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Oenone deserved her happy ending, God I hate that she committed suicide for Paris and they blame her for abandoning him when he abandoned her
You get it! T-T
Oenone should've been kissing girls like Medea and lived the rest of her days in peace, like why commit to her being the "bitter first wife" who refused the man who abandoned her (AND THEIR KID BTW) medical care then retract it and say she regrets it? And lose her life for it? Like no! Let her be mean! Anyone who blames her gets my fists!
(Alternatively, I do view Oenone refusing to treat Paris as a sort of karma for killing Corythus, their forgotten son. Either way her dying is so stupid and I wish authors back then knew what to do with her character.)
#oenone#corythus#oenone if i was your man i wouldve chosen athena or hera for you. hera specifically so we can live out as a power couple conquering kingdom#i would not be weaksauce at all for her#sighs#asks#the iliad#epic cycle
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The kids!!!
Homer: Are you aware that many Iliad characters are first time fathers? That all of them in one way or another misses a big chunk of their children’s life or never gets to see it at all?
Also Homer: leaves and never elaborates
A doodle for random parenting shiz basically. Order from left to right, top to bottom:
-Menelaus carrying a sleepy Hermione. @hermesmoly I was drawing this when the request came lolol
-Achilles and baby Neo. I don’t know if it’s a thing in other places but hanging on father’s leg and then let him moves it back and forth like an impromptu swing is quite a favorite pastime activity here.
-Odysseus and baby Telemachus who was trying to be a helicopter
-Hector and baby Astyanax when he was born.
-Probably Agamemnon and his three daughters, but I have no official designs. He tried to scold them and was failing. Tbh I feel like Agamemnon would be the type to cosplay buff Bubble from Powerpuff girls along with his daughters. I know he’s not that great but me delulu.
-Patroclus and Neoptolemus. Yes Patroclus contributed in raising him as well, the kid had 2 dads. Fight me.
#love the body language of all these sketches#mene and hermi just being my favorites#baby neo’s iconic hair XD#telemachus having pinchable cheeks!!!#aga scolding his girls but failing 😭#astyanax!!!#aww only oenone and corythus are missing but !!!! SO CUTE KIDS#the iliad#epic cycle#tagamemnon
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Life of Paris (Alexander)
1231 (age 0) Queen Hecabe of Troy dreams that she is about to give birth to a flaming torch that sets her city aflame. Aesacus, son of Priam by his previous wife, interprets the dream and declares the child will bring the downfall of Troy. On the day of Paris's birth, Aesacus further prophetizes that any royal child born that day would have to be killed to save Troy. Paris is born that same day before nightfall. Priam spares the child, unable to kill his own son. Herophile, priestess of Apollo, insists the child must be killed. Priam asks his chief herdsman Agelaus to kill Paris. Agelaus cannot kill the child and exposes him on Mount Ida, where he is suckled by a female bear. Five days later, Agelaus finds Paris alive and adopts him and tells Priam the child is dead.
1216 (age 15) Paris routs a gang of cattle thieves and returns the stolen animals to the herd, thus earning the nickname Alexander. Soon afterwards, Paris becomes the lover of Oenone, daughter of the river god Cebren and oread nymph of Mount Ida.
1214 (age 17) Paris and Oenone get married.
1212 (age 19) birth of their son Corythus on Mount Ida.
1211 (age 20) Paris starts organizing bull fights on Mount Ida, which he wins almost every time.
1209 (age 22) Paris offers a golden crown as a prize for his next bull fight. Ares chooses to participate, transforms into a bull and wins the contest. Paris gives the crown to Ares without hesitation, the honesty of which catches Zeus's attention and leads him to decide that Paris will award the golden apple he has been keeping since the marriage of Thetis and Peleus to the fairest goddess. Judgment of Paris: Paris attributes the golden apple to Aphrodite, earning Hera's and Athena's enmity, but winning the promise of Helen's love, most beautiful of all mortal women.
