#disney theories

[disneyfanatic1993]

Moana 2 Teaser Trailer

•My Disney-fied brain: “Aww, how cute! They’re giving Moana a little sibling! 😍”

•My angst-ridden brain: “WHAT IF THAT’S ACTUALLY MOANA’S CHILD, AND SHE IS HAVING TO LEAVE THEM WITH THIER GRANDPARENTS BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE FATHER?!?!?” 😟😟😟

I know it’s not true, but I also know I’m not the only one who thought this. 😂

[selkies-world]

OK so I've been rewatching a lot of animated movies recently - partly because they help a lot with my anxiety, partly because I just love them, I don't care how old I am.

Now, we all know that in the song Belle in Beauty & The Beast, there's the villagers' exchange.

"I need 6 eggs!"

"That's too expensive!"

And I know Tumblr has always assumed that these two statements go together. There's that heritage post where someone actually researched & broke down not just how expensive 6 eggs would have been to a peasant woman with multiple kids at the time, but also how expensive they would be for Gaston growing up ("When I was a lad I ate 4 dozen eggs to help me get large / now that I'm grown I eat 5 dozen eggs / so I'm roughly the size of a barge!")

And I love that post so much, which is why I kinda feel guilty about making this one... because....

It's not the eggs that are too expensive.

We can see in this frame, that the woman is saying she needs 6 eggs.

But there isn't a guy with her to say the price is too high.

No, the guy saying "That's too expensive!" appears behind Belle in this frame, next:

It's the teapots that are too expensive. Not the eggs.

Another thing that I love about this movie (& one of the many reasons I will always prefer it over the live action* remake of it) is the scene where Belle is reading to Beast, and then proceeds to teach him how to read when she discovers he's forgotten how, after 20 years as a Beast (I'll come back to this statement in the next part). But you know what makes that scene even sweeter???? This part of the song Something there:

This happens before the scene where Belle teaches him to read. This happens before we know that Beast is illiterate. We look at this scene and we assume they're reading it together. But, no. Either Belle is already reading to him in this scene, which would track with the Romeo & Juliet scene later. But look at how eager Beast is to scoot close to Belle in this scene. Look how excited he is to just... be close to her. That's a common thing throughout this song, actually - his wonder at her letting him be close, trusting him, and seeing him as gentle & sweet & "almost kind". This is why I dont think Belle is reading to him in this scene; I think he's just resting against her shoulder while cuddling up to her and enjoying her warmth & her presence & her trust. His attention is on her, not the book.

We know, looking back, that he isn't reading the book over hee shoulder, and they're not reading it together. But if this is when Beast is almost kind, I think this is a stage where he's still... playing, just a little bit. He's given her the library, which he has cleaned up for her, and he got so excited about it working & making her happy. He knows she won't flinch at his claw or shudder at his paw. And now he just wants to be close to her. Like a dog that just lays it's head on your lap for a pat while you're doing something else, or a dog falling asleep across your legs, Beast isn't interested in doing an activity together, he just wants to be with her, to be close to her, now that he's allowed. And I think that just makes this part even more adorable.

Now, what did I mean by him having been a Beast for 20 years at this point????

One of the biggest debates we have on here is about this age.

"The rose... would bloom until his 21st year" has always been interpreted as "the rose will bloom until he turns 21". So the Prince must have been 11 when the curse was implemented. Which is a plot hole, since he's shown to be an adult in the painting, and in the stained glass sequence; he's shown as the same age in the opening glass sequence as he is in the final stained glass image, just with different hair.

But I don't think the curse is until his 21st birthday; I think it's until his 21st year spent as a beast. (We are not acknowledging the Big Mouse's live action remake.)

Finally, one last thing. The rose.

I know we all know the theory of the Enchantress being Belle's mother, and that's what I'm running on here. If you saw a pretty, glowing flower in a glass case in a shredded room in a forbidden wing of an enchanted castle, the logical thing would be to not disturb it. But when Belle sees the rose, it's as if she goes into a mild trance - she's completely drawn to it. She doesn't even notice the Beast approaching until he's right there. All Belle wants to do is touch the rose - and I'm wondering if it's because there was something about it which was familiar to her. If she recognised her mother's magic.

OK, that's me done. Enjoy this, I guess???

(Also, the artists done a great job. Yes, Belle & Beast are the only ones who wear blue, which marks them as outcasts from the village. But did anyone else notice that Belle's hair & eyes are the same colour as Beast's fur & horns, and that Beast's eyes are the same colour as Belle's dress & bow???)

*there's a French live-action one which I absolutely adore & it's the only live-action one I'll acknowledge.

[princess-ibri]

TIMELINE!

Finally decided to post my DisneyVerse timeline on here. Also, went through and tagged all posts pertaining to my personal shared Disney universe as #DisneyVerse so they can be easily found :) Enjoy!

