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Oh…. I have a bit of a rant to go on lol. (Not gonna be extra mean)
The main ‘mean girl’ in Miraculous Ladybug, Chloe aka Queen Bee (superhero alter-ego), was getting some ‘redemption’ over the course of season three. But in the final episode (two-part finale) of the season, she joined Hawk Moth and Mayura to become Miracle Queen, and revealed the identities of all the other holders (except Ladybug and Chat Noir) to HM, and became the Mad Queen of the show.
The entire fandom started to complain about this, calling the writers ‘sexist, or ‘butchering her character’. I disagree for a few reasons, and here’s why -
Butchering a character is as if they were in another series and screwed over completely (you likely understand this based on your posts I’ve seen in the Naruto fandom), or crushing how they were on the path to success and doing good but making them go insane last-minute. This wasn’t the case for Chloe, as the show ISN’T over yet and we still have two more seasons that are official on the way and a movie. There are several more examples of this in media, but I won’t name names because I could trigger some people who dislike the character lol.
Chloe didn’t show many signs of progress to me this season, personally. She still treated Sabrina like her slave, was a bully to Marinette and her friend group, and was pretty much at fault for the entire situation with Miraculer (imo). Long story short, she wasn’t/isn’t ready to be redeemed… YET.
I believe that the right person could make her change. Not Sabrina (considering she’s scared of Chloe), Marinette (as she has her own things and is done with Chloe’s BS), not Adrien, BUT maybe her parents could as Audrey’s coming back to Paris for good.
Chloe could learn to be better through seeing that her mother is so crappy to people, and if she sees some of herself in that, she’d see why Ladybug didn’t want her to become Queen Bee after the Queens’ Battle arc and start to actually change for good.
Chloe was selfish in the Queens’ Battle arc, on that hand, because SHE is the one who transformed on camera for the entirety of Paris to see because she wanted her mother’s attention. Not that I don’t blame her for wanting her mom’s attention and I don’t think Audrey is a bad parent (which she is), but that was HER decision to become QB onscreen.
Chloe’s way to redemption will be through learning from her mistakes, apologizing to everyone for the aftermath, and most of all, doing it in spite of her herself, and NOT her parents, Adrien, Sabrina, Ladybug, or anyone for that matter. Chloe will do it for Chloe.
I don’t hate her as a character by any means, but this is, in my opinion, her fault in the first place, because as Ladybug has told every Miraculous holder from Rena Rouge to Viperion ‘Your identity must remain a secret’, because she wants to keep them and their families safe from akumas. Chloe failed at that order, plain and simple.
I also don’t believe she’s irredeemable, or that she’s worse than Lila. On topic of her (Lila), she literally TEAMED UP with a supervillain terrorizing the city everyday, willingly gets akumatized, and got Marinette EXPELLED from school. If it wasn’t for the sudden urge of them all calming down, she very well would have been akumatized that day into Princess Justice - and that would’ve been it. Game over for everybody if LB/Mari is akumatized and Hawk Moth is controlling her. The user @galahadwilder has a much better analysis of this than I do, and he’s even given me permission to write a fanfiction on it.
At the end of the day, Chloe just pits people against her. Lila however, does the opposite. She pits people to be on her side and against others, and she almost came close to doing that with Marinette in the episode ‘Ladybug’ (also where she got expelled for a while).
Lots of people in the fandom hate on the class for believing Lila, but how many episodes did this happen in? Only one. Just because Alya, Nino and the other classmates were poorly characterized in ONE episode doesn’t mean we all should go out of our way to hate on them and make them OOC in our fanfiction: They’ve turned Rose into a snappy and rude friend instead of the sweetheart she is in canon, Mylene into a loud and obnoxious bully instead of the meek and mousy girl we know canon as, and OH MY GOD. Words cannot describe how much I hate the false characterization of Alya, making her tear up Marinette’s sketchbook, violently hurting her and so on.
Alya ‘I’m the best friend to Ladybug/Marinette ever’ Cesaire would never do that. She’s been there for Marinette from episode one, always helped her when it comes to Adrien, and much more that you’d see in canon (once you begin the show). She is probably the greatest friend in this show to Marinette, point blank. This same thing applies to Nino.
