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annachum · 7 months ago
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Thinking how Monsieur and Madame Thenardier hate themselves so much, that they abuse and neglect their own children especially after the Thenardiers got bankrupt, because their own kids look like a mix of both Monsieur and Madame Thenardier in spades
And that contributes to Eponine's self loathing arc cuz she has a striking resemblance to her biological mother, whom she despised. Sometimes Eponine can't bear to look at her reflection because her self hatred made her believe she was ' ugly '
It wasn't until the Thenardier sibs began to receive kindness from outside the Thenardier circles did they realize that they aren't in fact ugly, and Eponine realizes that she is beautiful in her own way.
Meanwhile Cosette, who believed that her mother was an angel from Heaven for most of her life, and after an intensive healing period, she came to believe herself as ' pretty ' because of how her mother's goodness lived through. Only to later on realize that her mother is actually a flawed, messy but ultimately good person. That is going to be a shock for Cosette at first since she placed her mother at such a high pedestal, but she came to understand and accept her mother even more
Thinking how Eponine thought herself as a ' devil ' due to self hatred. But the truth is she is a deeply flawed but fundamentally good soul who needs healing.
Thinking how, since adoption, nearly everyone around Cosette coddled and overprotected her and viewed her as a pure, innocent angel. But Cosette is also wild and brave at heart. And as much as she is grateful and appreciative of the nuns, Valjean and Marius, I believe a part of her also wants to go about and explore more after the June Rebellion, just as a reconciliation for her soul. There is a foundation of wildness and bravery in her.
Thinking how Eponine literally can't forgive herself for bullying Cosette in the past for a time, only for Cosette to already forgiven Eponine and Azelma and grieved for their misfortunes. I bet Cosette also mourned for Eponine's death, not just out of trauma survivor solidarity, but of the life Eponine could have had if she survived.
Thinking how Eponine built walls as a survival mechanism, only to realize that there is power in softness too
Thinking how Cosette clung onto pacifism and embracing ' ladylike virtues ' as a coping and surviving mechanism, only for her to become much braver as the June Rebellion goes on - not in a warrior's way, but in a more pacifistic activist way, as she came to do charity work and then helps nurse Marius back to health
I think there is also an element of frustration here in Cosette that how everyone else seem to shield her from darker aspects of things in fear of breaking her heart even more. While they do mean well, Cosette would have understood more if the truths are more revealed to her. Valjean and Marius are so scared to push Cosette away if the darker truths are revealed....but Cosette still loves and cares for them anyway and forgives them for such trespasses. She just wished she was told of these things sooner.
These 2 really need healing, and deserve better
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thatlegallyblondebitch · 4 months ago
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ok this is my second time typing this because tumblr hates me but here are some of my takes on Les mis after seeing it for the 8th? 9th? time live
1. stop with the cosette hate! ok so in everyday/heart full of love reprise, Marius is depressed because all his friends are dead and cosette says “don’t think about it”. BUT PLEASE REMEMBER this is a girl who spent most of her early childhood being heavily abused, most of which she seemingly blocks out (i.e. when talking to JVJ she says “in your eyes I am just like a child who is lost in the woods” versus “still just a child who is lost in the woods” - remember, they meet when she is a child lost in the woods, which is why JVJ looks at her like that. so therefore, she presumably doesn’t remember/blocks out her trauma.) and she also moves around quite often in childhood with no warning. she grows up without friends or real stability. the only thing she has is JVJ, who she loves. So yes, when Marius is traumatized, of course she’s going to tell him to not think about it and just focus on the good/what you love because that’s literally what she does.
2a. Marius is not a pencil pusher! stop making him one! he has some harder edges - he is literally in a revolution. yes, he is soft for cosette, but he still is a revolutionary (by musical standards). so when Javert asks for a witness in Confrontation/Robbery, it makes no sense that he would volunteer. yes, he is down bad for cosette, but I don’t think it makes sense that he’d be like super excited willing to talk to the police.
2b. Never EVER have him give the Thenardiers money in wedding (this varies Marius to Marius). they were horrible to his dead best friend. they are trying to blackmail him. he just fought in a revolution, he’s not going to take it lying down and pay them. he’s gonna beat the shit out of them. and not throw money at them after.
3. The Thenardiers are everyone’s favorite and I do love them but the more I see the show and/or think about it too long, the more I genuinely hate them. they are horrendously abusive to cosette and eponine. like they are just genuinely bad people. the interesting thing about the show is that everybody is doing what they think is right/morally upstanding from their set of morals, even though these different sets clash. Everyone has some sort of redeeming quality in that way, except for them.
4. This show is also built on parallels/mirrors in the characters - or at least the core 7 (JVJ, Javert, Fantine, Marius, Cosette, Eponine, Enjolras). the JVJ/Javert one is obvious (godliness - what is right by the standards of god), but there are tons between Fantine and Cosette, Fantine and Eponine, and JVJ and Marius, and a bunch of other pairings. I could expand but I am tired of typing rn and I want to see what other people see/think. the music and motifs are good giveaways for some, but others are more subtle.
anyways I could make like 55 more points about this but these are just what I think are the most important and that I can think of rn.
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barricadeday · 2 months ago
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Welcome to the Les Mis Barricade Day Fanwork Event! (June 4th-7th!)
What is it?
Every year on June 5th, the Les Mis fandom celebrates the anniversary of the novel's rebellion.
This fanwork week will give creators daily prompts to help inspire ideas. Then creators can tag their work with #barricade day event, and we will reblog their work on each day of the event!
When will it happen?
Rather than an entire week, this event will take place over four days. These four days reflect the four important days of the rebellion in the novel:
June 4th: The eve of the rebellion ("One Day More")-- Eponine standing up to her father while defending Marius/Cosette
June 5th: The building of the barricade
June 6th: The fall of the barricades, the death of Les Amis
June 7th: the aftermath of the barricades, and the death of Javert
Okay, but what are the prompts?
That's where yOU come in, random citizen! We need to come up with some prompts fast so people can spend a month working on stuff! Each of the four days will be themed to the four stages of the barricade, as I mentioned. But we'd also like to have a more specific art/writing prompt for each day to help give people ideas! We'd like for each day to have both a "quote" prompt and an "symbol/motif/object” prompt. (You can submit quotes from the novel, the musical, or any other adaptation. They do not actually have to be a quote from this section of the story, as long as they can apply to this section of the story.) For example: for June 6th, you can suggest the quote prompt "Permets-tu?" and the object prompt of a flower (because in the novel the National Guard hesitates to shoot Enjolras because it seems "like shooting a flower.") Submit as many ideas as you like by sending a message to our askbox--submissions close in One Week! And the final prompt list will be revealed soon after! We want to give people plenty of time to work on their projects!
