#because so many people are FOR genocide!!!!

[fromchaostocosmos]

V for Vendetta is a great movie. It is one of my favorite films. I have lots of feelings about it.

And whenever I watch the movie there is one major question I'm left asking the whole time and it is one of the reasons why it makes the film really hard to watch for me.

That question is "Where are the Jews?". Now that might seem like an odd question to have.

But it is not. Just how I'm it might seem odd that I'm anxiety writing my addition to this post, but it is not really all that odd when you start to think about.

I am Jewish. I view the world around through the lens of being Jewish and with the all that that means. It also means that I carry the history of my people and the many many many Trauma of my people and we have a lot.

You may know about the Holocaust, but do not think that was only Genocide in our history. There are been many Genocides and Ethnic Cleansings enacted against us in our history. And we carry that Trauma through the ages, no matter how long it has been. No matter if it has been decades, centuries, or millennia. You don't really lose it ever.

V for Vendetta takes place in the UK and there is a large sized population in the UK. There is also a pretty long and nasty history of antisemitism on said Island.

V for Vendetta does purposefully at points invoke Holocaust and Nazi imagery.

And the movie makes a point to show and inform how various groups are seen and treated under this fascistic regime.

But not once does it touch upon on the Jews.

You would expect to believe that Jews are safe in world like that. Bullshit.

In fact this kept bothering me so much that the first time I watched the movie I kept being distracted by my question.

The reason I also bring this is up is not to say "this is movie is bad and you can't enjoy it" because that is not what I'm trying to say at all.

In fact I think I enjoy this movie a lot. I think that is the kind of film that forces you to think and ask questions.

My point is rather to get you to think and ask question too. To see what is often missing from picture and ask why? To question why is the danger that Jews are in so often ignored or just not understood and/or seen even as danger.

Where are the Jews?

seeing all the 14-17 y/o queer kids who don’t know what v for vendetta is…. u mean the blockbuster film written by two trans women about a masked vigilante who decides to singlehandedly take down a fascist alternate version of england set in the distant year of 2020… and his driving force was getting justice for a lesbian who he never met but whose diary he found, who was separated from her wife before being killed by said fascist gov…. and it stars natalie portman…. okay

[pshbites]

the word zionist / zionism. 

To preface, these are my own thoughts and beliefs. I am not making this post to bash any writers on this platform because I believe enough of that is already happening. This post is rather being made to spread awareness of what I believe is going on.

The word Zionism in my own terms, if I were asked to describe it in front of people, would be the belief of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and ridding Palestinians of their own home. If i were asked as a muslim to describe it, my answer would be different. The answer I would give would be the ethnic cleansing of palestine and ridding palestinians of their own home because they are muslims. In short, killing muslims in the benefit to ethnic cleansing. Now that the term has been defined I think most can agree why this term is so loaded, the term in itself has connotations to islamophobia and many muslim mutuals of mine agree that this term is heavy and loaded.

To accuse someone of being a zionist (someone who follows zionism) is a hefty statement and can be plausible if the correct evidence has been provided. That isn't the case from what I’ve seen though. Two of my close mutuals have been accused of being as such by other writers. Seeing as I am muslim and I believe, muslims more than anyone have more reason to believe who is and who is not a zionist, I decided to message them myself. 

This conversation ended rather quickly because I blocked the person, okwonyo, involved. To accuse a muslim of being a zionist is one thing, but to claim that “being muslim has nothing to do with this” is another. Calling people zionists is not something that can be brushed past so easily and the only evidence being that the person involved had a Lana Del Rey song as her fic title? To put it simply, it shows where your real activism lies and that is to villainize others for no reason.

I agree, supporting zionism is bad, I agree with that more than anyone. But to focus on such a miniscule detail when you claim to want better for palestine, well that defeats the whole purpose. If this writer and their mutuals claim that this is an act of zionism then let's open up a case. If having your fic title as a lana del rey song is equated to being a zionist, then writing for enhypen or any other kpop group makes you one as well.

According to this writer's logic, if writing any sort of fic related to a song by a zionist makes you one, then writing for kpop idols under zionist companies makes you just as bad. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You cannot stream enhypen or other kpop groups if you claim that you can't separate art from the artist, well then your genre of kpop is gone as a whole along with other musicians you like such as ariana grande, taylor swift, the weekend, and billie eilish, to name some. 

My point here is that if you claim that you can't separate art from the artist, then hold that same candle to your own favs, kpop or otherwise. This was never about the lana del rey fic title but rather about the fact that your activism will only matter to you when you want to villainize someone for something. I have seen performative activism and this is a call out to ALL writers and not just one.

If you want to sit behind your screen and accuse zionism on someone, then go and use a genocide to paint them as a villain to your band of supporters, you are wasting time. Time is being wasted every second you do this to someone (surprisingly enough it didn't happen once) and instead if you claim that you care so much about Palestine then go out and do something about it. Like I said previously, go donate, attend rallies and protests, support your local mosques, boycott things that REALLY matter. If you would do these things rather than blindly attacking someone for no reason and accusing them of being part of such a disgusting group of people, you would be doing a lot more for palestine. 

If I were to be honest, all I see from fellow writers on this app is performative activism. I have grown up knowing the genocide occurring in palestine and I have always attended protests and donated funds for as long as I can remember. I am not saying that you are lacking if you don’t do these things, but to only bring up this genocide when you want to attack someone, that is the real issue. You cannot just add a link in your bio or pinned for the sake of your followers. If you are not constantly talking about or spreading awareness for this terrible genocide that’s been occurring since the 1940s then you are a part of the problem. 

