#bisexual john

[inevitably-johnlocked]

Heyyy!!

How are you doing?

I just came across one of your posts from last year talking about John's sexuality and saw that you also think he had a thing for Lestrade - AND THANK GOD I'M NOT ALONE IN THIS - could you elaborate a little more about these two? I'd love to read your views on them.

Thanks in advance💚💚

(referencing this post)

Hey Lovely!

Oh gosh it's been so long since I've thought about this that I genuinely don't remember my initial readings when I made that statement, but I do feel that it holds some truth to it. I'll try my best to organize my thoughts. It's been a long time since I've rewatched all the series so I'm just working on my memory here, so my apologies for any inaccuracies and inconsistencies I may make.

Okay, so my read on John is that I think at the beginning of the series he IS aware that he is bisexual, but because of his past he has quite a bit of internalized homophobia with his own attraction to men. It's something he struggles with, especially since he seems to form stronger romantic bonds with men than women. But because of his internalized homophobia, John "chooses" to "front-face" with a hetero relationship, no matter how miserable or disinterested he clearly is in in them.

But, John's also very lonely when we first meet him, and John clearly has A Type™, and that type leans more towards his attraction to men: authority figures or posh and pretty. Basically, men he can look-at-but-not-touch (Sholto, Lestrade, Sherlock), because he can then claim plausible deniability and, in a way, in confirms his internalized biases about himself.

So, in ASiP, I felt that John was flirting a lot with Lestrade when they first met. Just sort of putting out feelers. I think it's safe to say that John... was probably pretty "open to anything" during his service, and in turn I think he learned how to get a read on men he was interested in without actually outing himself directly. And then as the series progresses, we see John seeming to have a friendly relationship with Lestrade, the kind that makes Sherlock a bit jeally (see THoB, holy shit the vitriol he spouted when John called him by his first name, I'm sorry but that was PURE jealousy).

Lestrade then continues to try to keep in touch with John during MHR / the Hiatus... I think it's safe to infer that Lestrade cares a lot for John and feels that it's his duty to make sure he's alright. And then throughout S3 and S4, especially TSo3, they're clearly friends, and I personally believe that by this point, Lestrade knows that John's bisexual and had romantic feelings for Sherlock, but knows it's not his place to force them together. I think TSo3 is a "JUST DONE" Lestrade because – remember – he helped Sherlock write his vows and what we see on screen is WHAT LESTRADE TOLD SHERLOCK TO SAY. So like... I'm sorry but that feels like he's tired of them dancing around each other, and here dumbfuck idiots, I'm going to make sure Sherlock makes it clear to John that the feeling is mutual LOL.

So yeah, I think the best man speech was Lestrade's way of being fed up with their mooning over each other, LOL.

And S4, honestly, I don't remember enough to even put too much thought into it. S4, who he? LOL.

I'm sure I'll have additional thoughts after I've queued and posted this, so I'll add them if I do. I'd love to know your thoughts too, though! Please share! It's nice knowing I wasn't alone in this belief LOL.

[silliestofg33sevik]

Happy pride month from the gay trans fish and his bisexual trans boyfriend

And happy pride to lesbians and to Irene and her gf marta

[cupidford]

Blue Plaques by JRow

Johnlock Love Letters #2324

John’s engagement is off, and he is back at the place he feels most at home — 221B Baker Street. In the process of solving a mystery, will John accidentally reveal a secret of his own? Asexual Sherlock.

[beatleshalloween]

After a night at Ringo's house, George is feeling better but not fully recovered physically. It's now time to confront John for what he did to George

This story is from the series " Rippling Consequences."

[vintagesapphics]

women kissing at the 1990 National Bisexual Conference in San Francisco, CA

[akascow]

i have this picture as my current desktop screen so everytime i close my laptop i say ‘game over’ and slam it shut

[rusticfurnace]

RECKLESS CHAINS AU//

there was just supposed to be ONE (1) fanart of umiko's shaved soap but then it spiraled into an AU inspired by it. HELPPP

[minionwater]

happy pride

[ghouljams]

Soap who's so confused why the birds he likes never like him back and no one on the 141 can figure it out either until Johnny is scrolling through the Instagram of his latest crush and Gaz looks over his shoulder to see this gorgeous muscular butch woman. Buzz cut, hairy, tattoos and that essential carabiner of keys on her belt... Yeah... Gaz is pretty sure he knows why Soap isn't getting any bites from his bonnies.