Happy creating! Let's put on the biggest talent show this town's ever seen
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jolys-cane · 1 year ago
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TOUR THOUGHTS
Saw the Les Miserables Tour at the Princess of Wales Theatre in Toronto on May 21 2024; here are my thoughts (Long read, sorry I have a lot of feelings)
Prologue/Look Down/Valjean's Soliloquy
We got like, holographic waves crashing and the men are rowing a boat LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE it's awesome
Oh my god the pipes on the background actors were so good. THE SUN IS STRONG ITS HOT AS HEEELLL BELOW
I miss Javert's stupid guard hat. Was bareheaded as he gave Valjean his yellow ticket
PETIT GERVAIS?????????? Valjean steals a little boy's coin when he's roaming the countryside 😭
Randy Jeter as the Bishop blew me away. Not just his voice but his acting was FANTASTIC every single movement was like. I am an old bishop. This is how an old bishop moves. Idk idk it was really good
Nick Cartell did a great job w Valjean overall, but I totally loved him as pre-MsurM Valjean the most. He acts like a feral animal, grabbing the wine out of the nun's hands and the bread from the priest all hunched over and practically snarling - very very cool and awesome
At the End of the Day
Not a negative but when we went to At the End of the Day there was very minimal lighting and my first thought was Oh no the lighting broke hope they fix it and we don't have to have a brief intermission but then when they went 'At the end of the day there's another day dawning' the lights went up and I was like OHHHHHHHHHHHH so that's just me not understanding lighting direction
Foreman killed it, so did all of the factory workers I love all the interactions and ad-libbing in the background it makes me so happy to see
Every time I saw a tall graceful ensemble member I was like '"That's Kyle Adams" and 8/10 times I was right. Otherwise it was Daniel Gerard Bittner
I Dreamed A Dream
OKKKK VOCALS???? Haley Dortch has such a beautiful, clear, emotional sound and she left not a dry eye in the house. Literally the second intermission hit my parents and myself were like. Holy shit dude what about that Fantine
I got her autograph after the show and she was so so sweet 🥺 She accidentally messed up her signature and had to redo it and was apologising to me and I was like GIRL you brought the house down you could stab me right now and I'd be like 'Thanks have a good one'
Lovely Ladies / Fantine's Arrest
Bamatabois (David Andino) was a standout performance, really chewed the scenery and I adored every second he was on stage (Plus his costume was fantastic)
The other girls defending Fantine 🥺
I like that after the police show up and they basically arrest all of the ladies and pimps, regular well-off citizens come out to witness Valjean defending Fantine from Javert. Thought it was a nice touch
Fantine's Death
My first and only cry of the evening, Haley Dortch no one does it like you
The Confrontation
If you've heard me talk about the confrontation you'll know that I absolutely hate the new chain choreography, HOWEVER. I really really liked it this time. Preston in particular gave it a lot of physicality that I enjoyed
Nick Cartell is a little guy and I don't really believe that his Valjean managed to knock out Preston's Javert
For some reason the percussion was really loud and I could barely hear the vocals so I don't have many thoughts on them
Master of the House / Waltz of Treachery
MATT CROWLE YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS
Both Thenardiers were fantastic, not a crazy amount of ad-libbing but when they did they made it count ("BYE, BAGUETTE")
Madame in particular was hilarious
Master of the House is very busy in a good way, everywhere you look interesting things are happening. Another number where the ensemble shines and you can tell everyone is having a blast
The Bargain was funny as hell, Thenardier tells Cosette to die in his arms and she goes limp when he's saying she's 'often been ill'
Valjean gives Cosette Catherine!
Look Down / The Robbery
Gavroche was super charismatic and confident, really great child actor (Milo Maharlika)
Eponine tosses Marius' book across the stage and he goes "I like the way you always ... tease 😐" They're such cute friends together
After Enjolras and the boys are done their preaching Enjolras gets stopped by a policeman and is told off 😭
During the robbery Montparnasse keeps Marius away by brandishing his little knife at him which I thought was cute
Also! Montparnasse is the only member of Thenardier's gang to escape during the Robbery!!! Which is a nice Brick reference
After Thenardier's 'In the absense of a victim' spiel he does this exact pose
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Gavroche's little 'Clear the streets' 🫡moment is so cute
Stars
God I love Preston Truman Boyd
His Javert is so stalwart and reserved and dedicated, he's kind of robocop and it really really works, and you get to see just a smidge of vulnerability peek out in this song
ABC Cafe / Red and Black
I DON'T REMEMBER A LOT bare with me
Grantaire was absolutely the standout. Slapped Marius' butt with his coat. Stuck his wine bottle dick in Enjolras' face. Offered Combeferre a sip of his wine (who reluctantly accepted). Blew a kiss at Enjolras
Kyle Adams physicality is probably my favourite aspect of his Grantaire - he moves very assuredly, like a cat, in a way that is like okay he's drunk but he's so used to being drunk that his stumbling is more like dancing. I remember reading a fic that described Grantaire's movements in a similar way and I wonder if that was one of the fics Kyle took inspiration from?
OOH they did the wine bottle keep-away thing with Grantaire and Marius which I didn't know they still did so that was exciting
J.T Wood is such a cute Joly I love his voice
In Do You Hear the People Sing Grantaire grabs a gun and holds it at arms-length like it has cooties before handing it off to another student
Combeferre waves the flag both times (Here and in One Day More) and I'm not sure if it's always Combeferre who does that or if it's because Andrew Marks Maughan is clearly the most physically strong of the Barricade Boys
In My Life / A Heart Full of Love
Delaney Guyer is a really good Cosette in that she has a gorgeous voice and also has a lot of personality and actually reacts to things going on around her
Marius (who was played by Christopher James Tamayo for this performance) is such a cute little nerd. You can see him try to figure out what he's going to do, then he throws a rock at Cosette's window and kind of cringes at the noise - he's so unsure of himself and awkward
Cosette is very excited that he's here and closes the window right away, which prompts Marius' 'I'm doing everything all wrong!' until she reappears downstairs and they get to be cute dorks in love
Attack on Rue Plumet
I don't remember a lot but I DO remember that Eponine was really good here
When Valjean is like 'Tomorrow we'll away' Cosette goes 'WHAT? NO!'
