#clone theories

[the-bad-batch-baroness]

As a science nerd, this video was a really interesting watch.

Two things I really liked about this theory video:

The idea of neural pathways playing a large part in the chip's function and that Tup stunning Pong Krell reinforced the neural pathway.

The idea that the "nightmares" Tup talks about are subconscious and a reinforcement of the neural pathways already built by the chip.

Fives was clearly confused when Tup mentioned the nightmares, and it seemed like he had no idea what Tup was talking about. However, when Fives died, he mentioned the same thing about the nightmare. So, obviously, he must have had them, too, but never knew it.

It would be pretty crazy if all the clones had the same nightmare every single night and then remembered it. They would have talked about it with each other. They probably would never have wanted to sleep. The only time the nightmares are mentioned is before a clone dies. It's as if their life flashes before their eyes and their subconscious enters their conscious.

This theory also gave me my own theory about Tup's chip. I've never really thought about it before, but what if Tup's chip degraded because of Order 66? We can see throughout The Bad Batch that the effects the chip wear off (eg, Cody). What if the wearing-off is actually just the bio-chip degrading after being used?

If the sole purpose of the chip was to make the clones execute Order 66, then after the order is carried out, the chip would no longer be needed, and the body would naturally discard it. I don't think there was anything "wrong" with Tup’s chip. It was just in a stage of degradation because it already served its purpose.

Feel free to discuss, disagree, or cast out your own theories!

[oblique-lane]

Another take on the TF2 Clone Theory:

Continuation to this.

When I was talking to people about the clone theory, they were always asking me about who were originals and who were clones. I didn't understand why that matters; they're all same people with the same memories of their pre-service past, right?

What I didn't understand is that people had entirely different take on how clones are made than I do. I've never even thought about the fetus tubes until someone specifically pointed out that scene in Emesis Blue... (I also didn't know cloning was a real life thing?? Not just sci-fi trope??)

So yeah I've always thought cloning was instant because it would also explain how respawn works. Classic "resurrection" either isn't the thing (lame) or just takes too much time to commit. However, the super cool very scientific respawn machine will use your remains + storage bio supply to quickly rebuild a new body (as it was at the assigning day) and put your consciousness into that body so you feel like you're living nonstop.

(at least that's the theory)

Also, to answer these questions:

They do remember their connections, their past and their memories. Memories of the past are the same.

Their families were not cloned, they aren't involved in this business in any way. They don't know.

However, to keep this secret from the mercs... Of course if both of the clones will speak to their families they will soon spot some weird things and inconsistencies (talking about things that seemed to never happen). Not even talking about visiting family on holidays, that's an obvious no-no.

So... First of all, a big deal is to make REDs and BLUs lives and experiences here as similar (ideally identical) as possible.

And second: I think their connection to the world is just very limited/prohibited. The telephone connection is entirely controlled by the Administration (Sniper has to drive far away to sneak talk to his parents). Letters are monitored, censored and withhold if necessary (or copied if they are FROM the family). No going home until the contract is due (many years??) etc...

Which contradicts comics in s lot of ways but you know what? I don't even care. Comics are an unreliable narrator anyways. I mean uh... I uh. I'll talk about it some other time.

[a-scary-lack-of-common-sense]

Eldritch/not-entirely-human Grunkle Stan stories have been eating away at my brain, so I have a silly little concept of Mimic!Stan.

He and his Mystery Shack are both mimics that lure tourists in as a literal "tourist trap" to gather and devour them! Since the house is alive, it raises a few (read: several) child safety concerns that lead to a LOT of rules to be created for Dipper and Mabel to follow when they eventually arrive, such as:

Be careful not to get lost in the winding hallways! The Mystery Shack is bigger on the inside, and you don't want to end up in the wrong areas.

Don't go through randomly appearing doors, they may eat you.

If you think you feel the walls around you breathing and the floor beneath you shifting, no, you don't.

If you think the walls feel a bit damp, you're imagining it.

Watch your fingers around windowsills! You wouldn't want to lose any of them.

