#biphobes fuck off

[mayapapaya33]

People who act like Only Murders in the Building isn't Queer anymore because either their old man yaoi ship didn't happen or because Mabel isn't currently dating a woman need to get over themselves immediately. Bi people are still Bi when they're in a "straight passing" relationship. And yes, Oliver and Charles would make an adorable couple, but Oliver and Loretta are the sweetest couple ever and you're depriving yourself of enjoying a wonderful storyline for no reason. (And if rep is what you're after, how about supporting the rep that is older women getting quality roles, let alone quality ROMANTIC roles, because Hollywood treats women over the age of 35 like garbage and this relationship is like seeing a unicorn in the wild lmfao).

Mabel and Alice dated. That's a thing that happened. Pretending it didn't or doesn't count so you can be performatively mad at the show for no reason is literally Bi phobia, stop it.

Mabel has a new love interest every season! How cool is that? That never happens for Women! Unless they're the joke "slut character" that the show doesn't really respect. But this show does respect Mabel and treats it as a normal, unremarkable, unremarked upon amount of dating for a young woman. Usually that's a "man thing" like James Bond and his Bond Girls who come and go through each storyline. How rad is it that we get these great storylines for female characters now?

Sazz Pataki (pretty sure she's a lesbian but definitely some flavor of queer) is Charles' oldest friend and stunt double and has dated TWO of his girlfriend's lmfao. Jan Bellows is queer, and Cookie is also queer! Howard (the cat guy) and his boyfriend Johnathan are right there and so are Detective Donna Williams and her wife Kiara and son Keith.

Not to mention the tragedy of whatever Uma and Bunny were to each other because it was definitely something. (Ok maybe that one is just my shipper goggles at work but tell me you don't see it I dare you).

Honorable mention to Charles' kinda daughter Lucy who might be thinking about various pronouns aka also casual Queer rep.

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I also want to talk about the weird edge to some of the commentary about Oliver and even Martin Short as a real person. If you think about it, some of it is both weirdly homophobic and also inadvertently trying to press toxic masculinity standards onto straight men. I'm referring to the "Wow I can't believe that Martin is straight! There's NO WAY that man is straight! There's no straight explanation for that!" kind of things. Or the "Oliver dating Loretta is so unrealistic, that is a gay man right there! The show is ruined!" people. I get the jokes about how flamboyant Oliver is and a lot of them are fun, but some of them really do end up sounding like the same tired tropes of "emotional flamboyant man likes theater = gay and woman likes sports and cars and flannel = lesbian, uugg uugg."

As for the comments about Martin, look, his chemistry with Steve is off the charts, I get it, but they've been best friends for a thousand years and frankly if your friendship doesn't look a little gay from the outside, is it even really a friendship? lol. Martin Short is a real human being who was with a woman he clearly adored for 36 years, his wife Nancy Dolman, until she died of cancer. He's a confident and charming performer who's comfortable with himself.

I enjoy viewing the character of Oliver through a queer lens, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he at least did some experimenting in the 70's. (He mentioned orgies at some point, are you telling me he was the ONLY guy at the orgies? Come on Oliver!) I'd enjoy it if they explored some element of queerness to the character on the show and I wouldn't be that surprised if they did eventually do that. But there's a difference between that and a forceful attitude of; THERE IS NO WAY A MAN WHO BEHAVES LIKE THAT IS STRAIGHT!!! END OF STORY!!!

First of all, it's just not true. Lots of straight men in the performing arts (or just life in general) are incredibly flamboyant and comfortable with both themselves and things traditionally seen as "queer" and aren't afraid to express themselves beyond the narrow box traditional masculine values would limit them too. Circling back to my earlier points of old man yaoi and biphobia, just because your specific ship didn't happen on the show, it doesn't automatically make the character NOT queer. Again, Bi/Pan people exist. Oliver being in a relationship with Loretta doesn't automatically make him straight, why do I have to explain this on the queer people website?

Also Oliver has two hands, and this is what fanfiction is for. The fact that there aren't a ton of Oliver/Loretta/Charles fics on AO3 is astonishing to me.

[carmillas-vampiric-rage]

sapphic bisexuals only. non-bisexuals dni!!

one thing that kinda just- idk makes me insecure ab expressing my bisexuality through fictional characters (that don't have canon sexualities) is that there's this ease within sapphic circles to immediately invalidate it.

i don't feel comfortable headcanoning a beautiful fictional woman as bisexual-or even just saying she IS bisexual bc look at her bc I'll most likely get attacked and invalidated and told "bro she's def a lesbian" which- OBVIOUSLY is valid as fuck and i love seeing lesbian fictional characters both canon or otherwise- it just feels like sapphic bisexuals aren't viewed as valid as much as lesbians in fiction (in sapphic circles).

