#but i also want to see the stage production
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Actually I think one of the reasons why this game is so awful to get through is how it treats abuse, abusers, and abuse victims.
Under cut due to length of rambling:
First of all, Morrigan. Abused as a child by her mother, Flemeth aka Mythal, learned about the world and how to interact with it in a skewed way. Was treated in a way that no child should be by anyone let alone their parent.
Fast forward to Inquisition, particularly a worldstate in which Kieran is alive. The scene in the fade where Morrigan confronts Flemythal is one of the most important and special scenes in all of dragon age to me.
Growing up through abuse as a child you never think "I don't deserve this", you mainly think things like "Why is this happening to me?" and "Bad things happen to me." You know that these things are bad and make you feel bad, but when your baseline for how you should experience the world is abusive, you don't have the point of reference to think otherwise. And then you grow up. You look back on the abuse through the eyes of the child who experienced it but also through the detached, adult view that you currently have and have to reconcile the two. It's not easier nor pleasant. Getting to the age your abuser was/getting into the position of power your abuser had over you is difficult. Being at that stage and picturing yourself doing what was done to you to someone else is fucking sickening, and then you start to realize "I wasn't the problem, it WASN'T my fault, YOU are the one that's fucked up." But a lot of people can't and therefore the cycle of abuse continues.
But Morrigan does. She straight up tells her abuser "I will not be the mother you were to me." To have a character who survived childhood abuse be able to reach a point in their life where they can take back their personhood from their abuser is pretty damn important, actually. To this day I get weepy just thinking about it.
And then fucking veilguard happened.
Not only does it not matter if Kieran is alive or if Morrigan drank from the well (something that would BIND HER SPIRIT TO HER ABUSER), but Morrigan straight up let Mythal hitch a ride in her. The very thing that Morrigan tried to prevent ever since the first goddamn game? And we're all just supposed to accept and be ok with this?
The only way I can see this not being a complete character assassination of Morrigan is if Mythal just straight up possessed her unwillingly/killed her. Have Mythal use Morrigan as a information receptacle for new players, but also use old players' already-implemented relationship with her as a way to manipulate them. Either way, shit sucks.
Then there's the Crows. You know, the guild who takes children from brothels, orphanages, the streets and puts them through Hunger Games levels of training in which they either die or survive to become a slave assassin for the rest of their life. Not in veilguard. We're all just one big happy family. We rule Antiva, yippee!
Finally, there's Solas. One could argue his entire existence is the product of abuse, and everything that has happened in Thedas is because of it. I think framing his regrets as physical manifestations that want to kill him is a really interesting narrative choice. Unlocking the regret murals was one of the very few parts of this game that invoked a strong emotional response from me, not just because I'm an unapologetic Solas Enjoyer but because the implications are heartbreaking.
And then the game has you sit through the most fucking unbearable CBT group therapy session to talk about them with some of the most annoying damn people in Thedas who treat the literal apocalyptic levels of abuse Solas went through for millennia as something like a joke? And we the player are not given the option to challenge this? This game makes the point to force the player to agree with the flippant attitudes brought up from this.
Then brings up the final scene with Solas. Do I think the meeting with Mythal and Solas was handled well? Yes and no, but that's for another time. Solas is so far in the trenches of the trauma of abuse that he will not stop until his abuser pretty much tells him "I'm done abusing you." I think this was good and bad, again another time.
The way Solas interacts with his abuser is the direct flipside of how Morrigan does. You see more than one way someone can heal/not heal from it.
Morrigan, someone with arguable little power in the world, stands up against her abuser unflinchingly.
Solas, described through history as a GOD, someone with unfathomable amounts of knowledge and power, cowers and offers his abuser a literal weapon to kill him with, unprompted.
If this was a good game, it would be about regret but also about survivor's guilt, something that those who survived abuse have to deal with for the rest of their lives. But it's not, because it's a a bad game.
#jfc i'll get off my soapbox now#i have thoughts feelings and opinions obv#the more i think about it the more this game genuinely distresses me and not in a good way#da4#solas#dragon age#veilguard#morrigan#mythal#datv critical
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does anyone know where i can get broadway newsies proshot bcs i cant find it free anywhere PLEASE send help xxxx thanks
#i just need to see it#PLEASE#92sies is all well and good#and it's really good#and i love it#but i also want to see the stage production#newsies#leo talks!
