#boycott disney+ though don't watch this there

[thislifewasneverours]

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[sirfrogsworth]

These folks watched a whole ass movie not realizing the main character was transgender and it was a 2 second kiss between men that made them lose their ever-loving minds.

It's amazing to me that if it weren't for those 2 seconds, many of these folks would have given this movie a 4 or 5 star review. But two seconds of the most vanilla, non-sexy, yet genuine and loving kiss somehow ruined every moment of enjoyment the previous 90 minutes brought them.

Imagine if they realized the trans allegory. I wish I had a way to tell them. I wish I had a way to make them realize they related to a trans character. That they rooted for them. That they accidentally empathized with a trans story.

This was a beautiful movie. In every sense. I really hope between this and Spider-Verse, we can have a moratorium on every 3D animated movie using this style of character design.

It's time to let go of the rubber toy look.

I love Toy Story, but its success kind of doomed 3D animation to never take any risks. I thought maybe it was just a limitation of the medium, and perhaps it was for a time... but after seeing Love Death + Robots and Arcane...

I realized they can make 3D animation look however the hell they want now.

The rubber people were just risk avoidance.

"That's what people are used to and so we're sticking with it."

But the real beauty of Nimona was the story. I won't spoil it but the plot is pretty much, "If you get to know a trans person, you probably won't hate them anymore."

Not knowing any trans people is one of the biggest factors in anti-trans bigotry. And so this movie uses allegory to let an audience get to know a trans person. And you get to experience someone slowly start to understand what it is to be trans from an outside perspective.

It's sad that will probably be lost on those folks above because all they will remember is the kiss. Seriously, it was such a harmless, mundane, blink-and-you-miss-it kiss. But I'm hoping that others will take the lesson of this movie to heart. That you should get to know people before you judge them.

Part of me does wish we could tell trans stories without allegory. That we could just have overt trans characters. But I think this is the best representation possible right now.

It's crazy that Supergirl was one of the bravest shows as far as modern trans representation. It wasn't an edgy HBO drama trying to push boundaries. It was a family-friendly superhero show and they were just like, "Here is a transgender woman with superpowers and it's fine." And I loved that it was part of the character but it wasn't all the character was. Though I think they just missed the manufactured "moral panic" window where that choice would have been extremely controversial causing boycotts of Warner Bros. and whatnot.

My only complaint about Nimona was a small penis joke. It went by very quickly and many may even miss it. But I was surprised to see it in this movie in particular. Especially since those jokes can have collateral damage toward trans folks. With all of the positive messages, wasting a joke on body shaming was a tad disappointing. I mean, it was a fairly lighthearted "Is it cold in here?" joke. I don't want to make it sound worse than it was. But it still registered on my Richter scale of things that bother me.

Anyway, I wholeheartedly give Nimona a 5 out of 5. It helped me understand my friends on a deeper level and it was warm and funny and entertaining. There was a scene at the end that was so beautiful and heart-wrenching and I was crying my eyes out. The animation and the symbolism and the acting were just so perfect.

It's a shame Disney tried to kill this movie. But I am so glad it was allowed to exist despite that.

[mcufandomhatespeopleofcolor]

This might be me thinking too much, but I'm honestly worried that Disney will take the well deserved boycott of next year's captain america movie as "proof" that movies with Black leads that aren't profitable when it has nothing to do with Sam Wilson at all.

I don't think its you thinking too much honestly. Its complicated tbh. Like ok I didn't want sabra in cap 4 either. and there was definitely pressure on disney/marvel to do reshoots for cap 4.

but the other side of it is that there's a couple of all white properties (deadpool & wolverine, agatha all along) that are doing GREAT. And before anyone comes at me with AAL not being all white I've only seen Aubrey Plaza trend from the show despite the fact that she's a transphobe and white/white passing. Not to mention if the theories are right about Locke's character being a son of Wanda he should be romani/jewish so he's been whitewashed.

Also other diverse marvel properties like The Marvels and Ms. Marvel (I'm talking about her show's rerelease on ABC after it had been released on Disney+) have failed miserably. There's just like no... self awareness from white fans who have gone to see dp&w several times in theaters. They don't care about the bds boycott.

