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"I sign off all my emails with 'undeserving of his grace'" awesome bro I just threw up in my mouth a little
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Tw: conversion therapy, “ex gay” but oh my god the tea
losing my mind. after years of claiming to be completely gay and not even dating anybody, christopher yuan is getting married to a woman. (I should really stay off the “ex” gay beat but shh this isn’t about that) wtfffffffff what are you doing man. are you going to start advocating for sexless mixed orientation marriages? i mean nothing wrong with a queer platonic relationship with paperwork but you’re gonna estrange the people that want to buy your home conversion therapy program. are you going to say that god turned you straight for a woman that you either never dated or lied about not seeing? only the most gullible people are going to think you “turned straight”, it’s pretty unjustifiable to lie to them for profit.
Again, I cannot emphasize enough that this man is selling an at home conversion therapy program to families. Don’t be fooled into thinking it’s okay because they don’t explicit claim to change a person’s sexuality. They’re just trying to convert people to celibacy now. The goalpost has barely moved.
Also he’s the poster child for gay celibacy. Colleges and churches love trotting him out to tell people to be grateful for their misery. He’s been presenting the gracious burden of unfulfilment in the name of Jesus Christ for his entire career. And now he’s going to get married to a woman? Lmao okay.
#ex gay#religious trauma#ex christian#christopher yuan#vent post#holy sexuality#sure jan#exvangelical#tw christianity
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Books of 2023 #42
Out of a Far Country by Christopher Yuan and Angela Yuan
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Testimonies from Christians who experience SSA
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#melissa dougherty#christian#christianity#gospel#jesus#new christian#bible#christianblr#lgbtq#lgbtqia#ssa#same sex attraction#christopher yuan#becket cook#Youtube#my post#christblr
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Clearing Up a Media Firestorm on Biblical Sexuality
Ran across this late last night and was impressed with Dr. Heath Lambert’s presentation of his church’s recent statement on biblical sexuality. Well done. Don’t trust the media headlines. Listen to his words and explanation. And Christian, don’t flinch when the world doesn’t like it. Truth is determined by a majority vote of the culture. It is determined by the sovereign God of the universe who…
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#Biblical Manhood#Biblical Sexuality#Biblical Womanhood#Christopher Yuan#Dr. Heath Lambert#Humand Sexuality#Taking a Stand
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#dune: part two#denis villeneuve#filmedit#timothée chalamet#zendaya#rebecca ferguson#christopher walken#florence pugh#austin butler#stellan skarsgard#roger yuan#lea seydoux
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do y’all have any current male resources on the theology of cultural issues (sexuality, abortion, etc.) who are as thorough as women like Allie B. Stuckey, Rosaria Butterfield, Nancy Pearcey, Alisa Childers, et al?
#I love Christopher Yuan but I’ve never read his books and I don’t know how deeply he gets into the philosophical nitty-gritty#obviously I would say R.C. Sproul is such a resource but he is (alas) not current#maybe Al Mohler or John MacArthur?#mobile#x#Christianity#respublica#I have been feeling morosely like Deborah lately and idk if that’s justified or not
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'Dune: Part 2' (2024) film
-watched 5/31/2024- 3 [1/4] stars- on Max
92% Rotten Tomatoes
#my have seen list#Dune: Part 2#(2024)#film#denis villeneuve#sci fi/adventure#austin butler#zendaya#timothée chalamet#florence pugh#lea seydoux#rebecca ferguson#stellan skarsgard#christopher walken#javier bardem#josh brolin#dave bautista#tim blake nelson#charlotte rampling#souheila yacoub#stephen mckinley henderson#ana cilas#babs olusanmokun#rand faris#roger yuan#cecile sinclair#sammy sheik#tara breathnach#giusi merli#Max
