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incorrectsibunaquotes · 1 year ago
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shizunitis · 4 months ago
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We should give Bing-ge someone worse and stronger than him to fall in unrequited love with. I wonder what would happen.
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beannoss · 23 days ago
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Hi Bean!
I have a question for you! I have noticed in your writings that Twilight and Yor begin a romantic relationship after their secrets are revealed. Are you opposed to any romance between them before they find out? I assume if so, it’s because it’s morally questionable, though a lot of fans find romance before compelling as it raises the stakes considerably. I’m not suggesting one is right and the other is wrong, I’m just interested in your take on this! I love your writing! Thank you! 😊
Hello you! I'm always chuffed to see your name pop up 🫶😊!
Oh boy! Thank you for this ask — it's a big question but also I do have thoughts XD Sorry it's taken me a few days to get my ducks in a row!
I want to start, though, by emphasising that my thoughts and preferences here are exclusive to Spy x Family as a canon enterprise; they don't pertain to fanworks or other fan theories, I'm not out to yuck anyone's yum ✌️ ditto for even my own writing! You're right that I don't really have an interest in exploring that dynamic but I reserve the right to change my mind ;)!
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Right, so. There's lots of things I love about SxF, but one of the things that interested me early and keeps me engaged is that it operates under an interesting and complex morality. Spy work and contract killing are obviously an ethical minefield, and in the real world, generally to the bad. Within the world of SxF, Endo takes pains to write Twilight and Yor both firmly on the morally right side, even if Twilight’s tactics or Yor’s actions in a vacuum are frequently questionable. With Twilight especially it seems Twilight is currently (resisting) working through the impact and ethical implication of his actions on Anya. When it comes to Yor, I expect that’s where we’ll see him wrestle with similar questions through a romance lens. I think it was quite deliberate and important that Twilight specifically articulated that he’d been wondering if Yor had previous romantic relationships, and that it was now confirmed she hadn’t. As far as I can remember, it’s the only time he’s had that sort of reflection on Yor's life before the Forgers; I mention it because it mirrors times he’s reflected explicitly on Anya’s history and trauma and her needs as a child, with implication that his actions and motivations for adopting her could/probably will hurt her. I hazard that his observation about Yor will be similarly indicative of an arc down the line.
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When it comes to canon, if the Yor x Twilight romance were to firm up while Yor still believes Twilight is Loid, I admit there’s a high chance I’d nope out. I want to emphasize firm up though… I tend to think Yor already has feelings for Loid (Twilight?) whether she’s fully aware of them or would necessarily articulate them as romantic (and I think this is being really interestingly conveyed and explored through her current feelings about kissing, though I may differ with some on how I think that may shake out). I also think there’s a… less high but not impossible chance that Twilight is aware he has or is developing feelings for Yor. I’ve argued before that he knows he has formed/is forming an attachment to her and that he knows he trusts her. I don’t think it’s too far from there to romantic feelings for Twilight: after all, attachment and trust (intimacy) are not things he's had in a long, long time. And given his current pseudo-short temper and general malaise comes out most with Anya, with Yor he’s been notably softer and more receptive. In my view, this is partially because so far he hasn't really done much that would really hurt Yor and nor has she done anything that would really hurt Twilight. So far, Twilight and Yor are on a fairly even footing.
This is a very long way of saying that I trend toward thinking we’ve got at least a few toes into the romance already.
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The reasons I’d be a squicked by the firming up of the romance, pre-reveal, are related to its being morally questionable as you pointed out (I'll talk a bit more about that in a moment.) But it's also because I think it would undermine character arcs and dominant themes.
Twilight’s arc involves finding and forging a new pack, a new family. Somewhere safe and loving that he’s been denied essentially for his whole life (I don’t dispute that his mother loved him deeply and did her best to protect him: living with an abuser and then with her under war was never going to actually be or feel safe). A big part of this safety and love for Twilight is about being accepted, warts and all. Twilight started lying because he wasn’t accepted by his father as he was. There’s a fair bit to work through by way of accepting Twilight’s warts already — I think Yor will be fairly understanding as things currently stand, and that’s part of why they’re a good match. Their moral compasses, their sacrifices, how they see the world and how they want to try and make it better, align and/or resonate in foundational ways. However, given their current standing, pursuing deeper intimacy of a romantic/sexual relationship with Yor before reveals, I think would take it past the line. And particularly when considering Yor’s character arc.