But these same people want to turn Chloe around in two seconds and make her be all sweet and kind with Marinette and turn Mari into this bitchy, bossy, and controlling delinquent and turn Chloe and Kagami along with Luka and sometimes the weather girls Aurore and Mireille into her lapdogs. It’s boring to see and I hate it. The class doesn’t deserve this insane amount of hate they receive from the fandom. If you read @galahadwilder‘s post on this after finishing the series, you’ll see exactly why him, I and many others believe this.
Long story short, here’s what I think: Chloe has a chance for redemption (I know it will happen, Thomas is just saying it won’t to tease us/not spoil the show), Lila is a horrible person who I absolutely do not want to see redeemed, the show isn’t badly written, Chloe’s character wasn’t butchered, and the class are all great friends to Marinette and always will be.
I know this got crazy long and I got a little heated about some things, but thank you for the ask! Hopefully this is a good example of what to watch out for in the fandom/perspective of the show and its characters once you start lol. (The classmates are my children.) (And how to not paint the class as villains if you ever write fanfiction for ML, XD.)
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The rest of the week (part 2)
We were so surprised by the reaction part one got! It made me so motivated to write, I’ve got so many more parts finished now. @thelaziestgeek you asked to be tagged, so here you go. We hope it’s as good as you thought part one was ;)
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“Mum? Dad? I wa- We need to talk,” Marinette put her fork down. Her parents turned to her from their meal.
“What is it?”
“I’d like to change schools.”
“What happened?” Sabine asked, worriedly turning to Marinette. “Is it Chloe?”
“N-no, not really,” Actually, now that she thought about it, Chloe had been tolerable recently. Maybe her turn with the Bee miraculous had done her some good.
“Then what’s wrong?” Tom asked.
“I- It’s- I don’t want to blame anyone,” I don’t want to make things harder for anyone she added in her head. “But there’s someone in the class that… I don’t get along with, and-“
“Marinette, you can’t just change school because you don’t get along with someone,” Tom held his daughter’s hand.
“Tom’s right. You are strong enough to work through this, I know you can Marinette.”
“No, you don’t get it. She’s made my life awful, and has convinced everyone- everyone- that I’m some kind of terrible person.”
“Marinette, I think you’re being a bit dramatic. You and Alya-“
“Alya thinks I’m being selfish, Dad. Please.”
Her parents looked nervously at each other.
“Please. I nearly akumatised today.”
That caught their attention.
“Ladybug was there, and caught the akuma before it reached me. Mum, Dad, I’ve tried so hard. I’ve done what you said, I’ve fought so hard, I’ve tried to be a good person no matter what. But all of that could have been for nothing if Ladybug hadn’t been there. I’ve tried so hard to work this out with my class, but… I can’t do this any more. Please. I- I give up. I give up. I give up.”
The amount Marinette has cried today, you’d think she’d be done. But she can feel the familiar prickling in her eyes.
A warmth surrounded her, and she found herself wrapped up in a hug by both her parents. “Shh,” Tom whispered. “It’s alright. It’s alright.”
“I’m not sure we can get you in a new school at such short notice,” Sabine said, tucking some hair behind her daughter’s ear. “But would it work to change classes?”
“And never, ever, say that you gave up,” Tom added. “Because you didn’t, okay? It takes strength to know when you’ve reached your limit. And it sounds like you’ve passed it, okay?”
“You’re so strong, Marinette. It’s not giving up, okay? You do so much for your classmates. I think it’s time you start to think about yourself.”
“And… We’re sorry we didn’t see that you needed this.”
Marinette sniffed. “No, don’t say that. Please, you guys are awesome, I just…”
“Tomorrow, we’ll go to school early and talk to Principal Damocles, okay? Are you sure you can’t tell us the name of the student? We could get him to talk to them-“
“No!” Marinette said, a bit too loudly. Her parents looked concerned. Marinette took a breath. “Please. I just want to get away. Changing classes sounds great, Mum.”
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“I’m sorry, but I’m afraid I can’t let you change classes on such short notice.”
The words were like a blow to the chest.
“Is there no way?” Tom asked.
“I am sorry, Miss Dupain-Cheng.” Mr. Damocles said to Marinette.
Her head hanging low, Marinette left the Principal’s office, her parents on either side of her.