This genocide does not only exist on your phones. To sit behind a screen and only talk about it then, it diminishes all the activism you have and liquifies you to what you are and that is a performative activist. Once again, performative activism has never been cute and if this genocide only exists in the bounds of trying to villainize others, then you are just as bad as the group you claim to be so far against. 

tagging some mutuals for exposure. @cupidhoons @ourhees @elysianiki @kairoot @suneng @hyuckworld @lqfiles @jayparked @selleprotection @fatalhoon @enhastars @coqhee @leeechin

[cupidhoons]

it's weird how you aren't speaking out for the fact that you are using a zionist for your fics. shouldn't you be apologizing or at least acknowledging it? the lack of maturity you have 😭 girl just deleted it and didn't even apologize for it.

perfect timing actually anon! i have a whole post drafted on it in my google docs but i can assure you it's not me apologizing for defending myself against writers accusing me of such things. while i do acknowledge my mistake of not being educated enough on lana del rey and her practically begging the president to fund the genocide, i hope you guys do realize that equating me to being a zionist from this situation is just as insensitive and ignorant.

i urge you guys to read my side on this & understand why me and my two other mutuals are upset.

hi guys! as you all know (or assuming that many of you know) that recently i am being accused of supporting zionism/being called a zionist in general by multiple writers on tumblr. before i go on to defending and dropping screenshots of what actually happened & going on to explain my side of the story, let's take a look at the definition of zionism & why it is absolutely NOT okay to throw it around so lightly.

ZIONISM is not only the general term of supporting israel, but also the term that supports the national ethnic cleansing of palestine, which equates to killing all muslims. (defined by @pshbites or more known as kaia & her other muslim friends who grew up knowing that this is what this word meant.) 

READ ANOTHER DEFINITION FROM JEWISH VOICE FOR PEACE (LINK): “While it had many strains historically, the Zionism that took hold and stands today is a settler-colonial movement, establishing an apartheid state where Jews have more rights than others. Our own history teaches us how dangerous this can be.

Palestinian dispossession and occupation are by design. Zionism has meant profound trauma for generations, systematically separating Palestinians from their homes, land, and each other. Zionism, in practice, has resulted in massacres of Palestinian people, ancient villages and olive groves destroyed, families who live just a mile away from each other separated by checkpoints and walls, and children holding onto the keys of the homes from which their grandparents were forcibly exiled.”

i also urge you to check for more information on kaia’s blog & her personal take on this.

so, now that we know what it means & why it's such a loaded word, let's take a look at what the situation at hand looked/looks like:

the other day i posted a sunghoon fic titled “ultraviolence” inspired by lana del rey’s song (it's now changed to “pictures of us, which was my original title for the fic but thought it didn't quite fit the vibe). now, why is this a problem? because i'm apparently “promoting” an artist that begged the president to fund the genocide in gaza, when NOWHERE in my work stated that you should stream lana’s song, become a fan of her’s, and also support/fund a genocide. 

while i do admit that i handled the “anons” (and i put in quotes bc i know for a fact they were ppl who i knew sent them in) terribly and also explained my own personal thoughts and feelings on this topic badly, my words should not be twisted and blown out of proportion to the point where people can freely accuse me of being part of such a horrible and disgusting group of people.

however, that's only the general situation. the real problem for me was when yesterday morning at exactly 7:22am (this timestamp is important for what i'm about to say later on), okwonyos or better known as jiah, texted me, letting me know that she saw the way i responded to the anon & accused me of “actively supporting” someone who “begged the president to fund the killing of millions of children, women, and men of palestine.” (see screenshots below)

now, you guys may think that she's only doing what's right & willingly called out a mutual for not having her morals straight, but to be blankly accusing someone of being a zionist when i've been it clear that i stand with palestine & basically saying i'm stupid does not sit right with me. 

her saying that she “isn't going to try and make me gain common sense” was so off topic & so unnecessary to bring up & could've left it at me having my own take on separating the art from the artist, which to many people on blr, “does not exist.” but if separating the art from the artist does not exist, then shouldn't we boycott enhypen too? shouldn't we also stop writing and supporting enhypen too? because last time i checked enhypen, and along with many other groups/artists, are underneath zionist companies. so with that logic, should we just stop consuming content from enhypen and our favorite groups/artists all in all? because if we are going by this logic, then we’re ALL zionists and we are all PROMOTING zionism. 

another thing is when she says “it's weird that you barely talked about what was happening in palestine until it was to defend a zionist.” ??? defending a zionist WHERE exactly? i told the “anons” i received a day before this conversation that i am not a hardcore lana del rey fan, and again, nowhere did i say that i was defending lana & her actions of again, wanting the preseident to fund a genocide. keep in mind also, that she DOES NOT know me personally & that i was NEVER close to her nor did i EVER consider her a FRIEND, so she (along with other writers) has no right to accuse me of “not speaking up about palestine” enough. 

so the fact that im being known as a supporter killing innocent lives of people in the enhablr community when the fact is that i've spoken up about it numerous times in my personal life & have encouraged many people in my life to donate and spread the daily click all because i don't “reblog enough” about it sits weird to me. not only that, but it also gives me the vibe that many writers on tumblr—weather it's true or not—thinks of this genocide as a trend and does it as “preformative activism” for the sake of not wanting to lose followers. (kaia’s post touches more on this too)

now obviously, i did reply to her message and did go back and forth with her for some time while i was present in school. me, being offended & GREATLY angered by her choice of words & going as far as associating me with such people, rightfully called her out on it & brought up the fact that her saying that isn't “cute” or right at all. but clearly, this was all read wrong & i wasnt able to explain or expand on it properly because i was simultaneously also in my homeroom speaking with my friends! 

and i know, someone is going to bring up the fact that i shouldn't have responded immediately or that i could've responded later in my day, but keep in mind that if i didnt, i probably would've been blocked anyway without getting the chance to explain myself properly. i cant help but feel that they messaged me purposefully during that time because they know i would be defenseless either way. 

im going to tell it straight now and say that i know i am in the wrong for not being able to explain myself properly & not touching on these points more in the moment, but i had absolutely NO time throughout the day to explain myself as i was blocked almost immediately by everyone, which says a lot, especially when one of the mutuals who blocked me right after that conversation was close to me & who i even considered my friend. 

besides that however, i will say this once more & once again that i am NOT what numerous people on tumblr think i am & none of you guys know me at all personally either. you guys can believe what you want about this situation, but i urge you all to get to know both sides at the very least before following what bigger writers say. im not doing this to maintain my following or even gain more followers, i just don't appreciate people calling & associating me with a group of people that i am so against. i don't at all appreciate people assuming they know me and my character all so well when absolutely none of them have ever bothered to reach out to me and even get to know me. 

but yes anon, go ahead and tell me how immature i am & say it with your full chest how i am a zionist for simply using a popular song that everyone has heard one way or another as my title on my fic!