I honestly feel like white ppl at large are very quick to pick up on sjw terms and boycotts to justify why they won't watch diverse properties. You can see it in the way that the marvels failed at the box office even though the strike ended around the same time it came out. you can see it in the way white girls are shipping dp/w and don't give a shit about the sapphic representation in Carol Danvers because her lover was a Black woman Maria Rambeau. Meanwhile the entirety of tumblr is obsessed with AAL because again a white gay ship is at its core.

I'm just so tired of this shit.

mod ali

[fairuzfan]

okay, so i know technically BDS hasn't called for folks to boycott PJO. but a LOT of Palestinians organizing anti-Israel protest have and I don't understand why so many people seem to think that doesn't count for anything bc it doesn't come from BDS?

i saw that post you reblogged on it and i'm so confused about the ppl complaining on it bc...boycottings not that hard and its a form of pressuring disney, which BDS HAS called for. is this just a case of ppl not understanding or just genuinely being so attached to their shows they don't give a fuck?

(i'm also palestinian btw and love your account.)

What sucks is I'm a PJO fan (or at least I used to be) but after Rick's stupid ass statement about "humans blaming each other" or whatever I can't even think of watching it without a sour taste in my mouth.

I am severely disinterested in what genocide apologists have to say, whether fictionalized or in actuality. I don't understand how anyone else can be interested in it at this point. Even Abbott elementary, I can't watch that shit even though I was excited for the next season knowing that people on there are genocide apologists and don't see Palestinians as people. They fully allied themselves with the imperial war machine and they're not shy about it.

If you wanna watch, fine, whatever, just don't give him the social capital by posting everywhere. Just out of respect at least.

[twopoppies]

"not that i can afford pleasing but disney is literally on the boycott list"

I don't care one way or another for pleasing either but please can we allow people to live their lives without throwing at them some boycott list internet warriors like to feel superior and get mad over. Over this past month I watched the remake of beauty and the beast, I had a cheeseburger at McDonald's and drank a pumpkin spice late from starbucks. This doesn't make me a bad person

Personally, I don’t think a brand aligning themselves with a company that is so polarizing is a smart move. As far as the boycott goes, I do think for some people it’s very much virtue signaling to bring that up, for others it is yet one more sign that this brand/person doesn’t align with their values.

I think this fandom tends to act as though Harry set off an atomic bomb every time something he’s connected to is anything less than absolutely pure from every standpoint. The truth is somewhere in between.

People have been complaining that Harry isn’t connected to Pleasing since, maybe, the fourth drop. You can’t have it both ways. He can’t be so disconnected that you won’t buy it and you think it sucks, but simultaneously be angry at him for collaborating with a company you don’t support. Yes, his name is attached to Pleasing, and maybe he signed off on this collab, but I don’t think we can use it as a watershed moment where we all realize he’s actually a terrible person.

[mewmewpercy]

Hello there! Recently I saw your reblog regarding the hoyoverse boycott about whether we should play continuing playing Genshin or not. That same twt user made a thread about how will it no longer participate make any twts about the boycott and how disappointed they are with the boycott is failing.

https://x.com/KinichCEO/status/1823430343157780740?t=uus6sG-A30Vw44EET-rlqQ&s=19

While I can understand their reasoning I feel like they are still missing out some key details.

For example with the upcoming Captain American movie coming out the BDS wants everyone to boycott everything thats related to Marvel/Disney in order to remove Captain Israel or Sabra from the movie. As of right now I haven't watch a single Marvel or Disney media since the release of Sabra but that doesn't mean I can still like and enjoy Spiderverse and the only merch that I have bought that is Marvel related are usually from artists who are selling their own merchandise. Not something from official Marvel/Disney

Like you said it's hard to boycott a gacha game and the only way you can do that is by attacking their main income. Which is why many encourage to be f2p. What many fail to realize is that idea that hotoverse game has a BIG community of whalers. When in reality that only a small community many do not have that privilege on having a c6 5 star. I have been a f2p since the 2nd Lantern rite and I only spent money on the game on 2 characters out of 13 chatacter that I won by saving

Aiya you bring up a very good point I've forgotten. You can very much like a product and hate the creator.