Don't linger too long under the doorframes; it may start feeling like they are slowly constricting around you.

[ninjasmudge]

everybodys a critic...

[local-cryptid]

i actually started this a couple weeks ago but with the latest episodes i felt the need to finish it

[omaano]

Had a bit of a crisis over trying to draw Boba, so I did the adult thing and did some face studies. Learned a lot, hopefully some of it sticks

[incorrectstarwarsquotess]

Ahsoka, about Anakin: What’s wrong with him?

Obi-Wan: Everyone has a different theory.

[vivaislenska]

The say it feels good to be bad. But CX-2 cannot feel anything at all…

[flamingpudding]

Fictober23 Prompt: 4 - "Do you even know what this means?"

Fandom: DPxDC

Rating: G

Warnings: -

Tim stared at his family with pure exhaustion before letting out a sigh while covering his face with his hands because of the worried looks they were sending him after his long rant.

It had all started with a stupid school project. It was just supposed to be a stupidly simple school project. Did he think of the whole thing as the greatest nonsense project his school has ever come up with? Yes. Did he still do it? Yes. He needed the extra credits, because of some stupid meetings he had missed other projects which was the entire reason he took part in this one.

Maybe he should have tried buying his grade out of it like all the other snobbish rich kids but then he would feel guilty and the moment Alfred found out, he would have to life with the disappointed™ look. Something he really didn't want to deal with. So instead he took part in this stupid ancestry project his school had organized.

But when he had allowed the school to send in his DNA he certainly did not expect the result he got back. Because when he opened the email, he noted that it was addressed to someone named Danny Fenton not Tim Drake, he didn't even read the rest really. That should have been his first warning.

His second warning was when he had hacked into the that DNA testing facility to actually get his results back and then found a note on his data file about a near 100% DNA match to one Danny Fenton which caused them to assumed that Tim was Danny and just had sent in his DNA a second time after, he peaked through his finger onto the screen, 5 years. That should have been his second warning.

But no, Tim had actively ignored all the warnings and decided to dig into who this Danny Fenton was. Because there were so many possibilities of how they could match but only so little to explain the time difference between them sending in the DNA samples. For dear good Tim hoped to all things that there wasn't someone else to have attempted to clone him before Ra, no worse even, he hoped HE wasn't the clone in this situation.

Really he didn't want to add existential crisis to all the problems and cases he already had to deal with.

So what does one do best when they learn there was someone with nearly the same DNA you have? He looked that someone up. So that was what Tim did next. He had spent nights looking up anything he could find, summarizing all the information he found, branching off when he found other concerning stuff and then stewed in some frustration of the incompetence of some people when discovering other facts.

In the end Tim compiled all the data he had found into a 30 slides long power point. That he had presented to his family and was awaiting their reaction. Bruce had grunted earlier and the demon brat had huffed out something in between slight 25 and 26 earlier. Jason had muttered something right at the beginning and Dick had stayed quiet the entire time, so did Cass. Steph hadn't said a thing either and Duke looked just puzzled.

"Do you even know what that means?" Demon brat finally broke the silence, causing Tim's eye to twitch before aggressively pointing to his last slide still on the presenter.

"Yes, I do know what this means. I have listed all possibilities right here if you haven't noticed. And i explained possibility three, four and six on slide-"

"Replacement. I don't think that's what the brat means." Jason cut in and Tim glared at him.

"Timmy, when was the last time you slept?" Dick carefully asked and Tim directed his glare at him.

"I believe Master Timothy hasn't slept for about 72 hours now." Alfred added in with that disapproving stare of him and time looked away stubbornly. How was the amount of sleep he got relevant right now? There was a possibility of him being a clone or someone having cloned maybe even years before he started to follow B around as a kid with a camera.

Bruce let out a sigh and Steph appeared to try to hide a chuckle leaning on Cass shoulder. "He must be lacking sleep if he doesn't see the most obvious possibility considering the time line he presented on slide 18."

