#chatgpt negatives

[ohhgingersnaps]

I'm seeing some frustration over fandom creatives expressing anger or distress over people feeding their work into ChatGPT. I'm not responding to OP directly because I don't want to derail their post (their intent was to provide perspective on how these models actually work, and reduce undue panic, which is all coming from a good place!), but reassurances that the addition of our work will have a negligible impact on the model (which is true at this point) does kind of miss the point? Speaking for myself, my distress is less about the practical ramifications of feeding my fic into ChatGPT, and more about the principle of someone taking my work and deliberately adding it to the dataset.

Like, I fully realize that my work is a drop in the bucket of ChatGPT's several-billion-token training set! It will not make a demonstrable practical difference in the output of the model! That doesn't change the fact that I do not want my work to be part of the set of data that the ChatGPT devs use for training.

According to their FAQ, ChatGPT can and will use user input to train itself. The terms and conditions explicitly state that they save your chats to help train and improve their models. (You can opt-out, but sharing is the default.) So if you're feeding a fic into ChatGPT, unless you've explicitly opted out, you are handing it to the ChatGPT team and giving them permission to use it for training, whether or not that was your intent.

Now, will one fic make a demonstrable difference in the output of the model? No! But as the person who spent a year and a handful of months laboring over my fic, it makes a difference to me whether my fic, specifically, is being used in the dataset. If authors are allowed to have a problem with the ChatGPT devs for scraping millions of fics without permission, they're also allowed to have a problem with folks handing their individual fics over via the chat interface.

I do want to add that if you've done this to a fic, please don't take this as me being upset with you personally! Folks are still learning new information and puzzling out what "good" vs. "bad" use is, from an ethical standpoint. (Heck, my own perspective on this is deeply based on my own subjective feelings!) And we certainly shouldn't act like one person feeding a fic into ChatGPT has the same practical negative impact, on a broad societal scale, as a team using a web crawler to scrape five billion pieces of artwork for Stable Diffusion.

The point is that fundamentally, an ethical dataset should be obtained with the consent of those providing the data. Just because it's normalized for our data to be scraped without consent doesn't make it ethical, and this is why ChatGPT gives users the option to not share data— there is actually a standardized way (robots.txt) for website servers to set policies for how bots/crawlers can interact with them, for exactly this reason— and I think fandom artists and authors are well within their rights to express a desire for opting out to be the socially-respected default within the fandom community.

[airasora]

Oooh I want the last anon but I’d LOVE to hear more about your thoughts on AI. I currently consider myself pretty neutral but positive leaning with it and am curious as to what the pros are in your opinion! I’ve only really learned about it through chat bots and the medical technology so far!

Thank you for asking and wanting to learn more about it! I will try not to ramble on for too long, but there is A LOT to talk about when it comes to such an expansive subject as AI, so this post is gonna be a little long.

I have made a little index here so anyone can read about the exact part about AI they might be interested in without having to go through the whole thing, so here goes:

How does AI work?

A few current types of AI (ex. chatgpt, suno, leonardo.)

AI that has existed for ages, but no one calls it AI or don't even know it's AI (ex. Customer Service chat bots)

Future types of AI (ex. Sora)

Copyright, theft and controversy

What I have been using AI for

Final personal thoughts

1. How does AI work?

AI works by learning from data. Think of it like teaching a child to recognize patterns.

Training: AI is given a lot of examples (data) to learn from. For example, if you're teaching an AI to recognize cats, you show it many pictures of cats and say, "This is a cat."

Learning Patterns: The AI analyzes the data and looks for patterns or features that make something a "cat," like fur, whiskers, or pointy ears.

Improving: With enough examples, the AI gets better at recognizing cats (or whatever it's being trained for) and can start making decisions or predictions on new data it hasn't seen before.

Training Never Stops: The more data AI is exposed to, the more it can learn and improve.

In short: AI "works" by being trained with lots of examples, learning patterns, and then applying that knowledge to new situations.

