#do enid/wednesday/tyler have a ship name

[kybee1497]

Wenclair this

Weyler that

Wednesday has two hands and I for one think it would be very sexy of her to have a murderous Hyde boyfriend and a girliepop werewolf girlfriend

She’s small, dark and spooky with a personal record for 31 weapons on her person at any given time

He’s tall, cute and turns into a hulking murder beast in search of a new master

She’s tall (ish), bubbly and has claws sharp enough to slice through probably anything

[lady-murderess]

I gotta be honest, the past week or so really has me questioning whether I'm actually excited for season two of Wednesday or not. I haven't really been involved with the fandom for the past six months or so, but ever since I received my Monster High Wednesday doll, found my Poe Cup cosplay, and all these teasers started coming out, I've been wanting to get involved again, but at this point I'm failing to see the benefits of doing such a thing.

I'm usually never one to allow people to put me off things but this fandom is just even more of a cesspool than it was almost two years ago, I swear.

Tell me why I'm seeing people apologising for liking Tyler? STILL? Yes, I may be a Tyler fan myself but who honestly cares? Like whatever character you like and have done with it. One thing that's also bugging me is how childish the whole censoring characters names and ship names thing is. Where's the need? You're just being dramatic for literally no reason at all. Just put the name, no one is really that bothered.

And also as much as I encourage people to interact and reblog my posts, the obvious does NOT need stating. We know Wednesday and Enid are besties, it does not need repeating, it's literally canon. You're just adding to these shipping wars and frankly, I don't want to see that in my notifications especially from some Wylers... Over the past two years, I've been very fortunate to be in with some great people and not be in a position where I've been involved in or witnessed any ship drama, so why am I honestly hearing all this shit about Wyler people being toxic and doxxing people, etc.? Like where has that come from? Can we just stick to being chill, please? It's bad enough there's so much pandering, politics and really bad parasocial behaviour going on already.

I've quite honestly been sitting on this post for a couple of days now but this is honestly annoying as hell. It's just a goofy lil show, just allow people to enjoy it. Most importantly, ALLOW YOURSELF to enjoy it.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk, appreciate it. ✌️

[tylernation]

A message to the following…

The previous day was pretty hectic, so I thought I might do some explaining here.

I don't usually get angry, but when I do, its pretty ugly, which I don't like, but I can't help it if I'm provoked by some truly disgusting idiots in this fandom.

Those who know of my account know that I am Wyler fan. A Tyler Galpin fan. Someone who believes he is a tragic villain who should heal and get a redemption arc considering how much he got fucked over in life and unfairly at that too. I don’t like to trash other ships or characters belonging to that same fanbase, but it is my firm belief that some portions of the fans in general, have become really horrible, not only to our favourite character, but to fans of that character as well.

This isn't about shipping wars ok, I don't care who you ship in this show, but when you constantly denigrate a character who our side of the fanbase loves, as well as the fans of that character itself, then I (as well as others) will start biting back, and we will bite back much harder. Stick to promoting your favourite character or ship, rather than put down another character who quite a number of us actually like talking/learning about, and all this drama can be avoided.

For those who don’t know what I am referring to, yesterday, a user on Instagram commented on the latest Wednesday post about Tyler. The admin user responded in a rather negative manner to that user which the account should never have done. As the main social media account for the show, they should be impartial as well as considerate for this diverse fanbase and learn that fans of other characters other than Wednesday and Enid exist too. But that particular comment made in response, has triggered some Wenclair fanatics to go on and bully and harass that Tyler fan for no reason. That user never attacked Wenclair, or Enid in particular. So there was no reason for the following harassment whatsoever. And now they have the audacity to post on their Twitter circles and claim that they are the victims in this situation, which is truly pathetic. But this is not the first time our side of the fanbase has had to deal with these toxic individuals. Fans of the Wyler ship, or Tyler as a character, or those in favour of him getting a redemption arc, are constantly looked down, treated condescendingly, and bullied by some Wenclair fanatics on Instagram, Twitter, and here on Tumblr. And we are not the only side of the fanbase who have copped it badly from these people. Fans of Wavier / Xavier / PHW, and even Ajax / Georgie and the Enid / Ajax ship have been subjugated to such immature behaviour by these fans who attack them, mainly because they see them as threats to Wenclair,

For those angry with me and accusing me of doxxing some accounts on my last post, fine, maybe I took it a bit too far, but I truly feel that it was vital to expose the toxicity of the Wednesday fanbase that no one should have to go through. Plus, it’s not really doxxing if it’s photos of accounts that are mainly pseudonyms and fan centric accounts, and not private details such as real names etc.

[enidtendo64]

I just finished Wednesday today and I'm full on the wenclair ship!!!! so I'm glad to have seen your art just as I'm done lmao. if you read wenclair fics do you have any recommendations?

OOOOH Okay nice nice!!!

I'm so sorry this is so late but I hope you still want some recs, bc I def got some for you! I tried to keep these pretty succinct and not too many bc a lot of these are pretty long reads but these are some of my fav Wenclair fics to read and reread! I made sure to put different types/genres of fics in here too so there's a diverse list of flavors on here! Most will be complete but I'll throw in some WIPs i've been keeping an eye on!

If We Make It Through December by overnights: If you love FLUFF and Enid interacting with the Addams Fam! A wenclair STAPLE tbh, fake dating, Enid being invited to the Addams Mansion, and CHRISTMAS fic all in one! The dynamics between the Addams and Enid are always sweet, and Wednesday and Enid just teeter on that close friendship to oh, maybe it's love??? thing and it's so sweet to see. It's just very lovely and wholesome! A great execution of that 'fake dating but oops you were in love all along haha' trope!

Magus et Lupus by wigglewyrms: Ok like I had to rep one of my pals in here but in my defense this is genuinely so good and one of my favorite wenclair fics before we even became friends! It's a fun fantasy Wenclair with dialogue that's just so fun and snappy and witty! You're gonna have fun reading their conversations and then you're gonna get caught up into the world and the story! The plot is very fun and the end is a very fun payoff! I think I might have overused the word fun a lot for this fic but like that's just what this fic is--It's entertaining, it's engaging, and it makes you feel like you're having fun reading wanting to know what's next or what's this person gonna say or etc. It's a fic you read and you feel good! 100% Recommend! I even drew art for it if you're interested (which I should honestly repost on here soon)

I'd recommend their other stuff too-- Stubborn, Single Minded, and Obsessive is great if you like the slasher horror genre with a dash of Addams Family Values Lore, and their most recent one that's a WIP, When The Moon Shines Red is a very fun fic focused on Enid's werewolfisms but dangerous, with a very sweet friendship to relationship evolution between Enid and Wednesday!

i know the end by thriftedstars: If you're an angst lover like I am, you're gonna LOOOOVE this! A sort of groundhog's day type of fic, it focuses on the day of the last episode of the first season--Enid, Wednesday, Tyler, Crackstone, all that entails in that night. It's a really fun read just to know what happens next and how Enid gets out of the situation but also to see the girls' relationship grow in this terrible situation. Lots of emotion! Listen sometimes you just need the hurt for the ending to be sweeter! Recommend wholeheartedly!

curtain call by hanjisgirlfriend: on the complete opposite side of the last fic, Curtain Call is an enemies to friends to lovers Wenclair that does an amazing job of capturing that kind of high school love story kind of vibe but like also a dash of youthful nostalgia. It gives me the same vibe of like, if I was listening to the Kids album by Mac Miller--They're kids and they're friends and they're growing up and they're growing up together. I HIGHLY recommend as well, like it genuinely makes my heart lighter thinking about how sweet this is.

raven in the den, wolf in the nest by Barbara_Lazuli: So you might be familiar with the author's name--Artist, Comic maker, Writer, literally what CAN'T she do!!! This fic is another fake dating fic but a different flavor from the first one! This one really dives into both Enid and Wednesday's relationships with their mothers, as well as the building feelings they already have for each other. Their bond in this fic is nothing short of sweet and heartwarming, and I genuinely think this is one of the best fics in the tag! Just got so much substance! Also all the Addams family media references and the Loona refs-- like Barb if you read this you're a champ for making Wednesday play Sonatine and also listen to Hula Hoop and just for making this in general????? Seriously how are you so talented bro

queen of the night by heyfools: Look, a flower shop AU hits okay? And this? THIS HITS. Wednesday is an owner of a flower shop, Enid needs a job, and we know where this is going. But man the way you get to know both characters a little more--their histories, traumas, likes and dislikes and their personalities beyond "appropriately polite cowoke" (well, polite for Enid, not so much Wednesday at first) it's soooooo good! You have a journey along with the characters and you really get invested in their relationship! A great read, especially if you wanna read something like in the afternoon light with a nice lemonade maybe, or like just a very relaxing fun read!

Forged in Blood by RiseAboveTheAshes_203: Okay so this one is a HEAVY HITTER! We're getting into the big bois! It's a 100k fic about Wednesday and Enid basically dealing with the consequences of Enid becoming a blood wolf-- and bro you are seated, belted, strapped into the ride every step because PHEWWWW what a RIDE! It has really interesting lore building upon werewolf society in the show and also witchery and magic from the Addams family. And all of that is great and amazing but the real star of this is just Wednesday and Enid being Wednesday and Enid--they are DEVOTED to each other! Even if they don't quite understand the full means of it yet, and if it gets them in trouble sometimes. It's amazing to see their relationship grow and them understand what they truly mean to one another and it's a captivating love story that also happens to have fun world building for the show and amazing moments that just leave you so tense to know what happens next! I was so tuned in when this was still a WIP I remember refreshing the tag every lunch time for a while for a chapter I was HOOKED, and I'm sure you will be too!