David Andino is so good as Babet he is a chronic scene stealer at this point
One Day More
If you know Another thing about me you know I hate the One Day More box-step but it actually did not bug me this time. They put Grantaire next to Enjolras for the marching portion which is cute
On My Own
Holy shit Mya Rena Hunter delivered the most heartbreaking and powerful rendition of this I've ever heard
The Barricade
Loved Feuilly in his little part
Javert is a good spy. If I didn't know the plot of Les Mis I would've been like Holy shit that's Javert? Crazy. I love him drawing the 'plans' he'd overheard into the ground with a stick
Gavroche flipping Javert off >>>>>
Buff Combeferre is one of the two to drag Javert away to be tied up lol
A Little Fall of Rain
The only version of ALFoR that actually made me feel something
Marius and Eponine get a lot of time to be cute together before the barricade actually notices that she's dying - and Gavroche is the first to notice and gets a front row seat to her death which is heartbreaking
The First Attack
Grantaire's "AND SO THE WAR WAS WON!" was sooo scathingly sarcastic
Javert waited, like, 30 seconds to leave after Valjean freed him, with his back almost against the barrel of Valjean's gun as if he were hoping to be shot
When the gun went off the entire barricade abruptly snapped their heads to look at Valjean and the audience laughed 😭
Telling Valjean 'Well done' for shooting a tied up hostage is a strange choice
Drink With Me
I still hate 'For certain as the eagle flies' I think it's the dumbest line in the entire musical
Grantaire's part was very grand - His voice has like noticeably changed at this point in the musical to give it a sort of hoarse hopeless quality to it which absolutely hits you in the feels
Enjolras comforted him and I swear Grantaire let his hand linger on his cheek for a few seconds longer than normal before pushing him away
Gavroche hugged Grantaire from behind and Grantaire couldn't even turn around at first because he was so distraught and kind of blindly reached for him 😭
Chris Tamayo's Marius is such a poor little meow meow
Bring Him Home
Absolutely jaw-dropping performance from Nick Cartell
He sings Bring Him Home like it's a lullaby - which it's supposed to be
I don't exaggerate when I say that the applause went on for about a minute straight, and was the loudest of the night by far
Death of Gavroche / The Final Battle
Oh poor thang
Grantaire near the end of Gavroche's singing was turned away facing the audience like he knew Gav was going to die and couldn't bear to watch 🥺
Later on in the final battle Grantaire spends most of the time next to Gavroche's body in like a catatonic state
The SPOTLIGHTS representing BULLETS as Les Amis died almost made me lose it
Grantaire dies last, I'm sure he said something before he started climbing the barricade but I couldn't hear it 😭He and Enjolras still have their moment over Marius' body
The Sewer
Javert comes across Enjolras' cart-carried body (Still hate the cart but I can learn to appreciate it) and looks a bit uncomfortable
Then he stumbles upon Gavroche's corpse, kneels, and does the sign of the cross over him
Almost made me cry ngl
DOG EATS DOG WAS SO GOOD I LOVED IT
Javert looked like he wanted to shoot Valjean as he walked away with Marius
Javert's Suicide
HOOOOOOLYYYY SHIIIIITTTTT
It was so good
Preston Truman Boyd you will always be famous I fully believe that Javert had completely lost his mind at this point in the play
I don't have many thoughts on the rest but I loved Marius and Cosette reading Valjean's confession as he walked away with Fantine - and the Bishop hugging him as he arrives in heaven
Also Kyle Adams as Major Domo mincing about the stage in The Wedding was an absolute delight
Am very sleepy now but overall 10/10 I love this cast so much
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crepes-suzette-373 · 5 months ago
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Vive la Révolution
For, like, the only 5 people who likes my insane theories: My new theory is what if 300 years ago what Germa did was organise a revolution? Basically like Dragon.
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What if there was never a conquest, but they convinced all of North Blue to work together to rebel. Then Germa being the instigator was hit by the World Government and destroyed. This scared all of the other kingdoms, and they all immediately washed their hands off. The Germa survivors got offended by this, and vowed revenge ever since.
I just don't believe that the Germa from 300 years ago that were destroyed were truly evil because it's the World Government saying it. The WG spread absolute nonsense lies about Kuma and Robin. Their crimes were either knowing too much or going against the WG. What if Germa was both?
They called Kuma a tyrant, even though the one who was the tyrant was the previous king. They didn't care when Doflamingo was basically a tyrant in Dressrosa. They didn't care when Crocodile was messing up Arabasta. So this is likely because WG knows of Kuma's activities as part of Dragon's revolution.
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Maybe they called Germa "evil" just because they were an even bigger revolutionary army than Dragon, you know? They called Dragon "the worst criminal", and what he did is peanuts compared to literally conquering an entire 1/4 of the world (or, organising a rebellion alliance that spans an entire 1/4 of the world, if my theory is correct).
All we hear is that what they did was terrifying (from Brook), and they were "synonymous with evil". What was it that they did? Nobody has told us clearly. "Conquering other kingdoms" doesn't really explain much.
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Like it was vaguely implied that because it's "conquest by military power", maybe they killed a lot of people, but they said the same thing about Robin, so I don't trust this so-called "history".
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Plus, in chapter 1066, titled "Will of Ohara", sensei made a point to have the "66" flags on the cover. Yeah, it's just a continuation of the cover story, but he could've chosen to angle it a different way, or insert the Pudding kidnapping here. So Oda-sensei displaying the "Germa 66" flags on chapter 1066 seems like he's being very deliberate with this.
So, I'm curious if WG demonised the past Germa to hell and beyond because they know more than Ohara's people. Or if they really organised a mass-scale revolution. Maybe both.
And maybe it's just that they don't see the current form as being a threat whatsoever, so they don't particularly care now. Judge sacked 4 kingdoms and WG did nothing. They don't care until the Whole Cake situation, because Big Mum is a yonkou.
And on the subject of the "revenge"... Unless Judge is lying or himself got lied to by someone (his parents or whoever, like how Higurashi manipulated Orochi), it seems like Germa has always wanted revenge against the other North Blue Kingdoms. Below, I had retranslated the page with Big Mum from the raw directly, since the details were lost in the official translations. It strongly implies that this revenge had to do with avenging the ancestors, or defending their honour in some other way.
So what did the other kingdoms do to the Germa ancestors??? It would make sense within my theory, though, if the North Blue kingdoms were all supposed to be allied together.
If, maybe after the destruction the Germa mainland the other kingdoms refused to help out of fear of WG, maybe that's why Germa wanted revenge.
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Another thing is that I've previously mentioned that I thought it was really interesting that the only 2 Germa servants that has names were named after Les Misérables characters, Cosette and Eponine.
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This makes the "66" really curious to me. Even though in the story 66 supposedly stands for Germa Empire being defeated after 66 days, in their name this is not read as Sixty Six, but Double Six. The "barricades" in the climax of Les Mis is the June rebellion of 1832, which was defeated in June 6. 6/6, Double Six.
So what if similarly, Germa is a "rebel alliance" that was defeated after 66 days?