The idea that every hoyo gamer is a whale has to be the product of youtubers. They have the privilege to spend money the average player can't. A lot of players are young and jobless. A lot of players don't think spending on games is necessary. I play star rail f2p and the only reason I have very few limiteds is because of the lack of interesting male characters or the unfortunate timing of reruns. I feel like it's an unfair assessment to assume an entire playerbase spends thousands because a loud minority does.

Back on the like the product hate the maker idea though. I like music from genshin and star rail. I won't deny that. I also enjoy many character trailers. Am I inherently a terrible racist because I enjoy products made by a shitty company? No. No I am not. Maybe I'll use less than ideal routes of enjoying them to avoid profiting the company instead. Maybe I'd rather commend the work of entire other teams of people separate from the higher ups that are most likely the issue. I've stopped liking content. I don't look at all the art posted. I download whatever I deem useful off the tiktok pages and share with people who play to avoid them getting even a cent extra.

The 5.0 program is supposed to be Friday. Normally I watch them or scrub through vods. I'm not even bothering because I'd rather engage with fans reposting the info than looking at the source. Most of my enjoyment stems from fans anyways and I'm always subject to spoilers about 20 times day of so why bother?

All in all people generalise these games players way too damn much because they assume what they hear loud youtubers say is true for everyone. They assume everyone is dropping hundreds or thousands of dollars. They assume people even spend a dime on refreshes or welkin or small amounts of currency.

People also act like you should be burned at the stake for daring to enjoy things. I can enjoy game lore and music without enjoying the rare time I could be represented being full of races not even close to mine and all white in game. I can say yea I do enjoy someone's trailer and still think they deserve melanin. I don't support the company I support the workers trying their damndest to do what they can to represent cultures.

Just because people play doesn't mean they aren't boycotting and it's a dick move to try and push people to quit or be hella negative just because some loud people say they'll spend. People who whale have decided to skip entirely. People who barely spend went f2p. Even f2p players are debating skipping banners or only pulling on a few. The community dividing over shitty assumptions will be the reason we fail not because people play without paying.

[codedcore]

You all suck at boycotting

Jesus Christ you have all failed. I am so disappointed with all of you that still pay for Amazon Prime.

Amazon is one of a few pressure targets on the BDS Movement in support of Palestine. "The BDS movement actively calls for pressure campaigns against these targets. This includes boycotts when reasonable alternatives exist, as well as lobbying, peaceful disruptions, and social media pressure."

But now, Hazbin Hotel has broken records as one of the 'largest global debut in viewership for a new animated title on the platform.' During a boycott you have reached new records, congratulations. It makes no sense to me either, since there are other ways on watching the show, its crazy but the internet exists! There are ways to watch shows for free! This isn't new news, why are you still paying for your millions of subscriptions?

As well as not only that, but the creator of the show doesn't care for the ongoing genocide either. This is her on a Disney trip this month just a few days ago.

This is her also eating Starbucks AND KFC, neither are on the BDS movement but has been major boycott targets. I've seen some claims about how these were from a trip before Oct 7, but that doesn't matter, she is still posting these companies in a positive light. It's also just weird posting food you ate like ages ago I don't get these claims.

Don't think I forgot about Percy Jackson either, Disney is ALSO on the boycott list and it is also beating records (though technically, further in this article it talks about Percy Jackson being one of the biggest premiers, except for Ahsoka earlier this year).

Instead of wasting your money on these shows, cancel your Amazon Prime or Disney+ subscriptions and instead go here. It's a masterpost for charities, GoFundMe's, petitions and more on how to help the people in Gaza.

[randomnoteforfuturereference]

So with the fact that Strange World has become a box office flop, there have been many folks who have seen it begging the rest of fandom tumblr to go see it. Because it has a cool environmental concept and diverse characters. Because it puts another spin on the generational trauma theme. Because the normalized gay rep there isn't just a blink-and-miss that can be easily edited out but rather an explicit crush that becomes a talking point all through the film; enough so that the reactionaries are pissed.

But that's not about that.