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what is the theory that ivan manipulated the event where till and mizi met the wagyein?
It's not a theory, actually! It's confirmed that Ivan orchestrated the whole event. The true reason as to why however is still unknown. The information provides more context to this scene, though:
During the earlier times of ALNST the most rational explanation for this scene was that Till ran after a flower crown (presumably Mizi's) and Ivan followed him in out of curiosity. Now we know that Ivan was conveniently just standing there because he was waiting.
Side note, I find it heartbreaking (and maybe a little funny, sorry) that Till most likely didn't notice Ivan in this scene. That's just like him, isn't it. Always too busy running after Mizi while Ivan trails behind, an ever-present shadow.
I'm not sure how Ivan manipulated the circumstances for both of them to end up there, but it is confirmed that everything was intentional. What strikes me most is how they describe this particular scene:
I can't copy down what they said word-for-word (Patreon info), but they described Ivan watching "creepily" as Till and Mizi are faced with danger. We know that Ivan was familiar with the Cerberus wagyein beforehand, enough to touch its teeth and even to rest himself inside its maw. To Ivan, the wagyein is not dangerous, but to Till and Mizi, it could be. Ivan prepared the wagyein, led them there, and watched "creepily" from afar as Till fell on his knees, seemingly injured.
The closest I can get to making sense of Ivan's "scheme" is that he wanted to see how other children would react in a dangerous situation. Ivan's always been an observer, after all, and he's learned to survive by copying the more "normal" behaviors of his peers. This situation occured when Ivan was still young and had not yet developed his more charming mask, so perhaps he staged this encounter to study a situational response, to learn and mimic the emotion of fear. And what better subjects for the experiment than two of the most expressive and reactive humans of their batch? It helps that he was already fixated on Till beforehand, too. I think Ivan became irreversibly obssessed after this incident, especially since it's framed as a turning point in Ivan's life, comparing Till to the stars.
This is just my attempt at an interpretation, though. It could very well be for another reason. He most likely chose Till and Mizi specifically for personal reasons, not just for reaction. I'm still not sure on the purpose behind the whole thing.
The team wanted to capture Ivan's "dark emotions" through the shot of his stalking, which could relate to his more sinister intentions. His gaze can be read in a few different ways, though. Curiosity, interest, fear, etc. Maybe that's why they decided to redraw the shot in ROUND 6.
I think this better sells the feeling they were trying to convey.
#ivan u fucked up little guy.#also okay i just wanna clear this up#i know i make a lot of posts about ivans darker side and his more problematic traits#but this isn't me trying to villainize him or reduce him down to “toxic yaoi”#I HOPE YOU GUYS KNOW ALL MY TOXIC YAOI POSTS ARE LIGHTHEARTED.#i just want to clarify that ivan was always intended to be a darker and complicated character. even since his debut in round 3#the way i refer to ivan (“twisted” “creepy” “obssessive” etc) are literally the direct words used by q and v themselves to describe him#but despite that id like to emphasize that i don't see ivan as a villain or a completely bad person. hes complicated#there is no normalcy in this world they are living in. none of the characters know what being truly normal is#this isn't me condoning his actions#but it has to be acknowledged that alnst is fucked up in nature. we can't expect perfect relationships from people who are born to die#plus ivan has a lot more layers past the “dark” parts. he's constantly battling himself and his desires#especially at the end of round 6 where he performs a myriad of conflicting actions (kiss strangle peck smile)#thanks to the r6 production notes we now know that ivan was going through a rapid internal conflict#“sure and unsure at the same time”#there is sooo much to ivan. his low self-esteem. his desire and possessiveness despite knowing till will never love him#his VEHEMENT insistence that till will never love him vs his desperate persistence in trying anyway#uh i need to shut up i think#anyways sorry. just wanted to clarify my thoughts on him in case people think im. yk.#in short. hes a fucked up little freak and he fascinates me. this poor tragic child. i love him.#SORRY I GOT CARRIED AWAY#alnst#alien stage#alien stage ivan#alnst ivan#asks
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david tennant as hedwig fancast: yay or nay?