Yor’s arc is also around finding love and security, but centred less around acceptance (although that obviously also explicitly features!) and more around self-worth and understanding her value. If the romance were to firm up pre-reveal, the false pretences are… I mean, to me, they lob a Molotov cocktail into that theme of self-worth and being valued, as she really would just be being used: the intimacy could never be real because Twilight is not Loid Forger. To expand a bit on an earlier point, perhaps ironically, Yor’s relationship with Loid is mostly on the up-and-up: they both know any marital connection they demonstrate is fake. They may be (are) friends, and also they’re under no illusions that it’s something of a tenuous friendship (at least for now). They co-parent Anya but are clear that this co-parenting comes with clear lines around and between their relationship otherwise. I want to tread mindfully here, because I also really like and appreciate aroace interpretations of Yor and Twilight and their relationship: I think this discussion around firming up their romance actually also holds true in the case of attempting to substantially deepen their platonic bond, pre-reveal. In the same ways, Twilight needing acceptance and Yor learning self-worth would be severely undermined by a pre-reveal apparent and false deepening of their commitment to one another.
On the point of it being morally questionable generally, yeah it is. I mean, look, it's fiction and they aren't real people who can be hurt by those actions. So in principle, Endo can write what story he wants, I wouldn't think it reflected poorly on him or anything like that. I just don't really want to read a story that goes to that place; it’s a squick. I'm sure this has been discussed before in fandom, but my read on the moral dubiety centres around the idea that it isn’t possible to actively choose or meaningfully consent to emotional or physical intimacy when one person is lying about who they are (and in this case, they're both lying about who they are... Although Twilight to a greater extent). This does tie back into SxF themes as well, as choice and consent are also… maybe not big themes of SxF exactly, but active choice and informed consent are things which have come up more than once (I have my thoughts as to why: for a character whose choices drive so much of the narrative, Twilight is actually also a character who’s shown to have little actual choice or control over much of his own life. Considering his motivations for a world where children don’t cry, imo valuing active choice and meaningful consent are important factors required for that world. And I also actually suspect the theme of choice will become more important the more we learn about Donovan, and his role as foil for Twilight.)
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Also, honestly for me, it would be too close to a common trope in a lot of popular western fiction/media that I don’t like: a woman being taken advantage of by a man in some way, shape or form, and then through the magic of her non-specific womanness, forgiving him his gross transgressions under the thinnest of pretences. Particularly as Endo has already taken pains to sidestep that as a foundation of their arrangement. To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised that were Endo to take the pre-reveal romance path, it would be a deeper interpretation of that trope, but as with other sexist tropes utilised in pop fiction/media, I have to ask why the choice couldn’t have been for a more interesting path, rather than retreading that one. And particularly given everything he's established for Twilight and Yor: it goes against much of what Twilight stands for — and indeed goes against much of what he meaningfully brings in his current relationship with Yor, that of encouraging her, supporting her, and shoring up her thoughts, opinions and self-image, particularly when she voices upset or doubt about them. It also goes against much of what Yor stands for: while the power imbalance would lie firmly with Twilight, it remains true that Yor’s lies in an apparently deepening intimacy would also undermine the safety and security she ostensibly creates for Twilight. She also so obviously hates lying, the prospect of her keeping her secret into what she believed was a real relationship would wreck her. Doubly so, given the weight Yor puts on Loid's acknowledgement of who she is and what she believes: something she hangs her self-worth on, a recognition of her value. And I'd argue here that it would actually, conversely, be impossible for Loid Forger to acknowledge or accept Yor's truth: that's only something Twilight can do.
