#character tag: Nettle

[dragonfyre-creations]

I finished his ref like MONTHS ago and forgot to post it so uh here

Pirate man..

(his name is Nettle and he's an Admiral :)) )

[peppermint-moss]

Got a donation on my ko-fi that got us to reach TWO behind the scenes stretch goals!! thank u thank u!!

These are all the characters' 'base' colours! For each blue/pink/purple scene I'd put the corresponding blue/pink/purple colour (seen at the bottom of the first image) at 100% Soft Light over them (with a clipping mask) to tint them appropriately C:

I made sooo many character designs for this amv haha; usually different/side characters don't show up as much in my amvs that I honestly just make them up on the spot lol. But this time a lot of side characters appeared multiple times so I actually designed them out beforehand (and I started to have fun drawin lil guys hehe)

Oh yea forgor: the lil note beside Darktail's eye; I originally wanted the lake to be blue to match the symbolic colour of Needle's like despair n stuff, But through the course of making the amv I realized I wanted the lake she drowns in to be purple because she's doing it for Violetpaw!! So in the amv the water ended up being blue for just a moment when Dark pushes her underwater, then back to its purple :')

And the second BTS is the sketches for the thumbnail! I started in my sketchbook to brainstorm n then moved it over to digital (that digital sketch needle has like one paw raised but then i was like. That looks weird lol)

commission info || ko-fi (tip jar; for every $8 in donations I share a BTS!)

[chaos-of-the-abyss]

did hotd really give daemon sexual fantasies of his mother as if alyssa didn't die when he was three... he'd barely even remember her face?? they really have time for all this stupid irrelevant shit but cut nettles from the plot huh. and relegated baela and rhaena to minor roles. i can't

(though tbf ryan condal apparently said something about "aegon the conqueror's time in valyria" in an interview, and rhaenys said something like "let's go to battle again, meleys" in one scene, so. no idea what to call the show-verse but it is not the world of asoiaf)

[aliferousdreamer]

where is alys rivers where is alysanne blackwood where is nettles where is sabitha frey where is daeron targaryen where is jeyne arryn

[juniorfor2]

I cannot believe that Ryan Condal seems to be making ANOTHER character in the show his mouthpiece (and for some bullshit magic explanation). Jace would never say, “our Valyrian histories, meant to gild us in glory.” Where does that work with his character, where has his characterization developed to make us think he would say such a thing? Oh wait, it hasn’t. Also, there would have been plenty of Valyrians who couldn’t ride dragons, why would they lie?

I had heard that Ryan Condal didn’t believe that one needed dragon rider blood to ride a dragon, but I didn’t think they’d be shoving it in so soon like that. And I knew that he fundamentally misunderstood magic in ASOIAF, but did he really have to be so weird about it. And just throw out all the lore?

One thing a writer MUST understand when it comes to magic, is that it must be grounded. It cannot have rules that are thrown out at a moment’s convenience, it must have very clear lines that are not to be broken. If a crystal ball gives someone visions, it can’t then two books later give someone the powers of a god. How magic works in a universe must be clearly understood by anyone who cares to take even a small amount of time.

GRRM, even with so many characters and different types of magic on different continents that isn’t always clear, manages to understand this where C&H don’t. He generally picks a certain area, and out of that area only a certain few that have the genes may access certain powers. Otherwise, it must usually be asked with blood magic.

Only the First Men have warging blood, but not everyone has the actual power. The genes passed through a few of the Starks (Bran, Rickon), and is more prominent in the free folk (Orwell, unnamed others, referenced as a normal part of life). NO ONE ELSE GETS IT THOUGH. Not the Lannisters, or the Baratheons, or the Targaryens (excluding Bloodraven because of his mom). ONLY those with First Men blood have the potential to access this power.

Out of all the Valyrian houses, only 40 houses were able to ride dragons. This points to the genes being fairly exclusive, they aren’t just mutating all the time to produce the genes/magic to ride dragons. Now, out of the 3 houses that fled the Doom, only one has the most prominent genes to ride dragons. If House Targaryen or another dragon-riding house ever married with the main Velaryon or Celtigar line pre/post Doom, then they also have carriers and occasional riders (Addam). BUT ONCE AGAIN, NO ONE ELSE CAN ACCESS THIS POWER. It is a power established through blood.

If that rule, after now being established in both the First Men and the Valyrians, is broken, then none of the lore makes sense and any magic can happen. There’s no way to make predictions in ASOIAF, no way to understand who gets to do what. Hereditary magic cannot be written and tossed aside for fun or random whim (looking at you Nettles. I know your ambiguity is important, but we know you’re not non-Valyrian cause that breaks the rules).

All other magic accessed, typically through R’hllor or the once of Dany’s fire magic, must be through blood or death. The sentence “only death pays for life” works for this. Dany got her fire magic by sacrificing Drogo, her son, and Mirri to the fire. Lady Stoneheart comes back, and kills the Frey men. Stannis summons a shadow monster, and kills his own brother.