“Dupain-Cheng?” A familiar voice broke her thoughts.
“Ugh. Hey Chloe.”
“What are you doing here this early?” Chloe was wielding a selfie collage, which she quickly rolled up.
Marinette’s parents opened their mouths, but Marinette beat them to it. “I was actually asking to change classes.”
Chloe looked at her in surprise. Marinette had to admit she was surprised too, but the words had just come out.
“And… Could you?”
“No.”
There was a pause, where Chloe glanced at the two adults glaring at her. “W- Was it… Was it me?”
Marinette glanced up at Chloe, surprised at the guilt in her tone. “Wha- No! I just-“
“Lila then?”
Marinette glanced at her parents, who were frowning at her. “Yeah.” She admitted.
Chloe watched for a minute, then nodded. She pushed the collage into Marinette’s arms, then stormed into the office that had just been vacated. The Dupain-Cheng’s glanced at each other, then followed her.
They entered a scene where a grown man was cowering before a blond teenager. Said teenager was waving her phone in his face. “Excuse me? You won’t let Dupain-Cheng change classes?”
“I- Well- Short notice- Time- No reason-“
“I think you’ll find there is a reason!” Chloe lifted up her mobile. “And that reason is that if you don’t let her change, then you will find my Daddy getting involved!”
“Now now- there’s no need-“
Chloe lifted her phone to her ear. Mr Damocles cleared his throat. “Really, I can’t change classes on such short notice.” He glanced at the ringing phone. “But… I could change you for the rest of the week? Just this week, then you go back to your old class. Then no major changes need happen.”
Chloe opened her mouth, hesitated, and glanced at Marinette. The blue-haired girl was staring in shock at what was happening. She jerked her head, waking herself up. “Y-yeah! That- that would be great.”
Chloe smiled, not smirked, smiled, and hung up.
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Her parents left the school, after hugging their daughter and thanking Chloe, and probably shaking the blondie’s hand a bit too hard.
Chloe wiped her hand awkwardly on her pants.
“Why did you do that?”
Marinette’s question made Chloe pause. She glanced up at her.
“I- Well. Ladybug did actually.”
Marinette stared at her. She was pretty sure she hadn’t said anything about that.
“Not directly,” Chloe clarified. “But, she spoke to me, and she made me realise, well.” Chloe took a breath. “I want to be a better person, Dupain-Cheng. And I’m not very good at it, but I figure- you looked so unhappy in that class recently, so it must be a good thing if it makes you happy, right?”
Marinette stared at her bully, who had just helped her. Who would have thought that after all this time, it would be Chloe who she was talking with, and not Alya? Her life had done such a huge 360 since Lila had returned. She didn’t even know how it had ended up like this.
“Call me Marinette,” She smiled.
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Marinette’s new class was different.
There were friendship groups that she wasn’t aware of, names she didn’t know. When Ms Mendeliev called out the names, she made sure to pay extra attention to everyone’s name. She was pretty good at remembering names though, so she hoped that would help. A few classmates had been akumatised but not nearly as many as her old class.
Old class. It felt so weird to think, but not having to worry about Lila constantly- even for just the few minutes since she’d entered the classroom this morning- felt like a weight had been lifted off her shoulders. Marinette wondered how she’d feel after a week.
When the bell rang to send them off to their next class, Marinette packed up her things. She yelped in surprise as a hand touched her shoulder.
“Woah, sorry! I just wanted to say hi.” Marinette blinked up at the girl. As if noticing the conversation, the rest of the class paused on their way out.
“You’re Nicole, right?” Marinette asked awkwardly to the short girl. She looked surprised.
“Wow, you’re good with names! Yeah, I am.”
“And I’m Jean.”
“Fleur.”
Names were passed around the class. Marinette smiled.
“My name is Marinette. It’s nice to meet you all.”
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Chloe sat in her seat. In her head, ‘call me Marinette’ was bouncing around and around in circles. What did it mean?
Was it a gesture of friendship? It seemed that way, but why would Dup- Marinette (wow that felt weird) want to be friends with her?
Could it really just be that she had helped her? Was it really that easy? Or maybe it was because she wouldn’t have to deal with her for the week, and she wanted a clear slate?
“Where’s Marinette?”
The name bounced her out of her thoughts. It was Adrien. She turned to him, but he was talking to Nino.