1208 (age 23) To atone for the supposed murder of his own son, Priam has been organizing expiatory games. Paris's favorite bull is taken to be the prize of this year's games. He decides to participate to win it back. Paris wins all the games, which angers his brother Deiphobus, but his sister Cassandra recognizes him with her seeress powers and Priam welcomes him back to Troy.
1207 (age 24) Paris hires Phereclus to build a fleet, as advised by Aphrodite.
1204 (age 27) Paris and his cousin Aeneas and a contingent of warriors leave for Greece, pretexting to visit and enquire about Hesione, Priam's elder sister. They travel through Greece, and when they reach Sparta, they are welcomed and entertained by Menelaus, husband of Helen who is immediately smitten with love for Paris, as promised by Aphrodite. Menelaus must leave for Crete, for the funeral of king Catreus, his grandfather. As soon as he is gone, Helen embarks with Paris for Troy. However, to avoid being pursued, they detour south of Crete, to Cyprus and Phoenicia. Paris and Aeneas sack Sidon.
1203 (age 28) The fleet reaches Troy. Paris and Helen marry.
1202 (age 29) Birth of Bunomus, their son.
1194 (age 37) Birth of Aganus, their second son.
1193 (age 38) The siege of Troy begins.
1192 (age 39) Birth of Idaeus, their third son.
1191 (age 40) Oenone sends their now adult son Corythus to Paris to participate in the war against the Greeks. He is welcomed by Helen and is stricken by her beauty. Paris does not recognize his son and kills him out of jealousy before he is informed of his identity.
1188 (age 43) Troy is struck by a minor earthquake, but the three sons of Paris and Helen are killed by the collapsing roof of their house.
1184 (age 47) Paris duels Menelaus and is saved by Aphrodite. He wounds Diomedes and later kills Achilles with an arrow guided by Apollo. Philoctetes wounds Paris with an arrow bearing the poison of the Lernaean Hydra. Helen rushes to Mount Ida to beg for Oenone's healing skills. She refuses and Paris soon dies. Oenone commits suicide.
#ancient greece#classical mythology#greek gods#greek heroes#greek mythology#mythology#trojan war#chronology#paris#priam#hecuba#helen#aeneas#achilles#diomedes#philoctetes#menelaus#oenone
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I know that in most stories only Hermione exists but in some of the stories where Helen also has kids with Paris, what happens to them? What’s their outcome?
ps. I can’t imagine Helen wanting to have kids in the first place. She comes off as someone who didn’t want to have kids but had to. I kinda headcanon that although she learned to love Hermione, it was not this unconditional love that moms are supposed to feel and she felt very guilty over that
Mostly, we don't know what happens to them, because the sources are fragmentary!
Aganos Scholiast on Euripides, Andr. 898: The writer of the Cyprian Histories says that (Helen's third child was) Pleisthenes and that she took him with her to Cyprus, and that the child she bore Alexandrus was Aganus.
For some reason this fragment isn't in my edition of the Loeb that deals with Epic Cycle fragments, and neither has Martin West included it in The Epic Cycle: a Commentary on the Lost Troy Epics, as excellent as it otherwise is. It is however included in an earlier Loeb edition, and Malcolm Davies in his The Cypria (freely available on The Center for Hellenic Studies website) includes it as well. Maybe because it's a question of if "Cyprian Histories/Kypriakas historias" are assumed to be another work and not the same as the Kypria.
I think this is the only place Aganos is mentioned (unless he's one of the three children mentioned by John Malalas). If this fragment doesn't belong to the Kypria, Since we apparently can't be sure which work this detail belongs to, and thus not how old of an idea Aganos is, it's impossible to say if there was, in fact, some pre-Homeric and traditional idea to Helen and Paris having at least one child.
What's really interesting for this fragment is, of course, that presumably these two half-brothers grow up together. Why Helen would take a probably-infant son with her on a potentially dangerous journey, but leave Hermione (whatever her age), I have no idea. This is all we know of these two, so what their end was we don't have a clue.
