#but i don't ship wincest

[brsb4hls]

Ok, but if you wanna circle that Siken quote around, maybe post the whole thing?

The second part is the important one.

Also, for those who still can't seperate fiction from reality and are obvi already pestering him, because he dared to name that ship:

[jamevaa]

A thing my mom's told us, and I believe applies to Dean, is that my parents could never really, fully sleep until we were back home, when we were old enough to go out.

And I really think it'd be the same for Dean about Sam, but even worse, because for practically all his life they have slept in the same room and their lives are so much more dangerous.

Between Stanford and the bunker Dean would only be able to sleep very lightly, on that edge of awareness where you kinda know you're sleeping, until Sam came back to the motel and then he'd become aware just enough to process Sam-back-and-safe and promptly fall back into a proper deep sleep. And he'd never really realize that happens or think much about it, because it's just part of the standard care-for-Sammy package.

[keith-party]

forever obsessed with that performative little song and dance antis do where one of them interacts with content they genuinely enjoy from a "proship" account and then when their weirdly invasive followers alert them of the misstep they have to be all like OMG EW GROSS as if they actually care, lest they be suspected of the unforgivable crime of liking Problematic Art. It's like clockwork.

[flourishing-toxicity]

Made the mistake of trying to go through the sam winchester tag again- there is so much d*stiel (censoring bc I don't want this post to end up on their tag) if you're lucky sam will be in the back just standing there or god forbid he's their 1# shipper for some fucking reason and that's it for like every ten posts.

Anyways can we all tag properly please and thank you.

[dragonlands]

I watched 7 seasons of supernatural in 2015 bc I had seen Destiel gifs on tumblr and the show made no sense to me at all. I finally gave in now to watch it for the Wincest and oh. Now I get it.

[jinkieswouldyoulookatthis]

based on this post by @samspartyhat

[friendlyneighbourhoodfreak]

Sam, Dean, Cass and Jack should have made out at least a dozen time in the course of seasons 13-15.

[angel-fruitcake]

when one of my mutuals posts about a ship i don't love but i still support them and their opinions

[andiv3r]

Supernatural got brought up in a discord server I'm in due to my Dean Winchester pfp and then ships in Supernatural got brought up in that same server and I was just sitting there like

DON'T SAY SHIT ABOUT WINCEST. DONT FUCKING SAY SHIT ABOUT WINCEST. YOU DONT EVEN REALLY SHIP WINCEST. PLEASE. PLEEASE MAN. PLEASE. DON'T RUIN THIS, THIS IS A MINECRAFT YOUTUBER FAN SERVER.

[sak-supernatural]

Ok don’t come at me for this, but incest in fiction (specifically fanfiction) can be a great jumping off point for angst. It’s the forbidden love, the taboo relationship, the dirty secret. And ao3 is for sure proof that people are drawn to angsty relationships. The site was founded on Winchester for gods sake. I am not saying that IRL incestious relationships are in any way ok or acceptable, but why is it so awful to portray in FICTION? Why is it somehow considered worse than fiction about murder? And horror novels? And gore?

All it takes is a brief look at human history to see that we (as a species) were not naturally opposed or disgusted by incest. Humans had to learn that incest was bad by having fucked up children with their siblings. The Royal Family gets real fucked up when you go far enough back and dig into it, obsessions with keeping the bloodline pure and that shit. No it’s not good or ok IRL, but there is no need to call out or crucify writers who choose to explore the topic in FICTION!!!

[beetlescurrenthyperfixation]

So I don't personally ship wincest but like I kinda get it because wth

[cutie-patootie-monster]

I have no words

[bloopf1sh]

i was a respectful internet user today! when i saw something i didn't agree with, i simply--and get this--i closed the tab!

i didn't get mad, i wasn't disrespectful, i just closed the tab!

[psychicsamlover]

that feeling when I can't even be angry with a problematic ship I don't like cause I literally ship brothers

[fandom-hoarder]

Help this is so funny. These are right on top of each other on the same blog?? 😅😅😅😅

Girl (gn), that's wincest by proxy lololol

[clowndensation]

wait explain to me the destiel hatred i’m curious what abt it angers u that doesn’t apply to the other two ships

great question! the answer would unfortunately require 3 hours and a powerpoint presentation, so i will try to do a brief summary:

a ship sucking only ever has about 25% to do with the ship itself. destiel is bad in the sense that i think dean winchester is an annoying character that gets treated with kiddie gloves by the narrative, which makes him irritating to see on screen, because i personally dislike it when "men are angry and abusive because they just love too strongly, and don't know how to express it :(" is played straight as a character's primary internal conflict. especially over 15 seasons. it's boring, he's boring, and 35 year old men shouldn't be going to colleges trying to figure out which freshman girls are legal or not. hate him.

however the real sin of destiel, beyond the fact that dean winchester and i have beef that will only ever resolve when i get to reincarnate as the rusty nail that kills him, is that the fans are so so so fucking annoying. like yes the narrative frames dean as a golden boy who can either do no wrong, or "well, i guess he did wrong there, but what about how tortured he is :(" but good god. at least the show isn't trying to convince me that destiel is some groundbreaking lifechanging love story, complete with "omg this moment" montages where they romanticize scenes that feature dean either insulting, threatening, or humiliating cas. like this entire show (post season 5) is dean chronically either infantillizing and attempting to keep cas under his control, or holding him up as the only person he can rely on, thus giving cas expectations that are impossible to fulfill.

and don't get me wrong! people can like a shitty person and a fucked up ship. that's basically everything i enjoy on here. but at least like. acknowledge it. aldfkjalka. and if you're gonna like a shitty person and a fucked up ship, at least write about it in an interesting way. 90% of fic and posts written about destiel aren't even about destiel as presented in canon, they're about two generic men with generic personalities who suffer from the world's most generic tropey problems. cookie cutter ass basic relationship. the high school au of ships. boring.