#civil war team iron man

[taylorkellyreporting]

i’m looking for an anti team cap fic on ao3 that i read once where either the entire team or just clint break into tony’s living quarters and finds laura and her kids there with tony watching a movie in the living room and it shocks clint cause he didn’t even know laura left the farm. i’m pretty sure peter and maybe harley are there. i vaguely remember laura’s kids either call tony dad or uncle. i’m not sure if a physical fight breaks out but i know there’s shouting. does it sound familiar to anyone? it might be part of a series.

[padfootprongslet]

i guess if there are no civil war team iron man extreme anti team cap irondad fics with no harley keener, i gotta write them myself.

[itshype]

So, I don't Think I have m/any Tony Stark or MCU fans following my lil' blog (maybe because I never post relevant content) but I wrote 80% of a Tony Stark fic several years ago and finally started publishing it (Will Be Completed Guarantee).

Pyrrhic Miracle by ItsHype on Ao3 if you're interested.

Obadiah Stane is not a good person, but he really does love his godson.

[Thank you to @suchaladyy for betaing this for me, I appreciate you!]

[ffiamgoku]

A piece of art I had drawn up by @pencilhead7 for my MCU fic Some Reassembly Required. The fic features both female versions of Tony Stark (who I based her appearance off Milla Jovovich) and Peter Parker (who similarly to my other fics which use female Peter, based her appearance off Anya Taylor-Joy) The story will also feature the iteration of the Fantastic Four from the 2005-2007 films. While I feel the 'Rise of the Silver Surfer' film had....issues. (Galactus being a giant alien fart cloud being one of them) and wasn't as good as the first film, I still don't think it's horrible/unwatchable. I did and still do like the first film, and feel they captured the dynamic of the four well, Ioan Gruffudd and Michael Chiklis I feel were perfectly cast as Ben and Reed, as well as Chris Evans and Jessica Alba did great jobs bringing Johnny and Sue to life on screen. The story is NOT friendly to Steve Rogers, or Wanda Maximoff. Fic Link: Some Reassembly Required

[themculibrary]

hey! I think my ask was eaten by tumblr given that it's been a few weeks, so I'll ask again. (If you just haven't found the fic I apologize for bothering you). Anyway, it was a time-travel fic that started off in Siberia right after the Civil War fight. It took Tony to the aftermath of the first Avengers. He kept feeling betrayedl at Steve. I know Natasha noticed something was off about him. It was loki/tony. Thanks!

Could it be this fic?

If You Had This Time Again (ao3) - dls loki/tony T, 268k

Summary: Tony Stark closed his eyes in a wrecked Siberian bunker and woke up on a demolished New York street. Four years earlier.

[crazypantsjewels]

When ArcticVulpix posts several new fics:

[hum-suffer]

In my living room,

Listening to Frank Sinatra,

And I'm looking at you.

The betrayal of your absence blooms like bruise on my chest

(Even today)

(it's been years)

You're not going to believe me again

Because I won't ever trust you again.

I can't help myself.

You sit there, desolate and everything that my past once was

Loved, attended to, alone, and faulty.

But I can't breathe better with the weight of your violence in my chest,

I can't help myself.

[sad-coffeebean]

Day 12 of marvel fics I love and recommend

This one is James bucky Barnes/Tony Stark

Some of the tags: not team cap friendly, Bucky Barnes recovering, past Steve Rogers/Tony Stark, soulmate bonds, enemies to frenemies to idiots in love.

Bucky and tony are soulmates, siberia happens but Bucky leaves with tony instead, soulmates and hurt/comfort fluffy shit. 10/10 I loved it

[startrekfangirl2233]

This! Seriously!

I'm with @rayshippouuchiha! Captain America: Civil War was a shit movie. Why were all of the Avengers so easily manipulated into thinking that Tony Stark is all that is evil in the world? The man fed you, clothed you, armored you and sheltered you. That big-ass compound you were used to? Yeah, you were there solely because of his generosity.