[okwonyo]

hi everyone ! so i guess many if you has seen @cupidhoons post about what i said to her. since you all heard her version of the story, here is mine.

a few days ago, liz made a post inspired by a lana del rey song— a woman who is funding the genocide and asked the president to keep going.

as you can see on the picture, an anon did tell her about it and she had the audacity to first, not even apologize, but second call out the “separate art from artist card” which is not valid at all. not in this kind of situation, especially when we are talking about the killing of many children, women and men.

you can see that right from the start, she made it about anyone but herself. claiming that other bloggers did the same. starting to blame everyone else but herself.

i went to her dms and talked to her about it— as you saw in her posts. here is what i say (which i stand for) and what she responded. then kaia @pshbites (who had nothing to do with this) came along.

(you can search ariana palestine to see what she has done for the people, it takes 2 seconds)

i never once in my messages told them “kaia, liz, you guys are ZIONISTS” no. i just told a truth that giving money to people who support isreal is funding the genocide— because what do you think they do with this money?

now, if i did call them a zionist anywhere, then i apologize. i admit that it’s quite a strong word to use. but i won’t take back anything that i said, wether it hurts your feelings or not.

all i did was to go in liz’s dms and explain to her why i was going to block her. and instead of apologizing for doing something wrong, she is making herself the victim in this situation because “i called her a zionist” when this isn’t what she should care about.

she should care about how she is promoting a zionist artist and wonder why it is bad to separate the art from artist, not only in this situation but in any kind of way.

she can use the excuse that she has a muslim friend, “i’m not racist ! my neighbor is a black woman !” using religion to defend yourself isn’t right, it doesn’t make sense, there are not only muslims in palestine. this isn’t a genocide because of religion, it’s a genocide because of the people. there are chirstians in palestine as well— and most of you not knowing this says a lot about the people that you are.

now, you can make this entire situation about me being the problem. you can say “oh but jiah called someone a zionist, so problematic!” and turn around to support people who showed support to a zionist and didn’t stop AFTER knowing the truth.

this situation isn’t about me allegedly calling liz a zionist, this situation is so much bigger than this and it’s just sad that it got reduced to this kind of drama. this situation is about how some people will reblog links and do post about palestine while still listening to artists that are publicly zionist. they will turn around and drink cocacola, they will go and eat mcdonald.

you can reblog as many posts as you want, but if don’t do the boycott RIGHT you are doing nothing. i know what i’m talking about, i had to stop listening to my favorite kpop group because of this and here is a proof of me acknowledging and learning from my mistakes :

which is why i don’t understand why liz can’t simply do the same without making a whole post about it. you can say that i was harsher with her than rei (@soov) was with me. but i wasn’t promoting jennie on my blog and claiming that it’s okay to give zionists money if we are separating the art from the artist.

so it’s all that i have to say.

[queeranarchism]

I have a theory: to get to the point where Netanyahu and many zionists are, he has had to overlook a whole lot of other things that looked like the Holocaust.

People driven from their home and their possessions taken from them? It's not what it looks like, because it's us and our allies doing it. People pushed into crowded areas with poor housing, dwindling food supplies and the constant threat of deadly force? It's not what it looks like, because it's us and our allies doing it. Genocide, not just in the form of the deliberate mass murder of civilians and thedestruction of the necessities of life, but with the stated goal of whipping out the entirety of a population? It's not what it looks like, because it's us and our allies doing it. It's never what it looks like when the people doing it are on our side.

Committing a genocide while claiming to be acting to prevent one is a game of intense self-denial and with every lie, the stakes got higher. By this point, admitting that sometimes, something done by a person 'on our side' IS exactly what it looks like runs the risk of unraveling the whole thing. If this is exactly what it looks like, then what else is also exactly what it looks like? Questioning this risks opening the door to questioning everything and may lead to answers too horrible to contemplate. So Musk can not be a nazi. His gesture can not be a nazi salute. Anything else threatens his reality.

Yes, do it, close the gap between Zionism and Nazism

[girlactionfigure]

I recently received the following comment on a post about the collaboration between the father of Palestinian nationalism, Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Muslim Brotherhood (i.e. from which Hamas originated), and the Nazis:

Perhaps this user was unaware that I already have at least two or three older posts addressing this so-called “agreement,” known as the Haavara Agreement. 

To supplement this post, I recommend the following posts: 

Final Solution, Rebranded

The Zionists and the Nazis

Palestine and the Holocaust

Enough Holocaust Inversion

Even More Holocaust Inversion

THE HAAVARA AGREEMENT

Immediately following Hitler’s rise to power in 1933, the Nazis wasted no time in passing antisemitic legislation, including a boycott of Jewish businesses, and, between 1933-1938, a process known as “voluntary Aryanization” (which later became “mandatory Aryanization”) transferred Jewish businesses and assets to Germans. German Jews became increasingly desperate to flee, but no countries wanted to take in Jewish refugees, and this economic marginalization made emigration virtually impossible.

In 1933, Eliezer Hoofein, the director of the Anglo-Palestine Bank, and the Reich Economics Ministry negotiated the Haavara Agreement. Under the terms of the agreement, Jews fleeing persecution in Germany could use their assets to purchase German goods for export, thus salvaging their assets and facilitating emigration to Palestine under the immigrant investor visa, in spite of severe British antisemitic immigration restriction policies.

