#blitz is a good dad

[fizziepopangel]

A Fizziepop Take: Let’s talk about a royally screwed father daughter relationship & a blossoming one

Ok, so this may just be my own daddy issues talking, but I have loved the two different father/daughter relationships Vivzie has shown us in both Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel, but I wanna talk about the two we’re all obsessed with in the HB universe: Stolas and his little owelette, and Blitz and his Loonie, because we have seen so much development in these father/daughter relationships, and although I have taken a short holiday break between posts, I wanna talk about this, so you know what time it is, let’s get into this!

Blitz & Loona

Ok, so I have talked about how Loona’s past heavily affected her relationship with her adoptive father in a past post, but to sum it up, I’ve always liked the complexity of Loona and Blitz’s relationship because it mimics the complexity of a real parent/child relationship forged in the traumas each party has faced individually. Loona has always loved Blitz, and she has always viewed him as a father figure, but the trauma of her life prior to being in his care made her build walls and push him away at every chance because she had developed a “hurt/leave them before they can hurt/leave you” mentality, often meaning she would do and say anything to make it seem like she didn’t care about him and didn’t need him despite her craving the love he’s always given her. Does it excuse the way she’s treated her adoptive father? Not at all, but I think understanding the reasoning behind why Loona was the way she was with Blitz prior to “Mastermind”. Now, onto the father. Blitz’s constant overcompensation and essential ‘babying’ of Loona despite her being an adult now has been his attempt to embody the phrase “be who you needed when you were younger”. While we don’t know much about Blitz’s mother at this point (other than the fact that he loves and misses her and still blames himself for her death), we do know that Cash Buckzo was an abusive, manipulative man who made Blitz feel like less than at every chance he had, and Blitz saw a lot of the hurt he felt as a kid in Loona when he found her in the pound, and he’s spent every moment since her adoption to give her the love and support he wished he had from his own father when he was a kid, which resulted in Blitz being a bit of a pushover when it came to Loona all for the sake of being better than his father. And although we do see glimpses of Loona breaking her walls down ever so slightly and changing their dynamic, everything combined from both of their pasts is what made Blitz and Loona’s father/daughter relationship seem so one-sided…. That is until season 1’s episode “Queen Bee”...

In season 1’s episode “Queen Bee”, Blitz is spiraling from the events of his “date” with Stolas in the episode prior, and we see him using sex and alcohol to cope with the complex emotions he’s feeling, and in that vein, he’s partying with Loona and the other hellhounds in Beelzebub's realm of Gluttony. Blitz’s party boy nature earns him a lot of “friends” for the night, which in turn, earns Loona a lot of attention having a relation to him, which helps her tremendously with her anxiety and awkwardness at the party… Although Loona’s excitement and closeness to Blitz seemed to be purely for the attention he garnered, by the end of the episode, we do see a side of her that shows a sort of gentleness towards her adoptive father, and thankfully that growth between the two is carried on as the series goes on, which leads us to the emotional episode that is “Mastermind”.

“Mastermind” is a huge turning point for Blitz and Loona’s relationship because, while Blitz wears his heart on his sleeve when it comes to his beloved little hellhound, this is the first time Loona lets her feelings for Blitz show outwardly in front of other people, and it’s the turning point for Loona internally as she realizes that she probably would be fine without Blitz…. But after all the time spent with him (even when she tries to hate it), she realizes that she doesn’t want to be without him just yet. Not only is this a huge character development for Loona, but it opens up the realm of the types of storylines that can be created now that Loona has outwardly began to accept the imp as her father….

But as with almost everything, there are two sides to every coin, so if we wanna talk about the blossoming of Blitz and Loona’s father/daughter relationship, we most certainly are gonna have to address the father/daughter relationship that we may have watched crumble before our very eyes in “Sinsmas”: Stolas and Octavia.

Stolas & Octavia 

Stolas and Octavia’s father/daughter relationship has been…. Strained to say the least… But not many people are willing to talk about it, or rather they weren’t up until the “Sinsmas” episode was released. Since the release of the latest episode of Helluva Boss, I’ve seen a lot of Octavia hate. Like A LOT of Octavia hate. And I'm just gonna say it: It’s unwarranted, and I think we need to look at both perspectives.