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DUNE: PART 2
Paul plays messiah
To take down Harkonnen House
Sci Fi becomes art
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#dune part two#dune part 2#dune#random richards#poem#haiku#poetry#haiku poem#poets on tumblr#haiku poetry#haiku form#poetic#denis villeneuve#frank herbert#jon spaihts#timothee chalamet#zendaya#rebecca ferguson#javier bardem#josh brolin#austin butler#florence pugh#dave bautista#christopher walken#lea seydoux#stellan skarsgard#charlotte rampling#souheila yacoub#roger yuan#babs olusanmokun
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(bit of a volume warning on the video. it's just at a relatively loud setting)
HECK YEAH
HECK YEAH HECK YEAH HECK YEAH
MAKING AMAZING ART WITH THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY HECK YEAH GO HUMANITY
Drone Dragon 1500
1,500 drones light up the sky over Shenzhen on June 22 with a flying dragon
this amazing display kicked off China's Dragon Boat Festival, taking place on the 5th day of the 5th month of the Chinese calendar, commemorating the ancient poet Qu Yuan
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Bad movie I have Dune: Part Two 2024
#Dune: Part Two#Timothée Chalamet#Zendaya#Rebecca Ferguson#Javier Bardem#Josh Brolin#Austin Butler#Florence Pugh#Dave Bautista#Christopher Walken#Léa Seydoux#Stellan Skarsgård#Charlotte Rampling#Souheila Yacoub#Roger Yuan#Babs Olusanmokun#Alison Halstead#Giusi Merli#Kait Tenison#Tara Breathnach#Akiko Hitomi#Imola Gáspár#Alison Adnet#Hamza Baissa#Hassan Najib#Jasper Ryan-Cater#Omar Elbooz#Abdelkarim Hussein Seli Mohamed Hassanin#Joseph Beddelem#Xavier Alba Royo
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Dune: Part Two (2024) Review
Paul Atreides must unite with Chani and the Fremen whilst also seeking revenge against those who destroyed his family. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Continue reading Dune: Part Two (2024) Review
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#2024#Action#Adventure#Alison Halstead#Austin Butler#Babs Olusanmokun#Based on a Novel#Cat Simmons#Charlotte Rampling#Christopher Walken#Cinema#Dave Bautista#Denis Villeneuve#Drama#Dune: Part Two#Dylan Baldwin#Florence Pugh#Frank Herbert#Giusi Merli#Hamza Baissa#Hassan Najib#Hopi Grace#Jasper Ryan-Cater#Javier Bardem#Jon Spaihts#Josh Brolin#Lea Seydoux#Rebecca Ferguson#Review#Roger Yuan
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#Unleashing Oppenheimer: Inside Christopher Nolan's Explosive Atomic-Age Thriller#oppenheimer 2023#christopher nolan#Jada Yuan#books
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UNRELIABLE NARRATORS; REVIVAL BRACKET MEETS WINNERS BRACKET
THE FINAL DECISION
Shen Qingqiu (SVSSS) vs. Lemony Snicket (A Series of Unfortunate Events)
RULES
For tie sweeps, im giving each match up a 0.2% margin. Additionally, you have to convince me that these two character have something in common besides being unreliable goofiers
Propaganda is very much encouraged :]
Please be nice to each other :( At the end of the day, this is a silly internet bracket with way too many obscure characters to count. remember to touch grass everyone
Polls from round 1-3 will be one day! From there, all polls will be a week, including the finals
The winner of the loser's bracket will go against the winner of the winner's bracket and that winner will be declared the most unreliable
There will be no propaganda on the polls. However I will still reblog art + propaganda in reblogs
There will be new characters so that the bracket is complete. These characters are highlighted in bold.
Main tag (with polls) will be #unreliable narrator battle
List of all characters below (+their match ups and brackets!)
FINALS
Semi Finals
Shen Qingqiu (SVSSS) vs. Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III (How to Train Your Dragon (books))
John Gaius (The Locked Tomb) vs. Nick Carraway (The Great Gatsby)
FINALS
Shen Qingqiu (SVSSS) vs. John Gaius (The Locked Tomb)
!!AFTER THIS, THE WINNER FIGHTS LEMONY SNICKET!!