(Pleisthenes' pre-war existence here is interesting to me, too, since it sort of hooks into the existence of these other children of Menelaos and Helen existing pre-war. Sophocles in his Electra (line 539ff) says Menelaos and Helen had two children by the point Paris came to Sparta, because he could/should then have sacrificed either of them instead of Klytaimnestra having to give up Iphigenia. I wonder which potential son is imagined - is it Pleisthenes again, who we by this fragment knows could be pre-war? Is it Nikostratos, though he's usually given as the youngest and post-war?)
Korythos, Bunomos and Idaios Dictys (probably written somewhere in the 50-100CE) is where these three are grouped as children of Helen and Paris, and Dictys also has these three children killed. It happens right after Paris' own death, where a roof collapses in on them (the characters believe it judgement/punishment by the gods, but as the gods are absent, even if the moralising idea is undoubtedly meant both by the characters and the author, it doesn't have divine backing in-story). Korythos is sometimes known as Helenos, too.
Even a little earlier than this Korythos can however be the son of Helen and Paris; Nicander around 100 BCE and forward wrote this: "There was the tomb of fallen Corythus, Whom Helen bare, the fruit of marriage-rape*, In bitter woe, the Herdsman’s evil brood." (*the Greek here is harpage-damazo-hymenaios, so Nicander is definitely presenting the Helen-Paris relationship as abduction and rape.)
John Malalas gives Helen and Paris three sons as well (because he's basing his Chronographia off of Dictys), but I don't think their deaths are actually mentioned.
Helen (Jr.) Her only existence is in Ptolemaeus Chennus, which means it is Highly Suspect since his work is probably a parody of a mythological handbook. But I don't want to skip her, for part of this is quite charming, honestly. Paris and Helen each want to name her after themselves and play knucklebones over the privilege, Helen wins. This Helen Jr. is then killed by Hecuba during the sack.
For your p.s.; yeah, I agree! From beginning to end haha, that it was a love that came with time, and that made Helen feel guilty (especially when Hermione was small). Helen being a slightly more involved mother when Hermione is older because they can interact more, on a more complex level, and thus that's where the bonding and affection really comes. (Or, for my version where I have Hermione still a toddler, would have come.) I vaguely have the headcanon that both Helen and Kytaimnestra actually had no great desire for children and found no great fount of maternal ability or fondness when they did, by duty, have them. (I think my feeling on Klytaimnestra is then that that's why she lavished so much on Iphigenia, as her oldest. She wasn't abusive before the sacrifice, just not the most present or maternal mother.)
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i know the lore says that Iasion was the son of Zeus (by the Pleiad Electra), but thematically, i just don't think that makes a whole lot of sense.
Demeter, right through her myths, is ALWAYS being taken advantage of by the gods of Olympus, particularly the big three:
Zeus -- the birth of Persephone isn't really recorded, so we don't know what exactly happened there, but either way, by all accounts, i don't think he was very active in his daughter's life and Demeter was most likely left to do all the hard stuff (like so many other lovers of Zeus). secondly, he straight up gives Persephone up to Hades w/o consulting Demeter. thirdly, he kills Iasion out of jealousy for him getting to third-base with Demeter using no tricks at all, which i think is just the icing on a very big cake flavoured "all the things Zeus did to botch his relationship with Demeter".
Poseidon -- rapes her as a horse (producing Despoina and Arion).
Hades -- kidnaps her daughter. i know this is all "legal" but it doesn't change the fact that Demeter was betrayed by her own brother.
so because of all of this. i just don't see Demeter wanting to have anything to do with the gods... she stays in her fields and away from all of them.
that's why i think that it's so important that Demeter's true love is just some guy. he's not a god. he's not a hero. he's not even a prince. he has no divine blood whatsoever. he's just Iasion. just a simple farmer. i think Iasion needs to be SO opposite to all the other guys in Demeter's life. i think that's what makes him so appealing to her.
so yeah. that's my hc-- Iasion's mum is Electra but his dad is just Corythus, and he's not a king or anything.
