#big red and antoine

[easthighseblos]

after u watch s4,

what are your thoughts on the couples?

thanks for the ask!!!

okay, so starting with seblos of course, i love them and i will always love and defend them no matter what 😂 do i think parts of the storyline were a lil ooc?? yes

was it still overall cute and adorable in the end regardless?? also yes, and i just had so much fun watching the whole thing and all their interactions

i did love how the fighting scenes got to show off a different side to their characters as well, sassy seb, sad carlos and everything in between

the duet was also perfect and was everything i thought it would be, i have had it on repeat ever since i finished the season, joe and frankie have the most incredible voices

the side storylines of seb's coming out to his dad and carlos with his body image issues made me cry a lot and were so perfectly done by both joe and frankie, we are very lucky to have these 2 portray these incredible characters, i could ramble for days about them 😂

madlyn were perfect, the accuracy of the awkwardness of being a queer woman and liking your friends but not being sure if you should go for it or not

i loved ash with big red but felt it was definitely time for her to move on with maddox and their song was incredible, not to mention how beautiful their first kiss was

juj and saylor have such good chemistry as well, which just made everything so much more real

jetney were also very adorable and i feel like they have such a good base dynamic as a couple

they didn't have much overt interactions but every interaction they did have was very cute

jennzara getting together at the end was perfect

rickys dad was fully the wrong person for her 😂 and in the words of ej, FINALLY

now i will admit, i was always portwell over rina, so i was very skeptical how much i would enjoy the rina heavy parts of the season, but sofia is absolutely incredible and her and josh's voices in all their duets sounded incredible

and i did tear up at their rain kiss scene because, come on, who doesn't love a good rain kiss scene 😂

and special shoutout to big red and antoine being the shock couple of the season right at the end there 😂 i love that for them

[skwistokwarrior]

bitters has dyed hair headcanon but in the way that nobody knows where the fuck this kid is getting all this hair dye from in the middle of a war. where is it coming from? is he making it? did he find it? when does he even have the time to do? how does no one know?

[witchymoonart]

triple date :>

[casmick-consequences]

[[ SPOILER ALERT FOR EPISODE 8 ]]

OUT OF ALL THINGS ON MY BINGO LIST FOR SEASON 4,,, THIS WASN'T EVEN NOMINATED

[daveys-sister]

okay, rewatching all the Antoine scenes after the finale makes all of them so much fucking funnier, because, like, did Lily know and was entertaining his method acting, and also, like, the fact that this boy was clearly trying so hard to make Big Red fall in love with him? Like, "Big Red! You were also there!" He was like NOTICE ME NOTICE ME NOTICE ME and clearly read one too many enemies to lovers fanfics. I don't know, it's just so much funnier. Also, were his parents just like, okay, sure, pretend to be a French idiot, like, what is his family life like?

[keeponkippenon]

"Antoine's" Confession - s4 ep8 "Born to Be Brave"

Love this scene ngl. I wasn't even surprised that he wasn't actually French, or that he was into Big Red from the start. More so that they actually went this route, and brought Andrew back for it lmao.

Redtoine has been a goofy ship of mine since s2, and I'm happy it's real now! 🎉

[fictionbish]

Big Red being a simp for Antoine.

[theoneandonlycowboyofthesea]

actually idc I’m fucking pissed about redlyn breaking up just so they could end up in same sex relationships as a bi person I LOVED seeing these two realize that they’re bi but they loved each other and were in a m/f relationship and they just immediately stripped that away again and it just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth

[blues-valentine]

Big Red/Antoine technically being an endgame ship too is so...

That was hilarious!

I give them their 10s for that one!

[sapphosclown]

UM BY THE WAY????

ANTOINE COMING BACK!???

the second i saw that mf and red noticed him i clocked them on fucking sight but THEN??? I WAS RIGHT???? THIS SHOW IS SO FUCKING INSANE

[pulaasul]

High School Musical The Musical The Series.

Damn the title has a lot of words, redundant words lol. It may even rival some Light Novel Titles like "Is it Wrong to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon" or "That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime" or "My Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom"

Anyway, long titles aside, i've got some thoughts about the TV series spin off of the High School Musical Movies, mostly about how they handled LGBT romances.

Why did they need the whole cheating angle for Big Red and Ashlyn for them to get with their endgame partners Antoine and Maddox respectively? It really ruined a lot of characters for that decision.

You'd think any of the main four of Gina, Ricky, Nini, and EJ would have the cheating as part of their storyline, they toed the line but it never really went there... I think.

The cheating storyline for Big Red and Ashlyn really ruined the both of them as characters, not to mention Seb and Carlos too.

[talknerdytome18]

𝐇𝐒𝐌𝐓𝐌𝐓𝐒 𝐚𝐬 𝐓𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐬 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬

Best TV show ever (Real). Literally need to rewatch it because it's so good!

Gina Porter as Rapunzel: She is such a Rapunzel. Gina has such a heart of gold and is so fiercely loyal to those around her. Also, imagine her singing The Girl Who Has Everything??? Omg??? This is her role.

Ricky Bowen as Eugene FitzHerbert: Ricky is such a Eugene. He's hilarious, charming, wins over everyone's hearts, and is such a supportive boyfriend like Eugene is to Rapunzel. Also, the chemistry between him and Gina would be INSANE.