Instead it’s about the dismissive reactions going "Oh you're just Goncharov-ing us" (nevermind that the whole meme came after the release of Strange World) or continuing to forward the "Disney's first gay character" meme despite that users here (who'd be the first to mock Disney for that) have been consistently saying otherwise. And more importantly it’s about the "I'll just pirate it" and "I refuse to watch" declarations that are crowned in the aura of self-righteously sticking it to Disney.

To that last part... come close so I can let you in on a little secret:

Juuust a bit closer.

Closer.

*deep breath*

The Mouse isn't hurt by you.

Look at all the projects Disney churns out internationally between all its branches. In the grand scheme of things, even within a year, a hundred million dollar box office bomb is barely a scuff to it.

You know who is potentially hurt by the flop though?

The multitudes of creatives that work not just there but at other studios (studios will look at each other to see what works and what doesn't), as well as storytellers pitching ideas that do go against the formula. And potentially entire departments. Because it really feels like Disney has been under the impression that Animation/Pixar section is pointless; remember that Encanto and Turning Red didn't get popular because of Disney's marketing but in spite of it.

Remember the joke: nobody hates Disney more than Disney creatives.

On the flipside, when works after works that promote positive rep do well (especially if coupled with the old formulas faltering), it sends the signal to Hollywood to change course. And in that line, it does pay to boycott works that have no place in today's society.

And that even affects the ability of indie stuff to succeed.

Now if you don’t care for Disney and don’t want to support it or any of its IPs, nobody's stopping you. And the purpose of this isn't specifically to force the watching of one work or the other. And hell, movie tickets are pricey so decisions have to be made. Besides, even if all of Disneyblr gets on board, barely a dent would be made at the box office.

Just don't try to think that abstention or pirating makes a grand statement.

[orange-ghost]

Hello sorry to bother you with this all of sudden and this might be coming out of nowhere but I m trying to get more people into this show with great potential Have you heard of or watched moon girl and devil dinosaur? season 2 comes out February 2 it the main character i love she gives me autistic vibes I’m autistic has interesting characters, action ,great music, and animation ,good themes and representation Anime references it even has an eyecatch. Season 2 is going to be more story driven if you find that interesting it be good if you watch season 2 episode when they air so the ratings will be higher I’m scared Disney might be trying to sabotage the show with airing 2 episodes a week when it airs on Disney channel February they did the same with season 1 and the ratings where low despite that it still won 5 Emmys

I have seen a bit of it! And yeah, I like it! But uh... the boycott, dude. Disney's been supporting Israel w/ the whole Gaza situation so I'd actually advise against doing this. It's sad, and frankly there's little to no 100% ethical consumption under capitalism to my understanding, but no cartoon is worth indirectly giving cash to the genocidal if we don't ABSOLUTELY need to. Don't take it personal though, I'm guessing you didn't know.

[ilovescaredysquirrel2]

Elemental wasn't as bad as I thought but I still hate Disney

Okay, so i watched Elemental and it wasn't as bad as I thought but I still hate Disney and I think it's a good decision to boycott Disney plus. The pirated versions have just as good quality as Disney plus, and Disney is making a lot of bad decisions. Elemental was actually way better than I thought, I absolutely loved the characters (except Clod) and it wasn't as bad as I thought though. I thought it was gonna be a terrible Zootopia-like story but it wasn't. The only complaint was Clod being in love with Ember when he's a literal child... like, the whole kid having a crush on adult trope is so disgusting in family movies. Especially coming from Disney, and we know their p*dophilia from the past. (The age gaps between the princesses and princes in classic movies, and showing Colleen Ballinger in Ralph Wrecks the internet, and they still decided to make a child have a crush on a grown women? gross!) At least Ember didn't like him back but idk why people think a little kid having a crush on an adult is "cute" because it's not. They did it in Disney channel shows as well and as a kid I had no idea how weird it was. I still give Elemental maybe a 6/10

Okay, so I'm going to mostly talk about Disney's past racism and their new show "Primos" and why they'll never learn! I'm a white American so no one's gonna listen to me but if you're ethnic group they're making fun of, YOU SHOULD PROTEST! Boycott Disney plus, cancel your subscription, write complaint emails/letters to them, do EVERYTHING you can to let them know that Primos is a terrible show and that it should have never been greenlit and that they can't make money off of that crap! I'm not Hispanic or Latino, but I heard a lot of Hispanic and Latino people were offended at the show Primos. Again, please take my word for it and DO NOT get Disney plus if you don't have it and if you do have it, boycott it somehow. We gotta file complaints, too! Just, DO SOMETHING TO STOP THEM FROM RELEASING THIS SHOW! They've been bad enough over the years with the racism (early Mickey mouse cartoons) and now they're going back to the 1920s again because Primos is just as racist as they used to be.