Ohh, boy. Well, when I first read this, my immediate thought was "Hell yay, but he'd have to fight Michael for it." Haha.
I love that we have this video of Michael just a few years ago talking about desperately wanting to play Hedwig, and you're asking about the possibility of David as Hedwig. It's become almost a long-running joke about how Michael and David have always been up for the same parts/thought of as being the same "type" of actor, so it seems entirely fitting that I could easily see either one of them as Hedwig...but they would give very different interpretations/versions of the character.
So I could see this being something very much like what Michael and David have talked about before, about having a "retirement plan" where they are doing a theatrical touring production of Good Omens and swapping roles every night. Maybe one of them plays Hedwig and one plays Yitzhak one night, and then swapped the next? Or within the same show, Michael/David plays Hedwig for half the show and Yitzhak for the other half? The possibilities really are quite numerous...
I did have the opportunity to see John Cameron Mitchell as Hedwig on Broadway years ago and he was absolutely transcendent in the role, to where it's almost impossible for me to picture anyone else. But in thinking of your question along with the physical demands of the role (and knowing how much David lived up to the task of playing Macbeth), I think David could definitely handle the physicality of Hedwig. I'd also love to hear him sing "Sugar Daddy" (for oh so many delicious reasons...) and I think he would kill it on "The Origin of Love." That's not even getting into how gorgeous David would look in the costumes, of course. Even the drag outfit he wore in Much Ado has some shades of Hedwig to it, in fact (mainly the denim skirt, stockings, and boots)...
So yes, I would absolutely have to vote in the affirmative for a David Tennant fancast of Hedwig, with or without Michael Sheen. Please, universe, let's make it happen...
#chipadip#reply post#david tennant#soft scottish hipster gigolo#michael sheen#welsh seduction machine#hedwig and the angry inch#can't have one without the other#like if we could just have Michael and David doing various theatrical productions together for the rest of ever#it's also interesting to me because David is the first person i've ever heard Michael say he wants to grow old with#and i've wondered if he never really thought about growing old with someone before David#that would be amazing#watching Michael in Nye i can say he is a force of nature on stage#so to see him and David feeding off each other live would be incredible#but yes to David as Hedwig#please universe make this happen#thoughts#discourse
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Which version of this do you prefer?
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#okay so normally I would not do a poll thats just different theatrical revivals#which I mostly have not been counting as separate versions for these#(and also because its often about whether theres any access to a specific revival)#HOWEVER. I make an exception with Chess because famously different productions can be radically different#and rewrite the book/show in *huge* ways#I mostly went with assembling the versions wikipedia lists the differences of because its easy to see that they are super different#but with all the many differences in versions#I'm sure there are more floating around#also I know the 2008 concert version is basically just using the london version#but for this poll in particular its a notable enough specific version that I wanted to keep it on#especially because I believe its the one used as the current “official” version#you can take picking the london version over it as signaling a preference for the original london cast/staging#also I have no idea if that image is from the official australian version but its the best one I could find lol#chess the musical#chess the musical london#chess 2008 concert#chess the musical 2008#chess the musical broadway#chess the musical australia#chess pa svenska#benny andersson#bjorn ulvaeus#tim rice#musicals#musical theater#theater#chess concept album#chess the musical concept#chess#chess musical
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seeing hadestown live would solve all my problems i think
#yes i've already seen it once but that was in a WEIRD MODERN THEATRE#in the USA#also i just want to hear wait for me reprise live#and see the spinny stage#and maybe the lifting stage bit too bc if its not a touring production it would probably have it#fuck i love the hadestown set#i would pay so much money to be able to look at it from the stage#honestly i'd pay a lot of money to see most sets on stage#and also costumes#i would love to look at the costumes for basically every single thing i've seen#especially moulin rouge#the costumes were so intricate#i wanna talk to the moulin rouge design team bc it was so fucking good#the lighting and sets were actually amazing like i love them so much
