#calypso bashing

[w3ndytheraccoon]

Vengeance Saga is coming out in a day and I would like to say something regarding I’m Not Sorry for Loving You

I better not see anyone using that song as an excuse for Calypso. That song is an explanation for her character, not an excuse. The song is literally about how she’s not sorry for trapping and unintentionally abusing Odysseus for seven years.

It’s not an apology (Literally in the name. If it was then it’s a pretty bad and victim blamey apology), it’s not an excuse, it’s just an explanation. And I will be damned if people use it to excuse her, gods know there’s enough Calypso apologist in the Epic fandom and just in media related to the Odyssey in general.

[amazingmsme]

did u ever think of ler!Calypso and lee!odysseus?

Oh I’ve def thought about it lmao. She’s so clingy & touchy feely & he’s so flustered about it. But I don’t really see myself writing a fic with them because of the nature of their relationship, & I’ve been seeing a lot of Calypso hate, so I’m kinda hesitant to write anything with the 2 of them together. I would love to write something with Calypso, but just not with him

Plus, I can’t help but see her as more of a lee (it’s that sweet lil giggle)

[o-wild-west-wind]

On my birthday I’d like to share the card my friend/partner in brainrot made for me a year ago, which might be the single greatest thing I’ve ever received:

(s/o to the geniuses who created these memes—I don’t remember who made these but I’m kissing you on the mouth whoever you are)

[musecraft]

so anyway, happy birthday calypso !

[caelum-et-ocean]

HE’S SO…..😻😻😻😻

[edensgardener]

🌺🏮🌈🍁October 19th! 🍁🌈🏮🌺

✅ mark your calendars, fam!!

so is 🌸🏮Calypso's Birthday🏮🌸 gonna be the biggest 🏳️‍🌈queer🏳️‍🌈 holiday celebration now or what

[smudgeandfrank]

RAISE YOUR MOTHER-F*CKING GLASSES TO OUR GODDESS CALYPSO CAT, OR FEEL HER ABSOLUTE WRATH!! 🩵🐈‍⬛✨Calypso cat throws the BEST bash once a year in honor of her ✨fabulousness✨!! Kiss her paw to show your devotion, and you are invited to her purrfect party!! 🩵🐈‍⬛✨

[lunee43]

Okay soooo I might get bashed for saying this but unpopular opinion coming and a rant hopefully this is a safe space;

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Six hundred strike was amazing musically: unlike many I enjoyed the beginning of the song but by the end I was a bit put off because how does Odysseus, a mortal defeat a literal god, not just a god but POSEIDON god of the fricken sea and earthquakes? Like it’s a cool concept but it’s just… makes Poseidon look and seem weak then in the ocean saga. Sure Odysseus became a “monster” but he’s still a mortal, I also find the “six hundred strike” silly like Odysseus did that?…. Using a wind bag?

I enjoy the concept but the plot kinda turns it off for me (not that it’s bad please don’t bash me) Poseidon is one of the 3 major gods, I feel like Odysseus was made to be too overpowered I’d understand if there was a power boost or divine intervention. Poseidon is made to seem weak which contradicts seeing him as a threat. It strays from the original Odyssey way more in this song, and the song is very amazing though I find it silly how Poseidon was defeated and how Odysseus is way too over powered.

And let’s talk about the animation, the person who made it is so very talented but I feel it doesn’t fit, the jet pack windbag? Boss battle? Interesting but it really put me off when I listened and watched it it kinda ruined the aspects for me.

Overall in the end I feel six hundred strike had a good concept and was very great musically but I personally didn’t like the plot of Odysseus defeating Poseidon so easily I mean the man has many different powers aswell? Anyways this is just my personal opinion

Another rant: Also I loved the song “I’m not sorry for loving you” though I feel like if I even said that out loud I’d be bashed by the fandom because, yes, calypso is a bad person I know but the song is really nice and musical it doesnt mean I like the things she’s doing to Odysseus.