A Kidnapping By Any Other Name by Ravenmoon33: So bear with me this is gonna be a long one; Ok! So this is the other WIP I've put in here (aside from When The Moon Shines Red) and let me tell you--this fic changed my life fr. Some TLDR lore about it tho--the version I linked above there is a revised version! They have an old version they still have up on their account and honestly I also HIGHLY recommend that version too bc it had me in bed giggling kicking my feet like ROMANCE. ROMANCE WAS MADE in these ao3 walls!!! (The flower scene???? No spoilers if you know you know but OOOOOOOOGGHHHH I would not shut up about it for WEEKS Im so sorry to my friends and my poor gf) but I also highly recommend the new version as well! If you've read the first version and are keeping up with the new version, the new things are also so good and you can tell the author is so locked in and excited with what they've added and what they've changed, I honestly recommend both;

So onto what it's actually about-- Enid is "kidnapped" by Wednesday and is "forced" to stay at her best friend's mansion for the summer. And you know what happens? LORE. So much worldbuilding on Addams family lore like it's AMAZING!!! You read about new characters the family past and what it means for Wednesday and Enid, and if that's not enough, there's also the MYSTERY aspect too because Weds and Enid will have to deep dive into that lore to figure out a problem in the present and it's so much FUN to like try to figure out how things go together! I love that aspect of both the versions so much that it's only rivaled by my immense love of how everyone's relationships are written! Enid's relationships with the other members of the Addams fam, especially Morticia, is so healing and heartwarming, and we see Wednesday's different dynamics with her family and how Enid affects her and helps her grow and you see those relationships with her family members grow because of it! And of course, the obvious, Wednesday and Enid basically having a love story for the ages cause JESUS, this is ROMANCE. Wednesday BIG FUCKING ROMANTIC Addams!!! It's amazing omg I wanna say more but I also don't bc I don't wanna spoil but I absolutely cannot rec it enough, even if it stays unfinished it will still be genuinely one of the best wenclair fics for me.

Tumultuous Waters: Wednesday Season Two by KrackenoftheDeep: So we're here at the last one. I didn't really list these fics out in specific order but I did save this specific one for last bc I genuinely think this is my favorite Wednesday fic. This is like a full ass season 2! It's a telling of how season 2 could happen, continuing from season 1 and picking up the ball the first season threw with stuff about the Morning Song cult, a deeper dive of Crackstone and Goody, more worldbuilding about the outcasts and the school, and best of all-- THE Wednesday and Enid dynamic that to me would be so fucking ideal for season 2 if Timothy Burton wasn't a COWARRD!!! /j /maybe

The growth Enid and Wednesday have in this fic, along with the exploration of the other characters, more investigations not just by Wednesday but also the other nightshade members helping and getting involved as well! You really get to feel so many things for these characters, and all of that pays off in one of the most satisfying endings for me in a fic like the author really fucking knocked this out of the park I felt like giving a standing ovation!

I genuinely don't think the Wednesday writers could like, live up to this. At least for me, it's that good. This is everything I've ever wanted for a Wednesday s2 honestly and I honestly, HONESTLY could not recommend this enough.

And after you read this, you can follow along the author's sequel to this fic, The Infinite Black Sea: Wednesday Season 3. Again, also highly recommend! A new mystery afoot!!!

I'm so sorry I didn't expect this to get super long but sometimes you just gotta give tens where tens are deserved!!! There are so many more great wenclair fics out there that deserve a reading and loving, like I know the tag can look a little scary sometimes but seriously there's some great gems there underneath all the scary stuff lol

These are just some of my personal favs, and honestly thank you to all the authors here yall are doing God's work fr!!!

[ralphy-succulent11]

(This is for fun I mean no harm please)

Wednesday ship headcannons/only gay for now

Tylorpe:

-Tyler is small soon for various reasons, xavier just doesn't like pressure on his back weirdly

-xavier tried coffee art once...he could only do a penis joke. Tyler smacked him.

-xavier won't stop drawing on Tyler's hands, it takes ages to wash off...

-Tyler is soft as anything when the Hyde isn't doing shit in his mind, xavier is dirty minded to hell so meh

Wenclair:

-Wednesday is small but big spoon, Enid becomes a ball for weds

-the addams family practically smothers Enid with family love because "finally someone in the family is dating!!" (Refers to younger gen mostly)

-Enid can and will pick weds up to prevent a murder

-Wednesday nearly killed someone for saying shit about Enid in class...the guy got into a coma.

Ajax x Eugene (idk ship name):

-both love animals alot alot and talk about them constantly

-they bond over having two mams and when their mams met it was awsome af

-ajax plays with Eugene's hair when bored, Eugene wishes he could play with ajax's sneks

-both are innocent, Eugene more so than ajax. The two also love cuddles

That's all for now

[streamdotpng]

I never got around to finishing this, so have a WIP of the Wenclair Greek War AU.

I do not fully remember what all the names meant, but Enid is Astéri (Star), Wednesday is Penthón (Mourner), Antitorpiliká (Destroyer) is either Tyler or Xavier, take your pick, Férner is Eugene (I believe meant something to the effect of "Council" or "advisor.")

Warning for murder, gore, death, mourning, anything you would expect from a war:

Astéri feels her eyes burn, weeping silently as Antitorpilikó towers over her, his well-worn shield dented by Penthón's godly spear.

"So sad, Astéri, Penthón's dearest; she must've thought, sending you out into the field, that you could win her honor back and grant your warriors safety from being chased to your fine ships, burnt in front of you as you're all slaughtered. Well—" Antitorpilikó drags his curved spear out of her chest, catching on her skin and muscles and sinew as he pulls it from her.

"—I, for one, await the moment she learns of the terrible fate I gave her dearest, and I hope she learns in front of me, just so I may see to it personally that she knows how badly you were beaten."

Astéri's last thought is a prayer to the Father of Gods and Men, a prayer that Penthón would heed her advice from before all this, all this war and the blood it spills, and set sail for their once-shared home.

The last thing she can feel is a cold breeze, and her helm being lifted off her head.

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Penthón writes bitterly, all about the war that she and Astéri are in, alongside their partners in battle. She would help them, but none stood for her when that bastard implied she should set home to the land of their fathers, all because she was small and less defined as everyone beside her.

The cowards, afraid of Prodótis and all his boasting, some king he was. She almost regrets not joining in the fight, Astéri by her side, just so she can show that she is the better fighter by far.

There's no time for that, though. She has to get back to their hut so she can prepare dinner for the night.

Astéri has been dejected as of late, pressing her face into beautiful black silk that Penthón had brought from her home, given to her by her father to take for rest, sighing deeply and ignoring all attempts at talk.

Penthón decided to bring out the sweet, honeyed wine out tonight. Perhaps that would lighten her spirits some. She's missed the other woman's insane babbles of flower fields and sunny grass.

She pushes open the door to their place of rest, and begins on cooking ox. She burns their fat before she does, pouring sweet wine in libation to all the gods there are. She should be back soon, saying she'd go speak to all the others and try to find some common ground upon which she'd find truce.

Penthón shakes her head fondly, knowing that all she'd do is offer large wealth to their foes. She's too kind for her own good; sooner or later, it'll get her hurt.

She's just about to pour wine into her golden cup, but the door swings open before she can, banging against the wall and almost making her drop the bottle of honeyed wine.

She turns a black look to the door, and at the person who threw it open.

"Férner?" 

She grabs the shaking man by the shoulders, leading him to sit at a seat. She pulls her hands back when he swings his arms around and knocks her back slightly.

The anger she feels at the rudeness is ignored when she sees the quick-flowing tears and war-torn look on his face.

"There's no time, Penthón." He swallows deeply, and she can see him blink away tears. "Godlike Astéri was killed in battle."

Penthón almost falls down in her shock, but the herald grabs her by the underarms before she can, shaking his head rapidly.

"There— there is no time to grief and mourn! Her body is still there, being fought over. If we catch up, we could take her body back and bury it here."

Penthón turns to where her chest where her things are kept. She dashes to it and lifts up the top, and feels her head spin when there's nothing there.

"Where is it?!" She screams, pressing her hand into the bottom as if somehow it'll appear from nothing. "Where is my spear, or my shield, or—"

"She took them." She hears the sob from behind her and turns.

"What?"

"She took them to pretend to be you so she could scare them off. She— they've stolen your armor from her body."

Penthón falls to the floor and wails this time, dragging her nails down her cheeks, cutting the fine skin there.

She stands up with speed and grabs Astéri's arms, cloaking herself in them.

She grabs the round shield and spear and turns to Férner.

"Come." She tosses him the sword and stares at him.

"We're bringing her back."

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Penthón flies past all her friends and fellow fighters in her chariot to the nude, bloody body of her light. All exposed and open and dead.

She ignores all the spears that rain down around her, all the screams and cries and war-cries. They hardly matter. They don't matter.

She leads the swift horses almost completely sideways to aim herself, throwing a spear at the back of the woman whose hand is almost brushing against Astéri's perfect skin.

The weapon pushes past the bronze of her armor and comes out of her collarbone, slamming up into her jaw and knocking out teeth.

She ignores all the blood and war around her and jumps off her chariot, grabbing Astéri's body and placing her delicately on the cushion of the cart. She whips two more spears at the throng before whipping the reins of her horses and puts them at speed to their hut, paying mind nor thought to the words of her allies.

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Penthón places the other woman's body on their bed, dropping to her knees and weeping into her stomach.

She weeps for so long, the next time she speaks her voice barely is able to leave her throat.

"Astéri..." she whispers, pushing golden hair off her forehead. "I'm—" she chokes again, wet-eyed and damaged. She feels unworthy to speak her perfect name, bright and burning like her tears.

“I’m so sorry. My pride, my… you were hurt, because of me.” She stands up, covered in blood of so many fallen, hers and theirs, soaked in it like hands covered in sweet wine for libation. She paces endlessly around her body, mind blank and too full all at once. She grabs her spear and begins to the door.

She’s stopped by a silken black dress, divine and perfect. Her mother’s, her mind knows.

“No.” Is all she says, pushing on Penthón’s shoulders and forcing her back into the hut, onto the other bed. “You haven’t the armor nor the spirit left to fight.”

“I don’t have the need for life anymore.” Her gaze falls past the shoulder of her mother, and lands on her love’s bloody face. “They made sure of it.”