And don't get me started on Steve Rogers. The man has been out of the ice for four years at that point in time. I understand his concern when everyone and their mother believes that Bucky had set the bomb off at the UN. I would be too. But what about the UN's orders for Bucky to be in custody made the man think he was going to be assassinated? Has he not caught up on the current state of politics in the four years he spent running around the 21st century? Wasn't that SHIELD's duty?

Bucky, at this point in time, is probably the world's longest held prisoner of war. What made him think that the UN was just going to assassinate him? Like seriously.

And then there is the murder of Howard and Maria Stark situation. He kept sensitive information about what is probably one of the worst day's of his teammate's life from him? For years? All of Civil War and the MCU would have been so different without that. Obviously Tony was overwhelmed when he saw the murder play out in that bunker in Siberia. He lashed out in pain. Was Tony using lethal force? I don't think so. All of the Iron Man armors had a uni-beam. I don't think even a super soldier could've withstood the damage from a direct uni-beam hit. All Bucky lost was an arm. Tony lost so much more.

It's been 5+ years now and yet everytime I even think about Captain America: Civil War I still get so incandescently pissed off

[eunuchorn]

People who think that Steve's motivation in Captain America: Civil War was about Bucky so fundamentally misunderstand Steve Rogers as a character that I have to wonder if we actually watched the same movie.

Steve's opposition to the Accords had nothing to do with Bucky. Full stop. Even if Bucky didn't exist, CA:CW would still have played out the exact same way (except the fight with Tony at the end, obviously). Sooner or later, Steve would have run into a situation where he felt compelled to act, but doing so would go against the Accords. In CA:CW, that situation happened to be the kill order on Bucky, but it could have been a totally different situation and the result would still have been the same. Steve would have chosen to act, knowing it went against the Accords, and he would have found himself on the opposite side of the law. Even the ones who actually signed the Accords, i.e team Iron Man, found themselves in that situation eventually:

Natasha chose to go against orders and let Steve and Bucky get away after the airport fight so they could stop the other winter soldiers.

Tony chose to go against Ross's direct orders and went to help Steve in Siberia.

Vision went on the run with Wanda and helped her avoid arrest.

Rhodey went against Ross's direct orders and chose to help Cap and the rest in Infinity War instead of arresting them.

All of them found themselves in situations where they chose to act in violation of the Accords, because to not do so would be morally wrong. Which was Steve's entire point. Legality isn't the same as morality and putting their powers in the hands of political agendas would inevitably cause the Avengers to either have to fight someone who didn't deserve to be fought, or to be kept from fighting someone who should have been stopped. As shown in the examples above.

So Bucky was totally irrelevant to Steve's decision regarding the Accords. Bucky or no Bucky, Steve would have refused to sign, found himself in a situation where he felt morally compelled to act, and ended up with an arrest warrant on his ass. Which, presumably, Tony would have tried to carry out. And boom, the general plot of the movie happens anyway. That's what the civil war was about, not Steve's relationship with Bucky. The fact that it was Bucky's situation that was the catalyst, instead of some other thing, was coincidental (or, rather, it was because it's a Cap movie and personal stakes as a secondary/parallel plot is more narratively compelling).

[shamelessexplosions]

I'm about 8 years late with this but one thing in the Civil War dispute I have never seen anyone from either side point out (and I could just be completely wrong on this):

There is no indication Steve actually knew Bucky killed Tony's Parents

Steve knew it was Hydra because, and as far as I am aware ONLY because of Zola's little exposition scene in Winter Soldier where he shows a bunch of newspapers clippings of things Hydra is responsible for, including Howard and Maria Stark's death.

I repeat: things HYDRA is responsible for. So, yes, Cap knew Hydra killed the Starks, and knew Bucky was working for Hydra. That does not mean, because of that little exposition scene, Cap decided, 'oh yes, in the last 70 years Hydra has only had one man doing all their assassinations, so that must mean Bucky killed Howard and Maria.'