Remember this for point 5 about copyright, theft and controversy later!

2. Current types of AI

The most notable current examples include:

ChatGPT: A large language model (LLM) that can generate human-like text, assist with creative writing, answer questions, and even act as a personal assistant

ChatGPT has completely replaced Google for me because chatGPT can Google stuff for you. When you have to research something on Google, you have to look through multiple links and sites usually, but chatGPT can do that for you, which saves you time and makes it far more organized.

ChatGPT has multiple different chats that other people have "trained" for you and that you can use freely. Those chat include chats meant for traveling, for generating images, for math, for law help, help creating gaming codes, read handwritten letters for you, and so much more.

Perplexity is a "side tool" you can use to fact check pretty much anything. For example, if chatGPT happens to say something you're unsure is actually factually true or where you feel the AI is being biased, you can ask perplexity for help and it will fact check it for you!

Suno: This AI specializes in generating music and audio, offering tools that allow users to create soundscapes with minimal input

This, along with chatGPT, is the AI I have been using the most. In short, suno makes music for you - with or without vocals. Essentially, you can write some lyrics for it (or not, if you want instrumental music), tell it what genre you want and the title and then bam, it will generate you two songs based on the information you've given it. You can generate 10 songs per day for free if you aren't subscribed.

I will talk more about Suno during point 6. Just as a little teaser; I made a song inspired by Hollina lol.

Leonardo AI: A creative tool focused on generating digital art, designs, and assets for games, movies, and other visual media

Now THIS is one of the first examples of controversial AIs. You see, while chatGPT can also generate images for you, it will not generate an image for you if there is copyright issues with it. For example, if you were to ask chatGPT to generate a picture of Donald Trump or Ariel from The Little Mermaid, it will tell you that it can't generate a picture of them due to them being a public figure or a copyrighted character. It will, however, give a suggestion for how you can create a similar image.

Leonardo.AI is a bit more... lenient here. Which is where a lot of controversial issues come in because it can, if you know how to use it, make very convincing images.

ChatGPT's answers:

Leonardo.AI's answers:

I will talk more about the copyright, theft and audio issues during point 5.

3. AI that has existed for ages, but that no one calls AI

While the latest wave of AI tools often steals the spotlight, the truth is that AI has been embedded in our technology for years, albeit under different names. Here are a few examples:

Customer Service Chatbots

Professional Editing Softwares

Spam filters

Virtual assistance

Recommendation systems

Credit Card Fraud Detection

Smart home devices

Autocorrect and predictive text

Navigation systems

Photo tagging on social media

Search engines

Personalized ads

The quiet presence of AI in such areas shows that AI isn't just a future-forward trend but has long been shaping our everyday experiences, often behind the scenes.

4. Future types of AI

One of the most anticipated types of AI that has yet to be released is Sora, a video AI tool that is an artificial intelligence system created by Google DeepMind. It’s designed to help computers better understand and generate human language. Think of it like a super-smart computer assistant that can read, write, and even understand complex sentences. Sora AI can answer questions, translate languages, summarize information, and even help with tasks like writing or solving problems.

Unlike traditional AI systems that mostly focus on text or images, Sora AI can create short videos from text descriptions or prompts. This involves combining several technologies like natural language understanding, image generation, and video processing.

In simple terms, it can take an idea or description (like "a cat playing in a garden") and generate a video that matches that idea. It's a big leap in AI technology because creating videos requires understanding motion, scenes, and how things change over time, which is much more complex than generating a single image or text.

The thing about Sora AI is that it's already ready to be released, but Google DeepMind will not release it until the presidential election in America is finished. This is because the developers are rightfully worried that people could use Sora AI to generate fake videos that could portray the presidential candidates doing or saying something that is absolutely fake - and because Sora is as good as it is, regular people will not be capable of seeing that it is AI.

This is obviously both incredible and absolutely terrifying. Once Sora is released, the topic of AI will be brought up even more and it'll take time before the common non-AI user will be able to tell when something is AI or real.