SIDE A
SIDE B
SIDE C
SIDE D
SIDE A
Round 1
Yoo Joonghyuk (ORV) vs. Patrick Bateman (American Psycho)
Kuruto Ryuki (AI: The Somnium Files Nirvana) vs. The Narrator of Fight Club (Fight Club)
Lee Hakhyun (ORV; Side stories) vs. Wei Wuxian (Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation)
Kaede Akamatsu (Danganronpa V3) vs. Shen Qingqiu/Shen Yuan (Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System)
Cale Henituse (Trash of the Counts Family) vs. Apollo/Lester Papdopoulos (Trials of Apollo)
Noé Archiviste (Vanitas no Carte) vs. Beatrice (Umineko)
Kaz Brekker (Six of Crows) vs. Percy Jackson (Percy Jackson & the Olympians)
Ted (I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream) vs. Dr. John Watson (Sherlock Holmes)
Phone Guy (FNAF) vs. Mima Kirigoe (Perfect Blue)
Every Fic Writer (Real Life) vs. Submitter (Submitter’s life)
Amanda (Amanda the Adventurer) vs. Sunny (Omori)
Edith Finch (What Remains of Edith Finch) vs. The Batter (OFF)
Cersei Lannister (A Song of Ice and Fire) vs. Coriolanus Snow (Hunger Games)
Dr. James Sheppard (The Murder of Roger Ackroyd) vs. Singer of The Main Character (The Main Character)
Odysseus (Odyssey) vs. Victor Frankenstein (Frankenstein)
Louis De Pointe Du Lac (Interview with the Vampire) vs. Narrator of Jane the Virgin (Jane the Virgin)
round 2
Yoo Joonghyuk (ORV) vs. Kuruto Ryuki (AI: The Somnium Files Nirvana)
Lee Hakhyun (ORV; Side stories) vs. Shen Qingqiu/Shen Yuan (Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System)
Apollo/Lester Papdopoulos (Trials of Apollo) vs. Beatrice (Umineko)
Percy Jackson (Percy Jackson & the Olympians) vs. Ted (I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream)
Phone Guy (FNAF) vs. Every Fic Writer (Real Life)
Sunny (Omori) vs. The Batter (OFF)
Coriolanus Snow (Hunger Games) vs. Singer of The Main Character (The Main Character)
Victor Frankenstein (Frankenstein) vs. Louis De Pointe Du Lac (Interview with the Vampire)
Round 3
Yoo Joonghyuk (ORV) vs. Shen Qingqiu/Shen Yuan (Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System)
Beatrice (Umineko) vs. Ted (I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream)
Every Fic Writer (Real Life) vs. The Batter (OFF)
Singer of The Main Character (The Main Character) vs. Victor Frankenstein (Frankenstein)
Round 4
Shen Qingqiu/Shen Yuan (Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System) vs. Beatrice (Umineko)
Every Fic Writer (Real Life) vs. Victor Frankenstein (Frankenstein)
Round 5
Shen Qingqiu/Shen Yuan (Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System) vs. Victor Frankenstein (Frankenstein)
SIDE B
Round 1
Alctraz Smedry (Alcatraz vs the Evil Librarians) vs. Christopher (The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time)
Benjamin Brynn (Before Your Eyes) vs. Charles Kinbote (Pale Fire)
Neil Josten (All for the Game) vs. The Maid (The House in Fata Morgana)
Grisia Sun (The Legend of Sun Knight) vs. Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III (How to Train Your Dragon (books))
Kvothe (The Kingkiller Chronicle) vs. Margot Garcia/Gottiewriters (An Unauthorized Fan Treatise)
Tobias (Animorphs) vs. Brooke Page (Ever After High)
The Biologist (Annihilation) vs. Varric Tethras (Dragon Age)
The Narrators (Ever After High) vs. Rebecca Bunch (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend)
Mysterious Man (Into the Woods) vs. Briony Tallis (Atonement)
Simon Snow (Carry On) vs. Marco (Animorphs)
Nishijou Takumi (Chaos;Head) vs. Jason Todd (Dc Comics/Batman)
Ulysses (Fallout;New Vegas) vs. Montresor (Cask of Amontillado)
Yukio Okumura (Ao no exorcist) vs. Rue Bennet (Euphoria)
Goob (Meet the Robinsons) vs. Humbert Humbert (Lolita)
Drosselmeyer (Princess Tutu) vs. Haruaki Fusaishi (Raging Loop)
Greg Heffley (Diary of a Wimpy Kid) vs. Joker (Joker)
Round 2
Christopher (The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time) vs. Benjamin Brynn (Before Your Eyes)
Neil Josten (All for the Game) vs. Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III (How to Train Your Dragon (books))
Kvothe (The Kingkiller Chronicle) vs. Brooke Page (Ever After High)
Varric Tethras (Dragon Age) vs. Rebecca Bunch (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend)