Another rant (apologies); I feel like everyone is too blindsided with Odysseus, a lot of people blame everyone but him a lot like he’s just a “cinnamon roll who loves his wife so much and the crew are all a-holes” because like eurylochus he also made mistakes aswell he tries to keep his crew alive abd get home but we do have to accept that this was from Greek mythology he is a flawed character aswell and I enjoy him for that. It makes the audience connect with Odysseus.

Another thing, wisdom saga— I feel Telemachus is used like a child a characterization of a child or teenager unlike the 20 year old he is. It’s a bit off putting for me. And it’s possible to make him innocent and grown such as the use of Polites. Personally he’s like an embodiment of a child and it’s weird to me because he’s a prince and will be king, shouldn’t he have some roles?

Now another thing connecting onto what I just said about “Odysseus does no wrong” ALOT of people in the fandom seem to use Eurylochus as a scapegoat for their hatred and anger to who’s at fault when it’s really the gods and fate, it’s just something the fandom has created to put the anger on why Odysseus couldn’t get home quickly, and I can understand because we look through Odysseus’s perspective throughout the musical. But personally I feel like Eurylochus gets too much hate he is sadly the scapegoat. Even the crew, but it’s saddening because they also have lives, they had family, they are mere mortals what are they to do? What would you all do in these situations if you didn’t know Odysseus’s plans and inner monologues? How would you act?

It’s honestly saddening you can’t like eurylochus without a person spewing about why they hate him, heck I’ve even seen just simple cute TikTok and art about the man but people place hatred within the comments about the character. And it’s only him, you could like Odysseus, polites, perimedies elpenor, Circe, etc. but hate Eurylochus?

<<This is all I have to rant about this is a safe space on my acc for all opinions so you can comment your own opinions, just don’t be mean to eachother>>

(I’m most likely gonna get hate or bashed sadly for having these opinions though I genuinely enjoy the musical a ton. I feel the fandoms grown a bit toxic lately.)

[valzhanginator]

calypso having an emotion-centered character and being viewed & getting treated as the ‘evil woman’ is actually a reflection of how every woman's emotions are villainized when they’re shown vividly and are a main part of their character in popular media.

in general media and riordanverse specifically, women with emotions are always looked down upon because showing emotions is regarded as a dramatic act so when a female character shows and acts on their emotiotions they get degraded and instantly despised because of it. this is done with every single female character while male characters who show emotion are treated like saints and found worthy of self redemption. this happened with annabeth when she didn’t want to believe luke was the bad guy and wanted to try bring him back because she was manipulated by him her entire life, meanwhile luke, who did batshit crimes like causing hundreds of innocent deaths, manipulating little girls by flirting with them, admitting his crush to a 16 year-old at his ripe age of 23, is remembered as a hero and considered ‘redeemed himself’ after sacrificing himself while annabeth was called insufferable when she didn’t believe he was evil in the first place. let’s not forget piper, who’s a lesbian that was forced into a relationship with a man by a goddess and thought she was in the wrong for not feeling right with jason. during the entire relationship she was experiencing a very hard comphet and couldn’t figure herself out because of the fake memories, everybody was bashing her when she was acting confused, when she was, in fact confused. i have a longer post about this specific topic, so if you guys wanna check it out it’s right here. 

 coming back to calypso, first we need to clear out the misconceptions about her curse on percy that affected annabeth. she wasn't blind nor was personally attacking annabeth, her curse was to make someone feel like how she was feeling all time and that’s why percy and annabeth couldn’t reach out to one another while being right next to each other. annabeth’s blindness came from the titan she defeated in the sea of monsters and is actually the first curse to be put by the arai on them, so it has nothing to do with calypso. the curse was affecting annabeth because she happened to be the person percy loved and was right next to him. if percy was there alone either percy would feel alone and abandoned or the curse wouldn’t affect him at all, since there’s no person he can go back to save. and the curse itself wasn’t even a death wish type of curse she just wanted to be heard, be acknowledged and wanted free off her island. not to forget the curse wasn't harming or killing any of them yet it’s still demonized more than by literally every other thing that happened in the books. nothing luke has ever done is seen as evil as her curse just because it was by her and i’m pretty positive if something like this was shown in pjo by luke it would be glossed over and romanticized in the fandom. further proof of how a male character's actions get brushed off and forgiven easily but soon a female character does something even slightly questionable they get villainized on the spot.