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KR!!!!!!!!!!!!! NELKE!!!!!!!!!!! WHOMST TF EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LET ME IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET ME IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#this is vee speaking#hypstage might be fighting a fr uphill battle lol#i’ve seen a few more opinions now that day two has rolled around and i personally am seeing a divide between hypstage stans and casuals#like the stans while feeling the difference in casts keenly lol see the point in revisiting the get together stories#like it def helps break the new cast in and can potentially set stage for new original stories#but on the other hand i’m seeing the opinion that bc new encounter did the og stories and made them feel more cohesive#we actually might get a more canon complaint stage#one opinion of that sentiment i read was from a mtc stan and she HATED fp vs mtc stage for example#so while she enjoyed the stage some of her gripes about the stage was its originality#and how it felt a lot of people watched the stage less for hypmic but more for the actors and the different universe#which makes me a bit conflicted bc i also hated some aspects of the stage’s different takes but for the most part loved them lmao#we never got to see adaptations of the og stories so it’s cool that we are now but a lot of hypstage’s power came from that originality#i don’t want to see that go lol hypstage overall has better writing than canon 😭😭😭😭😭#maybe we can get a mix of arb and the stage’s propensity for drama as a production lmao#*coughs* but anyway#LET ME INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN#I HEARD NAKANISHI SAN IS REALLY GETTING INTO IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! HES ALREADY FINDING THAT STRIDE DESPITE NOT HAVING A BIG PART#I HEARD JYUSHI AND HITOYAS PARTS WERE FUN LMAO LET ME INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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does anyone have insect/arthropod documentary recommendations that DON’T have an overly goofy/simplified tone?
#I'm watching a real bug's life and it's cute but it's clearly aimed at children. and a little disappointed that it still says ''gross!''#the footage is enough to want to watch it and ngl love hearing awkwafina#but I want something that takes bugs and their importance with the same seriousness of other high-production animal documentaries#this goes for other small animal wildlife documentaries too like. it isn't just children who want to see light on low-profile species#bugblr#also a real bug's life has a lot of clearly staged shots which is also a bit disappointing
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just watched the brazilian production of matilda the musical and to the surprise of no one i cried. to the surprise of some, 4 times.
#it was soooo good#i love matilda so much#in all its forms#but especially the musical#i went to london when i was 13 and my parents asked me if there was anything i wanted to do and they’d see if they could fit it#and i asked to see matilda the musical in the west end#it was too expensive for the whole family to go to but my mom took me#it was amazing i’ll never forget seeing when i grow up live and just bursting into tears#and now it’s 8 years later and i took my mom (and my aunt) to watch the brazilian production and it was just as great#i cried a few minutes into miracle then in school song for some reason? and then when i grow up of course and finally at the encore#also the set design was insane#the stage was like a circle with big letters spelling matilda…#but when they brought a certain letter upfront and showed its back it made up a different setting like matilda’s room or miss honey’s house#it was so freaking cool like please search pictures#also unrelated but mrs wormwood did a silent bend and snap at some point in the beginning of the show and i laughed so hard#no one else did but it’s okay myra i saw it and i appreciate it#(myra ruiz played mrs wormwood and fabi bang ms honey)#(if these names seem familiar to you it’s cause they’re the incredibly iconic brazilian elphaba and glinda respectively)#my post#matilda#matilda the musical
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breaking news: local woman goes to the movie theater and somehow DOESN'T see the mario movie again for the millionth time? who IS she??????