Mysterious Man (Into the Woods) vs. Marco (Animorphs)
Jason Todd (Dc Comics/Batman) vs. Montresor (Cask of Amontillado)
Yukio Okumura (Ao no exorcist) vs. Goob (Meet the Robinsons)
Drosselmeyer (Princess Tutu) vs. Greg Heffley (Diary of a Wimpy Kid)
Round 3
Christopher (The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time) vs. Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III (How to Train Your Dragon (books))
Brooke Page (Ever After High) vs. Varric Tethras (Dragon Age)
Marco (Animorphs) vs. Jason Todd (Dc Comics/Batman)
Goob (Meet the Robinsons) vs. Greg Heffley (Diary of a Wimpy Kid)
Round 4
Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III (How to Train Your Dragon (books)) vs. Brooke Page (Ever After High)
Jason Todd (Dc Comics/Batman) vs. Greg Heffley (Diary of a Wimpy Kid)
Round 5
Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III (How to Train Your Dragon (books)) vs. Greg Heffley (Diary of a Wimpy Kid)
SIDE C
Round 1
Bilbo Baggins (The Hobbit) vs. Kuzco (The Emperor’s New Groove)
Jonathan Sims (The Magnus Archives) vs. The Narrator (The Stanley Parable)
Gideon Nav (The Locked Tomb) vs. Monika (Doki Doki Literature Club)
Patroclus (Song of Achiles) vs. Dean Winchester (Supernatural)
John Gaius (The Locked Tomb) vs. Edie (What Remains of Edith Finch)
Leshy (Inscryption) vs. Daniil Dankovsky (Pathologic)
Jeramie Brasirie/Jeremy Brasirie (Ohsama Sentai King-Ohger) vs. Jude Duarte (Cruel Prince)
Nelly Lockwood (Wuthering Heights) vs. Taylor Herbert (Worm)
Rachel (The Girl on the Train) vs. Dr. Malcolm Crowe (The Sixth Sense)
Grace Marks (Alias Grace) vs. Guy Pearce (Memento)
Yoo Jongwoo (Strangers From Hell) vs. Prince Huai (The Imperial Uncle)
Nadeko Sengoku (Monogatari Series) vs. Odokawa (Odd Taxi)
Rashomon Cast (Rashomon) vs. Narrator of Death in the Woods (Death in the Woods)
The Narrator of Slay the Princess (Slay the Princess) vs. Lloyd Allen (Shaperaverse)
Dr. Money (Presentable LIberty) vs. Nana Daiba (Revue Starlight)
Jane (The Yellow Wallpaper) vs. Squealer (Animal Farm)
Round 2
Kuzco (The Emperor’s New Groove) vs. Jonathan Sims (The Magnus Archives)
Gideon Nav (The Locked Tomb) vs. Patroclus (Song of Achiles)
John Gaius (The Locked Tomb) vs. Daniil Dankovsky (Pathologic)
Jeramie Brasirie/Jeremy Brasirie (Ohsama Sentai King-Ohger) vs. Nelly Lockwood (Wuthering Heights)
Dr. Malcolm Crowe (The Sixth Sense) vs. Guy Pearce (Memento)
Yoo Jongwoo (Strangers From Hell) vs. Odokawa (Odd Taxi)
Rashomon Cast (Rashomon) vs. The Narrator of Slay the Princess (Slay the Princess)
Nana Daiba (Revue Starlight) vs. Jane (The Yellow Wallpaper)
Round 3
Jonathan Sims (The Magnus Archives) vs. Gideon Nav (The Locked Tomb)
John Gaius (The Locked Tomb) vs. Jeramie Brasirie/Jeremy Brasirie (Ohsama Sentai King-Ohger)
Dr. Malcolm Crowe (The Sixth Sense) vs. Odokawa (Odd Taxi)
The Narrator of Slay the Princess (Slay the Princess) vs. Nana Daiba (Revue Starlight)
Round 4
Gideon Nav (The Locked Tomb) vs. John Gaius (The Locked Tomb)
Dr. Malcolm Crowe (The Sixth Sense) vs. The Narrator of Slay the Princess (Slay the Princess)
Round 5
John Gaius (The Locked Tomb) vs. The Narrator of Slay the Princess (Slay the Princess)
SIDE D
Round 1
Holden Caulfield (Catcher in the Rye) vs. Scout (To Kill a Mockingbird)
Alex (A Clockwork Orange) vs. Guy Montag (Fahrenheit 451)
Jay Gatsby (The Great Gatsby) vs. Nick Carraway (The Great Gatsby)
Alex Eggleston (YIIK: A Postmodern RPG) vs. Joe Goldberg (YOU)
Chief Bromden (One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest) vs. The Mother (Pumpkin Eater)
Theo Decker (The Goldfinch) vs. Pi (The Life of Pi)
Amy Dune (Gone Girl) vs. Josh Newman (The Secrets of the Immortal NIcholas Flamel (SINF))
Kukuide Kei (Ultraman Geed) vs. Darkstalker (Wings of Fire)
Tsurugi Kamishiro (Kameh Rider Kabuto) vs. Vanora (Vincent; The Secret of Myers (VTSOM))
Gareth (Philadephia Here I Come) vs. Rune Saint John (The Tarot Sequence)
Keyser Soze (The Usual Suspects) vs. Jane North-Robinson (Horrid)
Ben (The Sin Eaters Confession) vs. Mars (The Honeys)
Lacey (Lacey’s Diner) vs. Katrina Kim (Liar Dreamer Thief)
Charlie Gordon (Flowersfor Algernon) vs. The Narrator of Greater Boston (Greater Boston)