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pyromaniacbibliophile · 9 months ago
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Stars (Eponine and Euphrasie)
For LesMisOctober24
Eponine has always loved the stars. They were her escape. She used to climb onto the roof and look at them for hours. She brought Euphrasie up there once. It was nice. 
After that it was her and Euphrasie’s special place. They used to climb up there every night. One night it was so windy that the two small girls were nearly blown off. It was the scariest thing that had happened to either of them. 
They still went back the next night.
When Euphrasie left it was different. The stars didn’t seem right without her best friend lying next to her. She tried to think that Euphrasie would still be looking at the stars wherever she was but it didn’t help. Eponine never pretended to be anything other than selfish when it came to Euphrasie. 
By the time Gavroche was old enough to climb they were on the streets. Dad never wanted them in the house anyway, so they were kicked out. Of course, any money they made would go straight back to her parents, but apart from that they were alone. Alone and free. 
It wasn’t too hard, in the heart of Paris, to find a fallen down house. After that it was easy enough to take brick after brick and hide them away in their alley. Cement was easily stolen from the builders. Glass was a luxury but it could be found in the Seine without too much work. 
Eponine found a battered old meadow just across the bridge. She set Gavroche to mudlarking while she stirred cement and placed bricks. By the time she had built what resembled a tiny house her and Gavroche’s hands were cut to pieces yet they had shelter and enough glass to make a few windows dotted around the structure. 
Sleeping on bricks wasn’t fun, but the siblings coped until Eponine could steal enough fabric scraps to make their floor into a nest. One day, when hanging around the dressmakers, she met Marius. 
Marius who was a naive student with old money and an apartment falling around his ears. 
Marius who liked her brother and didn’t frown on her for stealing. 
Marius who introduced her as ‘my best friend’ without shame. 
Marius who she might be falling in love with, just a bit. 
Only she never takes him to look at the stars.
Then he comes to her all excited, talking about this girl he’s seen in town. Eponine knows the signs well enough and smiles even while her heart breaks. Marius is in love. Gavroche, now a teenager, asks if he should punch Marius or find his new girl and ‘rough her up a bit’.
Eponine tells him not to, she always does. It’s nice to have someone to defend you, though. 
He says her name is Cosette. Eponine learns a lot about Cosette over the next month. She’s beautiful and sweet and clever and so many other things. Eponine carefully doesn’t think about how Marius thinks she doesn’t know anything because she’s poor. Doesn’t think about how she could never be ‘sweet’. Doesn’t think about the fact that she isn’t beautiful. 
She is taken to meet Cosette, Marius so excited he’s buzzing. They wait on a park bench until She arrives. 
Then she actually does arrive and Eponine is whisked back to the times when she had a best friend like a sister: Lying on a cold roof looking at the stars and talking about everything and nothing. 
“E-Euphrasie?” 
She’s having a similar reaction, Eponine guesses, as recognition flashes and Euphrasie runs forward and squeezes the air out of her. 
“Eponine oh Eponine is it really you I missed you so much my name’s Cosette now though oh Eponine!” words are tangling in Eponine’s ears but she knows she’s smiling like she rarely does. 
Marius is watching, slightly bemused. He sits down and looks up at the stars. They’re very bright tonight.
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@lesmis-prompts hope you like, I have Plans to do more :)
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personality-corner · 1 year ago
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Eponine
INFP
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Note: Eponine is a really hard character to type. It seems like she has been typed as every feeling type under the sun, and then, a few thinking types as well. I almost typed her as ENFP, then I felt her Te was more inferior than her Si. This is based on the musical, not the book.
Dominant Fi (Introverted Feeling) / Inferior Te (Extroverted Thinking)
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Eponine tends to get lost in her own emotions, and tries to figure out how to deal with them. She becomes somewhat lost when Marius falls in love with Cosette, because she understands he cannot change his mind. She wants to find happiness, but to her, happiness seems like a lost cause, and she chooses to ignore her Te, and ultimately decides not to fight it. In the end, she does finds her happiness in death, as she and Fantine ask for Jean Valjean’s hand, in leading them to salvation. Her Fi constantly dwells on the fact that she is in love with Marius, and her personal love for him, is what causes her to selflessly defend him.
Auxilary Ne (Extroverted Intuition) / Tertiary Si (Introverted Sensing)
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Eponine likes to get lost in her head a lot when others are not around, hence the song “On My Own.” She has many ideas of a life where she and Marius live together, where Marius is in love with her, alot of which aren’t based in reality. When she is able to come back to reality, she concludes that she won’t be able to find the same happiness that Marius has with Cosette, based on experience she has had, and it’s what she’s known. Even in her death, she asks Marius to wrap his arms around her, so she can pretend she died in his arms.
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khihi · 2 years ago
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As a french person who read les misérables at school but has never watched the movie/musical, I'm quite curious about what has attracted many (foreign) people to it. Feel free to rant and share your thoughts, I'm genuinely curious
OH GOD OKAY LOOK HERE'S THE THING FIRST OF ALL the musical is absolutely incredible. I'm a musicals fan in general but les mis is something else. It will make you cry and laugh and somehow it will also make you proud to be French even when you're not French.
Long rant/fucking essay under cut so I'm not bombarding everyone who doesn't care about musicals or dead French dudes
I wish everyone could watch a live performance of it as their first experience of les mis because I feel like most people only see either the movie or the 25th anniversary concert. And while I adore the 25th anniversary concert and I'm a Les Mis 2012 Movie Defender 4 lyfe, I think both of those won't anchor you into enjoying les mis quite as much as an actual, professional live performance of the show will (bc the anniversary is mostly just standing and singing and the movie is.. flawed).
Also I imagine your first experience of it being the brick probably would not help you see why foreigners love this story so much because that thing is CHONKY and I've absolutely not read all of it - I've literally only read bits of it that include my faves. Sorry Hugo but I'm not here to read your rant about Paris' sewage system, I'm here to read about Grantaire bullying Enjolras and laugh at Marius for crying against a tree for hours xx
Les Amis de l'ABC are the main attraction for me and I think a lot of les mis fans tbh. Their friendships combined with their doomed narrative is just the absolute best and worst, emotionally speaking thing. Just the fact they believe so strongly in wanting to change the world that they're prepared to fight and die for it but they're also just a bunch of super young guys who drink and laugh together makes my heart hurt. They're martyrs to a hopeless cause but they're so human.
It makes you want to see them happy and victorious (I know there are a lot of mundane college kids les amis fics out there where they're "all happy and nothing hurts" because of this) but also that doomed narrative is so delicious every single time (which is why me and other les mis fans come crawling back to rewatch the musical whenever we're presented with the opportunity).