#this APPEARS to be a non-mario related post but stick with me i'll bring it back around in the tags#instead i saw the japanese stage production of spirited away (subtitled) and it was absolutely lovely :) :) :)#i LOVE spirited away (makes me cry every time) and i LOVE theatre and to see how they translated so many incredible sights#from the movie to the stage was delightful#but let me tell you...the mario brainrot runs deep right now and my treacherous thoughts started taking me places#mario spirited away AU?? is that anything?? tragically separated bros fic where luigi is in the chihiro role and mario is in the haku role?#where mario saved his brother's life many years ago but lost his name and memories in the process and was corrupted by bowser's magic#and the experience was so traumatizing that luigi forgot about the other world they found together and has been told for years#that his brother simply drowned in the sewer saving him#and then as an adult luigi finds his way back into the world and has to serve bowser and fight the mushroom kingdom to survive#but at least he's being helped by a strange half-human creature who somehow knows his name without being told. at least there's that#I GOTTA PONDER ON THIS A LITTLE MORE BUT THERE IS SOMETHING HERE. I'VE GOT SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THIS#something that hasn't come up yet on this blog but is crucial to one's understanding of me: i LOVE weird AU's#i've never met a weird AU that i couldn't make work somehow. just watch me!!!#and also if you would want to see more elaboration on this let me know lol
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post about poto italy
quite genuinely the most i've ever enjoyed watching phantom. i've been trying to figure out why and i think it basically boils down to a couple things:
- one of the things i like most about phantom is the metatheatricality, and one of the things i like most about theatre in general is suspension of disbelief. poto italy played into those things (both deliberately and inadvertently). any moments that lacked 'polish' (which there undeniably were, if you compare it to the london production) really worked for me to keep up that sense of immersion. we are in a theatre. this is a work of artifice. being able to see through the gaps in the performance and understand that this is something people are working together to make 'go', while still at the same time buying in to the world that it presents... idk. delicious chaos. if it were any other show, and if the cast hadn't all been singing their hearts out, it might not have worked. but as it was i think it being less polished than the london production actually made me enjoy it more
- on a related note, the other thing i like about phantom is how stupid it is. half the songs are overtly comedic and the other half are the world's schmalziest most over the top secretions of lloyd-webberage and the plot doesn't make any sense. so when i'm watching phantom i'm already psychologically primed to react to things with 'sure!! why not!!'. the sillier it is, the better. and boy did this production deliver on silly
- credit to alw, i think this is because the music is so genuine and compelling that it makes a strong enough tissue to hold the show together and preserve the emotional sincerity despite how objectively silly it all is. it's a rubbery sort of show. you can fit a Lot of silly into it without any risk of tearing the immersion.
- i don't even know what to say about characterisation tbh since i think it's fairly clear i don't watch this musical for the characters. i do not think that character depth is one of phantom's strong suits. nevertheless here are my takes.
christine felt like she had less agency than normal (already not a high bar) but compensated by responding to situations with genuine emotion/stress/fear and delivering a wishing you were somehow here again that made me weep.
i sort of enjoyed the unhinged all i ask of you. it makes christine and raoul more interesting to me if they're both obviously having a terrible time. i like raoul struggling with trying to be the Guy Who Fixes Everything in a situation that he's realising is actually beyond his abilities to fix.
diversity win/loss: this phantom stims. obviously one wishes they hadn't chosen to code the stalker and murderer as autistic/Ambiguously Mentally Unwell. like i think we can all agree we probably wish they had made a different choice there. that said, as someone who does rock back and forth in times of emotional stress, it did sort of work to get me to like him better. ah well.
- favourite things about this production: revolving set, deliberate arson and insurance fraud, the anastasia once upon a december thing they did during the overture, spinning piano, lesbianism, the masquerade staging
#dont get me wrong there were also things i did not enjoy about this production#but they are less fun to talk about#i think what it actually is tbh is seeing a DIFFERENT production was refreshing#if phantom was only be a good show bc of its particular staging and costuming and effects then that would be one thing#not that those arent a part of what makes it good in london etc!! ofc they are theyve got the wow factor theyre loved for a reason#but it's interesting to appreciate the show outside of that and see what still works and what doesnt#this is ludicrously long also vin i literally do not need to tell you any of this you were THERE WITH ME#we debriefed already!!!!!!#nevertheless i have complied with your instructions#gay belligerence#i dont want to put this in the tag i'm not a phantom person ive only seen in london twice. no this will not stop me from having takes
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Being critical of art is all fun and games until you are the art that is being critiqued :(
#God I was feeling so good today but duuuude I’m so scared abt the opera from purely a technical standpoint#like I’m not even stressed about fucking anything up anymore it just hit me that like. I invited people to see this and it might be bad :(#due to variables outside of my control!!!! I hate not being able to fix things#I would be less stressed if my mother wasn’t seeing it but tragically I’m proud of what /i/ am achieving so I really want her to be there!!#but I know it’s going to be SUCH a fucking let down after the other shows she’s seen at my school like#the productions she saw were SO GOOD on a technical standpoint and both of the productions this year were so bad :((((#like even conveptually I don’t even know if I’m fully convinced and I’m in the show!!!#And idk. It’s hard when you don’t have an extended family (or like much of a family at all)#so the only people coming to your show are like. Broadway technicians#the closest thing I have to an uncle is a lighting designer and a stage manager my mother knows#very fun sometimes. Other times I want to throw myself onto a pyre#Why do the stakes have to be so high why can’t they just be happy to support me :)) I shall never be the center of her world. Ah well#But also we would not be as close as we are without our shared love of theater production so. Catch-22#And at the end of the day I’m more sad that I can’t be proud of the show#it’s not anyone’s fault it just is and I need to be okay with it#I worked really hard and it matters that I’m doing this#GOD SORRY!!!#vent#portal of rambling
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Me: I don't like Cats the musical. You could not pay me to ever see it live.