Just to mention two other future AIs:

Medical AI: The healthcare industry is investing heavily in AI to assist with diagnostics, predictive analytics, and personalized treatment plans. AI will soon be an indispensable tool for doctors, capable of analyzing complex medical data faster and more accurately than ever before.

AI in Autonomous Systems: Whether it’s in self-driving cars or AI-powered drones, we are on the cusp of a new era where machines can make autonomous decisions with little to no human intervention.

5. Copyright, art theft and controversies

While AI opens up a world of opportunities, it has also sparked heated debates and legal battles, particularly in the realm of intellectual property:

Copyright Concerns: AI tools like image generators and music composition software often rely on large datasets of pre-existing work. This raises questions about who owns the final product: the creator of the tool, the user of the AI, or the original artist whose work was used as input?

Art Theft: Some artists have accused AI platforms of "stealing" their style by training on their publicly available art without permission. This has led to protests and discussions about fair use in the digital age.

Job Replacement: AI’s ability to perform tasks traditionally done by humans raises concerns about job displacement. For example, freelance writers, graphic designers, and customer service reps could see their roles significantly altered or replaced as AI continues to improve.

Data Privacy: With AI systems often requiring massive amounts of user data to function, privacy advocates have raised alarms about how this data is collected, stored, and used.

People think AI steals art because AI models are often trained on large datasets that include artwork without the artists' permission. This can feel like copying or using their work without credit. There is truth to the concern, as the use of this art can sometimes violate copyright laws or artistic rights, but there's a few things that's important to remember:

Where did artists learn to draw? They learned to draw through tutorials, from art teachers or other artists, etc., right?

If an artist's personal style is then influenced by someone else's art style are they then also copying that person?

Is every artist who has been taught how to draw by a teacher just copying the teacher?

If a literary teacher, or a beta reader, reads through a piece of fiction you wrote and gives you suggestions on how to make your work better, do they then have copyright for your work as well for helping you?

Don't get me wrong, like I showed earlier when I compared chatGPT with leonardo.ai there are absolutely some AIs that are straight up copying and stealing art - but claiming all picture generative AIs are stealing artists' work is like saying

every fashion designer is stealing from fabric makers because they didn't weave the cloth, or

every chef is stealing from farmers because they didn't grow the ingredients themselves, or

every DJ is stealing from musicians because they mix pre-existing sounds

What i'm trying to get at here is that it's not as black and white as people think or want it to be. AI is nuanced and has its flaws, but so does everything else. The best we can do is learn and keep developing and evolving AI so we can shape it into being as positive as possible. And the way to do that is to sit down and learn about it.

6. What I have been using AI for

Little ways chatGPT makes my day easier

I wanted to test how good chatGPT was at reading "bad" handwriting so I posted a picture of my handwriting to it, and it read it perfectly and even gave a cheeky little answer. This means that I can use chatGPT to not only help me read handwritten notes, but can also type out stuff for me I would otherwise have to spend time typing down on my own.

I've also started asking chatGPT to write hashtags for me for when I post on instagram and TikTok. It saves me time and it can think of hashtags I wouldn't have thought of myself.

You might all also be aware that I often receive bodyshaming online for simply existing and being fat. At least three times, I have used chatGPT to help me write a sassy comeback to someone harassing me online. It helped me detach myself from the hateful words being thrown at me and help me stand my ground.

And, as my final example, I also use chatGPT for when I can't remember a word I'm looking for or want an alternative. The amazing thing about chatGPT is that you can just talk to it like a normal person, which makes it easier to convey what it is you need help with.

Custom chatGPTs

I created a custom chatGPT for my mom with knitting recipes where she can upload pictures to the chat and ask it to try and find the actual knitting recipe online or even make one on its on that could look like the vibe she's going for. For example, she had just finished knitting a sweater where the recipe failed to mention to her what size the knitting needles she had to use, which resulted in her doing it wrong the first time and having to start over.