And so I guess there’s also just the bare fact following from the above that I think a pre-reveal firming up of their relationship is the less interesting choice for what is a major franchise that has otherwise done innovative things. Another reason I love SxF is that it subverts tropes and complicates cliches. One of which includes communication: for a pair who have crossed lines as a foundation of their relationship, Yor and Twilight actually do a lot of communicating. That’s a subversion of many heterosexual romantic tropes and norms, at least in a Western context, and, to put it sort of flippantly, it would bum me out if it failed at the final hurdle.
I just want to emphasise one more time, my opinions and preferences here are strictly related to Spy x Family in an official canon capacity, and nothing to do with fanworks or fan theories or what fans want to explore in whatever fashion. Part of my feelings here are also honestly because of the tone and pacing of SxF. I think it entirely possible to do interesting things with those tropes and actually think Endo is the type of writer I would trust to do so. But the way SxF is written by way of tone, pacing, narrative priorities and audience demand, I don't think even Endo would be able to do them within SxF in ways that wouldn't squick me out and make me lose love for Twilight, specifically, pretty entirely. I'd rather he just didn't 😂
Tl;dr: in canon exclusively I’m not into a firming up of their romantic relationship pre-reveal! Their situation is complicated enough as it is; give these goobers the love they want and can share with one another, kindly and gently, when the world has been neither kind nor gentle with them. In my view, it’s already primed in their character and thematic arcs 🫶
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purplecatghostposts · 3 months ago
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Miraculous Ladybug characters and what character in Mario Kart 8 I think they choose as well as if they’re good at the game, based on the vibes I get from them!
Marinette: Used to play Peach but now is purely loyal to Toadette and Toadette ONLY! Canonically great at video games, so Mario Kart is naturally included.
Adrien: CAT PEACH. If anyone else chooses Cat Peach, he immediately gives them a DEVASTATED look and they swap immediately. Very good at the game, he has three stars on every cup!
Alya: Daisy. She will FIGHT anyone else trying to pick Daisy. Nobody is taking Daisy from her. She’s pretty decent at the game but is mostly just here to have fun and maybe kick some ass.
Nino: Strikes me as either a Yoshi guy or Shy Guy guy, though he’s chill if other people wanna pick them. Also decent but has a grudge against certain NPC opponents.
Chloé: Pink. Gold. Peach. Threatens to sue if anyone else takes her. She’s actually pretty good at the game and tends to be VERY agro. No mercy, she needs to WIN.
Kagami: Has swapped between a lot of different people but settled on Link. Incredibly intense in-game. She’s willing to battle to the death.
Félix: Isabelle from Animal Crossing. Do not let it fool you. He wants to WIN and he will red shell you at the worst time to do it.
Luka: Claims he’ll ‘Choose anybody’ but he’ll go for Rosalina if given the choice. He’s just trying to have fun and is 90% of the reason why controllers are not thrown at the TV. Juleka claims he’s “Going easy” on everyone so less feelings will be hurt. (She’s right, he loses on purpose a lot.)
Juleka: Dry Bones or Dry Bowser, she thinks they’re both cool. Doesn’t usually get top 5 if everyone is playing but consistently gets 6-7th! Hitting people with red and blue shells is kinda cathartic for her.
Rose: Sometimes picks one of the baby versions of the characters, but other times chooses one of Bowser’s kids, like Wendy or Roy. The former is for when she’s playing to have fun, the latter is for when she’s gunning for top 3.
Zoé: Pretended to be bad at the game until she realized she didn’t need to spare anyone’s feelings. Very good at the game, knows a lot of the techniques to give herself mini boosts. She LOVES Boswer Jr., especially after becoming Kitty Noire.
Sabrina: Genuinely one of the best players… When she’s not playing with Chloé. Otherwise she’s always letting her win, aiding her the best she can, and pretty much always gets whatever rank is directly behind hers. Claims her favorite character is Baby Peach (it’s actually King Boo).
Kim: DONKEY KONG. Also occasionally Wario. He’s actually kinda terrible at the game but he tends to spams items and makes that everyone else’s problem.