“Uh- she’s probably late.”
“You know Marinette,” Alya laughed, and the trio chucked. “Hey, Lila- Could I have another interview with you for my blog? About your time with Ladybug?”
“Of course! I’d love to-“
“She’s not late,” Chloe interrupted. It even took herself by surprise. The class paused its chat to look at her.
“What?” Alya frowned.
“Dupai- Marinette. She’s not running late, she actually got here early today.”
There were some mumbles going around the class.
“Leave it with your lies, Chloe,” Alya rolled her eyes.
“No- I think I saw her today, now that I think about it,” Mulen spoke up.
A few others admitted to seeing her.
“So where is she?” Alya asked. “What have you done, Chloe?”
“Me? I haven’t-“ Chloe paused. Technically, she did do something.
Alya raised an eyebrow.
“Marinette’s changed classes.”
Shouts broke out.
“What are you talking about?” Alya snapped. Adrien looked hurt.
“Quieten down class!” Ms. Bustier walked in.
“Is it true?” Alya shouted. She was standing up now.
“Is what true?” The teacher looked at her student.
“Has Marinette changed classes?”
The teacher sighed. “Yes, she has- for just the week. Please sit down, Alya.”
Alya ignored her. “Chloe! What have you done?”
“I didn’t make her switch, if that’s what you’re implying,” Chloe rolled her eyes. She hadn’t had she? Or… Maybe Dupain-Cheng was lying? Maybe she just didn’t want to admit to Chloe-
“Oh no, it was me, wasn’t it?” Lila’s sweet voice came from the back of the class. “I’ve been driving Marinette away since I came. Maybe I should just leave…”
The class broke out in murmurs, all of them (and Chloe listened for somebody different, but the closest she got was Alya who stopped talking altogether) comforting Lila.
“Class! Please be quiet!” Ms Bustier called. She seemed tired as she read out the role. When she finished, she sighed and looked up. “Marinette has asked for permission- and been granted permission-“ The teachers glanced and Chloe for a second, which Alya caught, and her eyes narrowed. “To move to the other class for a week. I request that you do not pester her about this, as if she wanted to tell you I think that she would have.”
This statement caused more talking, which the teacher patiently waited out.
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When the final bell rang, Marinette felt content.
She hadn’t realised how hard each day had been, with Lila hissing behind her, Alya falling for each lie, and her classmates glaring at her even when her back wasn’t turned. Today, she hadn’t counted down the seconds until she could leave, whilst simultaneously dread the ringing of the bell, because that means that Alya will turn around to be with Lila. Today, she felt herself relax.
She packed her things back into her bag, then turned to smile at Nicole, who was waiting for her. “Thankyou,” The pigtailed girl smiled, standing up. Nicole grinned back.
“No problem Marinette!” There was a short pause, then Nicole hesitantly asked;
“If… If you don’t mind me asking, why did you ask to move to our class? Was it because…” A small blush appeared on Nicole’s cheeks. “The other class has had so many akumas?”
Akumas…
Marinette took a deep, nervous breath. Nicole eye’s widened. “I’m sorry Marinette! You don’t have to answer! I shouldn’t have pried!”
Marinette put her hand on the other girl’s shoulder. As nice as Nicole was, Marinette had picked up just during that day that she was quite nervous, and really didn’t want to upset anyone.
“No, it’s fine. I don’t want you to feel scared about talking to me Nicole. I just didn’t get along with this gi- person, and I needed a break. Well, I wanted to get away completely, but that wasn’t possible on such short notice. And besides, it’s probably better that it’s only for a week.”
“Why?” Nicole said, then caught herself. “I-If you don’t mind me asking.”
“Of course it’s fine Nicole,” Marinette was careful to say that. Nicole was actually such a sweet girl, and she just needed a bit more confidence! “And, I guess it’s because I don’t want to run away,” Her parent’s words rang in her head. “Well, maybe running away isn’t the right word. But, I think that the constant pressure was getting to me. I just need a moment to figure myself out, without Lilahhhh oops!”
It was too late to figure out that slip up. Nicole blinked, then smiled. “Don’t worry, I won’t hold it against that girl. Besides, I’m so forgetful I probably won’t remember her!”