And DO NOT get me started on ExR. Grantaire and Enjolras are THE most angsty ship in the world, they make me ill. Grantaire is so in love with Enjolras even though his depression makes him a lot more aware of just how fucked they all are in this revolution, he's like a moth to a flame. Also the guy who played Grantaire in the 2012 movie shipped ExR. George Blagden if you can hear me right now I owe you my life and I hate them for cutting your Drink With Me solo.
Also the female characters in les mis are SO FUCKING GOOD HOLY SHIT like yes Cosette and Eponine are both madly stupidly in love with Marius "Just Some Guy" Pontmercy but to me it always felt like Marius was their love interest rather than the other way around. He's the chain that links Valjean to the revolution and back to the Thénardiers, but Eponine and Cosette are both so much more interesting to me personally than him.
AND FANTINE?? Fantine who had her life torn to shreds and does everything in her power (of which she has NONE) to protect her little girl and is punished, like fucking everyone in the story, for being a good person?? but who is always shown to be a sympathetic character?? written in a time when women were possessions and prostitutes were seen as scum of the earth?? Once again it's emotionally catastrophic, but it's beautiful. I for one enjoy when stories reach into my chest and squeeze my heart to pulp.
ALSO I'm such a sucker for motifs and symbology and themes and all of that Good Literature Shit, which les mis has in buckets, so there's also that.
so yeah
tl;dr the characters are my babies, i love a masterfully crafted story, and the music makes me feel shrimp emotions. PLEASE SEE THE MUSICAL.
thank you for letting me infodump this fine sunday afternoon <3
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annachum · 7 months ago
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Some people really do be hating on certain characters who were very young and didn't know any better and were in bad situations that are largely no fault of their own/making mistakes but wisen up later on and works to make up for it
( Yeah looking at some of you for doing that )
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barricadeday · 2 months ago
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hi! for the prompts, could i suggest for June 4th Eponine's quote "there are six of you, but I'm the public" (from the Denny translation) and as an object a wolf/dog (from her calling herself the watchdog + daughter of a wolf), all of this from the brick scene where eponine stands up to her father.
For June 6th could I suggest "for each barricade that falls a hundred more will rise tomorrow" as the quote (this is my very quick translation of the line "pour une seule barricade qui tombe, cent autres se lèveront demain" from the french version of the dyhtps section of the finale, so reword it how you please), and the sun as the object (coming from the comparison of enjolras to apollo and the english finale lyrics "even the darkest night will end and the sun will rise"), could also debate these being aftermath of the barricades for June 7th.
also i don't have a quote for June 5th but could I suggest the/a revolutionary flag as the object (for m. mabeuf sjdjf and also because allegedly a flag being waved really kicked things off at the June Rebellion)
oooh, these are great suggestions!! I also was going to suggest the wolves/dogs imagery for June 4th! But yes, these are all great thoughts I will write down. If anyone else has prompt suggestions, the Prompt Suggestion Askbox will stay open for the next 12 hours! Depending on the amount of submissions, tomorrow I will either make some polls to choose the winning prompts or make a final "prompt graphic." Just like 21stCenturyjolly did, you can submit prompts for any of the 4 days--- June 4th (the day before the barricade when Eponine defends Marius and cosette from her father), June 5th (the barricades rise,) June 6th (the barricades fall), and June 7th (the aftermath of the barricades and death of Javert.) I've suggested sending in a "quote prompt" and an object/symbol prompt-- because quotes are easier for writers to build off, while Physical Objects tend to be easier for visual artists!
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halogenwarrior · 3 months ago
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It's been too long since I watched the musical but I don't think the book likes women, yes it treats Fantine and Eponine's situations with respect (and given the norm about how they would be viewed in the 1800s that is definitely worthy of accolades, it might count as liking women by the standards of its time) but it also has the narrative often interjecting to be like "women should center around having children, it's horrible for women to be celibates but male celibates are the coolest ever, heroic men get to care about helping downtrodden humanity in general but heroic women can only care about 1 close family member, devotion to whom is an exclusively feminine-coded trait, and they are universally cowardly when it comes to greater acts of heroism (i.e Bishop Myriel vs. his sisters, or the revolution being solely done by men with the women all hiding in the corner and freaking out about how rowdy men are except for Eponine who is only there because she is suicidal)" and never grants Cosette any closure to her relationship with Valjean or shows what she feels about him cutting her off, instead focusing it all on Marius.
Edit: Regarding comment about Eponine being "there to pine for (Marius)", while I would still vote no on the book I do want to defend book Eponine as having more to it than that, it's not about her life revolving around a man but about hopelessness and internalized bigotry due to poverty leading to elevating in her mind a more privileged person who seems for a second to acknowledge her as human, then being let down with that one hope she had when it turns out that was a fluke and he does view her as an object due to classism and misogyny after all.
Les Miserables
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Les Miserables (Theater, 1980)
Explain your reasoning in the reblogs!
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lesmisscraper · 6 years ago
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Brick... with animation!
35. The Dilemma
"A false address? What did you expect to gain by that?" "To gain time!" cried the prisoner in a thundering voice, and at the same instant he shook off his bonds; they were cut. The prisoner was only attached to the bed now by one leg. Before the seven men had time to collect their senses and dash forward, he had bent down into the fireplace, had stretched out his hand to the brazier, and had then straightened himself up again, and now Thenardier, the female Thenardier, and the ruffians, huddled in amazement at the extremity of the hovel, stared at him in stupefaction, as almost free and in a formidable attitude, he brandished above his head the red-hot chisel, which emitted a threatening glow. - Vol 3, book 8, chapter 20
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Thenardier. Jondrette told his true name to Leblanc. Marius was panicked. That guy threating Leblanc(and even his daughter Ursule farther) was Thenardier, who saved his father's life. Marius was in a dilemma. If he shoots his guns, his father's savior would kill or sent to a prison, that meant he disgrace his father. But if he didn't fire, Ursule's father would be tortured or even killed and Ursule also got in trouble.
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And, it was too late. Thenardier ordered Leblanc to write their address and called some of his gang and wife. They're going to rob Leblanc's house and harm his 'lark'.
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Mme. Thenardier and some ruffians got on a carriage and rushed to Leblanc's address.
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Meanwhile, the one head of Patron-Minette: Montparnasse the dandy, was on guard with Thenardier's two daughters.
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Soon, Thenardier's wife and ruffians returned, with empty hands. That was a fake address. Thenardier got in a rage and told the old man why he used that fake address.
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Just then, Leblanc stood up, breaking free his arms, and grabbed the fire poker Thenardier used to threat him. He blazed his skin with that poker to warn ruffians. Everyone in that room and Marius startled.