Ok, so I’m not here to bash Stolas for what he did in “Mastermind” because I think he was justified in saving Blitz because, while he wasn’t the mastermind, he did play a part in why Blitz stood of what he was accused of, and I think it was honorable of him to own up to that to save Blitz’s life…. It was stupid not to think of the consequences it posed to him and his way of life since what happens to him can directly affect the wellbeing of his daughter, but it was still honorable. I’m also not here to bash Stolas as a dad because while he’s not been the best father, I think he’s been the best father he knew how to be. Given that Stolas wasn’t taught how to be a parent from what we saw, and most likely learned most of what he did about how to deal with children from the butler imp who seemed to be his keeper as a child, and books,  I think he had to learn more on the fly than more I think most parents do, and I think he deserves mad props for that because I know that it must’ve been insanely hard to have his life flipped upside down the way it was when he learned that he had to not only be a prince but a husband and a father too when he was just a kid himself. And knowing that he did his best to be civil with a woman who abused him and attempted to publicly humiliate him at every chance she got, just for the sake of his daughter is honestly really heartwarming in a way…. But here’s the thing: sometimes doing your best is not enough, and sometimes sheltering someone from the reality of things isn’t what’s best for them, and we see that with Stolas and his relationship with Octavia.

In the episode “Looloo Land”, we see that Octavia’s world was kinda flipped upside down with her father’s affair because this is the first time that Stolas hasn’t tried to put her above everything, and we learn that she’s afraid of losing her dad to the man he’s been sleeping with. It’s a valid concern considering that Via is only maybe 15-16ish during this time, and because of how much her dad tried to keep the home “happy” for her sake, this is likely the first time she’s seen her parents relationship this disjointed and screwed up despite it having always been just that…. And because this is the first time that he himself has ever had to think about himself as a person with wants and needs and feelings, Stolas doesn’t have a solid answer for her on what is going to happen next in either of their lives, and the fact that Stolas brought Blitz to the theme park with them as a “bodyguard” (which kinda just seemed to jam him down Octavia’s throat in a way) didn’t help solidify the idea that her dad wasn’t just going to up and disappear on her.

As Via sees her parents fractured relationship without rose-tinted glasses for what is likely the first time in her life, she begins to place blame solely on Stolas, which isn’t fair to him since it often take 2 to bring a marriage to an end (even if both parties give up on the relationship at different times), but because Stolas never really sits his daughter down and talks to her about why his affair happened, in Via’s eyes, Stolas is at least 80% to blame because Stella isn’t the one who cheated, and what’s even bigger, Stella isn’t the one she held in high regard the way she did Stolas. I know this seems to blame Stolas, but the blame isn’t solely on him realistically, but to an emotional teen who has been shielded from the worst of things and needs someone to blame for her life suddenly being completely changed, placing the blame one the parent who has outwardly done something that could be seen as breaking up the family is easier than trying to navigate the mess that is complex adult relationships. Is this to say that Via telling her dad off in “Sinsmas” was right? No, but it was justified because in her eyes everything is still able to be boiled down to the simplest of forms despite the complexity of a situation because her thinking is still child-like in this instance and prior to this, no one ever put her in a situation where there where shades of gray amidst the black and white, which is why she can ask questions like “Why does he hate her more than he loves me”, and why she can hold Stolas to the promise he made her as a child. Via's line of thinking essentially equates to something along the lines of "I love him, but that's not enough because he doesn't love me.", which is why she can protect Stolas from andrealphus but turns around and basically tells him to fuck off with Blitz right after.

So all of this boils down to one question that I know hass probably been burning in everyone’s mind as the all seeing audience: What does this rift in their relationship mean? 

As always, what this means for our beloved characters isn’t up to us, but I can say that I think that the events of “Sinsmas” have set up building blocks for a great sort of redemption arc for the relationship in future episodes where we see Octavia learning the more complex aspects of her parents relationship and how it all led to the affair that she believes broke up her family, and where Stolas actually gets himself in a healthy enough space mentally and emotionally to have the hard conversations with his daughter so that she isn’t seeing only the best of things. It will absolutely be a hard pill to swallow for everyone involved (moreso for Octavia considering that she no longer has a true support system to guide her through tough things), and I think that it’s a character arc that we may not see all at once, but rather in small increments the way we see Loona’s character development with Blitz, but I think that it will be worth it to see them both put in the work to better themselves and then come back together and build a father/daughter relationship that is based in honesty and fosters honest communication and trust.

As the fandom grows and the storyline advances, I hope that the relationships and characters continue to reach new heights in their development, and with the amazing story-telling we’ve gotten from Vivzie and her team so far, I think that this take will be the tip of the iceberg in what is to come in season 3, and hopefully for more seasons after. Let me know what you think about the father/daughter duos and the peaks and valleys we’re seeing with them as of now.

[purrvaire]

they're so in love im gonna throw up real quick

[starburstmlp]

Love the possible implications of this…

Imagine Blitzø adopting loona and helping her with her new look. Imagine Blitzø taking loona either to the store for hair color or getting her a salon appointment to help her do this after taking her in ❤️❤️❤️

[celtrist]

No idea if they would actually make an interesting dynamic, but boy does Via need a bit more stable parents in her life.

[awallflowerdraws]

i would travel every ring of Hell, just to see if you'll be mine

[gayandbasic]

He wants her in their life too 😭😭😭

[tomboy014]

Can we talk about how, despite this being one of his worst nights, Blitz rushes over to Loona's rescue as soon as he gets her call?