she is also despised because she doesn't let everyone's favorite man get away with his misogynistic stuff. calypso doesn't treat leo any worse than he treats her. whenever she starts arguing it is a response to something leo has said or done, which in the most case she's in the right but leo gets so much slack from his past and being fandom favorite to be held accountable for the way he treats people. he's always been written as a misogynist, he never treated any women with any respect. he always had some sort of disrespect for every female character he seems have some sort of closure with like piper, hazel, calypso, the list goes on, but yet calypso is always expected to be more 'tolerable and understanding' bc of his trauma, as if every single character in the series isn't written upon a single trauma they had and have their character built on it. and he always had a problem dealing with others and their emotions and instead of expecting him to be working to change that, calypso is expected to adjust his manners.

oddly enough, she's also expected to show some gratitude towards leo for saving her, when she never asked him to do so and not for a second believed that he was actually going to come back when he said he would. is she grateful that he came back and freed her? yes. should she feel any obligations to make him feel greater because of it? NO. everything leo did for calypso was his and only his choice and nobody else's. calypso is happy that he did so, but expecting her to tolarate every single thing he does solely because of that is wrong.

[floofyboi57]

EPIC is such a great interpretation of the Odyssey, remaining faithful to the original while also expanding upon the characters and adapting some stuff for better story beats

….that is to say if I see one more person bashing Calypso I’m going to lovingly hit them with a bat :3

[lookingthroughmirrors]

What do you think about Percy and Nico or Pernico?

(Please no hate, I know people have a lot of opinions and this is simply mine based on my interpretation of the characters and not meant as an attack on anyone)

Hi 👋

I really like pernico, at least in some of the fanfics I’ve seen but I prefer it when they’re older and come back together. I really think the Percy and Nico friendship gets overlooked quite a bit, personally because I think a lot of people see Nico as a kid, and in comparison don’t see Percy like that.

I mean that more so when it comes to Bianca. I’ve seen different takes that it was Percy’s fault, that Percy purposely hurt Nico, that Percy doesn’t deserve to mourn Bianca.

1. I think Pernico no matter when it’s set, needs to address Bianca in some capacity, because it is such an integral part of their arc. I think for Percy there is always a guilt that he’ll have, survivor guilt or otherwise about what happened to Bianca and that should be acknowledged. It is also the first death that happens so directly in front of Percy, and his reaction shows that in comparison to later deaths in botl and tlo. Percy was used as a scapegoat in this situation for Nico’s anger at Bianca’s untimely death (and her somewhat abandonment of him but that’s a whole other thing). I think this is why I like older pernico so much, because often times they’ve dealt with or are dealing with this to some extent and I don’t see how the ship would work without first dealing with this.

2. I think the ship only works once Nico is passed the hero worship and later hatred of Percy. I think Nico has a lot of issues he needs to deal with and that he’d have to be doing that first before pernico could work. Tho I do love doomed relationship fics. I think they’d both have to reevaluate how they view one another for it to work (ie. Percy was a child put in an impossible situation, Nico was the same, the blame game was played, Nico is not one extreme or the other). Moral of the point, they need to sort their individual shit out first, and their issues between each other before a relationship could work, but I really think it would and really love the idea of them being together.

3. In some aspects I think Pernico, after going through points 1 and 2, is healthier than what I know of Solangelo or Percabeth in canon. Now this isn’t bashing but I do think both Solangelo and Percabeth are toxic in ways that aren’t as wildly addressed both in canon and fanon. The stuff with Nico’s powers always bothered me. He’s extremely powerful, and i think he kinda ends up nerfed in later books and things like Will banning him from shadow travelling for his health. One point is I think a child of Hades knows more about shadow travel and it’s affects than a child of Apollo, doctor or not. I also think that Nico had a tendency to overextend his powers in canon, which it’s shown when Percy does the same thing he’s heavily drained, nearly passes out ect. I think Percy would be able to help Nico in exercising his powers, as I think that’s the big issue really. I also think Nico as a character would be very tied to the Greek world and live more in that world than the mortal world, which despite canon I think would suit Percy. I think the whole New Rome College thing is odd, and he’s clearly going for Annabeth. Percy hated school, and I think it’s much more likely he went on to train halfbloods or worked in legion in New Rome than going to university.