“She will remain unavenged if you perish. What good are you then?”

“What good am I if she’s not here?”

“What?” She turns around, back to her mother, and the goddess allows it this time.

“What good am I—” she drops to her knees next to her beloved’s body. “If she’s dead?”

Her mother doesn’t move for some time. She isn’t sure. Time has no meaning without her sunshine.

Her eyes burn like flames are spreading on her face, but she can close them for a moment only before she fears those monsters will steal Astéri’s body for a second time. She’ll rip them apart with her hands if she needed. Maybe she will have to.

Her divine mother takes careful steps towards her, walking like her child is some young brat who cannot handle herself. And she’s correct. She’s lost the ability to handle herself.

“Eat, drink your wine and rest.”

Penthón turns a black glare to the goddess, nearly snarling like a wild lion at her.

“How dare you!” She turns back to staring at the corpse, petting her hair with bloody hands. “To think any of that has point now.”

Her mother, devine and strong, places a hand on her head softly, draining her of her energy.

“You will rest,” she whispers, “and when you awake, you will spear her killer through his chest.”

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When her eyes open again, it’s night, dark as death with little dots of stars in the sky. She stands up immediately, desperately searching for Astéri’s body. She looks for her like a man starved searches for sweet wine or cooked ox meat.

When she finds her, Astéri has been cloaked in beautiful black silk, granting her some kind of coverage.

Penthón takes slow, shaking steps towards her, undeserving and unworthy but so self indulgent all the same. When she reaches her, she sinks slowly to her knees and places her hands on Astéri’s face, cupping her cheeks with a care that she used to fake. She doesn’t need to now. A click behind her sounds out, but she doesn’t give it any attention.

“Commander Penthón?” Férner. She wants to vomit. “We have… we need to build her funeral pyre. To lay her soul to rest.”

Penthón turns back to him, and he looks just as messy and ruined as she likely does.

“She won’t be able to rest without her ashes being in an imperishable urn.”

Penthón carefully brushes the other woman’s hair off her forehead, cleaned by someone while she slept.

“I know.”

“Your mother—” that catches her attention. “—She gave me this, to gift to you.” He steps aside and reveals a stand of armor, bright gold and red cloth, as fine as the arms that the immortals wear.

“She said you deserve to get back in blood what they took from us. And your armor, but I imagine that’s the least of your worries.”

“It is far from the highest on my list.” She stands up and gently drags her fingertips down the armor and shield, perfect spear and sharp sword. It has a thrumming where she touches, seeming to quietly whisper for blood. They want what she does.

She turns back to Férner, and he seems shaky. Unsteady. She turns back to Astéri, and hardens her heart.

“I will not let that monster walk free with her blood on his hands.”

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-Writer Anon.

AHHH WRITER ANON ITS SO GOOOD ;-;;;

I JUST REMEMBERED, THIS IS THE WENCLAIR ACHILLES AND PATROCLUS AU?? ITS AS TRAGIC AS WHEN IT WAS FIRST MENTIONED

god its so good mate, thank you so much

[a-smol-cosplayer]

Okay here are more!! These are literally almost every ship friendly - wyler, wenclair, wavier, enid/ajax (what it their ship name?) ect plus just general friendship gang stuff :) enjoy 

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Wednesday: We have no idea how many stars there are.

Ajax: I think there are 7.

Wednesday: …No there are more than 7.

Enid: You just said we have no idea.

Wednesday: We know there are more than 7.

Enid: Well apparently you’re a liar so I’m even more convinced it’s 7.

Ajax: exactly.

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Tyler: So you're a thief.

Thing: I like to call myself a specialist in complicated acquisitions.

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Enid: Wednesday, if I was the last girl on earth would you date me?

Wednesday: (confused) If you were the last girl on earth..

Wednesday: then I wouldn't exist??

Enid (internally): Is she not interested or am I just bad at this??

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Bianca: you need a hobby.

Xavier: i have a hobby.

Bianca: staring at Wednesdays face isn’t a hobby.

Xavier: you’re right. it’s a profession and i excel at my job.

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Wednesday: You deserve a reward for putting up with me.

Enid: You are my reward. 

*meanwhile* 

Tyler: You deserve a reward for putting up with me. 

Wednesday: True, you can be a really annoying sometimes.

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Xavier: My brother says I'm a catch.

Bianca: Well, if I caught you, I'd throw you back into the ocean.

/

Wednesday: LOOK, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING ALL THE WAY OUT HERE TO SEE ME, BUT I'M KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF SOLVING A MYSTERY. CAN WE DO THIS ANOTHER TIME? 

Bianca:

Bianca: Are you seriously asking to reschedule a kidnapping right now 

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Ajax: When I was little, I wanted Spider Man powers, so I found a spider and let it bite me.

Ajax: Later that day my parents took me to a doctor and I got diagnosed with ADHD.

Ajax: For years I was afraid that getting bitten by the spider, instead of giving me super powers, had given me ADHD.

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*Tyler, wearing a blazer*

Tyler: Hey, Enid. Do you think I'm overdressed?

Enid: Depends on the activity. For a doctors appointment, yes.

Enid: If you're going to a casino, I'd add sequins.

*Tyler, returning in a tshirt and a cap*

Tyler: Too casual?

Enid: For an audience with the queen, yes.

Enid: For an evening of passing a bottle of fortified wine around a flaming trash can, you look great!

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Wednesday: Why are you on the floor?

Tyler: I'm depressed.

Wednesday: Oh.

Tyler: Also, I was stabbed. Can you call an ambulance please?

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Enid: Quick, take my hand!

Wednesday, grabbing his hand: Now what?

Enid: Nothing. I just wanted to hold hands.

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Ajax: Bro, do you lift?

Xavier: Yeah dude, how did you know?

Ajax: Because you lift my heart whenever you're around.

Xavier: Bro.

Ajax: Bro.

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Enid: Don't worry, no one else is gonna ask Wednesday out! You have all the time you need

Tyler: How do you know?

Enid: Because Wednesday is terrifying

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Enid, about Tyler: He's covered in blood again. Why is it that he's always covered in blood?  

Wednesday: Well, it looks like it's his own blood this time.  

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Bianca and Yoko: *pushing Wednesday and Enid under mistletoe*

Bianca: Oh, I guess you two are going to have to kiss now, that’ll be awkward!

Enid and Wednesday: *kissing casually*

Yoko: That was way too casual.

Bianca: Yeah…

Enid: Oh, did we forget to tell you? We’ve been dating for two months now.

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Wednesday: Everything’s fine.

Enid: Wednesday, I know your relationship with the english language is strictly casual, but you- I- *deep inhale* ALLOW ME TO TELL YOU WHAT’S NOT FINE.

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Bianca: what’s it like dating Wednesday?

Xavier: once I asked for water while she was pissed at me. she brought me a cup of ice, looked me dead in the eye and said “wait.”

Bianca: I see.

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Enid: Hey, Tyler, can you help me carry this box?

Tyler: *Carrying the box effortlessly* Nothing is heavier than the weight of my internal torment.

Enid: I’m impressed but also concerned.

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Enid: is something burning?

Ajax: just my love for you

Enid: Ajax, the toaster is on fire

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Wednesday: Don't do anything I wouldn't do.

Enid: That doesn't narrow it down.

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Xavier, to Bianca: Can you believe some people see Wednesday and aren’t immediately filled with absolute unconditional love for her?

Xavier: They don’t even get the urge to kiss her right there.

Xavier: That’s incomprehensible to me.

Bianca, drinking her third shot of whiskey: Yeah, we got it like 3 hours ago, Xavier.

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Tyler: the moon looks beautiful, doesn’t it?

Enid: hm.. but do you know what’s more beautiful?

Tyler and Enid in unison: Wednesday.

/

Yoko narrating: This is Wednesday. Wednesday loves his personal space.

Yoko: This is Enid. Enid also loves Wednesday’s personal space.

\

Wednesday: I love murder mysteries.

Tyler, trying to impress her: I've been a suspect in four murder cases!

/

Xavier: Two years ago, I married my best friend.  

Xavier: Enid and Wednesday are still mad about it, but me and Ajax were drunk and thought it was funny.

\

Wednesday: when I get murdered, can you make sure I become an unsolved case? 

Bianca: what?

Wednesday: I wanna be on buzzfeed unsolved.

Bianca: can we go back the part where you said "when I get murdered"?

/

Wednesday: What the fuck is wrong with you??  

Tyler: What? No good morning?  

Wednesday: Good morning, what the fuck is wrong with you?? 

\

Ajax: are these brownies…special?

Enid: they are

[later]

Ajax: i don't feel anything, are you sure there's weed in the brownies?

Enid: they are special because i made them with love, you little shit 

/

Wednesday: You kill people for money?!

Tyler: I can explain!

Wednesday: And all this time I’ve been doing it for free like a chump?!

\

Bianca, holding up an antique bottle: Do you think this is whiskey or perfume? 

Ajax: *Grabs and chugs the entire bottle*

Ajax:

Ajax: Definitely perfume

/

Wednesday: I'm starting to reach the point at which even I don't know if I'm sarcastic or not.

\

Enid: Don’t climb on the table! It’s unstable.

Yoko: I'm unstable too it's gonna cancel out. Pemdas.

Enid:

Enid: THAT’S NOT HOW THAT WORKS. 

/

Wednesday: i didn’t mean to offend you.. but it was a huge plus.

Xavier: isn’t your dad a literal murderer?

Wednesday: what? are you upset that my dad spent eight years looking for me while yours doesn't even know you exist?

Xavier:

Enid:

the whole room: 

\

Tyler: You use sarcasm to distance yourself from people. 

Wednesday: And yet, you’re still here.     

/

Wednesday:

Tyler:

Wednesday:

Tyler: ur talking mad shit for someone in kissing distance.

\

Enid: FLIRT BACK GODDAMNIT

Wednesday: HOW

/

Yoko: Well, if you're not at least a little bit gay for your friends, then what kind of friend are you? 