GRRM UNDERSTANDS how magic must work when created. He knows it must be grounded, and he doesn’t even include that much of it to ensure it doesn’t get out of hand. Ryan Condal, however, does not.

Ryan Condal, and any other writers, throw around magic when convenient. The Iron Throne is insinuated to cut whenever someone makes a mistake in ep1. It shouldn’t say anything, because Aegon created it to be an uncomfortable seat and getting cut would be fulfilling that very purpose, but they give credence to a myth that GRRM has already implied is false.

“Cursed? It’s a throne made of swords!”

The White Stag shouldn’t mean a thing, but for some reason now it represents the rIgHtFuL ruler. Is there no such thing as a god ordained ruler for animals? Correct, but ignore that I guess.

Somehow making people experience magical hallucinations (they are magic, yes, Condal said it) is just shoved in with no explanation. How is Alys doing this, why is she doing it. Even Melisandre and Thorros of Myr had an explanation for their magic and a reason for using it.

And now in s2 ep5, the magic is just erased? It’s such a wishy washy conversation that I don’t even know. Now, it doesn’t matter if you have dragon blood? Or it must be thick? These people don’t know how genes work, so what are they saying and how would they know? The dragonseeds are already established to have the blood/genes, so what’s the point of the saying anyways for the audience? And why would bastards be recorded? There’s no reason. Everyone who married out of the family died or their children married back into the main line so they’re out too. It’s just incoherent.

Writers, you cannot be so irresponsible with magic. You must establish your rules, you must stick to them (preferably just grab GRRM’s rules). You need to be better. Even if you disagree with some of the rules or change them, MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

[alphashley14]

With Tumblr communities now a thing… who else would totally join a Scooby Doo! Mystery Incorporated community if it was a thing? 👀

I mean it’s a tiny niche fandom from a “kid’s show” that ended over 10 years ago and was low key even when it came out. Seems like exactly the kind of thing a Tumblr community would be perfect for.

[lagosbratzdoll]

I find it odd and by odd I mean racist that ever since that stupid show cast the Dragon Twins as Black girls, there's been an uptick in Jace/Sara content/shipping.

Before the dumpster fire started, reasonable people agreed that Sara Snow was not real, but now you cannot go five minutes in Jace or Baela’s tag without seeing someone wish they'd include Sara Snow in the show.

They say it'll deepen Jace’s character and make him “interesting”, whatever that means. The problem with this assertion is that Jace is already plenty interesting, he led the war councils while his mother grieved, and he recruited the blacks' most important allies. Allies who remained steadfast even after his mother's and his own demise.

Furthermore, Jace has existing relationships in his life that the show could explore to delve into his connection with bastardy. Three of whom are canonically Black, by the way.

So, the question arises: what unique perspective or insight can Sara Snow provide to Jace's struggle with his bastard status that Nettles, Addam, and Alyn cannot?

[actualjenna]

some pen and ink portraits of nettle, olle, pyrus, and ines 🧄🧄🧄

[eirika-braveheart]

i really really hope rhaena doesn’t claim sheepstealer. please. if you really want her involved in the war why couldn’t she have claimed grey ghost. or somehow claimed the cannibal. like it wouldn’t make sense but it would make more sense than erasing nettles

[atopvisenyashill]

ultimate hater take is that there are two types of targ nation people, there's the rabid twitter people who think every single targ except like three or four (usually aegon ii, aemond, aegon iv, sometimes maegor and aerys ii) are Undisputed Uncomplicated Heroes Of The Story and that the series will end with a targ restoration happy ending. then there's the targ nation people who think basically every single historical targ was a villain EXCEPT FOR dany and she is not only the Undisputed Uncomplicated Hero Of The Story but will absolutely burn/sack both Vaes Dothrak and Volantis but these will be Good Things because she's killing slavers.

[doedipus]

a large amount of time I've been spending on -untitled undefined scope original fiction project- since the last time I posted about it has been trying to develop the protagonist concept I came up with last summer or whatever into like, a character that would feel real and era appropriate.

it's fun research to do. naturally a lot of the details I assigned to her are things that I already think are cool, so it's been a lot of fun trying to trace her traits back through the relatively recent past, getting reminded of how much things have changed, or where the gaps in my intuition are, and then doing a flurry of reading to get a sense for exactly how someone like her and the people around her could have happened and what her life was probably like leading up to her present day. hopefully this results in some good good verisimilitude.

