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lanaisdoe · 2 years ago
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No but Daemon had ALWAYS been super devoted to Rhaenyra, her cause, their family, their kids - even those that were not of him, he never differentiated between his and Nyra's kids and was set on having Jace as the heir... Daemon literally LIVED for his family, he ultimately never took anything for himself - not the throne, not the crown, wasn't going to put his blood on throne - he literally lived, killed and died for his fam.
HOW is that not daddy Daemon? How is that not hubby Daemon?!
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I'm looking at you WRITERS !! HOW?!
How is Hess saying she doesn't see it?! that she is shocked to see 'daddy daemon'?! How is Condal writing a choking scene - what an abomination, for real! I mean, was Daemon capable of monstrosities?! HELL YEAH ! Was he capable of monstrosities against his very own family?! HELL NO!
HOW. DO. THEY. REFUSE. TO. SEE. IT ? How?! At this point, it's just being dead set on villifying Daemon on their part + making Nyra a victim, i have no other explanations. Destroying GRRM's vision...
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HOUSE OF THE DRAGON S01E10: The Black Queen | dir. Greg Yaitanes
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dragonworshippersblog · 6 months ago
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tw. spoiler for hotd season two
so apparently cole felt extreme shame after he broke his vow with rhaenyra and her consequent rejection of his proposal that he wanted to commit suicide but now not only he is breaking his vow again by having a sexual relationship with alicent, he also decided to continue to have sex with her even after b&c despite the fact that he was the one in charge of being at Haelena's door. what is hilarious is that the negligence of his duties as kingsguard facilitated the murder of the king's heir, and yet instead of reasoning about his actions and the fact that he has failed as a kingsguard he is still insulting rhaenyra after twenty fucking years since their night together. what a loser
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alicentsultana · 7 months ago
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Reminding you all that Alicent is merciful and just. Reasons why she was also beloved by the smallfolk.
She doesn't want bloodshed beyond what is already happening.
"But she demands mercy to the enemy-"
She's doing what no one, mind you all, no one, would ever do if it was the other way around.
So I must remind you all who was offering her children justice, mercy, protection, weighing the damage when Aemond lost one eye? No one. Who was doing it for her when gollum was walking already decomposed? No one. They take and take and take, but she's the only one depressively clinging to her sense of justice, something denied to her and hers all the time.
"Ah but what about her grandson brutal death-"
We all know who came up with the idea in the first place. We also know that no mercy would be offered for them had they bend the knee or not, had Lucerys been alive, do you all think Rhaenyra wouldn't consider getting rid of her and her children at any point, especially with Daemon by her side.
Alicent Hightower is built different. She will cling to her mercy and justice till the moment it takes everything from her.
Because she believes in repent and forgiveness. Completely religious, but noble, kind, and selfless. Because to forgive is not to forget, but allow for another chance.
Something that her dear darling friend denied her time and time again.
She is sad, broken, unhappy, depressed, that's obvious, but she still can see past it all, she's ready to allow forgiveness. Her children are just as broken, but again, they too are quick to anger, and they are not wrong to want and seek revenge, but Alicent is not wrong to seek revenge as a last resolution, because that's not who she is.
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nikosdaydreams · 4 months ago
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phia saban: "i would not want to live in a world where either aegon or rhaenyra were ruling as both of them are batshit insane"
team "feminist" black: "OMG SHE JUST INSULTED OUR QWEEN RHAE RHAE!1! CANT WAIT FOR HER CHARACTER TO JUMP OUT THE WINDOW SO THAT SHES UNEMPLOYED!! PHIA IS ACTUALLY SO UGLY FOR DEFENDING AEGON SHE LOOKS INBRED!!!!"
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sunnysideaeggs · 5 months ago
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uuuuh okay thoughts about S2E1 (disclaimer: SPOILERS! and some unpopular opinions bc i WILL be criticizing alicent). most of these i had during my watch yesterday, and now i’m elaborating on them after more thinking about it. looooong post ahead
okay i liked the new intro. i will miss the blood pouring but i think the tapestries are a more visual way to convey targaryen history.
my favorite parts were the shot of vhagar and balerion in the field of fire(? idk they were eating men (green dragon black dragon !!!), the jaehaerys and alysanne portrait, alicent and rhaenyra and aegon and rhaenyra crowned side by side. beautiful.
also, the blood beneath the thread !!! targaryen history is written in blood. never forget this.
i dont particularly like jace being at the wall. it makes little sense to me, especially because the north is massive and i don’t think that cregan would like to make a procession to the wall just because a prince is there. i liked the tidbits though: jon going to the watch is a tradition he followed unknowingly :)
show me more political jace please, he’s cool.