So yeah, you heard me annoying little rants and you know how I feel about Disney. There's only like 12 movies I like from them out of... like 1000? As for the Disney channel sitcoms and cartoons, most of those I enjoy. Hannah Montana, Good Luck Charlie, Liv & Maddie, Suite life, A.N.T farm, Austin & Ally, Raven, you name it! All those shows were so fun! My favorite cartoons were Jungle Junction and Fish Hooks but Phineas and Ferb was cool too. I'm also starting to get into the new show called Kiff, about a squirrel (but it doesn't beat Scaredy Squirrel). As much as I hate Disney, I don't want to ignore the good kids shows they've had over the years, like from my era, the 2000s. I hate most of their old movies and I really think the new cartoon Primos makes Disney channel look bad. Encanto and Coco represented the culture so well, why couldn't Primos do the same? Anyway, there was my rant. Please comment or reblog if you have anything to say

[wenellyb]

are you going to be boycotting brave new world/new marvel in general bc of palestine

Hi Anon, good question. It's hard to tell because the release date is si far away, so I can't affirm anything for sure. What I can tell you is that, if the movie was coming out today, this week or this month I wouldn't go watch it.

And it has a little less to do with the whole Disney/Marvel and more to do with their refusal to remove a certain character from the movie even though they are in the middle of rewriting and re-shooting scenes for the movie so they could have done it if they wanted to.

Here's a link to a post about it, and in the 2nd picture/panel you see what is wrong about having this character in the MCU.

I'm only talking about Brave New World because between now and the release date next year, there aren't any Marvel projects I'm excited about enough, so I wouldn't have been watching them any way.

What about you Anon?

[draculeo]

I haven't been watching anything on D+ (both because of the boycott and also because they don't have anything I care to see) but I had heard that Disney was no longer part of the boycott

you can check the BDS website here. they’re currently on the “pressure” list which isn’t necessarily boycotting but definitely at least calls for not actively promoting their shows. I personally am still boycotting them and going out of my way to boycott as many isr*eli companies as possible, though I know this isn’t realistic for most and I urge sticking to the BDS list.

[medicinemane]

Hmm... I really kind of don't want to discuss my full thoughts on this cause... I don't trust people to be able to discuss stuff like adults. I see too much stuff where people just... you know, kind of stop listening and don't let you finish your point before they decide what your real point was and tell you you're wrong

So I'll try and once again keep things very very broad strokes and just say, I'm perfectly willing to allow people to have a couple things that they know maybe aren't great to be buying into, but that for one reason or another they want or need

Like I'm not going to lay into someone for playing Blizzard games even though they know they're a shitty company for example... but what gets frustrating is people who refuse to have... even the slightest bit of morals

Was talking with my friend who oscillates between smart and total fucking moron, and he was in total moron mode and was like "well if a game's good, you can't expect people not to play it" and it's like... actually I can... I really can, because I can do that myself

Like I said, I don't take as hard line a stance as maybe some people would want me to, I'm willing to forgive a few indulgences into stuff you probably shouldn't watch, like... I hate rings of power so much I never talk about it, but if someone was just dying dying to see it, I'd probably just leave them to it

But like man... pick something to have some level of moral backbone about. I don't expect everyone to boycott everything forever, cause like... every company you deal with is probably doing something harmful somewhere, but that doesn't mean you have to pound back nestle while streaming disney as you browse twitter

I don't expect people to cut everything out, but man... you can cut like... one thing out

[queer-as-used-by-tolkien]

So I haven't kept up with the uhh 'DeSantis vs Disney' recently, though it's not surprising to me.