[dragonfyre-creations]

Nettle :D plus a really bad rendition of his ship's flag as the background

Mishmash of the sea/night simple icons done by CarnivorousRuse! Eventually I'll actually draw an icon of him lmao

[paladinbaby]

the chariot / the hanged man / the hermit / temperance

[Image Description: Four tarot cards featuring the pcs of the home game Library of Lensa. The cards are all in simple frames and have the number of their card at the top. The first is @strangetorpedos character Nox in the chariot card. Nox is a purple tiefling with black horns and a red mullet in a white T-shirt and jeans. He’s visible through the window of a wooden door between two bookshelves. An open book rests on the ledge of the window and a streak of light twists around their raised right hand. There are stars circling their head.

The second is @creacherkeeper’s character Bo in the hanged man card. Bo is a white man with red hair lying on a beam with his hands behind his head and a worried look on his face. He wears boots, cargo pants, a gold breast plate with a rose on it, and a small glowing pendant that’s falling into the empty space behind him.

Next is my pc Nettle in the hermit card. Nettle is a white woman with white hair and glowing eyes in a green dress. She holds a ball of light in one hand and the strap of her leather satchel in the other. She has scuffs on her knees and a scrape on her arm that are also glowing.

The last is @punkbarbarian’s character Kai in the temperance card. Kai is a Japanese Hawaiian man dressed in all black with a shaved head and black bat wings. They are looking down at two mugs they are holding connected by a wisp of blue smoke. He is standing in front of a cherry blossom tree with one foot on a grassy bank and the other dipping into the edge of a lake. End ID.]

[wonder-worker]

Open request: please stop reblogging my Empress Matilda posts and tagging them with Rhaenyra Targaryen, I hate that stupid show

[bohemian-nights]

you're a weirdo, stop talking shit about rhaenyra and daemyra while supporting nettles and daemon as a couple, rhaenyra was fucking groomed by daemon just like nettles, he's not a good person but neither is rhaenyra so stop acting like daemon and nettles where victims of evil queen rhaenyra, when she had every reason to think that nettles was going to betray her too

Oh my god I’m surprised it took this long to get hate for my posts

Is this your queen 👸🏼?

I’m not making Rhaenyra “out to be the evil queen.” Your queen flipped out when she thought Daemon was “cheating” on her with Nettles.

There is no basis for Rhaenyra’s hate of Nettles other than her general paranoia(of bastards no less which is ironic as hell) which was stoked by a butt hurt Misery.

I never called Daemon her victim. He is/was a grown a** fictional man. He was never her victim. I even said that Rhaenyra was groomed by him.

Nettles was about to become her victim though. She could have asked Nettles to be brought in for questioning, but she went straight to murder(to “free” her husband from a “low creature who stinked of sorcery”)

Thank God Daemon said not on my watch because Nettles got to live to see several other days. Daemon protected his maiden:

We all know what happened to Rhaenyra. Your ship 🚢 is stale 🤷🏽‍♀️

[juniorfor2]

It’s kind of insane to me that the ONLY reason that people watch HotD is because of Nettles. According to them, if Nettles is cut out, then “what’s the point of watching the show, I only watched because I wanted to see Nettles dunk on VaLyRiAn SuPrEmAcY.”

I mean, they seriously only watch a series that they KNEW would be about the Targaryens, was focused on Targaryen history and themes, with a Targaryen protagonist that spans 30 years, just for a girl that’s barely part of the book.

It’s not even confirmed that she’s non-Valyrian!!! It’s a theory made up by FANS, I’m fairly sure it isn’t even suggested by GRRM. Glydayn, Munken, and Mushroom are definitely racist, but their only theories are to disparage the idea that Nettles could be viewed as pretty or accomplished because of her skin color. Their ideas were used to suggest that Nettles was a whore, or to then backtrack to say that she was “a skinny brown girl” that oBvIoUsLy couldn’t be attractive.

Nettles is definitely important, but (at least in my opinion), her ambiguity is the most important thing about her story. How others perceive her, not just in-universe by maesters, but by the fandom is more important than her origins. How the audience allows their theories around her to be guided by the racist thoughts of maesters, all while claiming that they themselves aren’t racist, is more important her actions.

Even the HOW of people deciding whether or not Nettles was Daemon’s lover or his daughter, is more important than the actual truth of the matter.

In the actual story, Nettles really doesn’t do that much. Her main thing is being loyal and flying around with Daemon to hunt Aemond. The only conflict she (supposedly) causes is between Daemon and Rhaenyra. And while it actually is fair criticism to say that Nettles’s story only being important as black girl causing conflict between two white people is a bad plotline, people then using a person of color to alienate and insult other people of a foreign culture is not ok. People conflating GRRM’s unfortunate internalized racism (that yes, he tries to go against, but occasionally fails at) with the personalities of the characters themselves is not ok.

People need to let their ideas of Nettles go. She’s important, and she certainly should not merge with Rhaena as if black women are interchangeable, but she is not an avenue of debunking Targaryen “supremacy”. HOTD is racist, but I honestly think that the way some people are reacting is almost more racist/xenophobic itself.