(Hope these notes are easy to understand)

(Nobody come at me with the Encanto placement ok? I know people keep saying its in the 1950s but those are turn of the century clothing styles and I will stick by that xD )

Will edit this as stuff is added/adjusted

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Sadira Father and mother moment before she was born in agarbah. / and the show bridgerton is about sadira father and mother live ( Kate and Anthony) please leave comments

[disneytheorizer]

**Spoiler Alert**

If you haven’t seen the Book of Bill yet, don’t read this post.

Bill Cipher’s possible connection to the Disney Universe:

Throughout the Book of Bill, we see many references to other Disney films and lore. While yes, I know that Gravity Falls is owned by Disney, I feel like not many acknowledge this. Within the Book of Bill, he’s drawn in a Steamboat Willie style, his head is on Chernabog’s body (replacing Chernabog’s head), and of course in the Theraprism room, we see him next to Kronos. While this is the famous painting of Saturn eating his son and while that painting is often referred to as a depiction of Kronos, it’s important to note that this is Disney we’re talking about here and the only major film considered canon within the Disney Universe regarding Greek Mythology is Hercules. In the movie Hercules, it’s villain Hades has fiery blue hair and happens to be the son of Kronos, he also can manipulate blue flames at will. You know who else has been shown to do that? Bill Cipher.

Could this means there is a possible connection between Bill Cipher and Hades? It’s important to note that Hades appears very different from the other Gods, they all glow whereas he does not, they don’t have any elemental design to them whereas he does. It begs the question if the powers of Hades came from Bill Cipher himself and it ended up changing his appearance. Perhaps Bill saved Hades from Kronos and a deal was made, perhaps Bill is the reason why Hades became a villain in the first place. I know this is a major stretch but in my mind, I feel as if this isn’t coincidental. I always felt as if Bill had some sort of connection to the Disney Canon Universe and technically he does. There have been references to him in DuckTales which is part of the Donald Duck universe which by extension is part of the Mickey Mouse universe which connects to the overall Disney universe.

[veryrobin]

All the hassle in Lady and the Tramp could have easily been avoided:

Even amount of meatballs — provided both dogs are equally hungry, which in most multi-dog households is an assumption when similar in size — would avoid having to push tomato-sauced meat with the snout

Shorter strands of spaghetti as the dogs clearly struggle to slurp, and, let’s be honest, long spaghetti was meant to be twirled onto a spoon with a fork, two utensils I do not see the dogs using any day soon

Finally, of course, they should have simply served the spaghetti in separate bowls

[notfa-mousyet]

I was today years old when I realized that A Bug's Life was based off of a Aesop's Fable with a mafia au aftermath story.

[shenna--ss]

Remus. Just Remus.

Remus: What if- Janus: NO. I AM DONE WITH YOUR CONSPIRACY THEORIES- Remus: Janus: IT'S 5 AM REMUS, THOMAS DOESN'T NEED YOUR CRACKHEAD RIGHT NO- Remus: Boo from Monsters Inc., is the witch from Brave. Roman, in the distance: Oh come on! Not Disney!

[bklily]

The difference between the TWST servers after this recent March update has been incredibly funny.

[lavenderr-starrs]

This is probably just a silly litttle coincidence but I’m watching Cinderella three cause it’s a sweet movie that I thoroughly enjoy and wished it was the second cause it’s genuinely just great

But in the scene where fairy god mothers wand turned her into stone I went “Huh, looks like the statue of the seven”

And that got me thinking of a what if the statues are the ACTUAL seven petrified For their crimes but then maybe 100 of thousands years go by and people of twisted wonderland misinterpreted history when those statues were discovered

[t-dubber]

BRO’S STRAPPED😱😱

If Stan taught Mabel how to box, then Ford taught Dipper how to shoot, along with some very brief hunter’s safety. He especially wanted someone else to know how that freaky sci-fi gun worked in a pinch.

[ashieeeesh]

GUYS I KNEW THE COSTUME LOOKS FAMILIAR ITS FROM DIAVAL FROM THE MOVIE MALIFICENT HSJDJNSBS

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Sadira just like her parent's father

And mother ( bio parents) it a fanfiction theory please leave comments or retweet

[biceratops7]

OK OK OK OK-

Ok is ANYONE else talking about the “evil coffee” theory yet??? Or is that just the discord I’m in

Cause like…. Who the FUCK puts THAT much emphasis on a RANDOM CUP OF COFFEE??