Perelman Performing Arts Center: We're doing a version of Cats inspired by ballroom culture!
Me: Ok... that's definitely interesting... I could be into it... but NO still you can't make me want to see it.
PAC: Here's some rehearsal footage of the cast vogueing to Jellicle Ball!
Me: ...I hate that this actually is working... it fits a little too well...
PAC: Also André De Shields is playing Old Deuteronomy!
Me: ...Why must satan tempt me in this way...
#by satan i mean alw#i must say generally i have nothing but love for people who perform in cats (minus the movie. or i guess minus like 75% of the movie cast)#when i watched the 98 version i was like 'wow every single person on this stage is a quadruple threat'#since they could all dance and sing and act and do tricks too#and i adore the original costume and make-up design. totally genius. oh and the set design too.#i always just say that the cast and crew deserve a better show#i've even gone as far as to dive into documentaries about the making of cats and stuff. i still just can't get into it.#i know people love it and i love that for them. i too love weird musicals. just not this one unfortunately.#maybe in this new setting for this production i'd enjoy the show more#and boy is it trying to get me to go and see it. truly that vogueing video. i was so mad.#it was like me watching Solo and seeing them fix the kessel run mistake.#i was like 'NO. no. i'm mad. no. i hate that this is fixed. no. i'm so angry.' when i realized how they were fixing it.#like cool this is better but god i'm mad at the fact that this is better#maybe in august or if it extends AGAIN i'll go and see it. but at least for this first month of performances i won't see it#i wouldn't want to feel like i'm taking away a ticket from an actual fan who already loves the show#while i'd be going mostly to see if they can change my mind about the show#(ALSO. i did not tag this as anything. so no coming at me saying i'm putting hate in a tag)#(if this post shows up in searches then that's tumblr's fault for changing how searches and tagged posts work)#(this is barely hate this is just me being mad while complimenting artistic choices. but even if it was hate i'm still not tagging hate.)#(so don't come at me)
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wait i totally forgot there was a new ep of bmf out today
wow who knows when i'll get round to watching it
#it was a big day today in the evening#i had to leave for work around 3pm#and my parents came to watch the theater production i'm working at#and i also invited my cousin but didn't tell my mom in order to surprise her#also the cast was especially good on stage today!! and it was a fun audience too!!#it was such a fun evening#and then when we got home i was chatting with my mom about the play#bc i wanted to know her impression of it and if my opinions are similar to hers#(they were fnfjjfjf)#and then i had to wash my hair too#and i just. i was so distracted by everything today that i totally forgot about bmf airing today as well fjfjjfjf#it's 2:28 now so no way i'm watching the ep now#interesting tho bc i've been scrolling tumblr for quite a while now and i didn't see a single gif from the show#it was just someone's post talking about it that reminded me of it#bmf#airenyah plappert#adrm#bmf ep11#anyway i had a really good evening at work today#one of the actors needs to interact with the audience at one point and i asked him to go to my dad specifically#and he did and i also asked him to make an italian hand gesture that only my parents would get#(this gesture isn't a thing in austria but my dad being italian and my mom being married to an italian would know)#my mom's laughter was so loud when she saw it gkgkjgjg and my dad was also amused#also after the show two cast members went up to my parents while i was busy tidying up backstage and cleaning props#my mom told me about it later and said they were praising my work and how organized i am#that's so sweet of them 🥺🥺🥺#i do so much of the work that should be the assistant director's job instead#and it's things like this that makes all the extra work just SO worth it#knowing that the cast appreciates it feels well taken care of#this job just feels so RIGHT for me and i really hope i'll be able to turn this into my career
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Re: your comments on there being a lot of underappreciation for the laborer aka people actually working behind the scenes to fully realize kpop concepts beyond the idol, I’ve seen comments floating recently about kpop stans being unhappy that Min Heejin is publicly talking about New Jeans and how she should just fade away now that “her work is done” and they’re popular now.