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He had a special sou with a saw inside. When he wrote a fake address to deceive the gang, he silently used that coin to cut the rope tied to his hands. He couldn't cut the rope from his legs because he would be caught.
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Marius had to make a choice this time. If the situation continued, both of Thenardier and Ursule's father would harm a lot.
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But then, he remembered what Jondrette girl left on his room before. The note written as "THE BOBBIES ARE HERE". If Marius used that note, he would make Thenardier and his gang run away, and save the father of Ursule, or 'the lark'.
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So Marius found that note, and threw it into the hole, to evacuate all inside of his next room before 'the real bobbies' arrived.
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annachum · 1 year ago
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I applaud those gentle, genuinely good hearted girls who try to do a right thing without having to resort to violence, but can defend themselves when needed ( like Cinderella, Christine and Cosette, for starters )
I respect those who rose from the ashes of chaos and became powerful, widely respected Queens/Empresses themselves ( like Persephone, Hurrem, Borte and Cleopatra VII, for starters )
I admire those who chose to maintain joyfulness despite all the shit they seen and been through ( like Ariel and Pinkie Pie, for starters )
I admire and respect those who strive to fight for what is right even though a number of people may seem to not agree with them ( like La Esmeralda, for starters )
I am drawn to messy yet poignant souled girls who work on the path of redemption ( like Eponine and Amy March, for starters )
I adore the rebels who strive to make a difference ( like Princess Leia, Merida, Elizabeth Bennet and Emmeline Pankhurst, for starters )
I respect and admire girls who chose to devote to family, yet never forget that they need to care for themselves too ( like Jane Bennet, Meg March and Millie from 7 Brides, for starters )
I LOVE LADIES WHO ARE TRULY STRONG IN DIFFERENT WAYS, OKAY
🤩🤩🥺🥺
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miserablesme · 4 years ago
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The Les Miserables Changelog Part 1: Barbican Previews
Hello everyone! I'm starting out a blog which will look at my favorite musical, Les Miserables, and will discuss the various changes it has gone through over time (musically and lyrically). As it turns out, a LOT of edits have been made over the years so this will doubtless be a series with several parts.
This first part may well be the most difficult and will almost certainly be the most incomplete, as previews can be a time of extensive editing and experimentation. At least for the first few weeks or so, it's perfectly possible any one day of previews will be slightly different than any other day. However, I only have access to two audios from the Barbican Theatre previews of Les Miserables, meaning it's likely that lyrical variants exist which I have no way of hearing.
I am aware of the existence of a third audio which is fairly early in the run of previews, as the tape's master has told me that Gavroche's death scene is in its original form (I'll clarify that later). However, that tape has never been traded, and has sadly only been listened to by its master. I am also aware of a video proshot of the Barbican era that exists in the Royal Shakespeare Company library, but currently have no access to it. I plan to inquire about whether I can look at it sometime (though I'm not sure a blog like this is "official" enough to warrant it for research purposes). As such, this comparison only entails the two widely circulated audios from the Barbican run.
Now that we've gotten that cleared up, let's get started!
First, let's look at the opening "Work Song". In the earlier recording I have (let's call it R1), the beginning music (the same tune used, for instance, at the opening of "At the End of the Day" and "One Day More" and for Marius and Cosette's meeting in "The Robbery") stops. Then, a few moments later, the more familiar opening that leads directly into the prologue begins. By the time of the later recording I have (let's call it R2), the scores have been combined so that the first tune directly transitions into the second one.
Meanwhile, in R1 there is a sequence of lines that goes as follows:
I've done no wrong
Sweet Jesus, hear my prayer
Look down, look down
Sweet Jesus doesn't care
I killed a man
He tried to steal my wife
Look down, look down
She wasn't worth your life
I know she'll wait
I know that she'll be true
Look down, look down
She's long forgotten you
Most fans of the musical recognize the middle sequence of lines ("I killed a man" through "She wasn't worth your life") as no longer being lines in the show (for good reason, as we'll get into in a later edition of this blog). However, R2 keeps the lines. Instead, it deletes the third sequence ("I know she'll wait" through "She's long forgotten you"). I have no idea if this lasted only a few performances or made it all the way to the end of the Barbican run, or somewhere in between.
During "On Parole", specifically after Valjean is underpaid for his labor and sings about his frustration, R1 uses a variation of the "Work Song" theme which, to my recollection, is heard nowhere else in the musical. It can be heard here. By R2, it was switched to an in-tune version of the number with a unique opening. The musical retains that version to this day, but in case you can't recall it you can hear it here.
Minus an unintentional line flub in "At the End of the Day" in R2, the two Barbican recordings seem to use the same libretto and score from this point until "The Runaway Cart". At this point, R1 has a rather extensive scene leading up to Valjean saving Fauchelevent, which goes approximately as follows (the dialog is difficult to make out):
(VALJEAN)
Is there anyone here who will rescue the man?
Who will help me to shoulder the weight of the cart?
I will pay any man thirty louis d’or more
I will do it myself if there’s no one who will
We can’t let him die like that down in the street
Can you all watch him die and do nothing at all?
(FAUCHELEVENT)
Don’t approach me, Monsieur Mayor
The cart’s not gonna be holding
Not my poor mother would care if I should die
(TOWNSPEOPLE)
Don't go near him, Monsieur Mayor
There's nothing at all you can do
The old man's a goner for sure
Leave him alone
Most of that dialog is deleted in R2, so that it goes directly from "Who will help me to shoulder the weight of the cart" to "Don't go near him, Monsieur Mayor". I really like the idea of the original version; it seems reasonable that Valjean, having become a more trusted man, would expect the townspeople to help him. It's more meaningful that Valjean is good enough to do what's right when there's more time to establish that no one else is. Having said that, the original version did take quite a while and didn't really contain any relevant information that wasn't in the final version. I think the cut version as heard in R2 is a good compromise and retains the general mood and pacing to make Valjean's ultimate action satisfying (something that can't be said of later cuts, as will be discussed in a future edition of this blog).
Additionally, at the end of the number Javert refers to "the mark upon his skin" in R1 and "the brand upon his skin in R2 (as well as literally every subsequent performance since then to my knowledge). I have no idea if the "mark" line was a minor flub or was actually the original lyric.
"Who Am I?" is an interesting one. The musical content is identical in R1 and R2, but in R1 after his high note, Valjean shouts "You know where to find me!" with emotion so dramatic it sits right on the border between awesome and campy. By contrast, Valjean is totally silent after his high note in R2. Neither version would see its final day just yet, although the latter certainly has become more traditional over time. More on that in future editions.