[rottedsoulx]

I cant remember if I posted this yet but a doodle i did over 6 months ago i think.

[inevitably-johnlocked]

I've seen a couple of posts from you and some other people that John might be homoromantic bi.

Is it because he's only went out with women in canon for sex and that he's had romantic feelings for Sherlock (and possibly Sholto in the past)?

I'm curious.

(He doesn't seem to be in love with Mary that much either.)

Hey Nonny!

Ah, it's a popular interpretation because of that, exactly. I personally read him that way, because, in BBCS at least, he fails spectacularly at forming any believable relationships with women (and don't get me started on Mary, LOL. I'm sorry, but I STRONGLY believe she trapped him with a fake baby – I think John only went with the marriage because he was pissed off at Sherlock for lying to him) but seems to form REALLY strong attachments to men in authoritative (in his eyes) positions. And yes I also mean Lestrade here too. You cannot tell me that John did put out his feelers for Lestrade when they first met, LOL. BUT John fell RIDICULOUSLY hard for Sherlock, and through context clues and the mirroring of Sholto-to-Sherlock, that John didn't fall hard for Sholto too. There's clues in the episode that their falling out happened after Sholto's accident.

I mean... John GRIEVED for Sherlock like a widower. He was "just getting over" Sherlock when he met Mary (who I think was a plant to get Sherlock to come back, by the way). That was THREE YEARS. John "grieved" for Mary for like... a couple months maybe?? Yeah, he didn't give two flying figs about her, sorry. EVEN IN CANON, Mary is RARELY mentioned and is speculated to have been a beard to keep ACD from suffering the same fate as his friend Wilde [THIS LINK ALSO].

This is a topic I love talking about because sexuality is so interesting to me, given my constant re-discovering of my own self. AND because the characters in the show grew up in the same period I did (early 80's and 90's, so Cusp Gen-Xers/Millennials), it makes SO much sense to me that a lot of John's anger and trust issues come from internalized homophobia and misogyny, and he really didn't open up until he became close to men in his life that he respected and admired and treated him with the in-kind respect and kindness. And I just really relate to them so much... it's probably why this show resonated with me so hard and absolutely why my scary journey of Sudden Realization™ happened hahah.

I genuinely believe that John wants to form a fulfilling relationship, but for him, his internal struggle is that he just CANNOT love women no matter how hard he tries – this is a lot of why people joke that John's a horn-dog... he doesn't care who gets his dick wet, just that he gets it. But at the end of the day, I think his internalized issues keep him from accepting that he LOVES Sherlock fiercely, and it's WHY he struggled so hard with Sherlock's death. I mean, after a certain point he gave up dating because Sherlock GAVE him everything he truly wanted. The women in his life were just to get the sex he wasn't getting from Sherlock, LOL. There's also a REALLY old speculation within the fandom that the trip to New Zealand that John took with Sarah went bad because he called out Sherlock's name during sex... soooo yeah.

Anyway, check out these meta from people who are on the Bi spectrum that can dissect John better than me. I recommend the MOST this thread about Harry and John possibly being twins, and how that is relevant to her being a mirror for John in BBCS. People have commented on it with anecdotes from other bi people about their experience with biphobia in the queer community and in the 80s and 90s, and how in this day and age people seem to forget that any smattering of being gay was met with disdain.

Meta Links to Prove John’s Bisexuality

Meta Links to Sexuality posts for the characters

Closeted John: Growing Up in a Homophobic 80’s/90’s (Not Mine)

is it any wonder John is closeted (Not Mine)

The Way John Looks at Sholto (John’s Bisexuality)

John’s Past and his Bisexuality

So Why Is John Gay when He Says He’s Not? (Irene Clap-Back)

Where Does “Three Continents” Thing Come From?

John’s Attracted but In Denial?

Did Sherlock Know John was Bi?