it's like they aren't gay or sapphic enough. some even just say that blatantly. it's discouraging as a sapphic bisexual. i love seeing lesbians talk about their fave non canon lesbians, it just feels like I can't do the same for non canon bisexual sapphics. it's not always said, but it's how bisexual sapphics are rarely part of the conversations in sapphic circles. we don't have the same ability to just unabashedly scream about our favorites bisexual sapphic who -again- doesn't have a canon sexuality.

it feels like i have to walk on eggshells and tell people "don't worry guys, I'm not actually saying she's a bisexual sapphic..." for fear of people jumping down my throat.

idk if this makes much sense- im just repeating the same thing in different ways lol- but i just needed to get it off my chest.

characters like leblanc from lol and claudia from iwtv are beautifully headcanoned as lesbians, i just hope i can also headcanon them as bisexuals. 🩷💜🩵

sapphic bisexuals please repost with your favorite non-canon sapphic bisexual!!!! i wanna see them!!!

here are mine!!!! 🩷💜🩵

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if you're a biphobe just waiting to comment some asinine shit- please reevaluate why you're such a fucking loser ✨

[thebisexualwreckoning]

"average bisexual cheats on their partners within every monogamous relationship" factoid actually just a statistical error. average bisexual is just like every other sexual identity and not more likely than a straight or gay person to cheat on their partner within a monogamous relationship. Lord Byron, who lives in victorian* england & cheats on 10,000 partners each day, is an outlier adn should not have been counted

*edit: Been made aware that lord byron actually lived in regency england. so sorry for my fuckup. im going to bed

[meerawrites]

No one:

Still no one:

@marquis-de-sade-official logging on this hell site every day(and heartbreaking the worst person you know is correct and made a valid point):

[xkittzkornerx]

"bi men are always seen with other men so clearly they're actually gay!"

so close! <3 bi men are actually frequently treated like shit by cishet women. :O even the ones who claim to be ‘progressive' are often biphobic, and find it acceptable as 'diet homophobia,’ whether subconsciously or not.

[neurotypicalabusesurvivor]

Women who are attracted to only women in the 70s: we should have are own community

Women who are attracted to both men and women in the 70: cool so you are going to make your own separate community.

Women who are attracted to only women in the 70s: 😂😂😂 (kick bi and pan women out of the lesbian community)

Women who are attracted to both men and women in the 70: cool I am going to go by bi lesbians to describe my live experiences.

"lesbians" in 2024: OMG the concept of bi-lesbian is lesbophobic because I am incapable of doing a Google search on the history of the term.

[cilil]

🩷💜💙HAPPY BISEXUALITY DAY💙💜🩷

Especially to Melkor, the OG bisaster with zero game

Out or not, know that this fellow bi here is proud of you and that you're loved!

[willalove75]

You bisexuals wonder why lesbians and gay men don’t accept people like you into our spaces. There’s a reason why most gay men only use bi men for sex (and aren’t open to actually dating bi men) while most lesbians only date lesbians. We see you bi people for the frauds you are. The song Good Luck Babe perfectly describes our feelings towards your kind, sweetie.

BRO, AGAIN WITH THIS SHIT?

Because I truly don't have the mental energy to rip you a completely new asshole today, I'll leave my last response to this shit for you to read here.

But just to address this incredibly stupid fucking claim, I don't wonder why lesbians and gay men don't accept "people like me" into their spaces, because they fucking do.

I'm so sorry you're so incredibly insecure with yourself, and that you're probably mad that some bi person you dated left you for the opposite gender because you're a horribly toxic person and probably suck to be around, but please don't show up in my inbox and make that shit my problem.

I got an amazing amount of support from the LGBTQ+ community last time this shit came into my inbox, and it's quite clear to me that they don't claim you. Bi people are not the issue here, YOU are the issue. And as someone who identifies as the B in LGBTQ+, you're a fucking embarrassment to the community.

And also, from my understanding (I don't know the song incredibly well, in all fairness) but the song Good Luck Babe is about two women who have feelings for one another and the other woman can't accept her feelings/is in denial, not whatever the fuck it is you're insinuating. It's okay though, media literacy is hard. But lets not make up stupid shit just to try and prove a point that's not even real, darling.

Bisexual people aren't frauds, it's people like you who think its okay to tear down others within their own community that are. Go to fucking therapy, get off Tumblr, touch some grass and for the love of god figure your shit out because I'm sure you got a nice little dopamine/serotonin rush from hitting "send" on this ask, but it's truly fucking sad.

I am a bisexual woman, I am proud to be one, and if you think bi people are an issue and you aren't, then fuck you.

Also - kinda weird that I got that first ask on 2/25 of last year, it's almost like you get a fucking reminder for yourself for this and honestly, it'd be cool if you put that energy into something that's actually productive. Like, idk, therapy.