#also related.. but i think Demeter gives him immortality and he becomes a god#just like Asclepius and Heracles before him.#anon#anonymous#asks#ask games#ask game
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Thanks! *she smiles* so um....I dont know where to go now, could you help?
“Oh uhm—hello! You seem nice.”
@not-the-capital-paris
o-oh! Hello?- I.....wait...love?
#they had one kid too 💀 I just remembered#<- wait really???? Omgs I found out his name; Corythus#P-plot point#mayhaps?
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Mythology Hot Takes
So I just want to put this out there.
Prince Paris had a wife and a son (a nymph named Oenone and a son named Corythus) that he abandoned to go after Helen, who was also a married woman with a child. This wasn't an arranged marriage, Helen was allowed to choose her husband and she chose Menelaus. After showing up as a guest under false pretenses, Paris also robbed his host, making off with the treasury of Sparta and Helen. On top of that, Paris didn't win over Helen with his personality or anything, he literally had a goddess bewitch her as a bribe. So... Yeah I don't consider this to be a romantic thing nor am I on board with seeing Paris as a good guy like he's painted in some modern retellings. I think he's honestly scummy and deserved to get killed. I do feel bad for everyone else in Troy, especially Hector and his family though. They should be considered among Paris' victims.
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Auge and Telephus
Oh, this a long one. Telephus is a super popular character in Greek Myths, being the son of Heracles and best buddies with Achilles (I think Patroclus would be jealous). His whole life story is quite interesting, but I want to talk about the bit in which he almost marries his mother, a là Oedipus style.
The oldest account of her is in Hesiod's Catalogue of Women, from c. 6th century BC, where she was raised by Teuthras in Mysia and later she is seduced by Heracles, which results in the birth Telephus. No more information on her is given.
We have mentions that around the 6th-5th century BC, a dude named Hecataeus wrote about her and Heracles. We know that because Pausanias mentions him in his Description of Greece from c. 110-180 AD. This is basically a game of telephone: Pausanias says that Hecataeus said that Auge lived in Tegea, where she had an affair with Heracles and got pregnant. Her dad, Aleus found this out and locked Auge and her child in a chest, which he threw into the sea. The chest arrived in Mysia, where the king, Teuthras, married her.
The next account of her I could find of her comes from Pseudo-Apollodorus Bibliotheca, from the 1st century AD. Here, it's said that Heracles raped Auge, who was a priestess of Athena, and that, when Aleus discovered his daughter had given birth, he left the child to die in Mount Parthenius (which failed, as the child was taken care by shepherds who found him) and sold Auge to Teuthras, who made her his wife. Later in the book, Apollodorus says that Telephus, Auge's son, found her in Mysia and became the prince.
In the book IV, chapter 33 from Diodorus Siculus Bibliotheca historica, which dates to 60-30 BC, Auge is once again said to have been raped and afterwards her father sent her to be drowned, but she gives birth to Telephus in secret and the man who was supposed to drown her takes pity on her and decides to gift her to Teuthras as a wife. The child was found and brought to King Corythus, who raises him as his own. When grown, Telephus desires to find his mother and, after learning her location through the Oracle of Delphi, sails to Mysia, where he marries Teuthras' daughter and becomes princes.
In Hyginus Fabulae, from 1 AD, Auge gives birth to Heracles' son in secret in Mount Parthenius and left baby. The child, Telephus, is then raised by shepherds along Atalanta's (the girl who runs, you know?) child, Parthenopaeus. Auge runs to Mysia, where King Teuthras adopts her as a daughter, since he had no children, which is a very different take from the previous ones, in which she became his wife.