Max: Chooses one of the Inkling Kids (he strikes me as someone who also probably loves Splatoon). He’s good at the game but with how many other people are also good at the game, sometimes he gets overshined. He’s better at fighting games.
Alix: Waluigi 100%. She thinks he’s hilarious and while she doesn’t actually care, she WILL bring up ‘Waluigi should’ve been in Smash Ultimate’ At some point, because she thinks it’s funny. Not great at the game, is here purely to spam items and fuck over as many people as possible.
Myléne: Terrible at the game but plays to have fun! Likes to play Boswer because Ivan has cosplayed as him before.
Ivan: Also terrible at the game but likes losing alongside Myléne. Likes to play as Luigi, though occasionally chooses Dry Boswer if no one else has.
Nathaniel: Rarely plays but will choose Rosalina or Lemmy if he does. Likes to play against other casual people but usually dips if too many competitive people are playing at once.
Marc: Surprisingly really good though isn’t always good about asking if he can have a turn or not. Loves to pick the animal crossing villagers if they haven’t been chosen.
Lila: Claims she’s won a championship before. Is actually terrible at the game with the worst luck and very rarely plays. The first time she was gonna play with the class, she selected Cat Peach. Everyone stared at her as Adrien gave her the most devastated look. She panicked and faked an injury to stop playing altogether.
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onyanjune · 9 months ago
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Wdym it’s valentines already? (thanks ig artists for the reminder 💀)
Anywhoo I impulsively bought a super cute camcorder but I broke a piece off lmao. This was born out of my regret.
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Thinking of men who fund your shopping habits and are terrifyingly good enablers.
The ones who gush about the product and encourage you to buy it. Just succumb to your desires already. They don’t really care about your financial worries since they’ve already had their card ready from the beginning. How dare you even entertain the thought of paying for anything.
gojo satoru ┊͙ kalim al-asim ┊͙ mikage reo ┊͙ tartaglia ajax childe ┊͙ zhongli if he was rich ┊͙ jing yuan
The ones who scoff but hand you their card anyway. They know you’re tearing yourself up internally, so just buy it already. Plus the pure joy when you get their approval is just too cute. They’re obsessed with how much you value their opinion and depend on them. They may seem cold and judgemental, but they’ll be sure to comfort you in their own way if you start regretting your decision and feel like it was a waste of money.
leona kingscholar ┊͙ vil schoenheit ┊͙ itoshi sae ┊͙ itoshi rin ┊͙ michael kaiser (he is my fav and i fear that i will include him in everything) ┊͙ morax (not zhongli since he’s broke) ┊͙ blade ┊͙ port mafia!dazai ┊͙ akutagawa
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To those who have made it this far, I added some of these characters purely based on the vibes like I haven’t actively been keeping up with BSD in a while and I haven’t read Beast and stuff so… yea. Feel free to share your opinions in reblogs and stuff (〃ω〃)
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yaralulu · 9 days ago
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this is me presenting my “tamcien have the nastiest arguments known to man” headcanon. i’m talking like the shit they say to one another literally should never be said out loud. my evidence to this is: we saw how bitchy tamlin can get when he’s upset (high lords meeting) and the outright diabolical shit lucien used to say to feyre in book 1 when he hated her. trust and believe that their arguments could create new hells.
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ckarlova · 1 year ago
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I made a part 2.
And because this has been stewing in my mind for months I will be making more parts! Brace for my interpretations of evo/watcher lore and the life series.
Anyways I’ll call this series In The Depth. So there’ll be a tag for everyone to find the different parts!
@reachforthestars-101 it’s here bestie
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stinkrascal · 22 days ago
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it’s so hard being a datv lover on the internet right now, i can’t make any comments about how much im enjoying the game without some weirdo on reddit being like “yeah but dont you find the dialogue so cringe? doesnt it feel so disney+ to you?” and when i ask what they mean without fail they’re like “well have you seen taash talk about their gender” 😐
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rivetgoth · 7 months ago
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No neutrality allowed. If you love both, you still have to pick. If you hate both, you still have to pick.