"Oh so, I am not the only one thinking he is missing another obvious possibility?" Duke asked and once more Tims eye twitched. Getting fed up with his family, Tim huffed and crossed his arms, glaring at them all.

"And what is it that I am obviously missing?"

"The screenshot of the mail you put in slide 3 stated that it's not a 100% match but 89%. In addition it stated in the last line a suspected possibility of a familiar relation. I am disappointed, Drake. That you would miss something this obvious."

"What?" Tim whirled around going to the slide to reread the mail.

"Considering that I am pretty sure, we don't have any sort of cloning case here Tim." Dick started his voice now slightly laced with Humor and Tim narrowed his eyes at his older brother over his shoulder. "You just discovered that you had a twin, that we probably still go to rescue."

Tim's mouth opened and closed like a fish out of water. He did not know what to say and before he could even catch up with what his brothers had said Alfred was already behind him pushing him towards the elevator.

"It is time for you to get some sleep Master Timothy. I am sure Master Bruce and the others will be perfectly able to handle the rest of the situation with the information you compiled. You can join them after you have rested."

[deserthusbands]

cody, standing with obi-wan while watching anakin and padmé talk: he does know that—

obi-wan: ah, well. we’re all just letting him believe he’s doing a good job of keeping it secret, dear.

cody: oh.

cody: we're not like that, are we? :/

obi-wan, chuckling: oh no dear. of course not.

[zeninix]

small doodle of her!! ms microbangs!! i love her so much

[oneanothername]

[lettherebemonsters]

Oh I think I know why the (potential) resurrected angel in Club Consent has an X in the opposite side is because of this:

The X over the eye was flipped.....for SOME reason. Now it makes sense because this design mirrors the head. The flashback screwed up the location of the X.

[i-dont-know-how-this-site-works]

I've truly hit rock bottom.

The major complaint with all our delusional takes regarding Tech's survival is that we are taking them out of our asses, but in this case, it is quite literally outta someone's ass.

Look, I don't wanna dunk on my main man, but Tech's got no booty. He is as flat as an airport landing strip in the Netherlands. I don't know what voodoo dark magic Nala Se did to strip Tech of the standard issue clone tushy, because our next possible candidate for Clone CX-2 is Cody, and dude is packin'.

Exhibit 1:

Certified 0° booty.

Exhibit 2:

That's a category 10 booty right here ^.

Now, fortunately for us the creatives put Clone CX-2 in a leotard from the waist down, so we got an unobstructed view of the clone's behind and I gotta say, it's some pretty convincing evidence right here that CX-2 is Tech.

Also, I made this account three years ago and have never changed the profile picture before, but today I did cause delusion is swallowing me whole.

[oblique-lane]

I wonder why, when it comes to the Clone Theory, it's very common to perceive clones as less human/ subhumans/ not real (among the authors and the audience)? Why is it such a big deal to know who are "originals" and who are clones?

I'm not telling people how they should write their stories (be free, do crimes), just personally, I think about this particular detail a lot.

What exactly does make clones lesser than human? The fact that their DNA was ripped off of someone else's? The fact that they weren't born from a human womb? The fact that they're someone's greatest experiment? ...Are they not humans because they were denied personhood?

Genuinely don't get that.

You know, I've never really read Frankenstein's monster but I'm starting to see similar motifs here...

Imagine one day the whole world finds out that the government was actively making clones of people for military purposes. "Who are the originals" wouldn't be a question to determine who's more or less worthy to stay alive. The "creators" of the clones already own everything to them just for the mere fact they've brought them to existence without their consent.

They ARE human by all means if they're sentient and they exist, and spreading the idea among them that "one is worthy, other is not" is just a tool to separate the oppressed (both sides) and make them clash with each other (instead of going against their oppressor), and to justificate just killing one side as to not to deal with the difficulties of leaving both sides be.

In the eyes of the system NONE of them is human, neither clones nor originals. That's what actually scary...

[horatio-fig]

Keep thinking about how Ahsoka defeated the holder of the Darksaber in The Clone Wars S7…