‘surely torrhen would’ve rather died instead of bending the knee unless he believed aegon could bring unity to the 7K’ jace pls 💀
it’s funny that in one scene rhaenys and daemon had more tension and chemistry than all the scenes of daemon with adult rhaenyra. maybe what he needs is a GILF to put him in his place? lmao
LAENA MENTION LETS GOOOOO
‘make it a son for a son’ referring to aemond? alicent has no bone to pick here be fr i can smell bleach for the whitewashing a mile away
i also have issue with the writers’ choice of making rhaenyra ignore her physical needs and spend apparently days riding on dragon back and doing jumps and that when she just had a miscarriage. it’s canon that she was in bed rest for half a year because the loss of visenya took a toll on her body. it will be dumb and criticized if she’s fine to disappear for weeks but not to fight.
alyn velaryon? ok i’m mad bc corlys literally knows this dude is his son ???
i love how we all pretend that corlys and rhaenys were particularly interested in the strong boys. idk i can’t really care about that anymore
ow is helaena sewing alicent a dress? please tell me it’s not a shroud
AEGON APPEARED WOOO 🍳✨
‘where’s jaehaerys? where are his lessons?’ my man doesn’t know to what school his kids go lol
also he can recognize the twins apart with only seeing them :)✨ cute
aegon wanted jaehaerys in his council !!!! he’s making sure jae KNOWS he’s his heir and he’s on aegon’s mind
oh hel is comfortable enough with him to tell him about her prophecies, i’m just afraid that no one understand her
‘the rats’ NOOOOO
aegon is always like ‘😐❔’ around her lol
‘the queen is an enduring mystery’ he’s a poet i love him
alicole pussyeating but at what cost
why does criston has that empty look in his eyes, he had the same look in his scene with rhaenyra
where is all the raw emotion between them from last season? it’s giving cersei and lancel when it should be cersei and jaime. no deep gazes, no catholic guilt, something’s amiss
jaehaerys and egg </3 my feels they’re so cute
okay i have a bone to pick here because why is tyland being treated like a joke? i can get past jaehaerys toying with him because he’s a child, but aegon respected his allies (that’s a big part about him) and would never antagonize them in that way. it’s given rhaenyra and lady redwyne when we know both characters differ the most in the way they treat their subjects.
also, this is TYLAND LANNISTER, the most employed guy ever. he literally put his skin on the fire for his team, he’s loyal and he’s the best ally the greens could’ve asked for. if anyone is to thank for the death of the dragons, it’s him. put some respect on his name because this is the finance bro to end all finance bros.
also he’s always saying important things: the treasure in the green council, jason’s moves here. please listen to him!
another thing i dislike is the way important political moves are being brushed off. the treasure is a big big matter. it should be said explicitly what the council is doing about it being the focus of the scene. i’m sure most casual viewers didn’t catch that the comedic relief is making big money moves that will backfire later.
but anyways jaehaerys is so cute hehe
happy father’s day to aegon targaryen and aegon targaryen only
okay i’m rewatching the jaehaerys and tyland scene and i love tyland’s accent, and how polite he is to the little prince
go aemond in the council !!!
‘you do not have a seat in this council’ okay alicent please stfu. i disliked her demeanor since she was chastising aegon and tyland but this is too much. remember you do not have a seat either.
and no she doesn’t: she’s queen mother, not queen regent. aegon is an able adult and can rule without her help. i know the only council we had was with cersei but that’s because joffrey and tommen were under westeros’ age of majority. that alicent is there is out of aegon’s kindness and the council members’ respect.
also why would she be mad that the brothers are brothering ??? girl you wanted them to be on each other’s side
SUNFYRE MENTION LETS GOOOO
‘we must proceed cautiously’ i think all caution must be thrown overboard here. i know they want to portray A/R as the ‘voices of reason’ being pushed to war and all but sometimes violence is necessary to prevent more violence. what tywin said about murdering a dozen people in a dinner and a thousand in battle.