Brought about by a conversation where I admitted I’m not actually a big fan of either of these movies (the horror!) but which one I’d pick as a better movie if I HAD to. Not sharing my answer to limit any bias. Whether you love them or hate them, I’m just curious where others stand. 👀❓
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frnkir · 8 months ago
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i have SO many thoughts and questions about spike so i’m going to dump them here:
so we all know how chase doesn’t remember anything that happens while spike is in control, right? well do y’all ever think about how spike remembers what happens when chase is in control? he seems to be completely aware of where he is or what is currently happening whenever he activates, like at the talent show in spike’s got talent. when spike activated after chase got embarrassed, spike knew what chase’s original magic act was (moving a chair with his molecular kinesis) and continued the act by “moving” (breaking) the chair with his head instead.
another example: in the commando app episode, when perry is reprimanding chase, she tells him a story about when she wiped out during a roller derby game and was forced to quit the team. later, when spike activates, spike insults her by saying she probably just quit out of shame (or something like that lol), which means he remembered earlier parts of their conversation (that he wasn’t active for).
this is so interesting to me because it makes me wonder if spike is still conscious while he’s not active (unlike chase). like is he always watching and listening while chase goes about his day-to-day? is he just laying low somewhere in chase’s mind, waiting for the chance to activate? or does he come out unwillingly from the intensity of whatever emotion chase is feeling? (more under the cut)
he’s clearly shown to be his own person with his own thoughts, beliefs, and abilities separate from chase, so does he just…decide to activate when chase is upset? is spike just trying to help or even protect chase (in his own violent way) whenever he activates? or does he activate because he feels personally threatened when people harass or make fun of chase?
conversely, what exactly causes spike to deactivate? i know he deactivates when chase’s “aggression level” is lowered, but what causes the aggression level to go down in the first place? does it gradually decrease over time? or can certain things calm him down? (like when leo gave him some tea in spike’s got talent)? but it seems like even douglas doesn’t even know how to get spike to deactivate so??? is there just no rhyme or reason to how spike activates or deactivates?
i am definitely overthinking it but this has haunted me since i first watched the show as a kid 😭
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the-irrelevant-trumpeter · 8 months ago
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mischief fandom. for science.
answer with whatever is closest to your feelings. also this is just for a bit of fun and no feelings should be hurt because of this poll. cheers 👍
(also if y’all want to include your takes in the tags, pls go ahead)
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barrys-chico-rico · 1 month ago
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ok! so here’s what going to happen in S4 part 2 (fanfic writers get ready) rafe is going to find out that Sofia betrayed him and he’s going to spiral and run into the arms of the other guy who once betrayed him —>BARRY!!
The writers, Nick, &Drew will give us some crazy homoerotic sexually charged scenes between the two because seriously they can shove a girl under Rafe’s arm or have some old lady flirt with him and he’d still be gay af with his drug dealer. The creators of the show have accidentally made them gay and there’s nothing to do about it now. Anyone with media literacy will see how this alludes to Barry being Rafe’s REBOUND.
Anyway if this actually happens I’m ready for the angsty getting back together fics
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ninyard · 5 months ago
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royaltea000 · 5 months ago
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we know that alfred is insane over gil, but is gil insane over anyone? it doesnt have to be the degree of insane alfred is
Gil is insane overall so it’s very hard to spot a difference when he’s being more so but I like to think, as all unhealthy sibling relationships go in this series - that he’s obsessed with Ludwig. Not to the extent that Ludwig is fixated on him but he’s very much an overbearing helicopter parent in his own trying to make it seem like I don’t give a shit way. He’s calmed down sooo much in modern times but I Know that boy was going through like no less than 20 lessons a day when he was born
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natsuki208 · 10 months ago
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This question for @marcobodtlives is a lot more lighthearted, I promise. 😊
If Jean brought his boyfriend (or husband) Marco back to Trost to meet his parents after the war ended, how would they react? Would they accept Marco as a part of their family?
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juvian · 6 months ago
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Base on look only ! Like I like Mr.mime even if he’s uncomfortable to look at cnbdhdnd
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