\

Enid: You need to be nicer to people.

Wednesday: I am nice.

Enid: You just threatened to stab someone.

Wednesday: And I think it was pretty nice of me to give them a warning.

/

Enid: Did it hurt when you fell- 

Tyler: From heaven? Hate to break it to you Enid but im in love with wednesday—

Enid: No, I meant when you fell down the stairs. 

Tyler: ... 

Enid: You just laid there for 15 minutes

\

Wednesday: If I'm extra sarcastic with you it probably means I'm flirting with you or you really annoy me and I can't handle your crap... have fun figuring out which one.  

Tyler:…

Xavier:…

Enid:…

/

Wednesday: I went B and E without you.

Thing, offended: You went to a bed and breakfast without me?

Wednesday: No, B and E--breaking and entering.

Thing, even more offended: WITHOUT ME?!

\

Xavier, throwing a coin into a fountain: I wish for world peace.

Wednesday, glaring as they throw one in too: I wish for world war.

/

Wednesday: Can you perform under pressure?

Xavier: No but I could take a stab at ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’

\

Enid: You call yourself my friend, but where were you when my meme only had four likes?

Tyler: Making four accounts.

Enid, tearing up: Really...?

/

*at a restaurant* 

Enid: I’ll have the chef’s salad 

Ajax: *whispering* Babe that’s so rude, just order your own 

\

Bianca: Ah shit, I forgot.

Xavier: Forgot what?

Bianca: How do you expect me to answer that?

/

Eugene: *visibly upset* 

Enid: Eugene, what happened? I haven't seen you like this since you found out candyland wasn't an actual country.

\

Wednesday: Tyler, keep an eye on Xavier today. He’s going to say something to the wrong person and get punched.

Tyler: Sure, I’d love to see Xavier get punched.

Wednesday: Try again.

Tyler: I will stop Xavier from getting punched.

/

Enid: This is such a bad idea.

Tyler: Then why are you coming along?

Enid: One of us needs to be able to talk the cops out of arresting us when this inevitably goes wrong.

\

Bianca: What scares you the most?

Enid: Ghost.

Tyler: Loosing Wednesday.

Wednesday: The unstoppable marching of time that is slowly guiding us all towards an inevitable death.

Xavier:

Bianca:

Enid:

Ajax: Wednesday. I'm scared of Wednesday.

/

Wednesday tending to Tylers scratches: how would you rate your pain?

Tyler: zero stars. Would NOT recommend.

\

Wednesday: my mother taught me to think before i act.

Wednesday: …so if i smack the shit out of you, rest assured that i thought about it and am confident in my decision.

/

Xavier: Wednesday loves me. She just doesnt care for my general happiness or self-esteem.

\

Ajax: thank you, nature, for pre-slicing oranges for us. You didnt have to and you did anyway and that was cool of you

/

Wednesday: …enid, what are you doing?

Enid, standing on the couch: i live here too, y’know. i can stand wherever i want, thank you very much.

Wednesday:

Enid:

Wednesday:

Wednesday *sighing*: where’s the spider?

Enid: under the table.

\

Tyler: Why are you late?

Wednesday: A technical error occurred, causing an unexpectedly long bout of unconsciousness.

Tyler: You overslept?

Wednesday: I overslept.

/

Wednesday: *angrily presses Tyler against a wall* WHO IS YOUR MASTER?!

Tyler: ...

Tyler: Are we about to kiss-

\

[ After directly disobeying the principles orders ]

Wednesday: Anyone else have the weird urge to lecture themselves?

Wednesday, as Weems: Ms Addams, what do you think you are doing?

Weems, appearing from behind Wednesday: Ms Addams, what do you think you are doing?

Wednesday: I conjured her.

/

Wednesday: were you dropped on your head as a child? 

Tyler: bold of you to assume I was even held

Wednesday: 

Tyler: 

Enid: 

Enid: Tyler, we’ve talked about this 

\\

Mkay thats it!! Y’all are eating these up and I enjoy making them so if u want more pls ask I will do so with the slightest excuse. 

[hislittleraincloud]

French is my second language. (Basic French pet names within.)

When I was ten years old, I was forced to learn French, Italian, and German (mostly French, because we were going to live in France, but just travel to Italy and Germany...at the same time, I picked up some Romanian as well, since I loved vampires/the real Dracula at the time). I retained spoken French and Italian, but my spoken German and Romanian suck, and I'm much better at Spanish (which is my father's first language...I was just never formally taught it, and had to pick it up on my own after we came back from France since it's what my grandmother spoke). I am literate in several other languages, but my strengths are French, Spanish, and Italian (including "Italian" from the Renaissance Era...which is another thing that bugs the crap out of me re: the show, because modern Italian on an espresso machine owner's manual does not equal the Florentine dialect that Machiavelli wrote in, so that was a piece of dialogue hit me weird...probably a Me Problem).

The languages are much different than English, especially French. It's not just about how much Netflix Wednesday hates being compared to her parents. It's about the language itself that's kind of important if you want to insist that your Wednesday use French (or other non-English language) pet names for Enid.

In my other post about this, I made one small error in judgment: AB Sheriff Galpin is a little cultured since he was married to a Frenchwoman, so he would know some French. However, I still don't think Wednesday would pull any French terms of endearment on him, for that very reason...she wouldn't to be compared to Francoise and she wouldn't want to trigger Donovan like that. IF Donovan were to relax his trauma around Francoise, he would definitely be calling Wednesday "ma crevette"...i.e. "my little munchkin" (literally means shrimp ��...he might just do so in some way yet, I'm thinkin' about it).

But before I get into the French, y'all need to be strongly reminded of just how much Wednesday despises the way her parents relate to each other romantically: She hates it SO MUCH that her hatred for it caused birds to die. Birds that look like they're supposed to be mourning doves.

The backs of their tails look like mourning dove tails:

Though their undersides don't, but I'm going to chalk it up to lazy CGI and lazy detailing, like the extremely, extremely lazy prop masters/set dressers who made the damnably inaccurate articles on Sheriff Galpin's cork board. All the articles and information in them were terribly inaccurate to what we were told on screen.

Regardless, birds DIED. That's how strong her hatred for how they behave romantically is.

But if you must insist on having Wednesday behave like her parents, at least get the language correct.

French is a heavily gendered language. I'm not even going to get into the current war over gender neutral French for the nbs, because that's not what this is about. Wenclair is a lesbian couple, and we are definitely dealing with females 99.9% of the time here w/the ship.

Thus Netflix Wednesday, being proficient in at least Spanish and Italian, would know how to use the next romance language properly, and would know proper pet names for males vs. females. She's cultured like that, and anything less would make her look stupid...and none of us want to make her look stupid.

Now to get to what's been bugging the Hell out of me:

It wouldn't be "mon loup". It would be "ma louloute" (though a literal translation of "my wolf" feminine would be "ma louve", which is kind of cute and looks like "love", but when the French want to get cute, they get cute). "Mon loup" is to refer to a male, so if Wednesday was dating Xavier or Tyler, it'd be "mon loup".

When I was growing up in France, one big pet name was "mon chou" (literally "my cabbage", even though it refers to a chou à la crème, i.e. a cream puff). My mother used to call me "mon petit chou", even though at the time I was still *living within my young AFAB body (corrected for clarity, I'm AFAB of course, this was long before my transition); she wasn't and isn't ever accurate with her French, because the feminine of "mon petit chou" is "ma chouchoute/choupinette". (I could see a Wenclair Wends getting creative and creating her own word, "lupinette" based on this.)

Other gendered* appropriate terms of endearment Wednesday would use if so compelled:

"ma biche"/"ma bichette" (my doe/my little doe) (Enid: WHAT did you call me??? 🤣)

"ma tigresse" (my tigress 🐯)

"ma poule" (my hen) or "ma poulette" (my little chick 🐣)

"ma princesse"

"ma douce" (my sweet) (Enid: DID YOU JUST CALL ME A DOUCHE? 💀)

"ma puce" (this is another I heard often, it literally means "flea", but in French it's affectionate)

"ma petite femme" (my little wife)

"ma reine" (my queen)

Finally, it's not "mon chéri", it's "ma chérie". That's the most basic one there is.

There are a ton of others out there, but these are the classics that I remember, and classic is what I assume all canon Ortega Wednesday is. Traditional, allergic to technology, sticks to old fashioned behavior like Donovan (I mean, did you bother to read that one page of her novel from Episode 7? Her writing vocabulary is off the charts and typical of someone raised/trained classically... that's the real reason her publishers probably rejected her).

*I say gendered appropriate (not "gender appropriate") because I'm talking about the language and there are French terms of endearment that do not have a feminine form, like "mon cœur" and "mon amour". These terms you can use for women/girlfriends that are 'masculine' gendered (yes, I realize there are a lot of animal ones, but that's French for ya):

"mon petit monstre" (my little monster)

"mon petit oiseau" (my little bird...oh hello, Sandor, where'd you come from 💩)

"mon poussin" (my chick 🐣)

"mon chaton" (my kitten 🐾)

"mon trésor" (my treasure)

"mon doudou" (my cuddlebug, basically)

"mon coco" (literally coconut, but it's like saying "my dear")

"mon ange" (my angel)

"mon lutin" (my elf...which might by apropos for Enid 🫠)

This is not at all meant to be an exhaustive list; there are several other pet names and probably new ones since language is constantly evolving. It might help to poke around online and/or join forums dedicated to those who speak your target language.

I realize it can be confusing. Non-English romance languages can be, if you don't know anything about them. As a writer, I'm very appreciative of my experiences in France and Italy*, and I think the newer writers need to think outside of the Anglocentric box when writing for a character like Netflix Wednesday. (I need to take my own advice, because I programmed one of my deleted scenes in English audio without thinking of the non-English speakers who read my fic. That's a whole other issue tho 🧠💥.)

Huh. That wasn't as bloody as I could've made it. I must be getting soft in my old age.