Italo Calvino (If on a Winter’s Night, a Traveler) vs. Ted (How I met your Mother)
Claudia (Monday’s Not Coming) vs. Rosie Amo/Agent Red (The Admistration Podcast)
Round 2
Scout (To Kill a Mockingbird) vs. Alex (A Clockwork Orange)
Nick Carraway (The Great Gatsby) vs. Joe Goldberg (YOU)
Chief Bromden (One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest) vs. Pi (The Life of Pi)
Amy Dune (Gone Girl) vs. Darkstalker (Wings of Fire)
Vanora (Vincent; The Secret of Myers (VTSOM)) vs. Rune Saint John (The Tarot Sequence)
Jane North-Robinson (Horrid) vs. Ben (The Sin Eaters Confession)
Lacey (Lacey’s Diner) vs. Charlie Gordon (Flowersfor Algernon)
Ted (How I met your Mother) vs. Rosie Amo/Agent Red (The Admistration Podcast)
Round 3
Scout (To Kill a Mockingbird) vs. Nick Carraway (The Great Gatsby)
Pi (The Life of Pi) vs. Amy Dune (Gone Girl)
Vanora (Vincent; The Secret of Myers (VTSOM)) vs. Ben (The Sin Eaters Confession)
Lacey (Lacey’s Diner) vs. Ted (How I met your Mother)
Round 4
Nick Carraway (The Great Gatsby) vs. Amy Dune (Gone Girl)
Vanora (Vincent; The Secret of Myers (VTSOM)) vs. Ted (How I met your Mother)
Round 5
Nick Carraway (The Great Gatsby) vs. Ted (How I met your Mother)
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Saturday Status Update
REQUESTS: CLOSED
The wait time for a request is: 42 working days
Upcoming charts (if the sample size is large enough):
One Piece - Roronoa Zoro, Usopp
Hunger Games - Coriolanus Snow
Star Trek Discovery - Christopher Pike
Strange New Worlds - Christopher Pike
Game of Thrones - Brienne of Tarth
Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
DC Comics/DCU - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
She-Ra - Catra
Genshin Impact - Kong | Aether
My Hero Academia - Hawks
Inuyasha - Inuyasha
Vinland Saga (Manga) - 10 most popular ships (English only)
Interview With The Vampire (2022) - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
Scum Villain's Self Saving System - Shen Yuan | Shen Qingqiu
Bridgerton - Cressida
Doctor Who - Thirteenth Doctor, Fourteenth Doctor
Alpha/Beta/Omega Tag - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
Street Fighter - 10 most popular ships (AO3), Chun-Li
The Amazing World of Gumball - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
Apex Legends - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
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Inside Out - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
Julie and the Phantoms - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
Cars - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
Good Omens - Gabriel
Attack on Titan - Levi, Jean
RWBY - Weiss Schnee, Ozpin, Ironwood
Baldur's Gate - Shadowheart
Gangsta - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
MCU - Thor
Mob Psycho 100 - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
One-Punch Man - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
Steven Universe - 10 most popular ships (AO3)
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hi! I always find your takes on things really interesting and mentally stimulating, so I'd love to know your opinion on this one: recently I came across the take (from some generally very conservative and reliable Christian theologians/bible teachers, not reddit crackpots or anything like that) that the concept of "friendship" is not biblical, but that the only really biblical structures for human relationships are within a family context, specifically marriage and siblinghood. (now, a caveat: the people discussing this were doing so within the context of a greater conversation about some odd things that have happened within the side-b movement, but I still think that's a pretty extreme claim to make at any rate?) would you have an opinion that you'd like to share about this? personally I think it's a little weird and extreme to denounce friendship as a whole amongst Christians.
Sorry I got caught up in watching this video. I consider the 3 people in it to be very decent sources, indeed, though I'm much less familiar with Christopher Yuan. I had planned to read his book but haven't read it yet.