(This is so much longer than I intended, sorry)

Overall, I think Percy and Nico (both in a relationship and as friends) have a lot of potential that wasn’t lived up to. There are definitely ways it could be toxic, but not more than any other ship has the potential to be if broken down (Percabeth, Piper and Jason and the fact he had no memory, Solangelo, the weirdness that is Leo and Calypso). Ultimately I think Pernico can prove to be a stronger ship than a lot of others too, because they’ve seen each other at their worst, they’ve seen each other stripped back and raw and grieving and they have seen each other in ways nobody else has. Percy knew Nico before he lost Bianca, he knew that side of Nico. Nico saw Percy through the war, through everything during the last Olympian. He saw him command the river Styx and wasn’t scared (which begs the comparison of Percabeth in Tartarus and Annabeth making Percy feel so bad about a particular power that he wouldn’t use it even when it meant he would die and ultimately had to be saved by a third party). They’ve seen each other grow and change, and that in turn changes people. I truly think once you get past the trauma that taints all their interactions, once they address and move past it, they are much better than many other ships. They seen the worst, and I think with that they’d find it much easier to be vulnerable with one another and show parts of themselves that they don’t show anyone else. I definitely like Pernico far better than Percabeth.

I honestly didn’t mean to write an entire essay on Pernico and my opinions but here we are. If you’ve read this far I hope I answered your question.

[doc-killjoy]

ships as songs in my playlist (prepare ur eye bleach, brothas)

DISCLAIMER: I AM A MULTISHIPPER

𝐒𝐎𝐋𝐀𝐍𝐆𝐄𝐋𝐎- love the ship they’re such cuties 11/10

Flares by The Script (I love this song and it suits them sm)

𝐏𝐈𝐏𝐀𝐁𝐄𝐓𝐇- I ship most of the time? 8/10

I Wanna Be Ur Girlfriend by Girl In Red (I LOVE THIS SONG IT MATCHES W THEM LIKE NO OTHER)

𝐏𝐄𝐑𝐂𝐀𝐁𝐄𝐓𝐇- I love but sometimes the dynamics bash together 9/10

Can I Call You Tonight by Dayglow (song is fire and I feel like it suits Percy’s pov abt Annabeth)

𝐕𝐀𝐋𝐆𝐑𝐀𝐂𝐄- MY OTP MY POOKIES I LOVE THEM JASONS ALIVE 17283/10

This Charming Man by The Smiths (the words suit them and can go from both povs but suits Leo the most also good song)

𝐉𝐄𝐑𝐂𝐘- I ship them as bros to lovers I’m sorry only cuz they’re one shots are amazing 8/10

End Of The Beginning by DJO (love the song idk I feel like they’d duet it on karaoke night (the extended 7 have karaoke nights fight me))

𝐕𝐀𝐋𝐙𝐇𝐀𝐍𝐆- the ship is so cute and cuddly and the altered enemies to lovers is so adorable 9/10

The Stars Collide by whatsaheart (the lyrics are everything and the contrast of the song to the lyrics is cool)

𝐅𝐑𝐀𝐙𝐄𝐋- their ship is sweet but also not taken seriously 7/10

Space Song by Beach House (idk it suits the chill happy nostalgic vibe they give off)

𝐂𝐀𝐋𝐄𝐎- first of all, fuck you. I HATE THIS SHIP SM EWW IT SHOULDNT HAVE HAPPENED GROSS-

I Don’t Love You by My Chemical Romance (I’m manifesting ok? From Leo’s pov cuz I can’t wait for him to dump and girlboss calypso also the song is great)

[liaromancewriter]

Birthday Bash

A/N: It’s Max and Cassie’s birthday on October 5 (in 45 mins where I am). Instead of doing a Twin-only celebration, they fly their friends and loved ones to Manhattan for an extravagant birthday weekend. This pic was taken at the end of a wild night of partying and shenanigans.