He may not be the best dad, but he cares, he's trying and he'll always be there for his baby girl.

[niiwa-angel]

Because Blitz is the outlier in the Stoliz family, I think that they'd get an apartment built around Stolas, Octavia, and Loona's height and just get a bunch of step stools for him.

The kitchen has three, one for the fridge/freezer, one for the cupboards, and one for the stove. The bathroom has one tucked under the sink. There's one in the entryway for the closet, Blitz and Stolas's room has one for the bed and one in their closet, and there are various miscellaneous ones floating around that he moves as needed.

Regardless of all the assistance tools, that doesn't stop him from climbing counters, shelves, walls, and the other three demons in the apartment to get what he needs. Via's pouring a cup of coffee near the cupboard with the cereal? Why would he pull over a step stool if he can just climb his step daughter? Stolas is putting his scarf on near the door? Blitz is climbing him like a tree to grab his jacket from the hook. Loona, who's been living with this bullshit for 5 years, is the most used to it and just goes with it. He'll climb her and direct her to when he needs to go.

It takes a moment for Octavia to get used to it, Stolas loves it, and Loona is just glad other people are getting climbed.

[nyxofdemons]

this was going to be like a mile long essay but i just realized the most concise way to say it is that "it feels like a retcon that blitz has been so resentful and hostile towards fizz all this time since he was supposed to feel guilty" is simply not a good criticism when we have been shown, time and time again, that blitz's number one defense mechanism when he feels guilty or judged or attacked is to lash out, to deflect and ignore all his responsibility, and to shift the blame to someone else. that's like. his defining character flaw

[theophagie]

Being a stolitz blended family hater *Jesus on the cross.jpeg*

[fizziepopangel]

A Fizziepop Take: Let’s talk about Blitz and Loona’s relationship

I’ve seen a few different reasons around the fandom for disliking Loona as a character, but I’m only going to touch on the biggest one I’ve seen, one being that she’s vulgar and vile toward the man who adopted her, Blitz. Now, maybe its my own fucked up relationship with my father that leads me to this conclusion, but I actually really like the way Loona and Blitz’s relationship is set up and the way it’s progressing slowly. I know I touched on it when I first started the account after seeing a post about how someone hated Loona because of the way she treated Blitz and blah, blah, blah…. But after watching the lost Helluva Boss episode, I actually like Loona and the relationship and I wanna talk about why, so let’s get into it.

I wanna start by saying that while I don’t condone how Loona treats Blitz, I understand why and I think the reasoning behind her behavior toward the imp plays a big role in the relationship. Now, to truly understand why Loona acts the way she does and why her attitude is the way it is toward Blitz, we have to remember how Loona came to be Blitz’s daughter. She was nearly 18 and about to age out of the pound, which is the hellhound version of an extremely fucked up fostercare system, and in the Helluva Boss universe, hellhounds are more of a commodity than a people of hell; used for jobs that require high laborand muscle, this does put hellhounds on the same level as imps, if not lower than the little red creatures. If we break this down, this likely means that Loona grew up in this system, either never being chosen to work or being chosen and brought back on multiple occasions when she was no longer useful to whoever she was adopted by, which would lead to a hoard of issues trusting anyone who signed her out of the pound since she would’ve essentially felt like a library book that would be returned when they were done or bored with it. Coupling that with the fact that in the flashback Blitz has to the first time he sees Loona in the pound, it’s likely that being aggressive wasn’t her nature in the beginning, but rather something she picked up to keep herself safe since we see in the flashback that she wasn’t the original aggressor, the slightly smaller hound was and after Loona’s defense, she reverts to someone who genuinely seems rather terrified of her surroundings…. This likely means that even locked in the cages of the pound, Loona was never truly safe in the one place she was the most connected to, and if she wasn’t safe from the other adoptees in the pound, there’s a good chance that the adults running the pound either abused her as well or just turned a blind eye to the abuse happening within the cages. Coming from a background like that and living that way would mean that Loona likely never truly learned to control her emotions outside of turning everything into something manageable (like rage), and never truly learned to foster trust since a place like that wouldn’t breed people she could foster trust with on many occasions.

Blitz, while being the founder of a murder for hire group and an assassin himself, genuinely embodies the phrase “be who you would have needed when you were a kid”. From what we know about his childhood so far, he wasn’t valued by his father and didn’t seem to get much praise from those around him at all. We see on multiple occasions that Blitz is rather softhearted when it comes to the people he considers himself close to. He does what he can to protect them, he’s affectionate, and he values what they think of him…. It makes sense that the imp saw Loona in the pound and immediately wanted to take her away from the horrorshow he saw and offer her the care and protection he feels she (and likely himself) never got in younger years. I think that’s what causes the man to be so much more lenient with her than most people think she deserves.