From this point until "Master of the House" everything is the same between the two recordings. Roger Allam even comes in slightly late in both "Confrontation" scenes (making his line "-jean, at last...")! However, in the opening to "Master of the House" the following lines occur in R1:
(THENARDIER)
My band of soaks, my den of dissolutes
My dirty jokes, my always pissed as newts
My sons of whores
Spend their lives in my inn
Homing pigeons flying in
They fly through my doors
And their money's good as yours
(CUSTOMERS)
Ain't got a clue what he put into his stew
Must've scraped it off the street
Hell, what a wine
Châteauneuf de Turpentine
Must've pressed it with his feet
Landlord over here
Where's the bloody man
One more for the road
One more slug of gin
Just one more or my old man is gonna do me in
All of those lines would be scrapped in R2. Personally I prefer this shortened variant than the one that would occur much later. Sure, some fun moments get lost, but nothing that actually adds any substance or characterization to the musical (unlike the later cut, which I'll discuss in a later edition of this blog). Some have speculated that this is simply lost dialog due to a tape flip of degrading, given that future performances would retain those lines. However, there is firsthand confirmation that the cuts were in fact part of the performance. To quote Trevor Nunn on page 87 of 1990's The Complete Book of Les Miserables (a page which elaborates that "the cost of overtime incurred after three hours could be crippling at a time when Les Miserables was still trying to find an audience"):
"Cameron wanted major cuts, which would have reduced its length to two and a half hours. I resisted, refusing to discuss things on those terms... Some of the other proposed cuts - like the removal of the "Master of the House" scene-setting preamble - were tried out in previews and then restored as the scenes would not work without them."
From a historical perspective that quote is invaluable. As will be brought up in a later blog post (notice a pattern today?) the musical would in fact be cut much later to avoid overtime charges. When people like myself have expressed the opinion that these cuts come at the expense of artistic integrity, I've seen others defend them by claiming that the overtime costs never were relevant to Cameron and the gang until Broadway sales began to go down, and that if they were taken into account the musical may well be in its shortened form from the beginning. However, this quote proves that argument to be false. Right from day one, the crew was aware that retaining a >3 hour runtime would come with severe financial costs, but this was deemed a worthy sacrifice in order to tell the story they wanted told. Indeed, it sounds like Cameron Mackintosh was waiting quite some time to enact his infamous cuts! (Cameron Mackintosh valuing profit above art?! Crazy, right??)
But I digress. Going back to the musical, the "Waltz of Treachery" number is mostly the same. However, after Valjean's "It won't take you too long to forget" line, R1 has over a minute of wordless vamping which leads right into the rather awkwardly-placed "Stars" song. By contrast, in R2 this vamping (which is still a minute long, mind you) leads into a humming duet between Little Cosette and Valjean, similar to the duet right before the number. A nice little bookend that makes the scene feel all the more resolved. (Much later this duet reprise would ironically be scrapped again, though!) The remaining segment of R1's vamping now plays after this sequence in R2.
Minus some unintentional missed lines at the beginning of "Stars" in R1, the recordings seem to follow the same libretto right up until "One Day More". Here, R1 uses the following lines:
(EPONINE)
One more day with him not caring
(MARIUS and COSETTE)
Was there ever love so true?
(EPONINE)
What a life I might have known
(MARIUS and COSETTE)
I was born to be with you
However, by R2 this scene is in its current form:
(EPONINE)
One more day with him not caring
(MARIUS and COSETTE)
I was born to be with you
(EPONINE)
What a life I might have known
(MARIUS and COSETTE)
And I swear I will be true
And that closes act one! Going on to the second act, the opening barricade scene has a few changes. First off, following the opening notes, R1 features a rather odd tune bearing resemblance to "Do You Hear the People Sing" (which can be heard here) before transitioning to a more true-to-form instrumental reprise of "Do You Hear the People Sing?" By contrast, R2 goes straight from the opening notes to the true-to-form reprise.
Next, Enjolras proclaims "Have faith in yourself and do not be afraid" in R1, while in R2 he instead states "Every man to his duty and don't be afraid". It's unknown if this was an intentional libretto change or if it simply reflects a flub during R1. A later sequence uses the "Have faith in yourself" line, meaning he may have just sung the wrong line for that particular scene.
Finally, R1 includes the following sequence (at least I think this is how it goes, since the lyrics are a little hard to hear):
(PROUVAIRE)
And the people will fight
(GRANTAIRE)
And join with you
Who gives a speech in the square
Fortunately, R2 uses a much less clunky (though still somewhat so) sequence:
(PROUVAIRE)
And the people will fight
(GRANTAIRE)
And so they might
Some will bark, some will bite
This isn't quite its current form ("dogs" and "fleas" will soon respectively replace the two usages of "some"), but it's pretty darn close.
I've heard that the very first Barbican preview(s?) didn't have a finalized opening to "On My Own". Sadly there is no known audio record of this, so I cannot comment on what exactly it began as. As such, the next major change takes place during Gavroche's death scene. This honestly is probably the biggest of all the changes between the two recordings. R1 uses the following death scene (in the tune of "Look Down" right up until the "So never kick a dog" verse, which is in the tune of "Little People"):
How do you do, my name’s Gavroche
These are my people, here’s my patch
Not much to look at, nothing posh
Nothing that you’d call up to scratch
Some fool, I bet, whose brains are made of fat
Picks up a gun and shoots me down
Nobody told him who he’s shooting at
He doesn’t know who runs this town
Life’s like that
There’s some folk
Missed the joke
That’s three, that’s three
That one has done for me
Too fast, too fast
They’ve got Gavroche at last
So never kick a dog
Because he’s just a pup
You better run for cover when the pup grows...
By contrast, R2 uses a much shorter variant which is set entirely to the tune of "Little People":
And little people know
When little people fight
We may look easy picking but we've got some bite
So never kick a dog
Because he's just a pup
You'd better run for cover when the pup grows up
And we'll fight like twenty armies and we won't give...
This is much closer to its current form, although the last two lines are inverted (we'll get to that in a later edition).
We now fast-forward to "Dog Eats Dog", which while recognizable is very different from the number we know today. The chorus of R1 claims that "It's a dirty great sewer that's crawling with rats", which R2 changes it to "stinking great sewer" instead. I'd definitely say the revised lyric better captures Thenardier's and the sewer's grossness.
Additionally, regarding Marius' ring, Thenardier originally exclaims that he "didn't mean to waste it, that would really be a crime". By R2, the line changes to "wouldn't want to waste it", which I'd say makes a lot more sense.
"Javert's Suicide" has changed a lot. R1 features the following remarks following "Vengeance was his and he gave me back my life":
Damned if I live in this caper of grace
Damned if I live in the debt of Valjean
I'll spit his pity right back in his face
Is this the law or has sanity gone?
(I'm a little unsure as to how accurate the final line is.)