That said. As an extremely fundamental Christian libertarian, let me say that I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THE RIGHT OF DISNEY AND ANYONE ELSE TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THEY WANT TO SUPPORT!!

This is the other side of the coin to the 'gay wedding cake' thing. People and businesses should be allowed to have autonomy and freedom of expression and action. Even when I personally disagree with them.

More importantly, the government should not have the power to stop them from doing so. People, individuals, groups, movements - they can boycott Disney. But the government should STAY AWAY. It's not their business. It's NOT their business.

I don't understand why anyone would want to stop companies from making their own policies as long as they don't harm anyone?? If you're giving benefits to same-sex unmarried couples, WHY SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT CARE?

Fundie right-wing Christians can and should care, but they also have the right to determine what their family watches. They do not have the right to tell Disney what it can and can't do, and they shouldn't, IMO, be so upset when Disney does something they don't like. This is literally part of our worldview: that the non-Christians will not follow our moral code and will 100% assuredly hate us for having a moral code whether or not we press it on them. I don't know why anyone is surprised.

But they're allowed to be surprised. They're allowed to peacefully protest. Social debates happen. Movements are a thing. Society and culture changes. Social debates don't have to be political debates. There should be no governmental legislature on anything except what directly concerns criminal activity and keeping the majority of the populace safe.

I haven't been keeping up with DeSantis but some things I've heard about him recently remind me why I'm libertarian and not right-wing, although my beliefs line up with Republicans most of the time: I don't believe the government should have a fraction more power than it absolutely needs to have. You can't legislate morality. We are a free country with freedom of religion. The government shouldn't be banning anything, from books to pride parades to free speech (on both sides).

I support Disney in this, despite the fact that I disagree with them ideologically on this issue, because I believe in the right of companies to have their own policies, to deal with whom they choose to deal with, to hire whom they choose to hire, to have whatever contracts they like with whoever they like.

So I’ve been enjoying the Disney vs. DeSantis memes as much as anyone, but like. I do feel like a lot of people who had normal childhoods are missing some context to all this.

I was raised in the Bible Belt in a fairly fundie environment. My parents were reasonably cool about some things, compared to the rest of my family, but they certainly had their issues. But they did let me watch Disney movies, which turned out to be a point of major contention between them and my other relatives.

See, I think some people think this weird fight between Disney and fundies is new. It is very not new. I know that Disney’s attempts at inclusion in their media have been the source of a lot of mockery, but what a lot of people don’t understand is that as far as actual company policy goes, Disney has actually been an industry leader for queer rights. They’ve had policies assuring equal healthcare and partner benefits for queer employees since the early 90s.

I’m not sure how many people reading this right now remember the early 90s, but that was very much not industry standard. It was a big deal when Disney announced that non-married queer partners would be getting the same benefits as the married heterosexual ones.

Like — it went further than just saying that any unmarried partners would be eligible for spousal benefits. It straight-up said that non-same-sex partners would still need to be married to receive spousal benefits, but because same-sex partners couldn’t do that, proof that they lived together as an established couple would be enough.

In other words, it put long-term same-sex partners on a higher level than opposite-sex partners who just weren’t married yet. It put them on the exact same level as heterosexual married partners.

They weren’t the first company ever to do this, but they were super early. And they were certainly the first mainstream “family-friendly” company to do it.

Conservatives lost their damn minds.

Protests, boycotts, sermons, the whole nine yards. I can’t tell you how many books about the evils of Disney my grandmother tried to get my parents to read when I was a kid.

When we later moved to Florida, I realized just how many queer people work at Disney — because historically speaking, it’s been a company that has guaranteed them safety, non-discrimination, and equal rights. That’s when I became aware of their unofficial “Gay Days” and how Christians would show up from all over the country to protest them every year. Apparently my grandmother had been upset about these days for years, but my parents had just kind of ignored her.

Out of curiosity, I ended up reading one of the books my grandmother kept leaving at our house. And friends — it’s amazing how similar that (terrible, poorly written) rhetoric was to what people are saying these days. Disney hires gay pedophiles who want to abuse your children. Disney is trying to normalize Satanism in our beautiful, Christian America. 