Anyway. We all want Wednesday to sound like someone who knows what she's doing. We should do better with our conversational dialogue than the actual writers. We don't want our Wednesday to be embarrassed or embarrassing, again...

*And all the other countries I visited as a kid and adult...I know she's there right now, but I was in Buda in 2014 and while it's one of my favorite cities, Hungarian is the worst language ever 😭 EVER.

[loonysama]

20 questions for writers

Thank you for the tag @thebiwifeonao3!

How many works do you have on AO3? 88

What's your total AO3 word count? 1,090,772

What fandoms do you write for? Mostly Frozen (Kristanna, especially), sometimes crossing over with other Disney movies. I've also written 7 fics for Wednesday (TV), and one or two for Good Witch (TV), The Americans, Beetlejuice, and What We Do in the Shadows. Oh, and a fic about the song, "Brandy."

What are your top five fics by kudos?

Woe is Your Master (Wednesday/Tyler, E)

Cat Scratch Fever (Wednesday/Tyler, T)

Woe is Me (Wednesday/Tyler, E)

Sweet Poison (Wednesday/Tyler, T)

Black Lace on Red (Wednesday/Tyler, E)

5. Do you respond to comments? Yes, I try to! But to be honest, if I get a super long comment or something that needs a long response, I usually put it off because I want to answer with as much effort as the commenter put into it. So sorry to the people whose comments I haven't responded to. Please know that I read them and loved them and will respond as soon as I collect myself from the puddle on the floor.

6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? I've yet to write anything with an unhappy ending. But the closest I got was The Ice King (Hans/Elsa, E). I can't say because it's a spoiler. Let's just say that everyone got what they wanted, but it didn't work out quite the way it was supposed to.

7. What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? Everything else? I guess if I have to pick one it's She Holds a Candle (Kristoff/Anna and Stephanie (transfemme Sven)/Ryder). I ended up giving Stephanie and Ryder their own chapter because I loved them so much and just wasn't ready to let them go. So Kristoff and Anna ended up together and then Stephanie and Ryder got married at the end. (Y'all know I love Ryder so much that I named my cat after him.)

8. Do you get hate on fics? I have. Mostly on ffn, so I stopped posting there. And I've gotten a little on AO3, too. Mostly it's been from people who don't know what archive warnings and tags are for, or who have contempt for the characters, ships, fandoms, etc. and haven't even read it.

9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind? Yes! Mostly m/f, usually femdom, and sometimes with mild BDSM (mostly bondage)

10. Do you write crossovers? What's the craziest one you've written? I did more when I started out, but I don't do it so much anymore. I guess the craziest was Hans/Elsa in an animated Addams Family fusion AU (The Magenta Cravat, T). At one point I was going to write a WednesdayxFrozen AU where Anna was Wednesday's roommate instead of Enid and Elsa was a teacher at Nevermore. There's also the Frozen/Midsommar AU (Elsa/Pelle) which will never happen either. C'est la vie.

11. Have you ever had a fic stolen? I don't think so.

12. Have you ever had a fic translated? Yes, a couple of my Wednesday fics were translated into Russian!

13. Have you ever co-written a fic? Yes, but it never saw the light of day. It was with a few other Frozen and Beauty and the Beast writers in the Frozen Hearts Will Melt Discord server (DM me if you want an invite).

14. What's your all-time favourite ship? Kristoff/Anna from Frozen.

15. What's a WIP you want to finish but doubt you ever will? All of them? Seriously, though. I've determined that none of my WIPs on AO3 are going to be finished except for Head Over Feet. I'd love to finish The Refugees, All Tied Up, Sophisticated Grace, and Pour Some Sugar on Me, but I don't know if I have it in me. I dunno. Maybe someday.

16. What are your writing strengths? I've been told character dynamics and descriptions of body movements.

17. What are your writing weaknesses? Repetitive sentence structure, head hopping. And I have no idea where commas are supposed to go. Every time I think I'm right, my grammar check tells me I'm wrong.

18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for fic? I generally prefer to write dialogue in English and indicate that it's in another language. I don't want to make the reader do extra work just to find out what happens next. I also want the reader to be in the character's shoes the entire time without even realizing it, and having to read in a language they're not as familiar with can take them out of it. But, at the end of the day, it's a technique and a choice the writer has to make about what's best for the characters and their story.

I wish I knew another language well enough that I could write a whole fic in that language, but alas. I hold writers who write in foreign languages in the highest esteem.

19. First fandom you wrote for? Frozen (Kristoff/Anna)

20. Favourite fic you've written? Pretty Please (Kristoff/Anna, E). I wrote this for @99goosebumps for the 2023 BDSM Exchange. It was so much fun to write, and all the stars aligned with it. Aside from writing some new kinks I loved, I'm really happy with the quality of the fic and I really loved Kristoff and Anna's dynamic in this one. I don't think I've ever gotten it quite as right as I did in that fic. It's definitely not for everyone, but I hope the people who have read it found something they liked there.

Tagging @thefamilybruno @glassslippers-n-cowboyboots @bad-at-names-and-faces @thecassadilla @99goosebumps @paigebstorey @butchbetty! And anyone else who wants to participate.

[shipposttt]

The Ship of the Day: Wenclair

Spoiler warning for Netflix’s Wednesday!

Names: Wednesday Addams and Enid Sinclair/ Jenna Ortega and Emma Myers

Ship Name(s): Wenclair

Original Content: Netflix original Wednesday (2022)

Ship info:

Wednesday is a Netflix original series which aired in 2022, based in Nevermore Academy (a school for outcasts), following Wednesday Addams as she investigates a string of violent murders linked to the school using her budding psychic abilities and how they’re connected to her family history (both the distant history and recent history of 25 years ago when her own parents attended the academy).

Wednesday first meets Enid Sinclair, a bubbly werewolf who has yet to have her first transformation, when she is shown to her dorm room, discovering that the two girls with possibly the most opposite aesthetics possible would be sharing a dorm room that year. At first, the pair don’t get along, with Wednesday’s mother claiming Wednesday is allergic to all the colour Enid has and dividing the room down the middle, removing the colourful vinyl tape that Enid had covered the window with from her half. Despite the antagonistic nature of their relationship at this time the two do bond. For instance, during the full moon  Wednesday is outside on the balcony practicing cello when Enid comes out, prompting the pair to open up to one another as they discuss Enid’s lack of a transformation and the last time Wednesday cried- when her pet scorpion was killed as a child. Following this, the two are with the rest of the academy at a fair and Enid is saying goodbye to Wednesday (as she plans to run away from the school), going in for a hug but stopping herself as she sees Wednesday’s reaction, stating “still not a hugger, got it” which is a call back to when they met and Enid went for a hug, stating the same thing. Though this action in and of itself is platonic in nature, some fans read it as the start of a budding relationship due to the way Enid (who is very tactile and shows love, platonic or otherwise, through physical touch) easily accepts Wednesday’s boundaries without pushing them.

The two bond further during the Poe Cup, a race between the different houses of the academy, wherein Enid is upset at the last minute due to her vampiric co-pilot, Yoko, being sabotaged using garlic bread- resulting in Wednesday offering to take her place and help win them the cup, even going as far as wearing the team costume as a little black cat. This is ironic as this ship definitely fits into the black cat/golden retriever trope. Following their win, they are pictured standing shoulder to shoulder, which many fans claim illustrates Wednesday’s growing care for Enid, as she wouldn’t ordinarily let people touch her.

Despite the fans excitement over the pair, within the very next episode Enid starts obsessing over gorgon Ajax, with Wednesday even using this crush to further her murder investigation. With that, Enid asks Ajax out on a date and is rather excited for it, with Wednesday stating that she would nail gun his heart if he breaks Enid’s heart. Unfortunately for him, Ajax accidentally stones himself by looking in a mirror, making him stand Enid up- luckily for him however, Wednesday is not given chance to hold true to her threat. By this point, her family member, Thing (the disembodied hand), sets Wednesday up on a date with ‘normie’ Tyler for the Rave’N dance, forcing Wednesday to attend. Throughout the series up until this point Tyler and Xavier (Wednesday’s classmate) had made it clear they were romantically interested in her. As a whole, the fandom ignore this odd love triangle (or is it technically a love more than/less than sign? < > im just saying..) as Wednesday largely shows a lack of feelings back to them, using them to further her investigation into the murders. During the dance, Enid comes over to compliment Wednesday, though she voices her dislike for W’s date as she does so, calling him “... interesting”. Some fans read this as jealousy instead of just friendly concern (guys im a wenclair shipper too, playing devils advocate here sucks). Can we just mention how right Enid is here? That dress was impeccable.

Within the next few episodes the pair bond further over family struggles as family visiting weekend occurs, further bonding over a séance for Goody Addams (Wednesday’s ancestor) and Wednesday’s surprise birthday party in a crypt. Unfortunately, everything does not sty this positive, with Wednesday lying to Enid about a girls night out and instead taking her and Tyler to a house to investigate the monster- when they get home Enid is angry and moves to her friend Yoko’s room. Enid is rightfully angry here, Wednesday’s actions almost got them killed by the monster, thought the fandom argues she’s also partially angry cause she wanted to be alone with Wednesday but Tyler had also been there, invited under the pretence of a date with Wednesday. After Enid moves out, Wednesday is show watching her side of the room, showing she missed her despite how she had treated her and her original distaste for them sharing the room. Eventually, Enid moves back in, claiming someone has to look after Thing and Wednesday after the room got broken into- this time round, Wednesday says to not bother with the tape  to divide the room, showing the improvement in their relationship over time.

Now for the big finale, taking place towards the end of the school year. Following a torture plan in reference to the string of murders done by the monster (now discovered to be a hyde), Wednesday is expelled from Nevermore Academy. As she’s packing, we see a scene between her and Enid, where she describes the mark Enid left on her as ‘indelible’ and they promise not to forget one another, resulting in another call back to “not into hugs, got it” as Enid goes for a hug only to claim that not hugging is kind of their thing. Wednesday gets kidnapped before she can leave, revealing Tyler to being the hyde, and leading to a series of events that cause Enid to transform for the first time to save Wednesday and Wednesday defeating the resurrected pilgrim Crackstone whose aim was to kill all outcasts. Many argue that Enid’s first transformation being to save Wednesday was very romantic and truly shows a change from platonic to romantic within their relationship, especially since Wednesday actually hugs Enid following the battles.