i’m tired of this aemond slander. he did it, but he’s innocent your grace
why larys kinda…
ok i love his voice
oh so now every move of alicent is seen by larys. she knows that he knows. neat.
why do the handmaidens wear green? they should wear gold ☀️
okay i initially thought syrax was sunfyre because of the pink of his wings. i hope sunfyre is golden smh
it’s neat that we remember than no matter what side we’re on, for the common people dragons are a source of fear and caution. the fishermen are loyal to rhaenyra yet they will run away from her when she’s on syrax because they don’t trust a dragon.
rhaenyra’s pain is so deep, i really empathized with her. absolutely devastating. her expression, her grabbing the cape, everything
emma is so fucking talented for real, making me feel for the death of a character i dislike
(oh how the mourning of a woman for her child will cause thousands of mothers mourning their children the same)
‘aegon the magnanimous’ when your homie gives you a ridiculous nickname
my boy sits and listens to his subjects, calls them by their names and tells them not to be afraid. hello jerard what can i do 4 u? :)
i love how egg is like ‘yea whatever take ur sheep jerard pls like me’
okay i dislike otto here. aegon is obviously into crowd pleasing (a secret tool that will be useful later) and for once it’s okay. jerard will go home with his sheep and be a diehard aegon supporter and raise his kids to be the same, tell his friends about the king’s generosity. i think otto should know better than to angry the population in time of war, even if you can’t make the flock whole, give the man grain or coin so he can feed his family and the effort of going to the king’s house.
hugh? like hugh hammer? ooooh
‘our victory depends on the efforts of the smallfolk’ close enough welcome back princess diana
another otto slander moment here. i don’t think it’s wise to chastise the king (an adult, mind you) and putting himself in between of aegon and the court like that. did we saw otto with viserys? he sat by his side and whispered his advice in a discreet manner. he didn’t try and strongarmed his king in front of dozens of people. that’s not a smart way of doing things. it’s called soft power for a reason
also, i think the directors were trying to make otto parallel tywin in that joffrey in the throne scene, but tywin was explicitly trying to get joffrey to be more involved in the council and the two were alone. give it to aegon, let him have his fun in public and manipulate him in private, that is the way. doing dumb shit like that only makes aegon look like a kid and otto like a shameless powergrabbing dude
one thing i appreciate is that aegon has his own court. he has his lads-in-waiting, he has a few ladies following behind, and that’s how a king should be. we always saw the royal kids isolated (joff, tommen, rhaenyra only had alicent) when in reality most important people will have a flock of people accompanying them every day.
now that’s what i’m talking about. larys is all about being subtle, honey trapping his way to power. that’s how the game of thrones is played. while aegon will not agree with him just like that (because larys gives him the oogies), i’m sure he will remember larys’ words.
‘as viserys wished’ oh don’t speak of him fuck what he wants
an ally would not sit there and cut her legs at the table of men? girl you do that yourself
alicent, the problem is not otto undermining you, is both of you yapping about shit aegon and aemond not care about and winning empty victories lol
aegon will probably forget about jerard next episode, but will not forget feeling his wings being cut by otto. aemond remained in the council room but will remember alicent wanting him gone.
i wish alicent and otto believed more on their kids/grandkids
mysaria apparition yay
‘you speak of highborn games, i am common born’ tell him girl
daemon don’t put your hands on women challenge: impossible
chemistry with mysaria? uuuuh
i love how everyone reminds erryk of arryk like ‘ayo where ur bro at?’ a matching set is not matching, it’s giving the parent trap
‘i want aemond targaryen’ okay at least she knows who to blame. i want to see more of vengeful rhaenyra, let women be mad
daemon going for aemond instead of for jaehaerys is such a cheap move smh, whitewashing at its finest
jaecarys and rhaenyra :(
is it too insensitive to say that jace’s hair looks great? you’re serving cunt? your brother just died and you’re serving cunt?
ow alerie florent :((((
FUCK VISERYS TARGARYEN
i really like the symbolic funeral. that shot of rhaena crying over the fire? chills
is it me or they changed joffrey’s actor? idk
uuuuh alicent idk if that’s empathy or weakness 🙃
once again i don’t think it’s neat that they show blood being a normal goldcloak. he was discharged dishonorably for femicide. be honest
cheese’s actor kinda looks like joaquin phoenix
‘i want aemond targaryen’ i hate this fucking show.