It is within Fabulae that we finally get the Oedipus-style incest I mentioned before. You see, Teuthras had an enemy, Idas, and he offered his daughter's hand in marriage to the hero who managed to kill him. Telephus, along with his foster brother, Parthenopaeus, were in Mysia following the Oracle's advice to help Telephus find his birth mom and decide to take King Teuthras up on his offer. However, Auge wants nothing to do with this marriage and plans to kill Telephus.
The king fulfilled his promise, and gave him his kingdom and Auge as wife, unaware of the relationship. Since she [faithful to Hercules] wished no mortal to violate her body, she intended to kill Telephus, not realizing he was her son.
But before Auge can kill her new husband, a serpent sent by the gods stopped her. Telephus then is about to kill her for having tried to kill him when she begs Heracles (here called Hercules because it's a Roman text) for help and this causes Telephus to realize she's his mother. IDK how, but it does. Anyway, they go back to their home country happily ever after as mother and son, at least until Telephus goes to fight in the Trojan War side to side with his buddy Achilles.
This almost marriage between mother and son seem to be a later addiction to the myth of Telephus, as (at least from what I could find) it only appears in a Roman text. A later Roman dude, Aelian, blames the "tragic dramatists and their predecessors, the inventors of fables" for the invention of the incest in Telephus story. Indeed, there are lost plays about Auge and Telephus, and they may be from where this part of the myth originated, in a attempt to remake the success of Oedipus. But we may never know.
#shipcest#proship#parent x child#mother x son#filicest#mythology review#greek mythology#Fabulae#Hyginus#Pausanias#Description of Greece
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i'm sure people much smarter and more extensively studied than me have commented on this but it's so interesting to me that vergil chooses to make the trojan journey to italy not just a journey but a return. their ancestors came from italy and now they go back. the idea of italy as a fated homeland and not just a place the trojans think they're entitled to for no reason at all.
(image description: the following lines from a.s. kline's translation of aeneid 7:
And I remember in truth (though the tale is obscured by time) that the Auruncan elders told how Dardanus, sprung from these shores, penetrated the cities of Phrygian Ida, and Thracian Samos, that is now called Samothrace. Setting out from here, from his Etruscan home, Corythus, now the golden palace of the starlit sky grants him a throne, and he increases the number of divine altars.”
/end description.]
#now of course this does not remove the colonial/imperialist implications of the aeneid i think it in fact strengthens them#something something it is your godly destiny to take over these places. your ancestors have been there and you must reclaim them#max.txt#aeneid daily#aeneidblogging
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OENONE // PRINCESS OF TROY
“She was the first wife of Paris of Troy, whom he abandoned for Helen. Oenone was also the ancient name of an island, which was later named after Aegina, daughter of the river god Asopus. When Paris swore he would never desert her, Oenone (through her gift of prophecy) informed him that - whilst his love for her was true now - he would later sail across the sea to find another lover and bring ruin to his family. Paris, perhaps disturbed or afraid, always attempted to dismiss her warnings. Her prediction came true when Paris abandoned her, returning to his birth parents in Troy and sailing across the Aegean for Helen, the queen of Sparta. Out of revenge for Paris's betrayal, she sent Corythus, their son, to guide the Greeks to Troy. Another version has it that she used her son to drive a rift between Paris and Helen, but Paris, not recognizing his own son, killed him. A version of events say that the dying Paris returned to her, but she refused him and cast him out with scorn, to return to Helen's bed, and Paris died on the lower slopes of Ida. Then, overcome with remorse, Oenone, the one whole-hearted mourner of Paris, threw herself onto his burning funeral pyre, which the shepherds had raised.”
(painting is ‘Paris and Oenone’ by Jacob de Wit)
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#before you ask why her cousins are here… if orestes and pylades are gay she should also have the option#lol#hermione of sparta#neoptolemus#orestes#electra#telemachus#chrysothemis#pylades#peisistratus#iphigenia#corythus#greek mythology#the iliad#epic cycle
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Eochaid mac Enna in the Days of Menelaus Chapter One: The Dream
I have no idea why I am sharing this. Maybe people will like it, but I was thinking something like "Prince Valiant, but with the Matter of Troy instead of the Matter of Britain", but I still want to do my own thing so it isn't an exact transplant. Some liberties may have been taken, I admit.
