#because he’s just that multifaceted?

[hadesknockedupintheunderworld]

The fans: Ugh Sonic was just so preachy. I mean obviously he's supposed to be the good guy, so any uncomfortableness I feel here and any way I feel like Sonic's choices are framed as being why some other people have shitty lives is just bad writing because he is obviously supposed to be right always, but this characterization makes no sense. Isn't he right for the things he did?

Ian Flynn, using Kitsunami to say the (barely even at this point) quiet part even louder: Hey it's almost like ever since the Mr. Tinker event we've been purposely running with the critique of Sonic as being more selfish than he appears. Sonic is upholding a system of Eggman v Sonic that currently benefits him and shuts down talk of how to improve the current system because he likes his own personal enjoyment and he's attached enough to Eggman that he'd rather Eggman pretend to be a good person than be stuck in prison for life. He doesn't even quite practice what he preaches. We are trying to show that the current hero v villain system and Sonic's recklessness currently affects some people poorly and that Sonic isn't a perfect hero.

[screechingfromthevoid]

nothing (besides everyone ignoring Orym's deal) has made me angrier than watching Dorian keep up this facade. Dorian Storm has always been a type of mask he's worn. At first he called himself a liar because of it. The happy go lucky bard was a way of escaping for him. He was escaping Brontë so he created Dorian. He didn't believe he was Dorian. Until the Crown Keepers made Dorian real. And for a while, he really believed he was Dorian. That he has this new family and new life and he could be who he truly wanted to be.

And then his brother came back and made his problems Dorian's problems. Until he had to put Brontë back on. Because even if the Crown Keepers + Cyrus called him Dorian, he was Brontë. He had to be who his brother thought he was.

When Cyrus dies, the thread to Brontë had snapped. He was going to see Orym, back to the Bells Hells, back to Dorian Storm. But the foundation of Dorian had shattered. Dorian was created in order to run from his place in life, family, Cyrus. Now he was gone. The Crown Keepers had fallen apart. His friends fell through his fingers and he couldn't do anything to stop it. He was once ready to side with a betrayer god for these people and now they're in the wind.

So Dorian shows back up to Bells Hella and he's completely broken. The foundation of both of his lives has been thoroughly rocked. No brother. No Crown Keepers. The two things that forged Dorian Storm. He wears that mask so fucking well. Because he still wants to believe in it. He said it live on stage that he should "believe his own backstory". The one he made up. The one where he was a bard.

He wants to be Dorian so bad. He spends all his money on Orym, he spins the bottle so he can kiss his friends, he flirts, he blushes and giggles at compliments. Exactly how Dorian would, should.

But he wears the gold of the heir. He has a festering animosity inside his chest. He doesn't sleep. He's thinner than he was. He doesn't sleep. He sicks abominations after their creators. He talks to God's without an ounce of self preservation, daring them to strike him down. He does not acknowledge them as they taunt him.

The god of beauty and magic calls him beautiful and he does not smile.

[australianklaviergavin]

(The werewolf was you)

[jacarandaaaas]

I notice how (most of) the fandom likes to pin Mirabel as motherly but...Camilo's right there. I can see him getting strict when he needs to be or blurts out the right advice at the right time...which literally shocks everyone when he does but still. In other words, he's the "mom/dad" friend that everybody needs at the right time.

He takes care of kids all day + Is a natural caretaker like Julieta is. We don't know much of his personality other than "mischievous" but taking care of kids from an early age can surely make someone responsible and mature overtime.

Mirabel isn't the town babysitter; she has her own things going on. And I know she loves kids and all, but she strikes more as an older sister/ "aunt who gives you the candy you aren't supposed to have" kind of gal than a motherly type. Don't get me wrong, I honestly think she's good with advice too, but Camilo comes in a close second.

Yet, there's literally a tag on ao3 that's "Mirabel Madrigal acting as Antonio Madrigal's parental figure" that belongs to 94 fics. It's not a lot but still.

I'm okay with it being an au and all, have your fun, but Camilo takes care of kids on a regular basis. Shouldn't he be the one that's seen as parental?

It would be funny to see the slacker get fed up with someone's antics and start scolding like a parent would. I'm sure when it happens it makes the person do a double take because it's not something he does often. Rarely even.

So, when it does happen, it's shocking.

It would be nice to have Camilo be painted as someone who is emotionally mature. Maybe not to the extent of Mirabel, but like I said, he takes care of children. That has to make someone emotionally mature to some extent.

It would be nice to see Camilo not painted as a jerk for once. Sure, he's incredibly blunt but not a jerk! And yes, he's a teen boy, he's going to feel emotions like one, but we SAW him giving tea to his mom when she was freaking out.

Not jerk teenager would do that unless they were forced too. Camilo isn't forced, he wants his mama to be calm so SHE can feel a little better. We can see that by the way he's talking to her.