Now, because Loona grew up in a place that taught her that trust wasn’t something you could put in anyone other than yourself and only fostered aggression and fear in her, I don’t think she actually understood how to be a part of a loving home, which is what Blitz does his best to provide her. I mean if you think about it, the little red creature takes her in at 17, creates an abuse free space, most likely gives her food, clothes, even gives up his bedroom for her so she has a safe, private place to sleep, and then goes a step further and gives her a job so that she’d still have a way to support herself if she chose to leave home when she legally became an adult. Now, if you think about this from the perspective of someone who has nothing and has never had anything like this, it sounds amazing; almost too good to be true….. Most times, people say that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is… so Loona has likely spent most of her time with Blitz just waiting for the other shoe to drop…. And if you think of it that way, from her perspective, while everything that Blitz has given her is amazing, it must also be terrifying since suddenly she had so much more to lose if she let herself get attached to him and everything he’s given her and he were to suddenly abandon her for any reason.

I know, anyone watching the show can easily tell that Blitz does his best to be a good father figure to Loona, even when he’s met with resistance and sarcasm or downright physical violence on her end. We all know he would never purposely do anything to hurt her in any way, and I think Loona knows that too on some level, but everything she has hinges on Blitz wanting her around. Her home, her job, and up until she met Vortex and was introduced to his friends and other hellhounds at the party, her only ‘friends’ were Blitz’s employees so at any given moment, Blitz could have taken pretty much everything from her if he wanted to. If you’re attached to someone and they up and leave, effectively changing your entire life in the way Blitz could have done to Loona, it’s going to hurt and even just the thought can be anxiety-inducing…. I think that’s what Loona holds on to; that feeling of ‘I can’t get too attached’ since she probably knows first hand how badly it would hurt to have the rug pulled out from under her like that.

Looking at things that way, I think it makes sense why Loona is so verbally and physically violent with her adoptive father…. And it makes sense why Blitz puts up with anything she throws at him (literally). The man has gone out of his way to show Loona that he plans to stick around as long as it is physically possible for him, and I don’t think anything short of death could make him change that way of thinking.

Now, I know Loona is an adult now and she should definitely work on controlling herself and getting past everything holding her in that mentality, but I think she actually is healing in her own, slow way. You can see it when she almost calls Blitz dad and when she talks to Octavia about Stolas. Loona talking to Octavia about the importance of a father just putting in effort when it’s not easy to had just as much to do with her and Blitz’s as it had to do with Stolas and Octavia’s in that moment and I honestly think that was a big moment for her because despite there not being any big changes between her and Blitz, I think that acknowledging the struggles of the relationship and everything around it went a long way in her opening that wound in a way that meant it maybe healing properly from it, even if she didn’t outright acknowledge it. I think that’s partly what opened the gate for the scenes we see in the lost episode that was released the other day. Loona’s never let herself call Blitz her dad out loud, but at Bee’s she not only calls him her dad, but shouts it to a crowd of people…. And even as an audience, we can see how much that meant to Blitz, especially after the night he had at Ozzie’s prior. Despite being a small thing, I think we actually saw a huge win for Blitz in that moment as well as a massive breakthrough for Loona. And I think that breakthrough for Loona continues as we watch her genuinely care for Blitz in a softer way, similar to the way she briefly looked after Octavia back in “Seeing Stars”, even gently putting the drunk man to bed and promising him that even if she was alone there, the man wouldn’t spend the rest of his life alone. Does Loona know exactly what she’s promised? Maybe…. Maybe she only agreed to be comforting in that moment since she knew he needed it, but either way, both of those options are big for her in their own ways; like big enough that we might actually see a bigger shift in their dynamic to a healthier father/daughter place.

Do I think things can just get better now that we have a bit of new context involving Blitz’s relationship with his daughter? No. I think we’ll see a lot more scenes with softer interactions between the two as Loona continues to heal and Blitz continues to try to be a good father to her, like the ones we see in “Western Energy”, but I think it’ll continue to happen on the slower end of the spectrum. But the healing and progress is something I love for both of them and cannot wait to see more of as the show goes on. But remember, that’s just a Fizziepop thought on this complex relationship.

[nightvale359]

Okay okay but here me out

If we just get rid of Stolas or make him a random character that does cool magic while being gay and NOT in love with another main character (Blitz).

Then AroAllo Blitz CAN STILL WIN !!!!

[helluvahotmess]

thinking about how moxxie took a liking to blitz when he mentioned his daughter. like no matter how annoying and frustrating blitz can be at times he loves his kid

[uselessalexis165]

some demons with daddy issues 👿

[pyrokineticqueen]

People need to remember that "QUEEN BEE" was not meant to be a jaw-dropping finale but rather a fun way for the crew to celebrate completing their first season.

[goodcartoondadshowdown]

Lio Oak vs. Blitzø