When she uploaded a picture of the sweater along with the recipe she had followed, chatGPT DID tell her what knitting needle she had to use. So, in short, if she had used her customized chatGPT before knitting the sweater, chatGPT would have saved her the annoyance of using the wrong size because chatGPT could SEE what size needle she had to use - despite the recipe not mentioning it anywhere.

I also created a custom chatGPT for my mom about diabetes. I uploaded her information, her blood work results, etc. so it basically knows everything about not just her condition, but about HER body specifically so it can give her the best advice possible for whenever she has a question about something.

And, finally, the thing you might have skipped STRAIGHT to after seeing the index...

My(un)official angsty ballad sung by Holli to Lina created with suno.ai

Let you be my wings

7. Final personal thoughts

While AI is absolutely far from perfect, we cannot deny how useful it has already become. The pros, in my opinion, outweigh the cons - as long as people stay updated and knowledgeable on the subject. People will always be scared of what they don't know or understand, yet humanity has to evolve and keep developing. People were scared and angry during the Industrial Revolution too, where the fear of job loss was at an all time high - ironically ALSO because of machines.

There are some key differences of course, but it was the overall same fears people had back then as people have now with AI. I brought this up with one of my AI teachers, who quoted:

"AI will not replace you, but a person using AI will."

While both eras involve fears of obsolescence, AI poses a broader challenge across various sectors, and adapting may demand more advanced skills than during industrialism. However, like industrialism, AI may lead to innovations that ultimately benefit society. And I, personally, see more pros than cons.

And THAT is my very long explanation to why my bio says "AI positive 🤖"

As a final thing, for anyone wanting to stay updated on AI and how it's progressing overall, I recommend a YouTube channel by Matt Wolfe. He was my AI teacher's recommended YouTube channel for anyone who wants to stay updated on AI:

[mezmer]

Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[adhdheather]

truly nothing makes me feel as anti-technology as discussions in my society & technology class

[opisasodomite]

The research librarians are giving a presentation on how we might use generative AI at work and one thing they suggested was “grant writing” and honestly, if you use ChatGPT to write a grant application I don’t think you deserve that money tbh

[cyatzura]

i usually have no problems to just unfollow people but i always thought if i started to unfollow people because of annoying ai posts then i would have to unfollow like 70% of my dash but now that i decided to remake i feel like i can finally say how annoying people on here about ai omg

[seveneyesoup]

also i think we should go back to calling ai “bots” like “this page was written by a bot” “this was drawn by a bot” etc etc bc that makes them sound way less cool + capable + trustworthy

[dilfsuzanneyk]

if one more person tells me to "just use chatgpt" for an essay or a creative writing assignment i'm going to get very violent

[waxflowerwoes]

inside of me there are many things but one of the more recent things that is also growing is a burning hatred for ai. if i could i would destroy it all in an instant. it's not worth the devaluing of human art. kill it kill it with fire i want its head on a spike. amen.

[somegiantmess]

This tool seems promising! All your questions about climate change answered through AI based on the most reliable sources ever, i.e. the IPCC and IPBES reports (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services)

[yippeecahier]

CW: suicidality

I'm not going to lie, as someone who has struggled with their self-worth for as long as they can remember, this AI shit feels like an existential threat to me.

I just recently started actually liking myself and nurturing my love of art and writing, caring for my body and mind. I keep telling myself that I still have value as a human being, especially in my job as an educator. Yeah, AI can generate lesson plans and explanations that are differentiated but unlike AI I have the benefit of being able to curate a human relationship with, and being a model human adult for, my students - things no AI generator can do. I'm not even worried about my students cheating by submitting AI-generated essays - it's their loss if they can't defend or understand their work in discussion; that's already been a thing for a long time what with students submitting work their parents did for them and myriad ways to cheat that predate the internet and AI.