It would be hilarious to see Camilo using a chancla on someone (maybe a bully who's harassing Mirabel) and ending it with-

"AND DON'T THINK YOUR PARENTS WON'T HEAR ABOUT THIS!"

Sorry for the rant, I didn't intend for it to get that long.

anon you are speaking my language!! I’ve talked about my dislike for parentified mirabel before so it’s nice to see I’m not alone on that!

camilo definitely has a more nurturing side and we see it as early as the opening song! Whilst I wouldn’t go as far to say he acts like a parent he definitely knows how to discipline children and is just naturally good at dealing with them! I would love to see more content that talks about how caring camilo is (I am sick of the jerk camilo thing he’s not heartless guys!) I can definitely see him as more experienced with kids than mirabel as he’s the babysitter she’s more just the fun one who hangs around with them! it’s a very different dynamic as we don’t really see mirabel necessarily looking after kids only entertaining them! As for your point on camilo being emotionally mature I would have to agree! the mothers wouldn’t trust him with their kids if they thought he would be irresponsible! he definitely knows how to scold them even if it’s surprising when it happens! I’m glad you mentioned the tea scene, as I think it shows a different side to camilo! he is caring and he’s good at comforting people! he isn’t gonna try make a situation worse he cares about his mother and wants to assure her! and I hate when people use that scene against pepa too! it is normal to make your mother tea weirdos!!! I love that scene despite how brief it is and we see glimpses of that side of camilo in the comics too!

As for mirabel 100% agree! she definitely strikes me as someone the kids would view as the cool older best friend much more than a parental figure. They don’t want to make her mad because in their eyes she’s cool! she’s fun and entertaining and they don’t want to make her mad! it’s not the case of a parent where it’s they know they’ll get in trouble for it! that’s partly what inspired my camp counselor au lmao! the fact mirabel is so good with kids in a way she makes them feel validated she doesn’t reprimand them she is someone they view as a friend! The mirabel is antonios mother fic genre is one I completely avoid i love their relationship because she is so much more of an older sister figure to him! I’ve said before I don’t like these fics so I tend to avoid them even if I don’t really read fics anymore lmao!

but I agree with most of your points! camilo is always seen as the fun one whilst mirabel is the parental one when in canon it’s the other way around! that’s not to say camilo isn’t fun because he absolutely is but we see him actually babysitting we see mirabel just hanging out with kids for fun! what I really need to see is mirabel and camilo as a babysitting duo that would be so fun!! both of them are 15 and deserve to have fun!! let mirabel have fun!! I would love to see more stuff involving camilos nurturing side for sure though!

[pagesofkenna]

svsss thing i cant stop thinking about, and im hoping its not a case of i just misinterpreted a thing but i'm pretty sure we got a just casual reveal of the fact that Shen Qingqiu didn't kill Liu Qingge

like, in that dream sequence where SQQ sees the events and deaths in the original story/gets his limbs ripped off, he sees LQG going through his qi deviation, and LQG stabs himself. SQQ doesn't stab him. like sure he didn't save him like Shen Yuan does but he didn't go into that cave with the intent to do a murder

idk it just really struck me, and it was so casual and there was bigger stuff happening in that dream sequence but with everything else we learn about SQQ/Shen Jiu the fact that he spends the whole original novel being 'LQG's murderer' and he just. he didn't do it. he did a lot of other crap but he didn't kill that one guy you expected him to kill. i think about it a lot

[duncanor]

Gotta say, people are being very annoyingly defensive over Mel when she's just as flawed as any other characters. And that's why she's so great tbh. She IS manipulative, she was greedy, she used people for her own gain. Her goal was to mold Pilltover into something greater, richer.

But that doesn't make her evil or anything. She was the fox. She was a goal achiever but also someone very kind. Someone who always seeked peace over violence.

I don't think it's bad to say she used Jayce because she did. She was the one to corrupt his dream first because it was beneficial to her. That does not mean she didn't like Jayce or was cold hearted or anything (she grew fond of him as time went on and always supported him when he needed).

Y'all be 'I support women wrongs' and then ya try to erase their flaws because otherwise 'it would be problematic'.. Good that makes it human.

[metanarrates]

the scenarios require an endless raising of stakes, playing games with people's lives until they paradoxically cease to have impact. a dokkaebi's life depends on playing this system well. in certain ways, constellation lives depend on it too. there is a necessity to create an endless churning of content no matter who gets crushed under the wheel.

but in kim dokja's wake, something changes. we have constellations who will continue watching an unpopular story, despite it losing a lot of what made it exciting. and we have a dokkaebi who will continue facilitating that unpopular story, despite the fact that its influence is waning. they have come to care about it regardless.

a lot of orv's situations and characters reflect kim dokja in some way, which makes sense considering that orv is a million words long character study in the form of a fantasy novel. but something I find interesting is that when kim dokja changes people, it doesn't make people any less a reflection of him, despite how much he often hates himself. instead, so many the positive changes he enacts are ones that make other people more like him. the ones who come to love the story will act more like the reader who loves the story above all!