John Could’ve Been A Real Representation of Bi People

John’s Cheating

AND let's also not forget John's a military man, and while I'm not 100 on how the British military functions, I feel like they also had a "don't ask, don't tell" policy like the American and Canadian militaries did pre-2000's. So. Yeah. AND with the assumption John's parents were homophobic with context clues via Harry and the lack of his entire family from his wedding, a lot of Bi people in the 80's and 90's just "chose to be straight" to avoid being eviscerated. It's a horrific reality that still exists today, sadly.

I love my little bi-disaster John, and you can pry that headcanon from my cold, dead body, LOL.

[tremendously-crazy]

sometimes, i forget that people ship sherlock holmes with characters other than watson. genuinely startles me

[cupidford]

Matchmaking for Solitary Animals by ArwaMachine

Johnlock Love Letters #2319

Following Sherlock’s return from the dead, he's a bit more keen on entertaining gentlemen callers, a fact that seems to make John irrationally angry. Intent on proving that he’s not a total dick, John makes it his mission to find Sherlock a boyfriend.

[beatleshalloween]

Paul is hiding his feet and it's a mystery why.

Notes:

You will best understand the story ending if you read "Silent All These Years".

Beatles Halloween challenge

Day 4: mystery

[glow-worms-are-believers]

A little of that who-shot-John (dp x dc)

Constantine was nursing a nice Scotch Whiskey as he sat in his new favourite pub, when walked in a very familiar face. Red hair, stunning violet eyes, and pink lips that were just begging to be kissed. 

Jasmine, Constantine remembered her name belatedly. They’d had a fling while he’d been on a case in the states and the woman had been half the reason Constantine had had any fond memories of the trip coming back. 

What were the odds of them meeting back again on his side of the pond? Fate was clearly at play here, nudging him back onto the beautiful woman’s path. 

Constantine downed his drink and turned towards Jasmine, as he raised his hand to wave her over, when the door opened again and in walked another very familiar face.

Crystal eyes and soft black hair, the man who walked in had Constantine nearly choking on his spit. Because that was Daniel, ie the other half of the good memories from the states.

“Fuck,” Constantine mumbled under his breath as he turned away from the two. What the hell were these two doing here together!

As he tried to make himself look smaller, he tried to obscure his face with his empty glass, while his mind whirled for a plan to get out of there and fast.

“John!” Came Jasmine’s voice, and Constantine closed his eyes, pained, before he steadied himself and fixed a smile on his face as he turned around. He could still salvage this. He could.

“Jasmine!” He said back as if he’d just recognized her, as she approached him. Daniel hadn’t seen him yet, but by the curious glance he was sending Jasmine, that wouldn’t hold true for long. “What are you doing here?”

“Me and my baby brother are on a vacation to celebrate my getting my diploma,” she said with a brilliant smile.

Constantine could feel a pit form in his stomach. “Baby brother?” He repeated weakly.

“Oh, let me introduce you,” she said before turning back. “Danny!”

Constantine could feel his battered soul withering away as he watched Daniel make his way over to them. 

“Johnny!” Daniel exclaimed joyfully. “Is that you? What are the odds!”

“Haha, yeah, those are some crazy odds,” Constantine said through his gritted teeth.

Jasmine turned towards her brother - her baby brother! - with a confused little frown on her face, even as she kept her smile. “You know John?”

“Boy do I,” Daniel said with a sly wink in Constantine’s direction that had the man wishing he could teleport.

Constantine laughed weakly as he tried desperately to figure out how to steer the conversation elsewhere, but it was too late.

“Oh?” Jasmine let out, still confused, and it was like watching a car accident in slow motion. “When did you meet?”

“Last summer,” Daniel said, “I told you about him, remember?”

“No,” Jasmine said dubiously. “The only guy you told me about was-“

Her head turned so fast, Constantine could almost hear the crack.

“John,” she started calmly. “Tell me this isn’t what I think it is.”

“Depends what you think it is?” Constantine tried for relaxed and knew he had missed by a mile.

“Jazz?” Daniel said, as he frowned confusedly.

“He’s the guy I told you about.”

Daniel’s eyes widened before narrowing to slits as he fixed his gaze on the magician.

“John, would you care to explain?” Jasmine asked, icily calm. 

Had Daniel’s teeth always been this pointy? 

Constantine gulped.  “Not really, no.”

Jasmine's eyes flashed a neon green.

“That,” Jasmine growled, “is the wrong answer.”

[savagegood]

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