Even so, the Haavara Agreement was met with staunch opposition, both among Zionist and anti-Zionist Jews. In response to the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses, Jews worldwide enacted a boycott on German goods themselves. The Haavara Agreement was not in line with the Jewish anti-German boycott, as the Jewish community in both Germany and Palestine would be purchasing German goods. German public opinion also opposed the agreement. The Haavara Agreement was dissolved after World War II broke out in 1939.

The Haavara Agreement, though deeply controversial, ultimately saved the lives of some 60,000 German Jews. For context, the Haavara Agreement was similar to making a hostage deal with Hamas…making a deal with a hostile, genocidal enemy to save the lives of your own people. It wasn’t Zionist-Nazi “collaboration” by any stretch of the imagination. Indeed, in dozens of foreign policy documents, the Nazis themselves clarified that the Haavara Agreement should not be confused with Nazi support for Zionism or a Jewish state.

NAZI COMMENTS ON ZIONISM

(1) August 13, 1920 Adolf Hitler speech, titled “Why We Are Antisemites,” delivered to a cheering crowd of 2000 at the Hofbräuhaus am Platzl in Munich.

“And so we can now understand why the whole Zionist state and its establishing is nothing but a comedy. Herr Chief Rabbi has now said in Jerusalem: ‘Establishment of this state is not the most important; it is far from certain if it will at all be possible.’ However, it is necessary that Jewry has this city as its spiritual headquarters because Jewry ‘materially and in fact are the masters of several states; we control them financially, economically and politically.’ And so the Zionist state is going to be a harmless corn of sand in the eye. Efforts are made to explain that so and so many Jews have been found that want to go there as farmers, workers, even soldiers.” 

[Crowd interrupts with laughter]

“If these people really have this urge in themselves, Germany today needs these ideal men as turf cutters and coal miners; they could take part in building our water power plants, our lakes etc. but it does not occur to them. The whole Zionist state will be nothing else than the perfect high school for their international criminals, and from there they will be directed. And every Jew will, of course, have immunity as a citizen of the Palestinian state--”

[Crowd laughs again]

“-- and he will of course keep our citizenship. But when caught red-handed, he will not be a German Jew any longer but a citizen of Palestine.”

(2) Adolf Hitler’s infamous 1925 Manifesto, Mein Kampf.

“For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.”

(3) Top secret telegram written by the Nazi Germany Foreign Minister to the German Embassy in Great Britain, the German Consulate General in Jerusalem, and the German Legation in Iraq. June 1, 1937.

“The formation of a Jewish state or a Jewish-led political structure under British mandate is not in Germany’s interest, since a Palestinian state would not absorb world Jewry but would create an additional position of power under international law for international Jewry, somewhat like the Vatican State for political Catholicism or Moscow for the Comintern. 

Germany therefore has an interest in strengthening the Arab world as a counterweight against such a possible increase in power for world Jewry.”

(4) Addendum to the previous telegram for the German Embassy in Great Britain. June 1, 1937.

“Therefore, please indicate to the Government there when occasion offers that Germany is also interested in developments in Palestine. Although Germany has hitherto aided the emigration of Jews of German citizenship to Palestine as much as possible, it is incorrect to assume that Germany would also welcome the formation of a political structure more or less under Jewish leadership in Palestine. We do not believe that the efforts to tranquilize the international situation would be aided by the formation of a Jewish state in Palestine.” 

[You can find dozens of other official Nazi documents from 1937 expressing the same sentiments in “Documents on German Foreign Policy, 1918-1945,” available on Google Books]

(5) Adolf Hitler to the father of Palestinian nationalism, Haj Amin al-Husseini. November 28, 1941.

“Germany is resolved, step by step, to ask one European nation after the other to solve its Jewish problem, and at the proper time to direct a similar appeal to non-European nations as well.”

DEBUNKING OUT-OF-CONTEXT PROPAGANDA

This is one of the most widely-shared photos among anti-Israel propagandists. Ironically, the photo comes from the Central Zionist Archives in Jerusalem, and it’s usually presented out-of-context.

The real context is this: these are Haganah soldiers sometime around April of 1948, after capturing the Katamon neighborhood in South Jerusalem from the Jordanian Arab Legion and the Palestinian Arab militias. The Nazi flags in the photo were seized from either Arab homes or the German Templar Colony in Jerusalem.

The coin below is often also presented as “evidence” of Zionist-Nazi collaboration. In reality, the coin was not Zionist-made, but rather, a cynical piece of Nazi propaganda.

As Holocaust and antisemitism historian Paul Bogdanor explains, “The image shows a coin struck by the Nazis in the 1930s to mark a series of articles published in the newspaper Der Angriff about a trip to Palestine by one of their agents. It was created by the Nazis to pretend that they wanted an ‘honorable’ solution to the ‘Jewish Question’ via the transfer agreement [Haavara Agreement], which the Nazis later abandoned. The coin was of course pure Nazi propaganda, like a rapist pretending to sympathize with his victim. [Those using the image to discredit Zionism are] unscrupulously repeating Nazi propaganda.”

For a full bibliography of my sources, please head over to my Instagram and  Patreon. 

ootsmetals

I’m so so tired of this distortion. Have your (informed) criticism of Israel, Israeli policies, and Zionism, if you wish. But when you depict Zionism as though in cahoots with Nazism, you’re not only revising our history, but you’re distorting the Holocaust, plain and simple. Holocaust distortion *is* Holocaust denial. Period.  made this into a post from stories per popular request.

[onlyjjong]

hello everyone, lili here ! ^^ i would appreciate it if you took the time to read this properly and spread it!

after reading thoroughly through several posts and hearing stories of several people, I want to take a moment to share my thoughts on the ongoing situation. I understand that this is a sensitive topic, and I want to make it clear that I am speaking purely from my own perspective, and I am making this post, not influenced by any parties. My intention is not to provoke or mock anyone, and I acknowledge that both sides have their own rights and wrongs.