But this fear keeps creeping up, clouding my thoughts and feelings: what if that's not enough to justify my existence? As AI becomes more sophisticated, who needs or even wants me to write or draw anymore? What if no one cares about having me or anything I can do for them anymore? I mean yeah, sure, I can still "create for myself," but I crave validation and attention from other humans for it. That's normal. I need my existence justified to shut the voice that keeps telling me that life isn't worth living up, and seeing those reasons stripped in the space of less than a year is life-ruining, actually. If I only have one reason left to live: being a warm human being capable of some empathy (with effort because I have autism), that seems really fucking shaky. How long before that's gone, too? How long before I'm nothing but a useless entity consuming resources, content, and space while creating pollution but bringing nothing of value to anyone else?

My entire self-esteem and worldview came crumbling down when I asked ChatGPT to write a version of my honors thesis and it copied sentences from my actual thesis without citations. My years of hard labor and study chewed up and spat back out at me in seconds. I'm not joking when I say that shit makes me kind of want to die.

They're making it more and more sophisticated so that the plagiarism/AI generation detectors can't keep up. I remember being told that AI would be in the future, probably in my lifetime, and the only way to not become obsolete was study coding and create the AIs and AI generators. Yeah? Well, ChatGPT makes functioning code now too. I'm fucking terrified, angry, and sad all at the same time.

If I became completely obsolete I don't know if I would be able to fight off the suicidality anymore.

[lexosaurus]

I know the OP is saying this in a bit of a lighthearted way to be nice but I'm not that nice and I'm frankly really appalled at what I've been seeing so I'm going to explain why you shouldn't do that.

AI CANNOT create on its own. It's not that smart. Anyone who's ever built any sort of language AI can tell you with 100% certainty it's not that smart. It can "learn" and it can "create" sentences, but it needs to be fed a language to do so.

So it will only ever "create" based on what it's fed. This is absolutely crucial.

There are ethical ways to do this. I did this in my undergrad with my class, taking .txt files of old classic books and feeding them to our programs for words/sentences. That way our programs were only ever "creating" from works that did not break copyright laws.

But feeding an AI someone else's fanfic? Yeah, now you've given the language model SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK to learn off of WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION.

It doesn't matter that it's a fanfic and technically, the author does not own the characters/setting. They created the story, they engaged in creative exercise, so that fanfic is theirs. YOU do not have the right, legally, to take THEIR work and do what you want with it, much less feed it to an AI who will take their work and now use it to further its language learning.

Especially since AIs like Chat GPT have a payment model. Now someone else is making money off of a fanfic author's work, and YOU directly contributed to that.

So if you do that? Fuck you. Sincerely.

Hi,

It’s you friendly neighbor fanfic author here. In the light of this apparent new trend of people feeding unfinished fics to AI to get an “ending,” and some people even talking about “blanket permissions,” let me just say this:

I EXPLICITLY FORBID ANYONE TO FEED MY FICS TO AI. DUDE, THAT IS ABOUT THE LEAST RESPECTFUL THING YOU CAN DO. IF YOU DO IT, SHALL YOU BE EXCOMMUNICATED FROM YOUR FANDOM AND WALK ON LEGOS BAREFOOT TILL THE END OF DAYS.

That is my anti-permission.

Thank you for your attention.

[omegaphilosophia]

Liberalism vs. Individualism

While liberalism and individualism share common ground, particularly in their emphasis on personal freedom, they can come into conflict in terms of how that freedom is understood and applied, especially regarding the role of the state, social responsibilities, and economic structures.

Key Points of Conflict:

State Role in Protecting Freedom:

Liberalism, especially in its modern form, supports the protection of individual rights through government intervention when necessary. This can include laws that ensure equality, regulate economic activity, or provide social safety nets.

Individualism tends to advocate for minimal state intervention, focusing on personal autonomy and self-determination. From an individualist perspective, even liberal efforts to protect rights through government involvement may be seen as restrictive or paternalistic.

The conflict arises when liberal policies, such as social welfare programs or regulations, are viewed by individualists as infringing on personal responsibility and freedom, while liberals see them as necessary for ensuring fair access to opportunities and rights.

