#discourse ig?

[butchsmell]

find it really interesting how the "butchfemme relationships are heteronormative" crowd are never seen advocating for more butch4butch relationships in media, its only ever said in defense of fem4fem ships... you'd almost think they just have an issue with lesbian masculinity

[boldlygayingwherenogayshavegayed]

Disgust at something is valid. The solution is to avoid it. Avoid looking at it. Don't make your disgust other people's problem. There are a lot of foods that profoundly disgust me. I don't treat people who eat those as if they're creepy and gross and insanitary.

i dont understand why ppl have such a major judgement thing for feet fetishists. im not into feet but yall are cowards. there are men out there who would cry for the privilege of giving you a massage and you're gonna deny yourself that just bc he's motivated? move the fuck over i'm disabled and if a guy wants to suck on my toes until his tongue gave me french tips i will simply permit him and he's gonna thank me for it. it is 1am

[mayadoesfandomstuff]

Do you guys think that this is what the citizens of the DSMP feel like for almost every day of their lives?

[vigilskept]

this whole idea in both the fandom and the games themselves that being a people attached to their past & a lost civilization is a failing whereas a celebration of the present is something to strive for wrt elven & dwarven culture is something that reads as fundamentally western & liberal to me.

[gay-mooshrooms]

the first three weeks/lead up to 2025 have been great cus in the span of 21 days give or take we've gotten

c!quackity finale which involved him being canonically white and killing himself(that aired the same day former president jimmy carter died)

connereatspants streaming fortnite with a man thought to be elon musk but turned out to be an elon musk fanboy(either way he couldn't name three women)

and last but certainly not least, deam dropping the r-slur in reference to tommyinnit fans and saying he can reclaim it cus he's autistic

[southparkartsystuff]

I’m kinda done with the "Kyle is tough" discourse but seriously, almost nobody thinks Kyle is an uwu femboy twink anymore, complaining about it over and over again means you’re only beating a dead horse at this point.

I do believe Kyle IS a tough and angry character, but those aren’t his only personality traits, whenever I think of Kyle, I tend to remember him more because of his high intelligence as well as him being the voice of the reason of the group rather than him being ONLY the tough one.

On an unrelated note, I don’t understand why the fandom feels the need to "think it critically 24/7" when comes to enjoying characters, why can’t people just enjoy their positive qualities while acknowledging that they’re flawed? Idk, I’m just tired at this point.

I don’t want to hear something along the lines of “portraying Kyle as tough is OOC” from someone who depicts Kenny and/or Craig as tough guys who get into fights.

[gloomygloworm]

hi i'm here to cause more problems in the fandom!

ive seen some posts recently talking about "why the hell do people WANT to see slavery in veilguard, why are they so obsessed with oppression?" and i can answer this, as a brand new member of the fandom!

cause i had no fucking idea that elves were considered second class citizens until my friends told me!

i had no idea that the crows were so severely flawed, or that the antaam were proud warriors (other than canon fodder,) or that minrathous and tevinter as a whole had this huge problem with slavery.

i just yesterday after doing research into other games discovered alienages, about the dales, about who andraste was and who shartan was. because even reading the codex entries the game seems to fail to make any general connection to all previous games and the world they crafted at all! what the fuck is the chant of light? whats the major religion? what IS andrasteism? what do you mean the crows buy children and torture them - what do you mean they arent just exaggerated circus clowns that kill people? i get it, part of it is perspective. but you'd think dock town - a VERY POOR section of minrathous, would have an alienage? that we'd see more elves doing menial labor or trailing behind nobles as slaves?

also i keep hearing shit about the viper being the pope? or tarquin? where the hell is this info? quite frankly the game doesnt make the codex tempting enough for me to want to 100% it (ESPECIALLY finding out about this terrible "secret ending" that makes me fear picking up ANY MORE codex entries since i already have 2 out of the 3 you need to get it???)

the obsession with slavery isnt because i want to be oppressed, if i wanted that all i have to do is go be in public because im both queer and disabled living in a red state. its about what THEYYYYY the GAME CREATORS put in their own game. slavery! which now, despite how RAMPANT it supposedly is, i have no clue about! i only know about half the shit i do because my friends have been in the fandom a decade and im playing through origins now with them. which, btw, whoa what a game! not afraid to be icy and bitchy and HARSH in an environment where they cultivated that exact reaction.

i like the scenery in veilguard. i like the amount of mingling npcs in locations that make it feel more full, i like the soundtrack and the graphics and the companions as characters. i dont like the story! i dont like the lack of environmental storytelling or the discrepancies in information that i feel like i should know. it feels like its taken the same landslide that pokemon has - going from being called a loser by Gary to having no less than 3 best friends at any given time. There's such a lack of conflict like the game is scared to express the spectrum of emotions and personalities that people deal with day to day. i like my escapism the same as anyone else but if im walking through a city known for treating elves like second class citizens no i wont be surprised if im called a "knife ear" casually by some drunk moron who cant even stand straight.

no ones looking to be oppressed. we're looking for what you advertised to people ages ago - a complex story with serious consequences for the actions of others!