“Oh, you’d remember Lila alright,” Marinette mumbled under her breath. They stopped at the bottom of the school steps. “See you tomorrow Nicole!”
“Goodbye Marinette!”
“Marinette!” Marinette jumped at the sound of Alya’s voice. She awkwardly turned around to see the reporter walk up to her. “Why did you change classes?”
Huh, straight to the point. Just like Alya.
Marinette took a deep breath. “Please, Alya, can we talk about this tomorrow?”
Her voice took Alya aback. The once cheery, optimistic girl sounded broken, and beaten. She found herself agreeing to Marinette’s terms, then she caught herself. “But no backing out of it, okay?” Marinette didn’t respond, so Alya sighed and walked away.
“Marinette,” No surprise, now it’s Lila’s voice, coming just as Marinette walked out of earshot of everyone else.
“Lila, what do you want?”
“You think changing classes for a week will stop me? If anything, it will help me, because you won’t be there forcing me to change my words.”
“Mmhm.”
Lila paused, and peered at Marinette. The other girl had a look of indifference on her face, and other people would have thought that’s how she felt. But Lila Rossi was a master of emotions, and how to hide them, which means she can see when they aren’t hidden very well. This means she could see the small pain that her words were causing Marinette. Marinette was trying so hard to hide this hurt. But still, it was there. “Don’t you care?”
“I did. A lot. But I need a break, so I’m getting one.”
Lila clenched her fist, then relaxed them. “And what are your friends going to think, Marinette? When they find out that you’ve abandoned them?”
Abandoned?
With that word, Marinette gave up the charade. She didn’t mean to, but there was no way she could hide the pain she was feeling then. Lila smirked. Finally.
“Don’t think that just because you aren’t in my class, I’ll forget about you Marinette. By the time you come back, none of your friends will care about you. You know that it’s true. After all, it’s already happening, isn’t it?”
Lila stepped back to observe the impact each of her words had on her. Satisfied, she turned and left.
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“How was school honey?” Sabine hugged her daughter, and Tom stopped his work to come and see her. They all sat down in the kitchen, and warmth filled Marinette’s heart to see how much they cared about her.
“It was… Pretty good,” Marinette took a piece of fruit, and sat down. She happily told her parents about her class. She hesitated, but mentioned that ‘the girl’ had spoken to her after school, and that Alya wanted to talk tomorrow. Her parents pointed out that it was reasonable, and that if Alya had randomly switched class then Marinette would want to talk too. As to Lila, they wrapped her up in a hug and asked if she wanted them to talk about moving classes permanently to the principal.
“No, please. I think that I actually just need a break. It was so nice in class, and I think I just needed to get away to sort myself out. But, thankyou,” She smiled at her parents. “For caring.”
“You can always come to us, sweetie. I’m sorry you didn’t think that earlier.”
As soon as she got upstairs, Tikki flew out of her bag. “I’m proud of you Marinette!”
Marinette pulled her homework out. “Proud of me?”
“Yes! You could have so easily dodged your parents today, especially after Lila after school, but you spoke to them! It’s not good to keep it all bottled up.”
Marinette smiled. “I guess you’re right. It did feel nice to let it all out. I don’t think I realised how much it was hurting to keep it inside.”
“Well, at least you’re sorting yourself out now. Let’s get started on that science homework!”
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Marinette woke up not dreading school.
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There it is! I hope you enjoyed it, I have a few extra things to add, just explaining my thoughts as I wrote this.
I was planning to have Marinette change schools, but I realised I didn’t want to make lots of new characters it’s not very true to Marinette’s character to just abandon them so completely like that. It is very in her character to be dramatic, so I had her parents be the voice of reason. I instead made her change classes, and I’m not sure where Chloe came from. I guess I was just sick of how the show was treating her. Anyway, she was so much fun to write, I decided I didn’t want to just leave her at that, so I figured that Marinette could return to the class, because then I get to write her!
Expect a lot of Chloe, and a lot a lot of Chloe redemption.
Also, I’ve decided to make it about one day = one part. I have also decided that Chameleon takes place on Monday, completely so that Marinette can have the most time in her different class.
Thankyou for reading all the way to the bottom, we get so excited every time we see a new note, whether it’s a like, or a reblog! Feel free to leave constructive criticism.
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