Just tons of conspiracy theories in there that ranged from “a few bad things happened that weren’t actually Disney’s fault, but they did happen” to “Pocahontas is an evil movie, not because it distorts history and misrepresents indigenous life, but because it might teach children respect for nature. Which, as we all know, would cause them all to become Wiccans who believe in climate change.”

Like — please, take it from someone who knows. This weird fight between fundies and Disney is not new. This is not Disney’s first (gay) rodeo. These people have always believed that Disney is full of evil gays who are trying to groom and sexually abuse children.

The main difference now is that these beliefs are becoming mainstream. It’s not just conservative pastors who are talking about this. It’s not just church groups showing up to boycott Gay Day. Disney is starting to (reluctantly) say the quiet part out loud, and so are the Republicans. Disney is publicly supporting queer rights and announcing company-supported queer events and the Republican Party is publicly calling them pedophiles and enacting politically driven revenge.

This is important, because while this fight has always been important in the history of queer rights, it is now being magnified. The precedent that a fight like this could set is staggering. For better or for worse, we live in a corporation-driven country. I don’t like it any more than you do, and I’m not about to defend most of Disney’s business practices. But we do live in a nation where rights are largely tied to corporate approval, and the fact that we might be entering an age where even the most powerful corporations in the country are being banned from speaking out in favor of rights for marginalized people… that’s genuinely scary.

Like… I’ll just ask you this. Where do you think we’d be now, in 2023, if Disney had been prevented from promising its employees equal benefits in 1994? That was almost thirty years ago, and look how far things have come. When I looked up news articles for this post from that era, even then journalists, activists, and fundie church leaders were all talking about how a company of Disney’s prominence throwing their weight behind this movement could lead to the normalization of equal protections in this country.

The idea of it scared and thrilled people in equal parts even then. It still scares and thrills them now.

I keep seeing people say “I need them both to lose!” and I get it, I do. Disney has for sure done a lot of shit over the years. But I am begging you as a queer exvangelical to understand that no. You need Disney to win. You need Disney to wipe the fucking floor with these people.

Right now, this isn’t just a fight between a giant corporation and Ron DeSantis. This is a fight about the right of corporations to support marginalized groups. It’s a fight that ensures that companies like Disney still can offer benefits that a discriminatory government does not provide. It ensures that businesses much smaller than Disney can support activism.

Hell, it ensures that you can support activism.

The fight between weird Christian conspiracy theorists and Disney is not new, because the fight to prevent any tiny victory for marginalized groups is not new. The fight against the normalization of othered groups is not new.

That’s what they’re most afraid of. That each incremental victory will start to make marginalized groups feel safer, that each incremental victory will start to turn the tide of public opinion, that each incremental victory will eventually lead to sweeping law reform.

They’re afraid that they won’t be able to legally discriminate against us anymore.

So guys! Please. This fight, while hilarious, is also so fucking important. I am begging you to understand how old this fight is. These people always play the long game. They did it with Roe and they’re doing it with Disney.

We have! To keep! Pushing back!

[kingorgan]

Just asking... why do you criticize JKR but also reblog Harry Potter gifs? I'm saying this as a someone who's reread the books every two weeks in my preteen years.

Giving platform to her work contributes to her presence on this website, and the presence and popularity are a way to endorse products that give royalties to her. And you know what she uses all that money for.

Harry Potter was literally my childhood, and yes, it was hard to let it go completely at first...but she's really not worth it. You can't separate the work from the creator when it still gives the creator money.

Hey! Just to start, I wanted to firstly thank you for being kind in your question asking, and secondly to set the tone for my answer since obviously tone can be hard to read through text. My tone throughout this entire answer is one of kindness and sincerity. I am not at any point mad or upset.

I do not support JKR in any financial way. As soon as her twitter rant made its way to my side of the internet, I made the decision to stop purchasing anything official to do with HP. I was in the middle of collecting those 20th Anniv edition books with all the houses. I stopped. Previously I would have bought merch, I wanted to go to the theme park etc. I do not do or plan to do those things anymore.