It had been three years since the Expulsion of the Children of Goidel Glas from Kemet by the Queen Regent Twosret. While the Tribe of Israel may have been wiped out by Merneptah, Ramesses the Great’s noble son, and the future may have belonged to the Gaels, they were a people in exile dwelling in Scythia, the birthplace of Nel, the Scythian prince who married Scota, Daughter of Horemheb, and became father of Goidel Glas.
Day had come and Eochaid mac Enna sat before a plain, watching the horses as they grazed. He was ruddy skinned with short, curly red hair and mismatched eyes, the left frosty blue and the right green, the latter having a tendency to shine like that of a cat. He was fifteen years of age and stood at a height of five feet and five inches, only an inch shorter than Merneptah had been. He was lean and hungry in appearance, his jaw square, his nose large, hooked and pink tipped, his cheekbones sharp and the rest of his head like an egg in shape. His eyelids were close-fitting, causing his mismatched eyes to appear small and triangular. He was of common appearance, not particularly good-looking. His attire was that of the Scythians and so he wore trousers, a tunic, a long-sleeved jacket and boots.
As Eochaid sat, staring at the horses, he thought of the dream he had the night prior. In that dream, he had heard a woman’s voice say: “Choose me and I shall give you the most beautiful woman in all the world as your wife.”
A pleasant voice belonging to a man replied: “If such a woman exists, I will gladly abandon my wife Oenone and our son Corythus for her! What is her name?”
Out of the darkness a city appeared, a city as splendid as the Pella of Alexandros III, the Rome of Julius Caesar, the Camelot of Arthur, the Aachen of Charles, the Winchester of Aethelstan and the London of Richard Coeur-de-Lion would be, for this city came before all of them. A good, strong voice pronounced: “Our worthy king Menelaus, stepson-in-law of Tyndareus, and his beautiful queen Helena, stepdaughter of Tyndareus.”
Out of a palace stepped the royal couple. The king was a man of fifty-one, of moderate stature, auburn-hair greying and handsome. The queen was twenty-three, beautiful, brown-haired with legs which Dares Phrygius would call the best, a mouth that he would call the cutest and a beauty mark between her eyebrows. With the royal couple was a girl of six years and a boy of two. Their children no doubt.
Again, Eochaid heard the voice of the evil-hearted man who had been promised Helena. “Helena of Lacedaemon…” he said. “I shall steal you away and make you Helena of Troy!”
Then the scene changed. In a bay with what must have been a thousand ships and a gruff voice uttered: “Though my beloved Helena and our son Nicostratus have been stolen away by Paris and the Trojans, I will not standby idly. I call upon all who will join me in rescuing her. The suitors that she turned down, the children of the Argonauts and more. For many this will be their destiny.”
And there stood Eochaid, clad in the armour of Achaea, so different from where he was now, looking upon a sea of grass where horses grazed. It was his destiny, he knew it. He had to tell his father Enna of his dream, his destiny!
Thus, did Eochaid run to the home where he and his father lived, only to find a great crowd around it. Enna had joined Eochaid’s mother in death’s embrace.
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Thank you for answering!!
Cassandra’s case is so tragic, and I can’t help but think of how women often get violent against women because of circumstances (like Cassandra pulling Helen’s hair in a fit of rage when she arrived at Troy, to Cassandra being killed by Clytemnestra because she was a liability/Agamemnon’s forced concubine. It’s always those sisters 😭). You are right, to Helen Cassandra is Bitter and insane as a Mad Woman, and I like how Helen and Cassandra can never be truly close because of that.
AND YES Oenone was just an outsider!! She didn’t deserve any of that heartache!!
heyo! hope you’re having a good day :>
I’m curious, what is your take on Cassandra and Oenone? They are two women in the Epic Cycle with very tragic endings, but both are still very cool in their own right!