[katsu-punk]

It’s strange because I know in most aspects I am Sirius Black coded, but like… if I were to kin anyone I think it would be Regulus. Make it make sense lol

[resizura]

you can make an evil complex character without making him sympathetic and i dont think making a villain sympathetic inherently means theyre complex

[spideyhexx]

this is conon but coryo has panic attacks and i just feel like we need to focus on that more

like he’s so fragile by keeping up this image that it just all cracks??? that’s such a good character detail and shines a light on his humanity

that was something that struck me so much when I first saw the film and then when I started reading the book (I still haven’t finished it, things have been getting in the way😭)

But it’s even more palpable in the book??? Especially the Capitol zoo scene and also the part where Highbottom talks to him in the beginning like the book represents that so well since we get his inner thoughts.

I think that is one of the crucial parts of his character, that really grounds him and makes him realistic and like you said it shows his humanity!

[taehyungfirst]

I'm late but I want to join the speculation.

RM - started out very straight and then opened his pov and now doesn't use a label (though still basically straight because he's too emotional for queer romance)

Jin - straight

Yoongi - less bi/pan than people want him to be but not strictly straight

Hobi - straight

Jimin - I lean towards straight. Not sure because I think a lot of what gets pointed to as indicating his sexuality is more about gender expression. He has been vocal for years about breaking down stereotypes of what is considered "manly".

Tae - queer - though I don't think he does labels. I think it's about being, in his own words "free".

JK - queer - but I also think he's not one to vibe with labels. I also think his intentional engagement around gender expression doesn't get enough credit.

(Random sidenote: I think a lot of the "proof" about JK/JM's relationship comes from early days when they were two young boys figuring out how to navigate the gender stereotypes ("manly muscles" and "cute boy next door") that they had and that were being put on them as opposed to how they started to understand their own desires around what they wanted to express and how. I also think that's where JK's resistance on being "cute" comes from.)

Namjoon being still “basically straight” after he got traumatized by his ig bf situationship is very funny to say 😭

I agree about Jimin! He fought really hard to break the early days image people (the company) wanted to push on him.

I also believe labels are important for some people and while I agree on Taehyung, I think Jk would probably use a label. And you’re right, he’s also very involved with genderless brands.

[kiss2012]

rewatched the first three episodes of s3 and im never going to recover

[akkivee]

No wait, please come back and talk about Ichiro and Nemu's perceived lack of sense of self that comes from confidence issues. Or not; I'm not the boss of you.

i am quite literally always down to talking about ichiro and nemu lol

i’ve been looking at it like neither ichiro nor nemu have had the opportunity to explore who they are and grow up as themselves because they really aren’t at a place to do so

for ichiro, he’s crafted himself to being the perfect big bro he thinks his brothers need. like, he’s so focused on not being anything his brother’s don’t need it took nemu unlocking buried childhood memory #896 for him to recall a food he enjoyed enough to call a fav 😭😭😭 in the tdd manga, you see a lot of ichiro’s less than savoury sides of his personality, his hotheadedness, his very brash way of speaking, and a touch of ruthlessness. it’s all facets of himself that helped drive jiro and saburo away so he buried them once he got the chance to be the ‘adult’ figure in his brother’s lives out of a fear he’d drive them away again

nemu, on the other hand, is doing great lol unfortunately, she just got brainwashed just as she was coming into herself. however, because of she views herself as weak, she’s blind to the fact she’s always stood her ground in the face of wrongdoing. her standing up to otome??? her standing up to samatoki’s brand of violence??? her not even flinching when terrorists threatened to kill her??? that strength’s always been in her character but since she had to rely on her brother (and that reliance led to fuel samatoki’s violent lifestyle), she doesn’t see that about herself and only views herself as a damsel

[tastymelonfarm]

if I think about katniss and peeta too long my vision starts to look like when you take damage in a cod game

[angstandhappiness]

Intriguing

1/2

Jax knows what's going on and he's being the most douchey peacekeeper about it.

Anytime the tension rises, Jax comes in with a quip or remark to chill everyone out.

When Gangle asks about Kaufmo:

When Zooble asks where Pomni is:

And when Pomni first brings up the exit he acts like a dick to distract everyone

When the group decide they want to check on Kaufmo and find Zooble he assigns the best people based on how stable they are.

It might be possible that he didn't know Kaufmo had abstracted at this point, but the fact he paired up Kinger and Gangle on the less stressful objective shows he knows it's a possibility since no one has seen Kaufmo and that those two wouldn't be able to handle it if they saw him the way he turned out and could abstract themselves.

[cannibalisticsamdean]

me when i write something and like it but then reread it and sort of hate it and then i have to put it down for a while and then and then