The thought it might have been him could have occurred to Steve, but either way, that would be a theory, and not something Steve has any reason to tell Tony.

For further proof, this exchange from Civil War straight after Tony & Steve watched the security footage:

Tony: "Did you know?"

Steve: "I didn't know it was him."

Tony: "Don't give me that shit, Rogers. Did you know?"

Steve: "...Yes."

To me at least, that 'yes' means Steve knew Hydra, as an organisation, killed Stark's parents, and he elected not to tell Tony, which he is shown to have found out in Winter Soldier so we know that. But his initial statement, "I didn't know it was him", we have no evidence wasn't entirely truthful.

(Whether Tony hears that 'yes' as 'yes I knew Bucky killed your parents' or 'yes I knew your parents death wasn't an accident/orchestrated by Hydra' is ...debatable, but either way I can't see any reason to believe Steve meant the latter, especially since he has already said he knew it wasn't Bucky specifically.)

Why didn't Steve tell Tony Hydra killed his parents?

I can think of a few reasons, whatever side of the Civil War divide you are you can probably come up with more:

1. Steve knew Zola was trying to distract Steve and Nat when he showed those newspapers, so was just trying to keep them engaged, and hinting there might be more to the death of an old friend and get Steve emotional would be a great way to do that. Steve might have suspected it was true, but with no actual evidence he didn't want to open Tony's old wounds.

2. The avengers were going after Hydra post-Winter Soldier, and Steve was worried about what Tony might do/how reckless he might be/didn't trust him enough to risk telling him the people they were targeting killed his parents.

3. It was more than 30 years in the past. If Steve didn't know it was Bucky, it would be likely the person who did it (or at least authorised it) was long dead or unfindable (again, 30 years cold case, no evidence except in a bunker in nowhere siberia that Zemo spent a year searching for when he knew exactly what he was trying to find), so there would be no justice to get, so it would be only hurting Tony for no reason.

But the point is there are a lot of reasons Steve wouldn't tell Tony (admittedly a lot aren't very good or wishful thinking, and Steve probably should have said something, but it is a common theme across the MCU that Steve doesn't always have as much faith in Tony as he should (and then sometimes Tony builds Ultron because he got scared and you can understand why Steve might not trust him when emotional), I'm not here to idolise either of them or say either were completely right in this movie, just point out one thing I see a lot of people complain about). A lot of those reasons don't hold if Steve knew that it was Bucky, and we will never know if Steve might have told him if he did, but you can't blame Steve for not telling Tony something he didn't know himself.

[vee-nyx]

to celebrate 8 years since civil war release, let’s review all the ways tony stark was an absolute loser and actually the reason thanos won in infinity war:

created an omnicidal A.I. that the rest of the team warned him against creating

decided that the entire team needed to become government puppets because he felt guilty for creating said A.I. that, once again, NO ONE SUPPORTED HIM IN MAKING

(also the reason bucky was forced back into the fight bc tony caused sokovia and thus caused zemo’s need for revenge but i digress on that pt)

when members of the team who can’t disconnect from their abilities raised concerns about how the accords dehumanized them, he had them arrested or locked them in his tower

bribed (yes, bribed) a child into fighting on his side because he knew he was outmatched

instructed vision to shoot sam out of the sky and then shot sam point-blank when he avoided the blast that would’ve left him severely injured AND LANDED TO HELP THE PERSON IT HIT

wanda on the raft. this is its own point. he let her be restrained and collared like a fucking DOG as if he hadn’t already done enough damage in her life (killing her parents & brother)

proceeded to break the accords THAT HE HELPED WRITE to chase cap across the globe because he felt left out of the action

blamed a brainwashed pow for BEING FORCED to kill the starks AGAINST HIS WILL and proceeded to BLOW HIS ARM OFF and ATTEMPT TO KILL HIM DESPITE KNOWING THAT NONE OF IT WAS HIS CHOICE

mocked natasha’s trauma because she dared to disagree with his methods (he is, in fact, incapable of letting go of his ego for one goddamn second)

even after receiving an apology, refused to contact cap for three years despite KNOWING about the threat of thanos

in conclusion,

[padfootprongslet]

nahhhhhh the cinematography of john walker killing a man using the shield to the chest is beautiful BECAUSE HE IS NOT THE FIRST CAPTAIN AMERICA TO DO A SIMILAR MOVE AND IF IT WAS SEEN THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE REACTED THE SAME WAY.