Because of this, I do not want to take sides, and I am NOT picking any sides, but I will stand by what I truly believe is right. One of those beliefs is that hiding behind the image of religion does not justify or excuse wrongdoings. I also recognize that I am still learning, and there are many people far more educated on this matter (this whole situation circulating right now & the palestine situation + their history) than I am. However, from what I do know, religion should never be used as a defense for harmful actions.

Additionally, I feel that the concept of “supporting the art but not the artist” does not entirely fit this situation. When an artist actively supports zionism and genocide (or similar actions), engaging with their art—especially through streaming their songs and content or purchasing their work—directly benefits them. While creating content inspired by a song may not be entirely wrong, actively promoting and financially supporting such an artist is wrong. I want to be very clear about this: this applies not just to this particular case but to any artist or brand with harmful affiliations.

For one side of this discussion, I understand that being called a Zionist is deeply upsetting, and no one should be labeled as such unless they openly identify as one. as my friend soph (mwah ! love u babes) put it well, this [zionism] is a very strong term, and I believe this situation could have been handled in a much calmer, less aggressive way—on both sides. I also acknowledge that it is hurtful when others assume things about you based on a single action or post, especially online. no one on tumblr truly knows you, and they do not have the right to judge you so harshly.

At the same time, I do believe that if you choose to boycott something, you need to do it properly—otherwise, it loses its impact. In my personal life, I have been actively trying to implement this by reminding myself and those around me about the brands and artists we should avoid, especially those that have publicly taken a harmful stance regarding palestine. However, I admit that when it comes to neutral or uncertain cases (such as artists like enhypen or other hybe/sm artists [take note that jake has apologised for using starbucks!] or other artists that are under companies that require them by contract to stay silent; or brands that have not publicly stated that they are pro or anti palestine 𑁋 and i believe that @boyfhee worded this better here), I sometimes struggle and make mistakes too. The lines can be blurry, and if anyone is more knowledgeable about this, I genuinely welcome corrections and guidance.

I also want to take this opportunity to sincerely apologize if I have ever hurt anyone—whether knowingly or unknowingly, intentionally or unintentionally—throughout my time on tumblr. I have never and will never accuse someone of being a Zionist without concrete evidence, and I deeply regret if I have ever made anyone feel that I have. If you feel I have wronged you, please feel free to reach out to me. I truly believe that misunderstandings can be resolved through civil and open conversations.

some of you may feel that I am being nosy or speaking on something that does not directly involve me. However, I believe that global issues—especially those involving human rights—are not just the responsibility of those directly affected. Staying informed, speaking up, and holding ourselves accountable for the impact of our choices are important, regardless of where we come from. Silence in the face of injustice only enables suffering of many innocent lives to continue. That said, I am not claiming to be an expert or forcing my views on anyone. I am simply sharing my thoughts based on what I have learned so far, and I remain open to corrections and new perspectives.

At the end of the day, I believe people make mistakes, and every party involved in a conflict should reflect and apologize when necessary. I am committed to learning and growing, and I encourage open discussions with kindness and respect. If I have made any mistakes in my understanding or statements, please do not hesitate to reach out—I am always open to learning and correcting myself.

thank you for reading, and have a great day/night!

tagging to boost ! (sorry for any unwanted tags + i’m posting on this blog because i have more followers here) @miumura , @coqhee , @orimuraa , @legomaster333 , @weoris , @amouriu , @antoncyng , @geutori , @juyeoz , @macapunoz , @mujeans

[redpillfuturist215]

This is a multi-part post. Recently some guy criticized one of my reblogs and in rare form I actually typed up a response but before I could that Tumblr account was apparently deleted so the comment and post lost forever. Well, turns out I took a screenshot so since I took the time to retort I might as well share it and make an example out of him so here we go…

1st off, a few small things I don’t have the time to research every single thing, event or whatever. People who got rich in the 20th century are not “old money”. I don't care to know but Trump and Musk are probably only 2nd generation wealthy, one thing for sure is they are not elites and certainly not cabal members. In the age of false accusations and going after political opponents with the entire mainstream media in tow, so called convictions mean nothing. Let’s say Trump did rape someone though … there are far more criminals in or aligned with the democratic party including sex predators and pedophiles, along with the elites who’ve been raping and sacrificing children for decades if not centuries so GTFOH! Democrats and the left do nothing but project, accusing others of what they are guilty for, a tactic straight out of the Marxist and Nazi playbooks. I’m pretty sure they admitted seeking to tie him up and drain his finances in attempt to keep him from getting back in the white house.

Now let’s address the main topic, the long history of US democrat racism which is very well documented so therefore not propaganda or “far right” because the real truth has no agenda and how they’ll destroy anything from the environment to an entire nation in pursuit of the continued subjugation of my people and others they hate. That said I’ve criticized republicans too because so many of them are cowards, esp. since the so called compromise of 1877.