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Submissions: @choicesficwriterscreations @openheartfanfics

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[omen-of-ice]

How would the ROs react with shy mc?

Daeron: He’d be gentle and patient. Having met a variety of people over his many years alive, Daeron never wishes to people into doing things that they’re not ready to do (unless the time truly calls for it). Would go at your own pace and wait for you to come to him— knows what it’s like to pushed into a corner without any hope of escape; he wouldn’t wish to make you feel that way. Ever.

Larak: Wouldn’t truly understand it— would liken you to a field mouse. Being an Orc, he’s taught to take what you want, when you want it; to put yourself out there, even if it’ll leave you with scars and more pain than it’s worth. Because trying, at the end of the day, makes you feel more alive then simply letting things pass you by. He’d get used to your mannerisms though and learn to work around them (after a lot of blunders).

Calypso: She’d find it absolutely adorable. Calypso isn’t timid, nor is she afraid of putting herself out there, but she understands people that are more reserved/shy. She’d try her best to get you out of your shell and see the world for the beautifully wondrous place that it is. May be a bit overbearing at times though.

Shanaera: She’s quite reserved herself. Wouldn’t say she’s shy, by any means, but she’d probably be able to connect a bit more with an MC that is over the others. She’d simply let you go at your own pace, not even batting an eye, as she has to deal with a variety of people that can be even more timid than you. Trying to get a freaked out pixie to talk is a chore… She’d enjoy the soothing silences between you both; nothing needed to be spoken for things to be felt.

Fáelán: Has been with you for a long time— they understand your mannerisms completely and wouldn’t change you for the world. They can be quite timid at times too— although that can also quickly melt away into brashness— but they’d easily take on the mantle of being outgoing to get things done; as they’d never wish for you to do something that you’re not comfortable in doing.

Valerian: You’ve just gotten so much cuter in their eyes. A darling creature that’s scared to peek your head out of your shell? It’d entice them more and make them even more keen to get to know you— to figure out what you’re like when you finally do come out more. Would relish in that shyness and try to make you even more bashful— a knowing smirk on their face all the while.

[i-am-traveling-the-multifandom]

Defending Caleo about:

Age difference:

This is something I have seen a lot of people say, 'Calypso is ancient', 'This is basically pedophilia', etc. Now if we talk about it, she is way older than him, but it doesn't actually matter. Because she is an immortal, a titan. You can't expect Rick to make her a teenager, though she has the looks of a teenager. But so are the Olympians, Apollo is shipped with Hyacinth and Daphne, and he is way older than them. Sally x Poseidon shippers should also keep in mind that he is one of the oldest gods to walk on earth. So why would you target calypso and not the others (I respect all ships and am not bashing these shippers).

Every ship that includes a deity is technically a pedo ship. And if you ship an immortal x immortal than it is probably incest. Soooo, I am going to stick with this beautiful CANON ship.

[dax-enfinity]

I was listening to "Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown On a Bad Bet", and it low-key gave me some Nicoby vibes. Like, idk I see the vibes.

ooh??

i love fob

okay, some lyrics that gave me nicoby vibes:

And does your husband know the way That the sunshine gleams from your wedding band? Does he know the way? Does he know the way Of the crickets that would convince me to call it a night?

But I will never end up like him Behind my back, I already am Keep a calendar, this way you will always know The last time you came through Oh, darling, I know what you're going through The last time you came through Oh, darling

this entire song could obviously be seen from toby's point of view, clearly addressing nico and his 'husband' (will)

Does he know the way I worship our love? Does your husband know the way That the sunshine gleams from your wedding band?

i can turn this into will solace bashing omg (lets gooo- *gets shot*)

(same thing with misery business to turn it into calypso bashing)

i feel like a lot of songs could fit nicoby but specifically from toby's point of view, i haven't found any song that fits nico's point of view and stuff

unlike natleo lmaoo