[platossoulmates]

i will never understand people who are team iron man in civil war because it is LITERALLY a captain america movie. you are supposed to sympathize with tony stark and the world governments, and understand that yes, reform is needed (which steve UNDERSTANDS and agrees with), but also understand that what they’re enacting is morally wrong. the sokovia accords (much like the mutant registration act in x-men 2000) require the registration AND tracking of all enhanced individuals as well as agreeing to prison without trial should the government decide it necessary (they go into detail about the legislation in the sokovia accords in agents of shield, which, yes, is technically no longer canon, but this aired long before it moves off track of the main marvel timeline, when it was still following canon post winter soldier movie). it strips all inhumans, mutants, people who have been experimented on (all of which is out of these people’s control) of quite literally all of their constitutional rights. tony stark is not in the right just because steve didn’t tell him about his parents. the politics of the movie are so deep please use your critical thinking skills

[ffiamgoku]

Another great pic set drawn for me by @konako. Again these are for some of my MCU fics that feature Female Peter Parker (Penelope Parker). This pic (and fic elements) take inspiration from the 90s Spider-Man Clone Saga comic arc that lasted from 1994 to 1996. It is not a direct adaptation, it is merely inspired by it and draws some content from it.

This pic features Penelope, her clone Beth Reilly (Female Ben Reilly), and Kaine Parker, a clone who suffered from a degenerative condition.

Now I know the Clone Saga is....divisive among Spider-Man fans...and yeah, the longer it went on the plot just went off the rails and went batshit crazy. But I do love the introduction of Ben Reilly/The Scarlet Spider, and some of the Clone Saga contents, but it did really go off the rails after awhile and the writers were just cramming so much content into it without much care for how ridiculous it was getting. It was crazy even by comic book standards. As always, my version of Penelope's appearance is based on Anya Taylor-Joy, as is Beth's. However I wrote in that the degenerative affects Kaine suffered under, made her body age beyond what Penny and Beth were, so instead of being a teenager, she is in her late 20s/early30s. Kaine is based on actress Meghan Ory (who some may know as playing Ruby on "Once Upon a Time" among other roles). Who Konako has drawn such great art of Meghan before on her page, and she did again an amazing job here capturing the characters, the outfits, and even the anatomy of them. (Kaine is older, and in the comics, when Peter is older he has a larger physique than his teenage self, so Kaine here being physically older is bigger than Penny and Beth) Below is a link to two of my Female Peter Parker fics: Some Reassembly Required A New Team: (Done Right) Siberia: Take Two These fics are NOT Steve Rogers Friendly, or Wanda Maximoff Friendly.

[velvet4510]

Probably in the minority here, but I’m positive there’s no way Steve could’ve known with absolute, concrete certainty that Bucky was the one who killed Tony’s parents, prior to Zemo’s reveal.

All he saw was a photo of the headline of Howard’s death included in Zola’s footage. So he knew HYDRA was responsible for the deaths, but I think he was being honest when he told Tony “I didn’t know it was him.” Then he caved and just said “yes” because Tony emphasized “did you know” as in “did you know it wasn’t just an ordinary car accident?”

Steve probably pieced together the likelihood that it was Bucky who did it, but wanted to believe it wasn’t true, that HYDRA had sent someone else to do it. Which explains why he didn’t tell Tony. He had no proof it was true. And he didn’t want it to be true anyway. Why should he say “I think my best friend might’ve killed your parents but it’s just a hunch?” Why would ANYONE want to say that to their friend?

Steve Rogers deserves no hate.