Black women are the reason 90% of us vote democrat, because they are financial sellouts aiding in our own oppression and genocide, they are a joke. This is why black men more or less spearhead the red pill movement, we were the first to get fucked over by feminism and gynocentrism, so much so that it gave rise to IBMOR – introspective black men of reform as well as SYSBM – save yourselves black men. I’ve dealt with it and have heard accounts of several others, virtually all attempts to educate them are futile, it’s like talking to a wall. Aside from the desire for “free” resources and mental slavery, they are just simply too emotional to accept reality. Moving on… Nothing brings out emotionally driven leftists or whatever the fuck like a black person, esp. a man, reminding others he is not a US democrat supporter. The US republican party was established to stop slavery and other democrat violations of human rights, terrorism. Almost immediately after the civil war they were helping blacks become congressman and representatives. Decades would pass before any democrats did. It doesn’t matter what faults republicans have or how cowardly they have become more or less since the 1877 compromise, democrats have always hated blacks. Founded to defend, expand slavery Created the Confederacy, started a civil war Refused to attend Lincoln’s inauguration for the “radical” idea of freeing the slaves and ultimately shot him in the head over it Rapes, beatings, lynchings Circumcising male slaves to “prevent them from raping white women” Not only were white women raping black slaves, some white male slave owners (again, all democrats) were also raping them in the open as a form of humiliation and dominance. The practice was called breaking the buck or something like that Created the KKK While the KKK lynching blacks is pretty well known, most don’t know that at least 1,300 white republicans were also lynched by them roughly between 1880 and 1970 for helping blacks to do things like get a proper education, register to vote The KKK also in turn assisting with the Negro Project which would become Planned Parenthood, designed to target blacks and other “undesirables” for genocide through abortion, yet again with black women being willing participants because feminism and hypergamy Jim Crow, segregation LBJ – “I’ll have those niggas voting democrat for 200 years” The above corrected on 2-6-2025 Thanks for pointing out my typo @mtnman451 I knew it was LBJ, have no idea why I put FDR up there haha but I've now corrected it. Getting us hooked on crack and other hard drugs The welfare state to financially enslave the black community and destroy the family unit, along with abortion having black women being complicit in it The above leading to black children, esp. boys, having the highest abuse rates Poverty and crime skyrocketing as well Mental health issues and suicide rates too Other financial policies meant to keep blacks poor and living in ghettos Democrats aligned with muslims, the only ones still enslaving Africans today which liberals never talk about Saying we’re too stupid to get an ID Calling us Uncle Tom’s and the likes for not supporting the actual party of slavery, a shaming tactic trying to get us back on the mental plantation Biden was against integration of schools and sponsored legislation that led to the mass incarceration of blacks He also sought to prevent blacks from getting high level positions in the government, particularly if they were republican Having the audacity to say if we don’t vote for him then we ain’t black Real quick side note, before covid hit Trump’s policies led to record setting economic achievements for blacks – the greatest combined wealth and lowest unemployment rates on record … but of course the democrats just couldn’t have that in addition to canceling the legacy of successful black people in the past This is just for African Americans

[honourablejester]

I don't think that you are a troll or stupid, but I do think that you spent too much time thinking about watsonian explanation and forget that in real life symbols mean things

Well. Thank you for clarifying.

It’s not that I’ve spent too much time on the Watsonian explanation, it’s that I don’t think the Doylist explanation is that fantasy writers universally (and specifically in this instance Pathfinder writers) want people to believe that the real world crusades were good and/or want to convert readers/players to a fascist cult. Which would appear to be what people in this thread are saying any fantasy depiction of a crusade against an actual supernatural threat would be intended to do.

Symbols do mean things, but so does context. It’s why, to use an equally fraught example, the swastika means something very different in India than it does in Europe. Now, obviously, that’s not directly comparable, as that symbol’s religious use came first, and its appropriation by a completely foreign fascist regime came later, but still. Context alters meaning. It’s why so many fantasy allegories break down. The physical realities as presented in the world of the story alter the interpretation of the real world symbol. Marvel’s mutants as an allegory for any number of discriminated-against peoples, for example, when there are mutants in the story that are a genuine and active genocidal threat – the existence of characters like Magneto make the discussions of the theme/allegory at the very least more complicated. That works exactly the same in the other direction. So a context where the threat is supernatural and is real genuinely can alter the interpretation.

If, granted, you are willing to give it more than surface thought. And here I’m going to put two of your other points together:

We live in a real world and in a real world crusades are a political symbol, and portraying "this time justified" crusade is giving credibility to real-life fanboys of templars and potentially signaling to them that you are on their side. You yourself say that allegory is a tool of fantasy, and fash very much can and do use it to obfuscate the fact that they mean people.

And:

having fantasies of being a bigot only indicates that people who have them are already bigoted.

The people who are going to interpret the fantasy crusade against actual literal demons as ‘proof’ that the real world crusades were also justified are the people who were already going to do that, regardless of context or internal cues within the story. The people who hold the real world crusades as a political symbol are already the people who don’t care about the crusades as anything but that symbol. They don’t care about the historical context of the real crusades any more than they care about the fictional context of the fantasy ones either.

I don’t agree that those people just get to claim a vast swathe of extremely complicated human history, as well as lock off a huge theme for fiction to explore in relation to that history, for fear that examining that symbol will ‘signal’ to a bunch of fuckheads that you might agree with them.

Because, the thing is, the fantasy of this game is not to play a bigot, unless you were already planning to. It does examine the morality of the crusade, even in a context where the enemy is a literal supernatural force of evil, and it also examines whether they are. One of your companion characters explicitly rejects the holy justification of the crusade and believes that even demons can be more than pure evil and should be given a chance to show it, and she can be proved right. And, in the canon result of the crusade beyond the game itself, was. Several of the characters on your side would also give the worst demons a run for their money. However, a country has still been invaded and its population slaughtered, so you also still have to do something about that.  

The fantasy of the game is, I would say, for most people, a fantasy of facing and fighting an overwhelming force of evil. Which is not too far away from the much more politically acceptable fantasy of, say, punching a nazi in the face.

Because yes, if we are exploring which portrayals of violence are good and which are not, we do have to discuss the ethics of war.

Yes, there are very much people who want to play a ‘crusader’ so they can act out murdering people different from them and being lauded for it. But there are also people who want to play out the gothic horror tropes of fighting supernatural foes, or examine the morality of religion in a context where the gods are, in fact, very much real, or who want to play the knight errant of Arthurian myth as if the heroic image of them was real instead of significantly more complicated than that.

I just don’t think it’s useful to say things like ‘all fantasy writers are secretly fascists’ or ‘all paladin players are secretly fascists’ or ‘you can never show this symbol in a positive light no matter what the context’, because all of that is just reductive, and stops people examining the stories we tell (and the symbols we hold) on anything more than a surface level.

And ourselves, maybe, from examining what biases we might be bringing to the story.

Further, fantasy does make supernatural physical reality, but even then it doesn't justify religious wars. Physical gods of fantasy are like real-life kings, and killing someone for not serving your king is still inexcusable.

So, yes. Very much an atheist point of view, then?