I’m sure some of this is fed by the dislike of her in some corners of fandom (which is a whole different discussion), but it’s struck me as extremely dismissive of literally everyone’s input to an idols success beyond the idols themselves. I may not be in love with some of the creative choices from the latest new jeans concept, but i honestly wish we got more public input from creative teams on how they are creating the holistic experience of a kpop release rather than less. It’s so interesting to see all the work that goes into it and I always end up appreciating the whole package more when I see that. So it makes me sad to watch people demean all this work that goes into things so they can hold onto this weird delusion that artists are solitary pillars that do it themselves.
i...........why are people unhappy with her saying that...???????? yea she's the head creative but the group isn't literally about her???? it's not like she's gonna vanish??????? i don't even........man what the fuck is happening in kpop stan spaces sometimes.
kpop does have a real issue with pedestalling particular people specifically because literally the idol's job is to be the face of the project. so that combined with the lack of arts education combined with how the kpop industry purposefully protects staff identities exacerbates the problem. at least with intl fans. from what people have told me it's generally pretty acknowledged by the sk gp that kpop is a collective effort and there are big teams involved, and idols are just the face. i do really wish there was more education and ability for production people to talk about their work, but the truth is that most of us work behind the camera for a reason; we're not particularly interested in being in front of it and neither are we interesting or catchy by camera standards. also most of the time we're too busy. there are definitely some places where designers have talked about their processes and how they work (the abstract series on netflix is great for that) and designers will sometimes give talks so if you know names you can go searching for them if they get filmed (also rare sadly), plus there are two big theatre design conventions that happen every two years (prague quadrennial and world stage design, they alternate like the olympics), but a lot of stuff just hasn't spread outside of the industry because people are unwilling to break that auteur myth, again because it weakens the people in positions of power.
#pq is SO fun i went in 2019 and had a fucking blast. i dont think i can go this year but i have to see#like truly i dont think its wrong to have people that take care of marketing + ppl that act as the face of a collaborative project#bc god knows most production people do NOT want to be on stage/camera#but the problem comes from the monolith artist myth and the lack of education around art itself#and also a lot of ppl are not interested in the details of the artmaking process. which is the sad truth#kpop questions#text#answers
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perched calmly awaiting the opening of summer stock in an hour and a half unless this first night has a special debut schedule....goodspeed musicals instagram post curtain call pics or smthing....
#we all know will ''orville wingate'' roland is an elusive and a coy but maybe other people will be taking & posting some pics lol#wrapping my head around the weekly scheduling like okay fridays one performance at 8#two one show days three two show days and One of those two show days becomes a one show day & vice versa next month. two zero show days#anyways lots of opportunities but can't get those hopes Way up. for example i am still awaiting ppl updating their sites w/panic of '29 pix#a show where even gleaning plot was like okay i don't Think everyone got nuked to death. pretty sure.#anyways i want to know what's going on in here too....summer stock....fr anyone feel free to be in or go to ct & relay any info for fun#i Know they will be having fun in there....breaking into the goodspeed musicals archive (trying to; just kicking off the heist w/o knowing#whether that exists in any form) like ya gotta go for it. if summer stock taught me one thing#summer stock#getting in the way of anyone trying to look up the tag for the film. well: there's also this stage production. now. tonight. hour twenty mn#and i did see that film....material
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