ROSBY AND STOKEWORTH MENTION LETS GOOO
criston agreeing with aemond in private but backing alicent in public is the medieval version of ‘yea kid ur right but i don’t wanna fight with your mom’
criston looks so tired :(
‘her grace speaks with two tongues’ SAY YOUR TRUTH AEMOND
it is vain to try and blame aemond for starting the war when the war was brewing since before he was born. rhaenyra wouldn’t give up her claim, daemon wouldn’t accept it. if rhaenyra ascended, the targtowers die. there’s not another version of this story
‘she holds love for our enemy, that makes her a fool’ that makes her a traitor. especially after the events of tonight. do we think rhaenyra has a designated green supporter that tries to get her to the green’s side? why would the greens have a rhaenyra cheerleader then?
gods forbid something happens and otto is not there 🙄 control freak
i like how they’re making aemond more rage-filled. careful ewan your book!aemond is showing
‘aegon the strong’ ‘my nephews have already taken that one’ but egg 💀💀💀
i really love how aegon has his court. he’s protected by the throne’s swords AND his homies got his back
the true king can sit however he likes. he lounges on the swords and they’re as soft as pillows to him. pretenders can’t relate.
in a deeper level, it shows how he’s comfortable both in the throne and surrounded by people. he has high trust. kinghood is a tool he doesn’t have any training on but he holds it like a natural
aegon truly trusts aemond. i love that for them. if they make aemond to be treacherous i’ll cry
AEGON THE DRAGONCOCK 🐲 rip leon estermont you would’ve loved shitposting
also why the ratcatchers are just walking around the keep? are they in the tunnels or in plain sight?
the kick to the doggie :( i really hope they didn’t really kick a dog for that
unrelated but i really need the rats around the red keep to mean something like larys skinchanging into them. they can’t be a red herring or just blood and cheese. they have too many shots
again, why are they out and about? isn’t it weird to see dudes in the middle of the night?
helaena’s maid looks like emma stone and she has really good eyebrows. i’m pretty sure she knows something (larys agent ofc)
how do we go from searching for aemond to threatening helaena? whyyyyyyy
oh right we had to blame the smallfolk for being soooo greedy and wicked and stupid that you tell them kill a great warrior and they kill a baby. because daemon can’t ever order a baby killed amiright?
the little beds noooooo :( baby jaehaerys
okay i was expecting more of helaena. in the books she’s described as pleading, begging, crying and so on. phia is killing it with the eye expressions but she looks stiff in comparison with only her necklace. even trying to bargain more (my husband can give you everything and more), some more tears, some stuttering would fit show!helaena’s too. that’s on the directors tho
i also dislike the choice that anyone can just barge in the room, literally they had to make the castle desert instead of blood and cheese waiting for hel in alicent’s rooms. i know someone is going to make the point of ‘why didn’t helaena scream or run?’ and yes partly. guess we had to slander alicent in another way right?
but alas, i am thankful that a prediction of the scene didn’t came true: no children being forcefully stripped. that would’ve sent me over the edge. they implied it but no child actors were harmed in this episode
omg the sounds of the head cutting and jaehaerys’ muffled sounds i wanna cry
helaena is so lost and the castle is a maze and nobody’s there and she’s lost lost lost and running with jaehaera i can’t
did she saw a vision there? when she stopped and went to alicent’s room
imagine going to comfort for your mom and she’s at it
‘return to your post lord commander’ why didn’t you criston? 🙃
also it didn’t pass me by that aegon has THREE kingsguards in addition to his four homies and his own sword. helaena had none. even if he was off duty and he’s sworn to alicent and not helaena, the lord commander is not commanding
THREE maids at the start of the episode doing absolutely nothing and none here? i’m so mad
‘they killed the boy’ :(((((
also why is helaena so disconnected? like why is she ‘able’ or is she in shock? i hope if they don’t make her go insane with pain like in the book she gets a revenge arc where she goes on dreamfyre, she deserves it.
i hope aegon kills them all.
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Daemon: If you see anyone--
Jon: Kill them...
Daemon: HIDE. If you see anyone, hide.
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asongofstarkandtargaryen · 6 months ago
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I'm far from being a Daemon's fan but why some people want to see him grooming Rhaena??