Actresses Jenna Ortega and Emma Myers have shown support with this ship, alluding to it multiple times during interviews and having each other as their lock screens, furthering the fans view of this ship and causing them to go beyond it to also ship the actresses irl.

Type of Ship: Queer read and possible queer bait

Now, we all love a good black cat/ golden retriever trope and this pair perfectly encompasses that, with a little bit of enemies to friends to lovers sprinkled in. However,  i would argue that currently, this ship is only queer read and not canonically queer. Though the relationships of Wednesday with Tyler and Xavier respectively were given a lot less work than Wednesday’s relationship with Enid leading to arguments that the pair are ‘endgame’, it is never out rightly confirmed that the pair of girls have anything more than strong platonic feelings for one another within the show. Furthermore, the actions of the actresses during press tours and interviews could be considered queer bait as they encouraged the shipping within the show, encouraging more queer viewers to watch it for that relationship despite it not being canon. Of course, this is just based on season one of Wednesday and the second season of this show may make it canon or further their relationship in unexpected ways, however we cant know at this time what the next season may look like..

Thank you for reading!! (psst any good Wenclair recs? I keep forgetting what is fanon and canon)

Admin🦇

[lord-of-the-muses]

"Sorry if I'm late, I was doing 'Things'" ❤🗡️ - Wednesday

Pairings : Wednesday Addams x Enid Sinclair

Prompt by : @vaniloqu3nce

Wednesday Addams arrived at school, her signature black dress and braids perfectly in place. She was greeted by her friends Enid, Yoko, Bianca, and Xavier. They were all excited to see her and asked where she had been.

"Sorry I'm late, I was doing things," Wednesday replied with a mysterious grin.

Enid, who was known for her sharp wit, quipped, "Hi, I'm 'things'.

The group erupted in laughter and cheers as they realized what Enid meant. Wednesday had finally come out as a lesbian and her friends were thrilled to support her. Yoko, who was always the most vocal, shouted "1000 points for Wenclair!" in reference to the ship name for Wednesday and Enid.

Enid was happy for her friend but also a bit reserved. She didn't want to make a big deal out of it and preferred to just enjoy the moment with her friends.

Just as the group was celebrating, Tyler, a notorious flirt, appeared out of nowhere and tried to flirt with Wednesday.

Enid immediately got annoyed and kicked him off, not wanting anyone to ruin the special moment for her and her friends.

The group continued to celebrate and support Wednesday as she embraced her true self. They knew that no matter what, they would always have each other's backs. And as for Tyler, well, he knew better than to mess with the Addams clan.

Wednesday's POV:

Wednesday was not one to show her emotions easily. However, she couldn't help but feel touched by Enid's actions. She appreciated the fact that her lover was willing to stand up for her and protect her from unwanted advances. She also felt a sense of pride knowing that her friends were so supportive of her and enid's sexuality.

As Enid kicked Tyler off, the group erupted in cheers and applause. They were all proud of Enid for standing up for Wednesday and showing Tyler that he was not welcome. Wednesday smiled and gave Enid a small nod of appreciation.

Enid was not one to seek attention or praise. She simply did what she felt was right in the moment, and was happy to see her girlfriend happy. She gave a small shrug and a smile, acknowledging the cheers but not making a big deal out of it.

The group continued to celebrate and support Wednesday and Enid. They knew that they had each other's backs and that was all that mattered. Wednesday felt grateful to have such amazing friends and was excited to see what the future held for her and Enid.

[morallygreyvigilante67]

thoughts on wyler?

Before I get into this, I'd like to say that people can ship what they want. This is purely my opinion on the ship based on what we've seen in canon.

Objectively, I don't see it happening.

A few arguments I see people bring up regarding the possibility of the ship happening mostly boil down to:

Wednesday (or the Addams family as a whole) likes murder

The Addams family have also killed people

Tyler actually liked Wednesday

Tyler was manipulated/it was the Hyde

So, lets go over these individually.

Wednesday (or the Addams family as a whole) likes murder

On a surface level that might seem true, however it's always felt like the family as a whole are more interested in the motive behind the murder as opposed to the killing itself.

Tyler didn't really seem to have any motives of his own besides carrying out Thornhill's orders. On his part, the killings were senseless.

Now, while all this is - admittedly - open to interpretation, the Addams family are shown to react very differently when the person being targeted is one of their own. They do not like it when someone in their family is in danger, and Wednesday was very much in danger.

And even if she wasn't one of his targets, Tyler was still killing people to help Thornhill resurrect Crackstone to commit mass genocide against the Outcasts, a group which Wednesday and her family are very much a part of.

I see a few people bring up the relationship between Fester and Debbie from the 90s movies in support of Wyler, but both cases are very different.

For one thing, Fester and Debbie were married. How is this important?

The Addams family are immune to a lot of things that should reasonably kill them and it's impossible for an Addams to kill another Addams (no, I'm not making that up) hence the fact they practice their more macabre hobbies on each other (but no one else). It didn't matter how many times Debbie tried to kill Fester, because at that point she'd never be able to.

Fester was in no real danger. Wednesday dying was a very real possibility.

Also consider how Wednesday reacted when she suspected Xavier was the killer, and then when she found out it was Tyler.

When she thought it was Xavier she was quick to get him arrested, and she didn't really show him much sympathy for - what she assumed to be - his actions.

When she found out it was Tyler, she was quick to capture him and then tried to torture him in an attempt to get him to admit to it. I highly doubt that was done with the same sentiment as the family hobby.

A few people like to reference her "I guess I have a type" line, but considering she was running away from him, the line comes across more sarcastic as opposed to a genuine statement.

The Addams family have also killed people

I'm not going to pretend that they haven't. But pretty much everyone killed by the Addams family was a person who had targeted them first.

I see people bring up the piranha scene at the start of the series in support of this argument, but Wednesday only did it because of what happened to her brother.

Was it an overreaction? Yes, I'm not trying to say that her actions were completely justified. But the fact of the matter is, she wouldn't have done it if her brother hadn't been targeted first.

Tyler actually liked Wednesday

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. I can't claim that everything he did was just in the name of manipulating her.

But, regardless of whatever genuine feelings he might have had. It doesn't change that - from Wednesday's perspective - that's what he was doing. As far as she's probably aware, he was just doing it to manipulate her.

Tyler was manipulated/it was the Hyde

I'm not going to deny that he wasn't, but the fact of the matter is, he still killed people. "He was manipulated" is not a get out of jail free card, if this was a real court case, he would still receive some form of punishment for his actions.

Actions which included:

Attacking Eugene (someone who reminds Wednesday of her brother)

Attacking Enid (One of the few people Wednesday has been shown to care about)

Setting up a "date" as a distraction to allow Thornhill to steal the book and also almost resulted in Thing's death (Wednesday's family)

Granted, the "it was the Hyde" argument could be applied to what happened to Eugene. But considering he didn't seem at all remorseful for what he did when he was talking about it in the police station, I doubt it. And considering the fight with Enid happened afterwards (and he was also trying to kill Wednesday before that happened) it doesn't really apply there either.

And the "it was the Hyde" argument definitely can't be applied to what happened to Thing (a reminder that Wednesday actually cried because of this incident).

Wednesday released piranhas on the boys who shoved her brother in a locker. And people really think she'd just forgive Tyler for attacking three people who she cares about, one of which is a member of her family. Unlikely.

[clean-bands-dirty-stories]

Song prompt: 

Number of shuffles: 5

Sam/Xavier pairing!

I want to see what song comes up, and what you think about it. Also maybe just your Sam/Xavier (Savier?) pairing thoughts in general??

^^ submission from @cleosven

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Okay so first of all, I’m thinking we have different Sams. I was talking about my OC 👉🏻👈🏻 my apologies! But I’m gonna answer this anyway because I still desperately need to talk about them 😭😭

Anyway, song: “Runaway” by AURORA

This song, to me, has this sense of “I left to explore the world and have new experiences, and I did, and it was harsh and cruel and now all I want to do is go back home” type of song. Which. Listen okay so Sam and Xavier used to be really good friends that would be like will-they-won’t-they type of flirty, and definitely ended up getting dared to kiss as a dare, or to “practice” because they’re dorks. And they were really affectionate too, like in general? But I love the idea that it’s one of those things where when you joke too much, and push the limits too far, it’s like... well, I can’t tell what’s a joke and what’s actual flirting. Or is it all a joke? Or is it all flirting? And I hc Xavier to have attachment issues since his dad is so absent and we don’t even know anything about his mom. So when someone actually showed interest in him that wasn’t a joke or easily dismissed (in my fic he and Tyler are exes shhhhhh that’s not the point) Xavier dated him instead, leaving Sam feeling that like. Maybe it WAS all a joke and not at all serious.

And Then Some Things Happened with Tyler (namely, he met Laurel and was activated as a Hyde and emotionally manipulated/abused/groomed) so he and Xavier broke up. Which left Xavier spiraling, and he ended up getting closer with Bianca (I like the idea that they knew each other before school just for funsies bc their parents are both famous) and just bonding over absentee parents and how hard relationships are. And after a few months, they started dating, once again leaving Sam feeling like chopped liver.