[stolenkissesdiaz]

it’s insane to me that ppl are SHOCKED buck and tommy broke up? from the beginning we knew it wasn’t going to last? tommy was a plot device? they didn’t know until last minute if they were gonna do it with buck or eddie iirc? tommy literally got buck basketball tickets for their 6 month anniversary, when buck hating basketball was one of the reasons bucktommy even became a thing? and ur…mourning a queer relationship talking about how it’s HOMOPHOBIC to break them up? i’d actually say keeping buck in a relationship he wasn’t appreciated/heard/seen in is homophobic and dumb. like it was HIS FIRST KISS WITH A GUY AND NOT TWO SECONDS LATER THEYRE DATING. like let buck explore and enjoy??? it’s also so unrealistic to make them endgame when, again, ITS BUCKS FIRST QUEER RELATIONSHIP. *blank stare* be so serious rn. don’t even get me started on how fucked up them getting together was after the shit tommy pulled by leaving buck, WHO JUST REALIZED HE WAS QUEER, on the curb after their first date bc buck didn’t come out in the middle of the restaurant to his best friend and his gf. as if tommy himself wouldn’t understand EXACTLY how buck feels or why he would panic and not tell eddie like. *wide eyed blank stare*

[arodabi]

I think a lot of alloros fundamentally misunderstand how being aro actually feels

I don’t go about my day as a hetro person who just happens to opt out of romance when it pops up

I’ve known i was different since before i even knew different was something i could be. Since i was like 12 or 13 I’ve known somehow what i was feeling was off compared to everyone around me. Growing up like that was fundamentally a queer experience for me, even if i wasn’t trans. In fact, i feel like my experiences being aro tie me closer to being queer than even my gender. While i can’t relate to everything in them, other queer coming of age stories do mirror my own aro coming of age. So to say that an aro person, regardless of their other identities, can’t be queer is just baffling to me.

[qjaiden]

like cup was saying it is freakish about sapnap looking to fight someone to genuinely hurt them and i do not think they should allow them to fight at all. its clear sapnap has malicious intent and it doesnt feel like it should be green lighted based on that solely. creator clash is supposed to be fun and a little messy but not like that

[firewasabeast]

What’s wild is reading discourse and then realizing it only exists within a small group of fandom. Like, I watch a lot of other shows as a general audience member and I never see any discourse for those shows. I’m sure it exists, but I know nothing about it and I enjoy those shows for what they are. There are MILLIONS of people who watch 911, enjoy it for what it is, and know nothing about buddie, or people denying Tommy’s existence, or people saying the show is queerbaiting, or stupid lies made up about fights over tomatoes. I yearn to be one of those people.

[quillthrillswriting]

i'm sorry, but the atla fandom is the only place where i've ever seen people unironically use a 12 year old telling his friend that killing someone out of grief is maybe a rash decision and not healthy to argue that that same 12 year old is being controlling and is an unhealthy partner

you guys know that murder is like....a bad thing....right? especially for a 14 year old? you guys know that revenge murder isn't a healthy strategy? you guys know that anyone who would encourage that is probably actually the unhealthy one in that scenario...right??

[justarandomhelluvablog]

"Why do Asmodeus and Beelzebub get to be good people while Mammon is flat-out terrible?"

Because greed can't be good. Bottom line. You can make arguments for lust and gluttony not being inherently harmful, but not greed.

The very basis of greed is intense desire for something (not just money) with disregard for others. You can be lustful and still love (ex, feeling sexual desire for your partner). You can be gluttonous and still be responsible (ex, going out to a party on your weekend). But you cannot be greedy and care about others.

Being the embodiment of greed inherently means you cannot care about other people. That's why Ozzie and Bee get to be Ozzie and Bee. That's why Mammon will only ever be Mammon.

[anonymous-dentist]

Certain Realm Fans immediately labeling trPangi as trRos’ “older brother” as soon as he decides to stop manipulating and gaslighting her because they think it’s impossible for men and women to be friends and that they’re always “family-coded” if they aren’t in a romantic relationship, because they also call trSneeg and trClown Ros’ older brothers and trFoolish her dad figure and trBad a dad figure and.

Isn’t it all a bit stupid? Do these people see men and women being friends in public and automatically assume they’re family or dating?

[bvcktommy]

i've never met a fandom as cruel and mean spirited as b*ddies before. insane how someone can rt a fanvid for a ship they despise, make fun of it relentlessly despite op asking them to leave them alone, bully op into going priv, and then treat it like it's some kind of victory. and all the other buddies dgaf or call it out they're just laughing like haha guys you cant take a joke. you people are obsessed with living out your high school bully fantasies and it's disgusting. there is darkness in your souls the likes of which have only ever been found at the bottom of the mariana trench, no light could ever possibly reach the depths at which you have fallen.

[nquesoxlies]

It took Bobby dying, a helicopter chase, Tommy tears and a Yahoo interview to knock off buddie goggles....