildflower and thin white lies. like were they just planning on interspersing the songs with other ones they already had (wwylm, lie to me, etc) or were there others? I find it fascinating how they cut best friend as much as they could without fully cutting it—sonically it’s a bop, lyrically it sucks, it’s very goofy and very them a bit like a 20s version of pizza. to me wywa and midnights didn’t deserve that same treatment. I think both of those songs could’ve been polished to single quality, but they weren’t, and what we hear was the version of them they thought they didn’t have to work on further.
5sos generally choose which singles to release based on their storytelling value over actual song quality and it’s one of the most frustrating things about them. as a result it’s pretty much a given that a lot of deluxe tracks are gonna be single quality but they changed their minds on the narrative somewhere along the line. It makes me really curious about what an album would look like with wywa (and empty wallets) as singles. or flatline as a single. idk. there comes a point where they just have too many good songs, and that’s a good predicament to have
Forever mystified by how Ashton said when you walk away was supposed to be a single and then the song didn't even make the regular version of the album. From single to target exclusive that will never see streaming.
#this is so long sorry anna#tbh if 5sos did what the veronicas did and just released almost everything they made they’d have like 12 albums out by now#and a lot more songs as singles
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The boys (and one very good girl) tackle the #TEETHchallenge
@Luke5SOS: I tried 🤷♀️🤘 #TEETHChallenge
I’m calling out my boy Jon @jonbonjovi unless he’s too scared
@Calum5SOS: Um... Petunia got pipes???
27 August 2019
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Luke in a friend's IG story post — Feb. 4th, 2019
#cmon boy how is the red desert gonna heal your blues if you're out there on rocky ground dressed like THAT#slip or overheat or smth#like. at least wear sneakers#but hey he's got his glasses on at least he can see
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SCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP MULTITASKING ALL AROUND 😭😭😭😭😭
#sustainability king#selling your own clothes to fans instead of having to get merch made?? awesome. don’t know how practical#i assume more than one person is gonna want each item; is he gonna get copies made or?? surely the original brands wouldn’t like that#sure he just looked at his closet and was like ‘damn I have so many things’ and then did this (reminds me of the podcast al!)
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5SOS posted on their IG story — Feb. 15th, 2020
#spent a solid moment looking at the building in the background like do I recognise this STREET?? ariel stop being stupid sydney all looks#the same. but it doesn’t!! and this is giving [redacted area] vibes. can you imagine running into them filming omg#saw this straight after an unreality post about demon possession and then remembered luke sitting on the back of his chair in the slsp bts#video. so I guess when he sits on something normally that’s when we know something is wrong bc this^ is such typical behaviour
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Michael and Ryan Hall performing if i had a choice in LA — Aug. 1st, 2025
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can you imagine 5sos singing still breathing by green day. can you imagine their little sgfg era selves singing it. because apparently it was meant to be written for them and I love billie’s voice too but I still feel robbed
#like. the first verse is obv sung by michael in my head maybe ashton does the second half idk or the second half of verse 2 (calums verse)#and luke sings the bridge in my head!! and they sing the prechorus and chorus together. it’s very them. right in theme with os/co tbh#5 seconds of summer#5sos#luke hemmings#michael clifford#calum hood#ashton irwin#green day#still breathing
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there’s a reason calum and walt whitman have never been seen in the same room
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a big australian man... i get sweaty in summer... just out here doing my best :)
#quality gifs!#don’t know how to say how quintessentially luke this is. smiley nervous tired. closeup of his jeans for some reason. his best is great!
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‘last night I lied I looked you in the eyes’ but it’s like a kid lying because they just learned how to say words and not how to make sure said words are true or that it’s a thing they should do til this morning
anyway the fuck do you mean two of them are parents now
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spotted in the wild: restaurant playing no shame

west end, brisbane
#when I tell you west end loves 5sos#so does the southside in general tbh and especially when the songs are over 5 years old#heard a restaurant in the melbourne cbd playing lie to me once but the only time I’ve heard them in sydney in the wild was slsp at uni#no shame#5 seconds of summer
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I think 5sos shows could be made even better if instead of putting together a kit they would just scatter drums all over the stage wherever the other three won’t trip over them. then ashton can drum while running around and singing too and he will have lots of fun and it’d be really entertaining to watch. and he’d find designing the stage drum layout to be like a puzzle, and it’s important for him to have enrichment
#ashton irwin#5 seconds of summer#5sos#and of course. every now and then he gets to decorate the drums with (fake) blood#as his version of the 5sauce thing from last tour
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on the record
#hello documentary that will never be accessible in australia#and atp particular parts of it have been taken out of context to create a particular caricature of Luke that I’m not sure we should#but I’d be responsible with it if I ever did get to watch it#hes just a baby there I wanna give him a hug
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Ashton posted on his IG story — Mar. 30th, 2018
#could write an analysis on the times they pop up with this So Grateful For Fans stuff but honestly it’s been a minute and I get why it’s not#healthy but sometimes I miss it. does something to our brains to see it and be like ‘me?’
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happy to pull out my own baby pictures from 24 years ago if anyone wants to know what a kid looks like with a tall blonde blue eyed aussie dad and a little southeast asian mum. my time to shine and give to the fandom or something idk
#when I say I’ve been waiting to be able to do this#and then I sat and overthought it but in the end just take the lightheartedness of the offer or scroll past it idk#still stuck on the whole ‘dad with an m name’ from November but I’m trying not to be a smartass cause this is so precious#big congrats and I hope they can chill and enjoy it despite the inevitable sleep deprivation etc!! very proud and can’t wait to see parent-#hood in more songs and just. the thoughts and everything I know I’m gonna soak up what we get and be very inspired and proud
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Calum at a friend's birthday party — Aug. 16th, 2025
#I love how we’re seeing so much of cal and shica recently#and she’s like!! I’m just gonna be besties with this dude from the band and people are gonna see it and that’s okay!#hope she had an awesome birthday
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dumb and sensitive forever
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