I mean Aziraphale literally says “I made my position clear” and then Metaron is immediately like “aAAH, but I brought you.. an OAT milk LaTé 👹” with foreboding music and ominous shots like some scene straight out of a fucking Disney movie, OH Kay… I see you you Jafar sounding bitch 😭😂

[meowszsz]

The cycle goes on:3

[rayroseu]

You know what's sick as hell about the design of the Briar Senates??? It's that their design mirrors the weapon of the Draconias 😭✨

I know they're getting flak rn bcs they feel like "boomers who's against any progress because they value toxic tradition" but i don't really think they're like... entirely evil lol or the root of every bad thing that happened in Malleus'/Lilia's life (though im side eyeing them as one of the perpetrators still lol)

Tbh, removing them would also cause more harm (just some social issues inside the fae society tbh) than good imo, (I know many ppl say this bcs they think removing the Senates would make it possible for the peace between human and faes, but the thing is, the Senates aren't the only group that thinks this way, almost the entirety of Briar Valley does lol so forcibly removing them now would only come off as "Malleus forcing "human ideals" on the faes just because he has spent 4 years with the humans"(plus is the understanding between humans and faes truly achieved if you try to silence one group(even if that group is kinda disagreeable with anything human related lol), plus realistically the faes would trust their fellow faes first rather than some humans,

so for me, Briar Senates doesn't give off the vibe of toxic old people who drags others down in their toxic practices (while that can be an accurate description i feel like it generalizes too much about their behaviour), rather than that, Briar Senates feels more like thorns, like thorns that surrounds Briar Valley, they're not exactly harmful unless you go against them, but ultimately they're still protection for Briar Valley.

Which makes it fitting that their design has a similarity with the Draconia's weapon, they're the thorns that protects the Draconias, even if it means sheltering them.

And, tbh, if the Senates other job is to ensure Draconias lives, they're kinda doing a "decent job"??? If we can assume through Maleficia's (and Malleus' case), since we didnt hear about her leaving the Senate's side, she managed to survive for so long, unlike Meleanor😭 Also could explain why they're so enraged when Lilia arrived with the news that Meleanor died and why they hated the weak bcs what would weakness could protect JJDSJD Kinda wish their hatred against Lilia wasnt that he was a weak bat fae, but rather they doubled down on the fact he failed protecting Meleanor, imagine if Gen. Lilia wasnt as great in magic as the fae nobles were, yet he still managed to earn a position beside the Princess, all that hard work only to fail at the most crucial time, it wouldve make sense in the Senates' side to say, "Meleanor shouldnt have appointed him" (because "he's weak from the start")

oh additionally, this is just my assumption, bcs I felt like the way the Senates recoiled when Lilia hatched the egg was kinda... random?? so this is my made up reason lol Remember, the Senates were adamant that Maleficia should only be the one to hatch the egg because she's a Draconia, but Lilia did it and he's not a Draconia, What if because Lilia hatched the egg, it also affected the development of Malleus?? Like maybe for instance, it affected Malleus' lifespan, maybe he still lives more than one thousand years but he won't live for another thousand years like a pure Draconia because he's been hatched by Lilia as opposed to who they wanted it to be, which is Maleficia, OF COURSE Lilia hatching the egg is heaps better than Malleus dying before being born, but this is just my auto thoughts regarding the random hate reaction the Senates did when Lilia hatched Malleus lol

Interestingly, the placement of the stone of Draconia against the thorns (of the Senates) can also be hinted at their relationship with them??? In Meleanor's case, her stone is on top of the thorns, which may indicate that she's not under the Senate's commands or that its just telling she just lived distantly from the Senates, most importantly her stone is bigger than the thorns which may tell the fact that the Senates worships her because she's powerful and greater than them, and she's not someone who can be trapped/ordered around within the Senates. But, tragically, in Malleus' case, his stone is under the thorns, like its telling that he's under the Senates protection at all cost and his stone is little compared to Meleanor's because he's still young.

I also have a theory that the Senates are part of Briar Valley's land, like its been canonically said that they're the dead faes of Briarland, which makes think that their death is similar to the death of Conall from Maleficent 2, when Conall was buried, his body literally morphed to the land, which makes me think this is how the Senates used to be buried, when they die, they become one with the land, that's why you can't just remove them, when they are literally the Lands of Briar Valley,,,, get it lol

Though this is making me think that if this is the case then Maleficia's city,,, if the Senate's presence are the strongest there bcs that's where they're nearly buried, does that mean around Black Scale Castle is just lowkey a graveyard.... Is that why Halloween is special for Briar Valley bcs they have close ties/respect for the dead and Halloween is essentially about honoring the dead 😭✨

Off topic, but maybe the thorns part of the Draconia's staff may also tell about their age. Notice how Meleanor's staff has 3 twists which may tell that she's atleast 300~ years old, (if each twists signifies a century), while Malleus' staff only has one twist on its thorns which is accurate considering he's only 178 years old (one century).

If this is true, I'm kinda curious about Maleficia's staff... does that mean hers will be convered in thorns (she needs at least 7 twists (7 centuries~ and more) there on her staff 😭✨)