By R2, the lines have been replaced with the current ones:
Damned if I live in the debt of a thief
Damned if I yield at the end of the chase
I am the law and the law is not mocked
I'll spit his pity right back in his face
In R1, the "Where's the new world, now the fighting's done" line is absent, and there is nothing but instrumentals in the segment where it is usually sung. By contrast, it is sung as usual in R2. My guess is that an actress simply forgot her line in R1 and it was always supposed to be there, though I can't say for sure.
The final change occurs at the wedding scene. The singing which opens the number is repeated in R1. By contrast, R2 has it sung once and then done with, as it currently is (and as it should be in my opinion, since the music isn't particularly pretty and contributes nothing to the plot).
Later in the same scene, R1 includes approximately this exchange (again, it's quite hard to make out the exact lyrics):
(THENARDIER)
I was there
Never fear
Even got me this fine souvenir
He was there
Her old dad
*indecipherable* and fleecing this lad
Robbed the dead
That's his way
(MME. THENARDIER)
That's worth five hundred any old day
(MARIUS)
I know this...
By R2, everything between "He was there" and "Any old day" were removed, which makes sense given that they essentially just rehash what was already said.
Finally, there's a subtle difference in the epilogue, specifically during the "Do You Hear the People Sing?" reprise. In R1, the ensemble sings "They will live again in glory in the garden of the Lord". R2 replaces the word "glory" with "freedom", and that word remains the one used to this day. I suppose "freedom" is more appropriate for the context of peace and prosperity. To many, I'd guess that "glory" conjures imagery of knights, battles, and the like; just the kind of violence that the characters wish to move away from! I have no idea if this was why the writers changed the lyric, but it's my hypothesis.
Towards the end of the show, the chorus in R1 sings "Even the darkest moon will end and the sun will rise". By R2, this is changed to "the darkest night". Makes more sense to me, since moons aren't known for being particularly dark!
And that just about sums this part up! If I missed anything feel free to let me know, as my goal is to create a changelog as thorough and complete as possible. I plan on making more parts in the near future covering all the changes that have been made in the show up until this day (discounting concerts). Any feedback and constructive criticism is very much appreciated.
As a side note, both for this project and my own enjoyment, I want as complete a collection of Les Miserables audios as possible. I already have most of what's commonly circulated, but if you have any audios or videos you know are rare, I'd love it if you DMed me!
Until the turntable puts me at the forefront again, good-bye...
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claireverlasting · 1 year ago
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Okay let’s go! (Enjoy my unhinged spelling hahaha)
Bishop myriel
Convecitonlist G—
Jean Valjean
Jeanne
Petit Gravis
Fantine
Tholomyes
Favourite
Daliah (there’s one right?)
Cosette
Javert
Monsieur Thanardier
Madam Thanardier
Eponine
Alezma
Gavroche
Gavroche’s brother (1)
Gavroche’s brother (2)
Bombomatis
Father Fauchelent
Sister simplice
The kid jvj didn’t give money to
Judge
Procecuter
Defendant attorney
Champaemeu
Mother innocent
Napoleon (does he count)
Ney (does he count)
Caboronne (does he count?!)
Wellington (at this point I’m just listing waterloo)
George Pontmercy
M. Gillmanour
Mademoiselle Gillmanour
Theodule
Nicolette
Marius Pontmercy
M. Malbeuf
Mother Plutach
Enjolras
Combeferre
Jean Prouvaire
Feuilly
Courfeyrac
Bahorel
Joly
Bossuet
Grantaire
Toussent
Montparnesse
Claquse
Boujon
Artillery agent
Mother houchup
Father houchup
Lebauc (does he count)
The person jvj saved on Orion
The barber who kicked Gavroche’s brothers out
The father with the kid at Lucinberg park
The kid👆
Person Gavroche stole a cart from
The baker Gavroche bought bread from
The porter who had to deal with jvj and javert
Bonus for the ones I don’t remember their names
Myriel’s sister
Myriel’s servant
The was a robber guy that gift stuff to Myriel or smt
The man that threatened to shoot jvj
The woman who told Jvj to knock at myriel’s door
Church person that jvj asked when he tried to find petit gavis
Tholomyes’ friends (3)
Fantine’s friend (1)
The woman that gossiped about fantine
The woman helping fantine
Another sister that was w sister simplice
M.madeleine’s door keeper (or whatever it’s called)
The person lending/selling jvj the um. 19th century equivalent of car
Witness 1 (or whatever it’s called)
Witness 2
Witness 3
The bishop or smt that was in charge of fantine’s buriel
The person in Monterifil that want the devil’s treasure
Door keeper of the Goulber house (jvj time)
The beatle (the one javert borrowed identity from)
Door keeper of the Goulber house (Thenardier time)
One more person from Patron Minette
Male servant of Gillmanour
Gavroche’s brother’s fake mom
Fake mom’s friend
Waitress at the Musain
Waitress from Corinthe 1
Waitress from Corinthe 2
Door keeper that get a doctor for jvj at the end
with bonus internet points to anyone who actually writes a list:
the definition of A Character is overall yours to determine, within the following parameters:
if a Person is Symbolically Nameless, they must have a known moniker to be considered A Character.
for the purposes of this list, A Concept is not A Character unless this is specifically indicated in the text.
misspellings are accepted and perhaps inevitable.
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lesmiserabby · 3 years ago
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For character ask, Eponine from Les Miz!
Ooh, this is an interesting one since I can still remember the Les Mis fandom around 2012/2013
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I was sort of on one side of the shipping war, in that I had a ship I liked, but at the same time my opinion was more "like what you want and leave other people alone, they're fictional characters why does it matter". In retrospect, I'm mad at the shipping thing as a whole. Yes, her life is hugely centered around a relationship with Marius and by extent Cosette (she bullied Cosette as a kid then Cosette gets the guy Eponine likes) but why does a happy ending for her have to be a relationship with Marius, Cosette, or someone else? I haven't really interacted with fandom in a couple years now so maybe it's changed and she's not getting paired off constantly, but yeah, I'd like to see more headcanons of Eponine stays single and finds hobbies that make her happy. Maybe she gets a pet. In the book there's that scene where she waters flowers, maybe she starts a garden, has a fun best friends garden thing going on with Jehan, that would be sweet.
Also, I have memories of people very aggressively pitting Eponine and Cosette against each other and flat out insulting Cosette just to raise Eponine up. And no. I'm not on board with that. I will defend Cosette to the end, even though back when I was engaged in fandom I mostly wrote about Eponine, because she was more relatable for teenage me (that has changed now that I'm an adult). Eponine is great, but she's not better than Cosette/more deserving of love/etc. Both are good and complex characters in different ways.
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