Even since it was rumoured that Rhaena is gonna take Nettles role on the series, I've seen people ( who obviously are Daemon's haters) saying that the only good outcome of Rhaena taking over Nettles' story is that we'll see Daemon grooming her. It's possible that Daemon and Nettles had a romantic relationship ( we can't know their exact relationship due to the ambiguity of the source). But let's assume that they indeed had a love affair. It's one thing for man to cheat on his wife with a much younger woman and another to do it with his underaged daughter. And canon Daemon isn't a sexually abusive parent.
If you need to turn a canonically morally gray character into a monster who abuses even his own children then it means you don't hate the canon Daemon, you hate the fanon evil caricature of his you created in your mind.
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carebooks · 3 months ago
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and if i say that aemond is the main targ going mad on the show and is the one causing the most damage to the realm and the aemond stans will start defending him in the comments— what then
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bl00dlight · 5 months ago
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Aemond was drinking MILK in the BROTHEL? Idk if I can match his freak yall...
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redleaffv · 4 months ago
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YALL THERES ONE MORE EPISODE LEFT. what am i supposed to do when it ends??? just?? wait?? am i supposed to move on?? i can’t guys
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reignof-fyre · 5 months ago
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"Daemon abandoned rhaenyra"
No ma'am, sir, they'am he was exiled by order of his king several times because Otto meddled and went away for ten years with his wifey laena to live his life and yeah he did it so he wasn't tempted by nyra cause we all know jace Luke and joffrey would be Daemon's kids if he stayed and actually it was a good thing he did cause it was likely mostly to benefit laena - who already knew Daemon would never love her like he did rhaenyra - and a good thing for laenor too cause Daemon would have bitch slapped that boy for being a shit husband/consort to rhaenyra and we all know viserys would have come up with sime perceived bullshit to exile him anyway, in this essay I will-
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ride-thedragon · 4 months ago
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One thing I do think is looked over is Daemon not caring about Rhaena because she doesn't have a dragon because I don't think that's what was happening at that time. She says Daemon ignores her, and Laena says he's doing his best.
Daemon is ignoring her because he can't tell her that she has to claim her right because that would mean they'd go back to Westeros for her to get the chance. That is something he is greatly opposed to at this point. It's obviously not something that is set in stone as well until that point because Laena assumes he'd tell her, and she'd learn it from both of them. Daemon ignores her because he can't look at his daughter in the face and say she has to claim a dragon, but he doesn't want to go. He can't explain that to her.
I'm not here to defend Daemon because why would I, but I do think this point at that part in the story is often misinterpreted.
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alicenthelaena · 5 months ago
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Rhaenyra and Alicent's current depictions and fan receptions scream Madonna/Whore. The debased Alicent who audiences are feening to see humiliated vs the respected Rhaenyra whose husband has erectile dysfunction.
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darilarostarg · 4 months ago
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"I'd rather it mean something than nothing" I just don't know who that scene could mean anything tbh i think it was purely for shock value
I do stand by how I interrupted it in my post. I don't think there is any harm in analysing and head canoning reasons why Daemon is seeing the things he is seeing.
But I also think the shock value thing works in a way? As Daemon himself was horrified by it, and he has been after every vision he has seen. I think we are meant to feel what he is in that moment along side him; shock, horror.
I like to believe that is why he is going hard on the 'king' thing, as he believe it will help him piece back together some control, as he doesn't even have control of his own mind at the moment (as well as a flurry of other reasons).
I think this hallucination in particular was massively influenced by Alys, hence why it was so ramped up from the others. I personally am not really sure on her motives at the moment if I'm honest. I don't think it's the lives on innocents and women, as surely pushing for a third faction to make its head in an already messy war would just lead to even more death for those groups?
But whatever it way be, I think it's clear she at the very least just wants Daemon to go a little mad. And I think they may use the fact that it ultimately doesn't work on Daemon to juxtapose how she affects an already hungry for power Aemond when they meet.
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clangrogu · 6 months ago
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My Taste in Fictional Men Pt. 2: Long, Blonde Hair (That’s all it takes, apparently)
Lotor (Voltron: Legendary Defender)
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Daemon Targaryen (House of the Dragon)
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Legolas (The Lord of the Rings)
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Aemond (House of the Dragon)
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Aaravos (The Dragon Prince)
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Jon: I wasn't armed!
Alicent: Except with a rock.
Aemond: I still have the scar!
Jon: Which healed!
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