So he distanced himself from Xavier, and stopped being his friend and just like completely cut off communication and all the flirting and stuff. But then Wednesday comes to Nevermore, and Sam’s autistic and Wednesday’s autistic so of course they become best friends (in this version I ship Enid and Wednesday and I just loved the idea of Wednesday having a REAL and proper partner in crime who wants to be apart of the chaos and hasn’t been dragged along unwillingly/unknowingly) so when she starts to talk to Xavier more during her search of the Hyde, and ends up in his shed as he’s coming back, Sam jumps in to hide that she’s there and pretend to ask him to the Rav’n and That’s Why Hes There And That Reason Only! But as they get closer again, all the bitterness and hurt that Sam’s been holding onto pales in comparison to the goodness that Xavier makes him feel. The warmth in his touch, and the way that Xavier’s gaze makes Sam feel so seen and understood and adored, down to every flaw. Xavier has always made Sam feel deeply loved, and it doesn’t even have to be specifically romantic. He’s just... safe. And god hes missed it. He realizes that like, Xavier is home to him. Always has been, even after all these months of distance and cold shoulders and internal cursing and rebuffing. Xavier is still home.

And Sam is still in love with him

[proton-selfships]

how aboutttt 🌦️, 🛌 and 🎞️ for the ask game?? :3c

‘Imagine Your S/I Was Canon…’ Self-Ship Asks

Thank you, Rainy!

🌦️: Would you be accompanied by mostly fluff or angst fanfics? Both? Explain why.

I feel like I've noticed a pattern where it's often the fluffiest ships that draw the most angst and the angstiest ships that draw the most fluff. And my ship would be angsty before it becomes canon.

On one side, you've got a woman who's committing murders left and right and swearing herself to the hatred of a group for just the chance at her—deceased, might I add—family's approval. No past love life or pursuit of any of her own desires outside her family's legacy to speak of. And then on the other side, you've got a woman from said group who's held herself back from trying to pursue a relationship because of her feeling ignored by the world and unworthy of love. She flocks to the other woman's companionship, only for it to turn out to be a lie and send her spiraling into despair. Except actually it wasn't a lie deep down and the other woman has just been so horribly repressed that she's in denial about how fond she's truly grown of her intended pawn and how made for each other the two of them are.

I mean, we get a happy ending, but it's HELL getting there and we both still have a lot of healing to do after our dramatic first kiss. We do have children and a cat in the future, but audiences only know that because our son shows up via time travel shenanigans.

So I could see fic writers focusing in hard on the soft moments that'd happen between us. Many of them would involve garden dates, sipping tea together, and lots of snuggles.

They'd probably also lean into the inherent Addams-esque comedy of our situation, too, with this unhinged murderer with a thousand-yard stare and an unnerving sense of humor acting all sweet with her babyfaced girlfriend who loves to crack jokes and infodump about her interests. Because make no mistake, redemption or not, Laurel will always be just as off-putting and will still commit crimes. And I wouldn't have her any other way.

🛌: What tropes show up in fics involving your ship?

A bunch of tropes are already applicable in canon. We're friends-to-enemies-to-lovers, for one! You've also got slow burn, telepathy and shared dreams, a redemption arc for Laurel, a fankid from the future, us building a domestic life for each other and raising a kitten together...

I imagine soulmate AUs would be pretty popular. Like, imagine the drama of me seeing that my soulmate is someone named Laurel when I still don't know her name, being like "who tf is this" and seeing she apparently died decades ago while Laurel hides the fact that that's her. Or if we find out we're soulmates right after I find out who she really is and what she's done! (But let's be real, I focus on the potential drama, but a lot of writers would probably just use the AU to spare us a lot of the pain we went through in canon. ;w;)

I see our canon dynamic as almost anti-soulmates, where the universe did everything it could to keep us on separate paths and it took everything in us to defy that. But I imagine it'd be popular to explore how we'd deal with the opposite situation!

🎞️: What ‘canon’ scenes would the fandom point to as evidence for the validity of your ship?

Oh man... The time we kiss after she saves me from my powers basically nuking everything, for one. That'd send shockwaves through the fandom and make the shippers squeal. Probably the Wednesday and Enid shippers, too, given how many parallels we'd have with them.

But also the little moments leading up to that, too! Like the way she looks at me when I tend her plants and call them her babies. Or when it's revealed she complimented me to high heaven to our coworkers to cover for my disappearances back when she was controlling me. Or the fact that she sends me away specifically on the night she intends to kill everyone else in Nevermore. Or Tyler referring to me as her favorite little pet with disgust and lamenting the fact that his master would let herself go so soft when he thought they'd made a deal to kill everyone. Or Wednesday figuring out that the only reason that made sense for Laurel to treat me the way she did and not make me a murderer as well was that she secretly liked me.

I could go on forever, before her redemption she wants to kiss me so bad it makes her look stupid <3

[chrisevansstitties]

Yeah pretty much. Not much else to say about that. But somehow people are blind to the Addams Family dynamic.

They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky, they're altogether ooky, the Addams Family. *snap* *snap.* Also, sidenote, notice how Tyler is the character that references the OG theme song?

"You're not scary you're just kinda... kooky."

"I prefer spooky."

"Oh. :D"

I was giggling & kicking my feet at that scene. That boy is an Addams for sure!

There would be crickets if everything played out the exact same way just the roles were reversed they would swear up & down that Enid really likes Wednesday & basically what we say about Weyler now. But if anyone dared to ship Wednesday with Tyler in Enid's role they'd call it forced. They're just friends. I was going to say they'd see Wenclair the way we do, but unfortunately I don't think that true. They'd still try & vilify Tyler. They say he's been trying to change Wednesday the whole season, but they make him out to be some evil mastermind about it. Like he never even really liked her and was forcing views on her. And that fight even though Wednesday would still be in the wrong They'd get mad at Tyler for blowing up on her, and would not see his side at all. He would get no sympathy from those same people who declare up & down that Wenclair is THE ship of the show.

Enid & Thing were Captains of SS:Weyler. Thing being the Captain are Enid Co-Captain, of course. Thing coming in clutch inviting Tyler to the Rave'N as Wednesday's date, and then getting her the dress she wanted so she'd have something to wear secured his top stop. I'm not even sorry. I can just imagine them have a gossip section & thing filling her in on Tyler & Wednesday and her gushing being like, "What? No way!" with her mouth wide & excited for more details.

Girl, I was shooketh, I was Bamboozled and lead astray! I was originally going to watch the show a little later than I did, I knew I'd ship Wenclair & everything would be fine. But then I saw the clip of Wednesday & Tyler's meet-cute on tiktok?! I love a good Coffee Shop/Barista Trope. I was a bit confused, but still intrigued. So, I decided to watch the series sooner than I planned. I liked the Tyler guy, but I was also going to try & keep an eye out for Selener Enid. And the confusion I felt when I finished the series. And then coming back online & having people still claiming the ship having any sort of romantic tension. I felt my first name must've BooBoo, and my last name TheFool, because I felt like I was at the circus.

Click Here <--- That was me.

I hate to say it but I feel the same way too. And you saying that there are fanfics where they give Enid Tyler's whole storyline just confirmed it for me. I was trying to have a conversation with is one girl in a comment section who was saying that people are just haters because "Wednesday is a queer icon." And I was really confused because I did not get that which now I'm realizing was a mistake. I'll get into why later. But we end up having a back and forth that ended up going nowhere. What she was saying have no relation to the post she commented under or with what anyone else was saying in the comments. She brought it up all on her own & she wasn't answering anything I asked she was just saying how Tyler is evil & he betrayed Wednesday & he shouldn't be redeemed. Wednesday would never forgive him & she should just torture him instead. So, I try explaining Addams family lore & more. To get her to see how it isn't far off for them. And Tyler being coerced & tortured by an adult, you know the whole song & dance you have to do with these people. But also in the between I also asked the question is is the doesn't like the pairing because Tyler's a guy & it's not a queer ship. Which she already brought up the queer topic in her first statement. So, outright asked her was that her reason. And from then on she acted so offended that I asked. I'm trying to give perspective and examples and reasons to why people like Tyler & he's a great fit for the Addams. But all she can reply with is that doesn't make sense while not providing any reasons why. And still acted upset at me for asking my question. But the kicker is she ends up saying the words "straight people can ship a man and a woman no matter what," and that confused the hell out of me. Because she was going on & on about me asking her if she didn't like the ship because it wasn't queer. Then, later on in the conversation say throw that at me as some kind of insult. I was just dumbfounded her blatant hypocrisy. Then I respectfully called her out on it & so my way out of that conversation. She never denied that that wasn't the reason either. She could've just said no & I would've accepted that & carried on. But that made me realize that I was it is she just didn't want to admit it. If it wasn't she wouldn't have hyperfocus on that & disregard everything else I was saying. It's because she didn't have a real argument for anything else.

The reason I said earlier that getting into that conversation was a mistake was a mistake was because thinking back to it. She had made that comment under a post that questioned Tyler's intention & what would be in store for season two. She brought it on herself mention her statement of Wednesday being queer in a posted that didn't mention it. So, I'm picking up now that me replying was walking into some sort of trap that she would be aggressive with anyone who disagreed with her & try to turn it into a debated on homophobia. She really didn't want to talk about Tyler or the Addams at all. She either wanted someone to agree with her & hate on Tyler with her or bait some homophobe into saying something homophobic so she can play the victim. And realizing that someone like that could be so nasty & twisted really messed with me a little. That's what made me realize it was never about Tyler's character. It was his gender people may have a problem with. People like that just don't want Wednesday with a guy period. So, I decided to fade out of fandom. I'm still here, but I'm not HERE, you know what I me? I just trying to enjoy what I like in silence for the most part.

And I do like Enid & Ajax too. I think they'd be adorable if they continue. I love how cute & a little oblivious Ajax is. I think that kind of works for Enid because it'll indirectly force her into the habit I saying exactly what she means instead of trying to hint at things & hoping the other person gets the message. Ultimately, having her start to form healthier communicate skills. But I also fear that some of the hate Ajax gets may be the same reason Tyler is so hated. He's a boy & he gets in the way of their ship.