Ashlyn Caswell as Cassandra: Yes, this may seem like an unexpected choice, but I think Ashlyn would be incredible as Cassandra. She can be snarky, witty and sarcastic on the outside, but deeply cares about the ones she loves on the inside. The bickering between her and Ricky would kill me too.

Seb Matthew-Smith as Varian: LITERALLY THE MOST PRECIOUS CHARACTERS IN THE WORLD. Seb is such a Varian and I am not just saying this because Varian was voiced by Jeremy Jordan... who also originated Jack Kelly in Newsies, but Seb would nail the misunderstood antagonist who redeems himself in S3. IMAGINE HIM SINGING LET ME MAKE YOU PROUD? NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE WITH ASHLYN? READY AS I'LL EVER BE? TRUST ME ON THIS, OKAY?

Jet as Lance Strongbow: Lance was hard to cast but I ultimately went with Jet. This is because just like Lance, Jet did come off as arrogant at first but once his walls were torn down, he was easygoing and a true softie at heart. Also, the bond between him and Ricky would be immaculate.

Mr. Mazzara and Miss Jenn as King Frederic and Queen Adrianna: The true parents of HSMTMTS. These two just care about their wildcat children deeply, just like how Adrianna and Frederic care about Rapunzel.

Emmy and Alex as Keira (Angry) and Catalina (Red): The youngest on HSMTMTS will be playing the children on TTS. Their bond would just be so pure just like how they played Young Elsa and Young Anna in Frozen.

Lily as Zhan Tiri: Do I even need to explain? DO I EVEN NEED TO EXPLAIN? LILY IS ZHAN TIRI PERIOD.

Antoine/Andy as Andrew: Shady boys who appear charming at first but are actually deceitful and have ulterior intentions. Listen, I know that Antoine/Andy is now "redeemed", but he's playing Andrew no matter what.

EJ Caswell as The Captain of the Guards: Beefing with Ricky just like how the Captain beefs with Eugene. He also gets to play Ashlyn's dad and he would LOVE getting to boss her around.

Big Red as Shorty: Clueless kings who are supportive to the ones they love and are quite loyal... we don't talk about S4 Big Red, okay? My man is loyal and not whatever they did to him in S4.

Kourtney Greene as Adira: I didn't know what to do with her, but she does have that fierceness that Adira has.

Maddox as Vex (S2): The no-nonsense attitude that Vex has reminds me of Maddox, especially regarding Maddox's attitude towards following the rules and stage management.

Carlos Rodriguez as Xavier: I don't really know anyone for Carlos. Maybe he would be a great Eugene?

Might drop my Criminal Minds cast list next, then Ride the Cyclone.

[team-wonderstudy]

BIG RED X ANTOINE LETS GOOOOOO ❤️❤️❤️

[casmick-consequences]

But yeah bottomline to me is that I actually LOVED what they did with the Maddox and Ashlyn storyline, I just hate that Big Red's entire character had to suffer for it. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[hitchell-mope]

What I hated about the final two seasons

Be warned. There WILL be unpopular opinions in this one. This WILL get petty. And it WILL be mean. So tread carefully

Quinn. That woman should not have been directing a family musical.

Mack. Anyone who’s a threat to Ricky needs to leave

Dani. Too falsely perky. Like Audrey Rose

Redlyn breakup

The cheating plot point

The whole Adam Westing thing Bleu and Johnson had going on.

The fact that there was neither hide nor hair of Efron at all. Ricky could’ve used a pep talk from him. Seeing as he’s played Troy twice. He deserved it.

Ej’s Mirror!Spock facial hair. It never suited him

The constantly poorly thought out parallels.

The overly glorified depiction of Chad Danforth. He was not a The. He was just a supporting character. And not a very good one at that.

Ricky crying. He’s my favourite character. He should never be sad.

Terri Porter. Like. I get that she just wants what’s best for Gina. But she’s very, I dunno, smug about it. Especially when it came to Mack vs Ricky.

The lack of Ryan/Grabeel after the season four premiere

The lack of Big Red and Seb.

Principal Gutierrez. Although I think that was supposed to be the intended effect.

Jarred Pumpkinhead. Enough said.

Dewey Wood. Jackson Stewart I like. Dewey Wood I do not.

No Val in season four.

No last names for Maddox, Jet or Emmy

Lily and Antonine. I still hate them.

The film that Seb and Big Red watched. Couldn’t it have been Brokeback Mountain or something to that effect?

Ricky’s parents. Although I highly doubt that anyone’s going to be surprised by that.

The lack of hip movement during Ricky’s “pants are too tight” line in night to remember

Natalie Bagley only returning for a single episode

The fact that the final two seasons were only eight episodes each.

The implication that absolutely NONE of the theatre club seems to know what Romeo and Juliet is.

The constant lack of sympathy Ricky gets. He was never at fault for anything that happened from his parents splitting up to how Nini treated him. And it’s such a bloody shame that the show never seemed to want to acknowledge that

I understand that it was necessary. But I still kinda wish that Ricky and Gina weren’t a secret for most of the final season you know?

The fact that we only ever saw one rina date.

The fact that season four was the end of such a great show.

There’s probably more but that’s all I can think of right now. Tell me what you think?

[sapphirebluejewel]

I love how they are bringing everyone back!!!