Hiya! Thank you for the ask!!
I haven’t had time to read any original Greek Myth classics works other than the Iliad, so my knowledge is a bit limited on this matter. However I have somewhat a general knowledge of their tales and I will give my opinions based on that.
The women of Greek Myth are very interesting to me, as they are complex people and I love the way they embrace their femininity, both in good and bad ways.
Cassandra is just a tragic woman, I think it’s quite brave and understandable for her to deny Apollo. After that even when no one believed her, she still voiced out her prophecies. Her ending was just tragic, being passed from one man to another, being defiled and then being killed as a minor collateral damage. Idk if it’s better that a woman killed her and not a man.
I think she’s important to the overall story as an helpless observer, but unlike other women who know almost nothing, her tragedy is that she knows something, probably too much. This is also why I added her in that fanfic of Helen, hehe. She acted quite bitter and insane there but it’s under the eyes of Helen, another observer who will not be able to understand throughout.
She’s like those women who are very smart and knowledgeable, unfortunately too smart for her own good. No one could keep up with her intellect, and as a result, is seen as a mad woman.
Oenone is even more tragic, as she has basically nothing to do with the Trojan War or even the Priam family. She has no part in the fight. She simply and unfortunately married to Paris. And for her, there was no Paris the prince, covering in shining stuffs and nice things for, but a shepherd, a nobody. She knew him as he was (or did she?)
Her life with Paris was before he knew he was a prince, it’s a simple and honest life (Alexa plays Married life from Up), until bro realized he was a prince and picking another married woman is better (bro your wife’s right there)😭😭😭. She died still loving Paris and out of guilt and grief.
#married life by up 🥹 even sadder with corythus in context#tagamemnon#epic cycle#cassandra of troy#oenone#oh bitter women you deserve to be protected forever
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Some dude in 1882 writing his own Trojan War story ("Helen of Troy" by A. Lang it's on Gutenberg) adding his own little ~spice~;
Helen, understanding what Aphrodite intends when Paris is extremely forthcoming about why he is in Sparta (though he clearly doesn't know it's Helen he's there for? and no one else thinks it's weird either), upbraids Aphrodite something fierce when she comes to her that night.
Aphrodite then like.
Removes her memory. Of her past, of her current life, everything.
Then has Hypnos put her in a "death-like sleep" and when Menelaos comes home from a hunt with Paris that evening everyone is like "HELEN IS DEAD!!"
Aphrodite then puts everyone to sleep the next morning, the mindwiped Helen awakes and is described in some frankly creepy ~childish delight~ at everything she sees terms, she meets Paris and of course leaves with him.
He goes with the twenty years passed Helen mentions in the Iliad, so she spends ten years as a happy amnesiac with a man she loves, then, right before the Achaeans come, Oenone sends Corythus to Troy with a message for Helen. As she reads it she gets her memories back.
Cue ten years of war with not-memory-wiped Helen clearly spending them hating Paris.
Now comes the sack. And...
Ok ok.
Are you ready for this?
Aphrodite secretly leads Helen out of the burning Troy, mind-wipes her again and puts her to sleep in Menelaos' bed in his hut in his camp. She wakes up, thinking it's the same morning/day when Menelaos left for the hunt in Sparta (twenty years ago!), and is dragged out by Menelaos to be stoned.
Aphrodite finally steps in to ~remind him~ of his love of her again.
Like
what
and I can't emphasize this enough
the fuck?????
#greek myth thoughts#the iliad#trojan war#helen of sparta#I ??????#mans makes a whole weird plot out of repeatedly mind-wiping Helen
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omgg @maelor321 i totally forgot that many versions have Iasion as Zeus' son!!!! i've always liked the one where he's Corythus' son not Zeus' lmfaooo but ur comment is infinitely funny
Zeus: Why does the mortal Iasion keep calling you "babygirl"? Demeter: how about we stop talking for a while.
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