Also, like. That’s all of human history? We’re back to the ethics of war. Either killing someone for any reason is inexcusable, or we’re just picking and choosing what causes we’re willing to make exceptions for. Again, if you have a fantasy about killing a nazi, how is that different from a fantasy about killing a demon?

I’m not saying don’t examine every story and see what parts of it hold up and what parts of it don’t, or poke at what unrealised biases the writers might have, I’m saying maybe don’t make blanket statements like ‘fantasy as a genre thinks the crusades were morally good’ and ‘anyone who portrays a crusader as a good person is secretly a fascist and wants to kill people’. Because I’m pretty sure that’s not true, and I’m also pretty sure it doesn’t help to say it’s true. And I also don’t think locking off an entire period of history behind ‘this is evil and ever choosing to portray it is also evil’ is helpful either.

And, with all of that said ... Pathfinder as a setting genuinely does have some ... interesting worldbuilding in relation to real world ... There are a lot of real world conspiracy theories of less-than-laudable origin that Pathfinder uses their fantasy world to examine 'what if something like this was true in the context of another planet'. Since you mentioned the evil lizard people. Golarion straight has the evil serpent empires who ruled the world before man. It has the ancient super empire of Atlantis ('Azlant'), which was destroyed by Cthulhu monsters who telepathically infiltrated humanity, and said Atlantean empire was the origin of the human-turned-god who basically inspired every human empire in the history of the European-analogue of this world to go on an expansion spree. Part of Pathfinder's whole vibe is 'what might it look like if all the crackpot conspiracy theories of our world were actually true on a fantasy planet', as well as 'what would some of the worst and most complicated periods of our history look like if played out in a fantasy world with magic and gods'. 'What if the crusades but with actual demons' is only scratching the surface of what Pathfinder's setting decided to tangle with. And I get that how successful they have been, both on a case by case basis and overall, is very much a 'your mileage may vary' sort of situation. I also get that for some people, the fact that they do this at all, and also consistently, is very much grounds to write the setting off immediately.

Personally, I'm not opposed to using a fantasy world to essentially play out human beliefs and lies to see what might happen if they were true, as pretty much this entire post will show. But I do also understand if other people don't want to engage with it.

I just don't agree with writing off anyone who does choose to engage with it as 'automatically a fascist'. As, well. This post should also show.

kind of concerning how married the fantasy genre is to "crusades as a basically good thing"

[kvtnisseverdeen]

while there are many celebrities who stand with colonizers and are quite literally supporting a genocide, here’s a list of celebrities who have come together and wrote a letter in support of palestine calling for an immediate ceasefire and allowance of aid into gaza (yes, israel is currently blocking all aid from getting into gaza)

the following celebrities have used their platform and privilege for the better:

Alia Shawkat
Alyssa Milano
Amanda Seales
Amber Tamblyn
America Ferrera
Andrew Garfield
Anoushka Shankar
Aria Mia Loberti
Ayo Edebiri
Bassam Tariq
Bassem Youssef
Cate Blanchett
Channing Tatum
Cherien Dabis
Darius Marder
David Cross
Dominique Fishback
Dominique Thorne
Elvira Lind
Farah Bsaiso
Fatima Farheen Mirza
Hasan Minhaj
Hend Sabry
Ilana Glazer
Indya Moore 
James Schamus
Jeremy Strong
Jessica Chastain
Joaquin Phoenix
Jon Stewart
Kristen Stewart
Macklemore
Mahershala Ali
Margaret Cho
Mark Ruffalo
May Calamawy
Michael Malarkey
Michael Stipe
Michelle Wolf
Mo Amer
Oscar Isaac
Quinta Brunson
Ramy Youssef
Riz Ahmed
Rooney Mara
Rosario Dawson
Ryan Coogler
Sandra Oh
Sebastian Silva
Shailene Woodley
Shaka King
Susan Sarandon
Vic Mensa 
Wallace Shawn
Wanda Sykes

[apollos-olives]

before october 7th this blog was a meme page btw.

[mareastrorum]

An annoying part about any fandom discourse is the push to categorize characters, populations, and factions as representations of actual groups IRL. The most annoying one (to me) is insistence that a particular group is Indigenous Peoples and the other is the White Settlers.

Like a lot of people in the U.S., I'm mixed race. Many who are mixed race don't identify as such; they pick one or another. Why? Because mixed race identities are systematically ignored or erased on multiple levels of government and political influence: census records, diversity reports, financial aid qualifications, membership in political groups, etc. Choosing one identity alone is rewarded with greater voice and resources in different spheres. Acknowledging that this split isn't real is offensive to groups in power, both for the dominant hegemony of Whites and the coalitions of minority groups. Each group benefits from enforcing this exclusionary practice because it allows specific people to justify their leadership based solely on their heritage: a new aristocracy.

All this fake dichotomy nonsense in fandom is a replication of that mentality. Like, some media like The Terror really, truly are commentary on colonialism. There's no need to hide the ball about it. If your favorite media has nothing to do with conquest, exploitation of land and resources, or the subjugation of populations for the benefit of foreign powers, then it's not about colonialism. There's other themes to explore.

[spyderslut]

The state of israel is an active genocidal project, horrific in comparable terms to that of the third reich. Antisemitism has not been the overwheming, dominant characteristic of the pro palestinian protests. Anytime I have ever seen it crop up, it has been roundly condemned and beat down. In my local area, weve had zionists threatining to kill us and calling us jew haters because we are forcing them to hear the names of children that the state of israel has gleefully murdered. Far, far more often than ive seen instances of antisemitism at ANY protest ive seen people ask in various or another phrasings "how hypocritical is it that people who supposedly support 'land back' are antizionist?"

Ive seen the horrors that have been consistantly ennacted on the palestinian people over the last year as they happen. Ive seen israeli political leaders talk about palestinians like they are animals to be corralled and pests to be exterminated, ive seen so many corpses of mangled children that have been cut down by sniper rifles and bombs and tankshells, and ive seen so many evil, evil people cheer it on because their brains have been so thoroughly destroyed by an ideology that says nothing other than an imagined facistic ideal of nationhood matters. And these people have the gall to be annoyed when I, a member of a colonized people, dont support the reichs reclamation of rightful german clay zionist project.