I don't really have any feelings toward Xavier. He was there. The best part about him for me was watching him get grumpy at all the Weyler moments. I don't get why he thought Wednesday was going to like her right off the bat. Especially when he dismissed her thoughts, theories & visions in the very beginning. That's what I think really turned her off to him also. In the beginning she tried coming to him, but he never took her concerns said seriously. He wouldn't even consider them. I don't know exactly what happened, but I it's said he doesn't like Tyler for beating him up & destroying his mural. He has reason to not like Tyler.

I loved Tyler meeting Fester. She actually took Fester to the coffee shop, so she knew she'd have to introduce them. That was a calculated moment on her part. She wanted Tyler to meet Fester! It's so cute! She even let him sit so close to her in the small booth. She tried to play it of saying his dad wouldn't like them hanging around. Girl, we know you don't give a damn about that! And you're also actively checking him out as the sentence came out of your mouth!!! And that's not the first time either. Another time I can remember is the birthday episode when he slide her the Happy Birthday coffee & sat across from her. She blatantly looking him up i& down while he's talking making him nervous while he's trying to ask her out!!

If the worlds two collide and Joel does make in into the series somehow I see him being more of a first love for Wednesday. Not endgame. But I always thought that they would keep that separate. It never even crossed my mind that Joel would be in the series. But now that I am, I would want it to be something like that If they did. But I still see that as a different universe entirely.

I don't know if Bianca & Lucas are official but she did bring him to that library. It was so distracting to me because there was a whole episode about the Nightshade & Wednesday finding the crypt. SO for Lucas to just be there was so jarring to me. I almost couldn't pay attention to the scene. I'm going to need more than that, y'know? Also Yoko definitely was either supposed to have a bigger role this season or she's going to have one the next because she's so present in the show even though we don't hear much from her. I'd Love to know more about Yoko & Devina too.

Like, I said I'm not very involved with fandom. I saw a little of the hate before though. What exactly are they saying. I get not liking him but I also see him as someone who holds back a lot of his emotions. He may even blame himself for his wife's death. But in no means do I think he doesn't care. I think he cares a lot actually. And that what really kills him. He's trying to hold a lot in. I don't think he's aware of how he's hurting Tyler by being so closed off. I believe he thinks he's helping him by not showing his son how broken he really is. I don't think he knows that Tyler needs that because he's hurting too. And he definitely knew about the hyde beforehand. I don't know exactly what he knows but he wasn't clueless.

The writers have a great show on their hands. They don't need to pander to the louder part of the fandom for the show to be good. It already is. They might end up doing so because it's so popular though & they want the show to go on & make money. If they do I see a lot of trouble for the future the writing is going to be off because that wasn't the story the were telling in the first place. A lot of things won't make sense leading to the show ultimately getting cancelled anyway. I hate the strong independent female narrative anyway. It's such a double standard to because people claim they don't want romance but if it's with another female than it's okay. I noticed Jenna did the same thing talking about how she hated the triangle & wanted the show to go deeper into the darker aspects while also saying she's supports wenclair & will try to make it happen. That is not consistent with what she's said before. And like we stated before it'll be forced.

I skipped a couple of things but I'll come back to me. Just remind me in the next reply. I want to get this out there so you know I haven't given up on the conversation.

Can we talk about how Wednesday was in the most none triangle love triangle ever? Like, Wednesday and Tyler were doing their own thing meanwhile Xavier was just kind of there. Now if Wednesday liked Xavier too that would be a proper triangle, but that’s not what played out. She was always upfront with him that she was there for Tyler. He was just guy on the side who had a thing for a girl who’s into someone else. It was never a triangle. It almost confuses why anyone calls it a triangle at all.

[a-smol-cosplayer]

Anyways here are some more of my wednesday opinions cause I need them out of my brain (spoilers obvi)

First? Why is everyone hating on the show?? Between the ‘both men where so bland I couldn’t tell them apart fuck love triangles’ and ‘this isn’t an Adams reboot this sucks they made this show horrible and so out of character’ y’all need to take some breaths. 

I found it super compelling and enjoyable!! I loved seeing wednesday grow from someone how hated people and emotions to someone who still hates emotions but has them and has a good relationship with both her new friends and family!

To address the comments above:

Okay maybe Xavier is slightly bland - angsty art kid however his use in the plot and the fact that we are seeing him from Wednesdays pov who obviously doesn’t like him that much and is only using him for her own gain really saves him for me and leaves him open for more development. Talking about the love triangle - I struggle to see one. Its mostly Tyler x wednesday and xaviers crush is one sided, there is no point in the show where she laments over which boy she wants or the fact that she likes both of them - I think we have mixed up what an actual cliche love triangle is in media and ‘these two attractive boys are both in love with the main character’. There might have been more rivalry between them but wednesday certainly wasn’t aware of it

Tyler deserves his own dot point to address the comment above cause HOW CAN U SAY THAT MAN IS BLAND. especially after the last episode. It switches the view on his whole supposedly ‘bland’ point of view and forces u to think about wether thats the real thing and the person in the last ep was an amalgamation of manipulation and grooming as well as deep seeded trauma or if he was playing us the whole time with this awkward clueless personality as he manipulated everyone around him which is such a cool way of looking at it. If u don’t believe me go rewatch the series as if Tyler is aware of everything and is willingly manipulating everyone - cures the ‘he’s boring to watch’ thing instantly. 

Okay getting to the second point - I completely see where u are coming from but like its called WEDNESDAY. Its about this version of wednesday not the whole family, they don’t even appear in it very much. when I seperated it from the previous versions of the Adams family it was super good (however I do get where y’all are coming from about the whole ‘crazy morbid loving family’ dynamic being destroyed but I liked the journey that wednesday and mortica went on and I think it added to her character so I am willingly ignoring it 

Okay now for the part where I rant about Tyler Gilpin cause I love that man with my whole heart and I am a Tyler apologist first and a human being second

MANS WAS MANIPULATED and has some super bad trauma. From the point where his mum died and his dad practically abandoned him and thennn the first person he thought he could trust to look after him and tell him the truth proceeded to turn around and groom and manipulate and USE HIM for her own gain and chained up a literal child whilst forcing him to change into a monster :/ people keep forgetting that he is literally at most 17/18 but probably 16/17 and has been left by every single adult in his child life. Cut my man some slack. 

second: he really did want to leave!! He had no control over his actions as the hyde - he literally says in the first episode how ‘at least one of them would be able to get out of this hellhole town.’ He was a manipulated child!! Sure he might have been slightly dark in his own right but he wasn’t going around murdering people for funzies and he probably only started to enjoy it as a trauma response :/ like what else was he supposed to do?? Go insane cause there was this woman who was forcing him to kill people. He couldn’t control himself as the hyde (u know in the last ep where he said ‘I wake up covered in blood and have no memory of what happened’ ect ect) so everyone saying he’s a murderer who doesn’t deserve wednesday (also wouldn’t a pscyo murderer be like the perfect fir for wednesday?  that scene where he admits to hurting Xavier and then trying to get better and wednesday saying she would have done something worse for the fun of it?? Bruh they are so perfect together and have so much chemistry but ill put that in another rant) anyways. Y’all are acting like he just went around murdering people for the fun of it completely aware are endorsing his actions (did we even watch the same show?) when the main point of Wednesday figuring out the master was a hyde was that there was actually another person controlling the monster in the woods and it wasn’t acting alone 

Also - I see lots of people being like “yeah but he basically assaulted Xavier y’all are ignoring it he’s a bad person 🙄💅” but like?? So was Lucas? 1 he was in the ‘friends’ who distroyed Xaviers painting as well, and he bullied Eugene and tried to fight/hurt wednesday just for being an outcast and used enid to get into the dance and ruined it for everyone and u don’t see people bashing him? People can change and realise that the stuff they used to do as a tween was bad and full of bias inherited from their parents/society :/ 

Anyways to sum up that rant - I love my slightly murderous and traumatised but yet awkward and soft hearted barista with my whole life and if he doesn’t get a redemption arch enemies to lovers, joining the gang (enid, Ajax, wednesday, Bianca, Xavier, Eugene and thing obvi), learning how to control the monster inside storyline next season I’m going to riot. 

Also antihero is totally Tylers song and I love it 

Imma be honest I didn’t dislike any of the characters - I think they are either already well fleshed out and interesting or have the potential to be and I loved the way the three seperate plot lines managed to organically weave and thread together into one whole point just viewed from different angles a lot. I absolutely love enid with my whole heart (I’m not stepping on wenclair at all I love the idea but I just really like the sunshinexgrumpy bestie vibes they have going on and I love Ajax to much to cut him out he’s so supportive and lovely) and she was such a good character with her own plot lines and the way she and thing interacted has my whole heart. Also the way that she got more understanding and wednesday got better at social cues and how to be friends/show emotions was really well done. 

Also low key if u apply my fav way to solve this said ‘love triangle’ which is they all just date each other meaning we get both tylorpe anddd these boys who love wednesday with their entire beings and supportive ajax and enid 👀👀👀👀 (yes Wednesday needs too grovel a little with Xavier she did not treat him well at all and Xavier maybe should get more interests than brooding and painting but we can work on it) ((I also approve of the fact that wednesday has two hands one for each Tyler and enid and ajax can share))

Im also seeing a lot of Tyler/Xavier hate but like,, can y’all not see wednesday isn’t the perfect character either? Like she’s a super morally reprehensible character and treats people hella bad some times. she literally put the only two people who she had managed to get attached too/have a connection too (Tyler and enid ((excluding Eugene love him too))) in danger for her own gain. I know thats the whole point of the show and I love her in that regard, it makes her character really interesting but like— she’s not absolutely perfect and these ‘mean bland boys don’t deserve her’ comments really aren’t helping her character development 

Okay thats it :) 

PLS BE NICE TO ME!! EVERY SINGLE POST IS SEE HAS PEOPLE UNDERNEATH IT GOING (ur opinions are wrong and ur a terrible person for shipping/not shipping this thing) (bc wenclair/wednesdayxxavier didn’t get together it was such a terrible show) (love triangles suck and if u like them u are a woman hating nazi) LIKE CAN YALL CALM DOWN ITS LITERALLY A SHOW CHILL OUT