Mrs. Butterfield has a very interesting perspective on SSA issues given her background. I don't necessarily agree with her on everything, she has a few strange takes, for example she also espouses a view on "exclusive psalmnody", that is, claiming that Christians shouldn't sing hymns or other christian music, but ONLY the psalms because they are in the Bible.
Ironically, she HAS written a lot of stuff on the need for closer Christian community and relationships, so it may be that she is here attempting to "balance" this stuff or something.
So... looking at this video they start off addressing not "friendship" as such but a very specific concept called "spiritual friendship", which is a terminology used by specific groups. Now, I hope these guys are misunderstanding what's going on here because I would love to believe the best of the folks who are a part of this movement. But what they're attacking is actually this idea promoted by an organization called ReVoice that it's a good idea for SSA people to form these "covenental" relationships with a person they're already same-sex attracted to. He also mentions that the book says some people in these relationships "embrace non-sexual romance". It's also been described by some as a "sexless marriage".
Before I get into it one other thing I like about the video is that Rosaria makes a really great point about Gnosticism and "secret knowledge". The idea that there need be this new terminology or "neologisms" and concepts whose spiritual meanings are known only to the initiated and that they can only be understood because by those who have unique personal experience is a very gnostic idea.
And one thing Christopher Yuan is very correct about is that from this (Side B) movement there is a great deal of messaging ambiguity, which is a major complaint of mine as well about that movement.
Then they get on to this part of the video where it's discussed how some people think intersex conditions existed prior to the fall, which is a bizarre claim on its surface since these people are frequently very sick from their condition, as well as obviously the "He created them male and female" line. But that's not as relevant to your concerns.
But I understand why you feel concerned about aspects of the video & the messaging.
That's because isolated from the context of SSA, none of the things mentioned are actually bad things to do with your friends. Cuddling. Celebrating important dates. Even living together, or in communal settings (as much as they dunk on it because it's inspired by the monasteries) or moving from place to place together. So when does this become unhealthy? I don't wanna give an "I know it when I see it" answer but. I think it's when a person has a temptation and they're not fleeing that temptation, instead they're trying to see how close they can get without going over.
So like yes. Individuals called to celibacy can struggle with community and need to form strong communities, and I feel like it's adding to the Bible to arbitrarily condemn the forms this takes. (That is, to condemn communal living would be adding to the Bible.) Again I feel like also this conversation is missing an honest look at pre-20th century norms which might include unrelated adults called "Uncles" or "Aunts" living with a family (surprising number of cases of unrelated household members getting, "adopted" as it were or at least that's my impression). None of this stuff should be considered intrinsically related to sexuality in my opinion. By contrast, the concept of "romance" is intrinsically related to sexuality.
(As an aside, Yuan totally butchered the term "bromance" - this is an older term that actually has nothing to do with homosexuality, it's an ironic/humorous term for an emotional or close friendship. It's fallen out of general use now because people take the idea of friendships becoming gay too seriously and therefore the ironic intent is lost.)
Then later Rosaria Butterfield gets to the part about excessive androgen production in people with XX chromosomes, and her response to this is, "Or maybe the fall just caused us to desire things that God hates". My response to this is really, "does she even know what the word intersex means"?
To me those last two points contribute to my general sense that the commentators are willing to speak without fully knowing what they're talking about.
Back on the topic of "friendship", you have to realize that even if all Christian relationships ARE to be defined in a family context, we ARE family. All Christians are brothers and sisters. So I don't see that as limiting. [maybe this is the closest thing to an answer to your original question]
Personally my views are marked by the fact that I do NOT see a smooth continuum between "friendship" and "romance", as it is not a matter of degree but of nature. That's why I say "I know it when I see it." SSA creeping into a friendship will corrupt its nature in a way that any degree of closeness will not. I don't see any way of policing this by policing people's actions. It is not an external sin, it is a sin of the heart.
However, you can often realize people's intentions based on the words that they speak. I would urge people to distinguish their conception of close friendships from this terminology related to sexuality, marriage, or romance.
#christianity#side b#side x#friendship#asks#note.#they confessed to not understanding the line about 'disability theologians'#but i know what that was referring to#and its worse than they think#the book they were critiquing is saying that some disabilities would have existed pre-fall#as in#like blindness#because it's an identity characteristic#therefore it would be 'offensive'#to call it a result of the fall#which i strongly disagree with obviously bc its antibiblical
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