Collective Responsibility vs. Personal Autonomy:

Liberalism, especially in its modern form, promotes collective responsibility for ensuring that all individuals have access to basic rights, education, healthcare, and economic opportunities. This often involves redistributive policies or regulations aimed at promoting equality and reducing social inequalities.

Individualism prioritizes personal autonomy and believes individuals should be responsible for their own lives, free from collective obligations imposed by the state or society. This leads to a preference for personal freedom over state-enforced social programs.

The conflict surfaces when liberal policies require individuals to contribute to collective welfare (e.g., through taxation for social programs), which individualists may resist as an overreach that limits personal autonomy.

Equality vs. Meritocracy:

Liberalism often emphasizes equality of opportunity, seeking to ensure that everyone has a fair chance to succeed, regardless of background. This can include policies aimed at addressing social inequalities, such as affirmative action or welfare programs.

Individualism focuses on meritocracy, believing that individuals should rise or fall based on their own efforts and abilities. From this perspective, equality of outcome is not a priority, and policies that artificially level the playing field are seen as unfair or counterproductive.

The tension arises when liberal efforts to create more equitable conditions are perceived as undermining the meritocratic values that individualists hold, particularly when these efforts are seen as rewarding individuals regardless of effort.

Freedom from Government vs. Freedom through Government:

Liberalism often sees the government as a necessary tool for ensuring that individuals can enjoy their freedom (e.g., through anti-discrimination laws, regulations on monopolies, or social safety nets). This "positive liberty" approach argues that freedom is meaningful only when individuals have the real ability to exercise their rights.

Individualism champions freedom from government (also called "negative liberty"), where the absence of government interference is the highest expression of personal liberty. Individualists argue that the more government interferes in personal or economic life, the more individual freedom is constrained.

The conflict is centered on whether true freedom comes from the presence of government ensuring fair conditions or the absence of government allowing individuals to act without restriction.

Social Justice vs. Individual Freedom:

Liberalism, particularly in its modern, progressive forms, often emphasizes social justice, where laws and policies are designed to address systemic inequalities and promote fairness across society. This may involve interventions to address historical injustices, systemic discrimination, or economic disparities.

Individualism places a higher value on individual freedom, where individuals should be free to pursue their own success or failure without being obligated to correct social inequalities they did not create.

The conflict comes when individualists view liberal policies aimed at achieving social justice as imposing unfair burdens on individuals (e.g., affirmative action or progressive taxation), while liberals see such policies as necessary for creating a fairer society.

Community vs. Individual Interests:

Liberalism acknowledges the need for community interests and cooperation, where the well-being of the whole can justify limiting certain individual freedoms for the greater good (e.g., environmental regulations, public health mandates).

Individualism prioritizes the individual's interest over the collective, often resisting policies that limit personal freedom, even if those policies are meant to protect the community as a whole.

The conflict emerges when liberal policies that benefit society at large are seen by individualists as infringing on their personal liberties, such as mandatory health insurance, environmental laws, or collective bargaining.

Although liberalism and individualism both value freedom, they diverge on the role of the state, the importance of social responsibility, and the balance between individual rights and collective welfare. Liberalism often seeks to protect and promote freedom through government action and social justice, while individualism emphasizes personal autonomy and minimal interference, even if it means accepting greater social inequalities.

[minecraftrelatedrandomness]

to pirates smp gang, an age-old question by now:

edit: this is about the npcs being run on ai and not necessarily the npcs as characters

[otterandterrier]

also, today I had to edit/make posts about an article on using AI in therapy fml 😂

[spiritual-core]

😭🤣, chatgpt being sarcastic on one of my recent tumblr posts:

If you’ve got a project to write, the message is clear: no matter how chaotic your life is, you can’t avoid it forever. Your project is an extension of you, whether you like it or not. The more you pour your messy life into it, the more genuine and emotionally manipulative it might become. #vulnerability #writing #sarcasm