You are the victim of propaganda in much the same way any alt-right nazi weirdo is. The people who seek to stop/lessen the evil you see as obviously necessary feel like a threat due to your warped nationalistic worldview. I hope you turn things around, I hope you become a better person. And if it takes too long, I hope you learn to forgive yourself.

i find it real fucking funny how the exact people who have been making jews fear for their lives for the past 16 months are now foaming at the mouth about musk doing the sieg heil. like obviously what he did was repulsive, but these people only care more about not doing anything wrong and hating those who they deem as being the "wrong ones" more than they do about doing literally anything right and creating meaningful change

[gentil-minou]

"This is more about your ego and pride than Palestine" No its about putting pressure on a party that is supporting genocide

It's about logic

Biden and the DNC would rather cause dissent and dissatisfaction within their own party rather than call for a ceasefire

They know they can get away with it because they're a better option than Trump, because they know they could murder babies in front of you and you'll still vote for them.

So why would they call for a ceasefire when they don't need to?

That's why putting the pressure on them, saying they won't get our vote or saying we are looking for other options is so important.

Because that's the only way they will change.

By saying "Vote Blue No Matter Who", you give him and the DNC permission to permit genocide despite the vast majority of public opinion. You say they can do whatever they want because you will vote for them anyways.

You tell them they don't need to do anything else. That in fact they can do whatever they want. You've shown them you are so terrified of your own government that you would rather lie down and let it walk all over you than put any pressure on them at all

They have a year to make a change. Biden could end this all tomorrow, but why would he when he has you doing his dirty work?

[chappellrroan]

people who still hate Joe Alwyn need to get a life asap

[incorrect-riordanverse]

It's really disheartening that Rick Riordan stance on the war I understand that he wants to be neutral on this stance but in my opinion by becoming neutral he only worsening the issue as many Palestines are dying that are mostly children, how the majority of Israeli are supporting the Genocide of Palestine, and how the government is trying so hard (but miserably failing) to justified the genocide. I will hold him accountable for what he said on this issue as during this period the choice is basically "you are with us or against us."

Part of me wishes he will realize what he said was wrong and understand the bigger issue that plays at hand. I will criticism for his actions as how can a man who promotes LGBTQIA and representation of minorities and disabilities in his books turn a blind eyes to Genocide of people. However we can only wait and see on his next move.

One last thing about your previous you said you don't group Riordan with other authors where do you would group him with? Also this is more on an opinion base answer but many people are boycotting companies that support Israel there as been another post on Twitter on boycotting authors. Rick Riordan happens to be one of them. Do you believed that he should be boycotted with other authors or he should be properly educated and apologized for his previous statement? If you believed he should be boycotted what do tou have to say to those who might have the mentality of "separate the art from the artist"

thank you for this ask, and i completely agree with you! it is extremely hypocritical of him considering what he preaches for in his books. i think he’s convinced he has properly addressed the apartheid by using very vague language that can be applied to anything, and in doing so, he’s addressed nothing really.

your first question on who i would group him with— probably other authors who are doing the exact same as him in their virtue signalling. i always like to link my other blogs to each other, so i don’t think it’s a secret that i have a red queen account and i’m pretty passionate about that. unfortunately, victoria aveyard is another fantasy author who has literally wrote a whole four-book series on the uprising against oppression but is now playing neutral in her address of the apartheid. rebecca yarros is in the same boat, although i haven’t read ‘fourth wing,’ fans have said there are large themes of oppression within the book. so if i had to group riordan it would probably be in the ‘i-like-to-write-about-it-for-profit-and-praise-only’ group.

in terms of boycotting, i think that’s a great idea! i would also like to remind everyone that the percy jackson tv show is coming out in a little over a month, but disney is a huge industry financially supporting israel as well ($2 million in funding), which is obviously far more damning than a poorly written address by one person. there is a boycott happening for disney as well— and the pjo show will be released on disney + . i implore everyone to not watch it on that platform!! personally i will be pirating it online (idk if i’ll get into trouble saying that here but lol oh well), because im pretty sure the boycott is only for withdrawing financial support, not simply consuming media.

i feel like separating art from the artist only works if that artist is… like, dead, and you’re using that art and its values as a historical insight to how the world was during its time. you can still like a piece of work that has a problematic artist, you can engage with the work (to an extent). but separating art from the artist barely works because either:

to engage with the art is to support the artist in some way, so that artist is making money based on your interaction with that (particularly in the case for singers and streaming of songs)

that artists’ views and values are so rancid that it’s literally embedded within the text itself. to ignore it is harmful.

harry potter is my all-time favourite example to use, because jkr is the scum of the earth, and her views are entrenched in her work. a lesser known example is sarah j maas and her books (she’s also not as dogshit as jkr, but then again, its not hard to be a better person than her). i’m not going to bag on these people for liking things by problematic people (would be hypocritical of me), i just think it’s cowardly not to address it when you come across it, or at least admit to it. to simply write things off as ‘separate to the artist’ is like purposefully turning off your critical thinking skills.

on whether boycotting or an apology is enough— if riordan did apologise and used specific language and not the nonsense he had in that blog, expressed his remorse for his ignorance and then actually did or said something to support the people of palestine then, yeah. that’s fine and that’s how we learn ig. but he should educate himself, too many activists, people from the arab community and especially palestinians are expected to be all-knowing and to educate everyone else on an already draining and personal tragedy. it’s been exhausting for me, i can’t imagine what they’re going through. if riordan (or anyone) needs to be educated, he should do it himself, and (at least in my opinion) i don’t think the info is very hard to find now. it’s just about weeding out the misinformation.

i think boycotting is a good idea as of now. it can serve to be a catalyst for self reflection for many people. also, as much as i hate most online discourses, talking about it online needs to happen. i don’t want these authors to forget, for a moment, about the ignorance they posted online during a time of international crisis.