I own merch that I do not wear outside my house, because I don't want to make people feel unsafe. I have a tattoo that I can't do much about, but when people take notice of it (and I feel I'm personally safe to do so) I say thanks but fuck JKR, right? So far, no one has disagreed with me, but I am armed with gentle arguments if someone ever does.

But I do still engage with fan content. I listen to a few podcasts that have openly distanced themselves from JKR (Harry Potter and the Sacred Text, and Witch Please), I still reread the books, I still watch the movies (which I have on dvd and bought long before any of this), I still read and write HP fanfic, and I still reblog HP content on tumblr alongside JKR criticism which I tag the same.

What I feel like your question is implying though is the idea that there is a right and a wrong way to respond to and/or boycott something like JKR's transphobia.

As a person who has been active politically for a good long while now, something that you learn quickly is that you can't do everything. For example, I love make up and I boycott brands that aren't cruelty free. But different people have different ideas about what cruelty free means. There's kinda three levels to it. 1) that the brand has a cruelty free certification 2) has a cruelty free cert and doesn't sell on mainland China where their gov can require animal testing on any product whenever they want, though historically this is rare 3) all of the above plus their parent company is also cruelty free.

I do number two because as much as I want to stop animal testing on cosmetic products, I do not have the bandwidth to work out what everyones parent company is. But there a lot of people who would say I must not care about eliminating animal testing if I don't go all the way. I would disagree with those people.

This is not the only boycotting I do. There are coffee companies I will not buy at because their owners came out as homophobes during my country's same sex marriage debate. I boycott Disney, because they're an evil company which yes, includes Marvel and Star Wars because they are the same company. By which I mean I do not financially support them and find ways to watch what little I do want to watch through other means that doesn't give the mouse any money.

But I also don't judge people who don't do those things.

My priorities are not everyone's priorities. Beyond even boycotting - I am in full support of BLM protests in the USA. But I am not American, and whilst there is a lot I can learn from race discussions the US has, my priority is always going to be my own country's racist history and present. And I'd rather use my time and energy to talk about and learn about what is happening in my country rather than theirs.

All of this is to say that, after paying attention to the trans and non binary people who were speaking about this topic at the time, parsing through my own feelings and thoughts on the subject, and then discussing them with people that I trusted to call me out if I needed to be, I decided fan content was okay. But that I would always engage with the books and movies in a way that was critical of them and their creator.

I don't view reblogging HP gifsets whilst also reblogging criticism as anything different to what HP and the Sacred Text does, or watching the movie with friends who I also have critical discussions with.

Does reblogging gifsets of HP increase her presence on this website, and therefore lead to more sales? It's unlikely. Most people on this website will be aware of what JKR has done and will have made up their mind already on whether they are going to continue supporting her financially or not. Will there be people who follow me thinking I'm a "safe" pro JKR person? Maybe, but they're unlikely to think it for very long given that I also reblog anti JKR stuff. And maybe the post that they see will be one of many interactions that chip away at their terfness.

In the end, it's just as likely that reblogging anti JKR stuff will be seen by a terf who uses that as an excuse to buy more HP stuff because they feel the need to support her more. This is also possible, but unlikely so it won't stop me from reblogging them.

At the end of the day, how everyone has chosen to respond to JKR is personal, and there is no right or wrong way to do it, short of outright supporting and agreeing with her. I don't have to let go of HP completely, to let go of JKR. You might have felt that you had to, and I would not be mad or upset if you felt the need to block me because of this. But not responding in the exact way you did, does not mean that I am boycotting wrong, nor does it make me a bad person or anti-trans.

Maybe one day I will agree with you and stop reblogging them. My opinion is not stagnate. But that's where I'm at right now.

[tangledbea]

YOOO WHY IS TANGLED THE SERIES TRENDING AT 1 IN THE MORNING???

Look, I don't know why Tangled was trending all day yesterday. It's kind of sus, though, considering yesterday was the big Disney walkout. I saw our fandom get accused of ignoring the boycott because "we couldn't wait one day to watch our thing" when our series has been over for two years. And unless people I have blocked were particularly prolific, we didn't even seem all that active in the past 24-48 hours.

Also, why were you on Tumblr at 1 am?