[thediamondarcher]

"saying bi panic is an excuse to justify being attracted to the opposite sex and trying to make it gay"

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

[jacquiarno]

The Viper class gives off bisexual vibes, especially with these crescent moon weapons. 🩷💜💙

[perfect-bi-paradise]

Hey everyone, I'd like to take a moment to talk about a somewhat misunderstood bisexual symbol. This symbol consists of four symbols linked together; these are the signs for female, infinity, intersex, and male. Now what makes this symbol misunderstood to the point many bisexuals reject it's use is that they see the gendered male and female symbols and believe it only represents attraction to only two genders, a notion the bisexual community has rejected about bisexuality itself. What many people fail to realize is the infinity symbol ♾ part between them and what that represents. The infinity symbol is there to represent the gender spectrum and bisexualities natural fluidity, meaning that bisexuality links both binary sexes and all genders! In viewing infinity as an endless bridging between both sex and gender which is where the intersex symbol comes in since bisexuality was not only a term for a persons sexuality, but was also at one point used to describe a person who is intersex. This was one of the reasons "Hearts Not parts" was originally founded as a bisexual term and beautifully shows in-between female and male there are infinitely more genders and possibilities and Bisexuality in regards to not being limited by sex or gender automatically recognizes and includes them all.

[whereserpentswalk]

oh litle baba i'm so sorry these people have convinced you youre a boy. you shouldn't feel ashamed of being a masc dyke. please don't cut off your breasts or take mutating chemicals, you dont have to pretend to be a boy to like girls or be masc. you would probably feel better if you got a chance to have s*x with another lesbian. wouldn't you like to have a fem girl touching you, and touching your breasts and loving you like a woman. i would love you and pet you and not incoruge you to be something your not

please dont mutalite yourself. there's are girls out there who will love you as a girl

Ah yes, the queer feminist tradition of (checks notes) corrective rape.

Outside of the genders this sounds no different to what a bigoted cishet man would say after a queer person he lusted. You're repeating the exact same talking points that the people who want to rape YOU. The people who you promote will not spare you.

[alyceinwonderland777]

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[acid-smoke]

Hi, this is not how being bi works. Bi people don’t stop being bi just because they marry someone. Bis dont “pick a side”

If you think that this is how being bisexual works then please leave.

[satoko567]

Regarding an explicitly biphobic/implicitly queerphobic mess of a Dear Abby column

@znj

Responding in a new post because I couldn't fit a thoughtful response to this into the character limit for a tumblr comment But this is unfortunately a fairly measured response from the parents as far as baby boomer/gen x parental responses to this sort of thing go in my experience. Obviously, asking the daughter to not bring her same sex partners around is homophobic and Not Good, but they are as far as I can tell explicitly acknowledging her sexuality rather than challenging it, and are also not blaming her for the broken engagement, and are writing out of concern for her because of how her ex-fiance treated her and how her partners after that treated her. The also seem to consider her problems with her same sex partners as an extension of a pattern that also included how her opposite sex-fiance treated her. I also don't think that they're blaming her daughter for what they see as bad relationships but are rather concerned for her wellbeing. A proper response from a columnist would make it clear that the string of unfortunate relationships has nothing to do with her sexuality, highlighting the connection/thread between the biphobic opposite sex ex-fiance who mistreated her and her partners after that, would suggest that the issue most likely has to do with her daughter's sense of self-esteem and self-worth, and that they should both do their best to support her and try to encourage her to seek proper professional counseling to try to change that perspective. Getting into and staying in toxic relationships because of a lack of self-worth is both a problem I have had myself and have known many other women who have had (and I am sure men have this problem too). Instead the columnist opens with bisexual erasure and then tells her to seek lgbt-specific counseling for an issue that is irrelevant to her sexuality. I would say that the column is not only one of the worst messes I have ever seen come out of dear abbie relative to the current year but actively worse than the letter despite the columnist attempting to take a smug lib position wrt LGBT.

[mrentrapta]

If you are wondering if you're bisexual or not the simple way to figure it out is to decide if you actually want to date the opposite gender, at all.

Especially with women bcs some of yall are just lesbians who like non binary or gender weird mfs and that's genuinely fine bro .

Also, being attracted to studs or mascs and butches or whatever doesn't make you straight or attracted to men the same way a man liking a masc girl doesn't male them gay or attracted to men . You just like masculinity and again TOTALLY fine.

As much as I would like to say something about men on this post I lwk I haven't met a bisexual man other than my other hb and he's GENUINELY into both genders, in a real way . This man is a simp for men and women, so not too much on yall ig.

Back to the point . I'm going to be real if you, as a single person, end up with a person of the opposite gender would you be happy or would you be disappointed it isn't a person of the same gender. And that's your answer

it depends, tho bcs ik I would be disappointed (bcs I am literally in love with my ex, ) but at the same time a man with a hella nyash and a happy trail could genuinely ruin my life and I would be happy about it so not to much 😋

Sooo basically..... idk sexaulity is hard stay woke or whatever